Support as nominator –
Manelolo (
talk) 10:15, 1 March 2018 (UTC)reply
2nd iconic candidate pic of Finland in WW2 and by far the best one of any "border crossing" pics from the war. I've tried to make the caption neutral as possible, but this event had profound effects and moral scrutiny attached to it. I believe some authors have called the point of crossing the old, original border turning the war from "national defence and righting the wrongs" to "foreign conquest." Likewise, the Allies pressured Finland to stop their advance after the war became morally more ambiguous. The title of the pic is an amended translation from the original caption "Miehet jättävät rajan taakseen" = "Men leaving the border behind." I've cropped a watermark and scan remnants, but otherwise left it alone.
Manelolo (
talk) 10:27, 1 March 2018 (UTC)reply
I withdraw my nomination Ack! After further research and verification, this is a pic from the start of the invasion and not the "old border" in fact; the caption left by a former editor on the pic had me fooled. Apologies, will amend text on the file page accordingly and repropose later.
Manelolo (
talk) 12:06, 1 March 2018 (UTC)reply
I miss some vibrance here, colors are washed. Dont know if will OKed - background. --
PetarM (
talk) 10:52, 25 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose - Understood that this is a FP on the commons, but the more I look at it and compare it with
other FP butterflies, the more it looks like the head and thorax are out of focus. -
chsh (
talk) 14:56, 25 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment - bottom right corner needs to be touched up. Also obvious bright spots on his coat and pants can be removed.
Bammesk (
talk) 03:58, 23 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Agree with Bammesk. If my laptop weren't in the shop, I'd look into doing it myself.
Crisco 1492 mobile (
talk) 09:21, 23 February 2018 (UTC)reply
I see the crack in the lower right corner, which could be digitally repaired although I think that its small size and its placement makes it be unnecessary to repair unless someone is motivated to do so. I think that the white specks on Ansel's coat are "pills" which should be left alone for historical authenticity, since they are not dust on the photograph. I am less certain about the specks on his pants, but upon close inspection I agree that they are probably imperfections that could be repaied. --Pine✉ 20:28, 26 February 2018 (UTC)reply
What does that mean? --
Janke |
Talk 13:14, 26 February 2018 (UTC)reply
@
Janke: In EXIF you can see Color space:Uncalibrated. Resulting "its can be seen with fake colors" on some browsers etc. Normaly should be in RGB space - even BW. --
PetarM (
talk) 14:05, 1 March 2018 (UTC)reply
If that's your only reason for opposing, I uploaded a new version in RGB, slightly adjusted curve (contrast) and even fixed the crack in the lower right corner... Feel free to revert if you don't like it. --
Janke |
Talk 19:43, 1 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Support now --
PetarM (
talk) 10:27, 2 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Support as nominator –
Manelolo (
talk) 21:05, 26 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment – Unfortunately, a very unbalanced composition. I would support only if the image would be cropped as seen in the previous low-res uploads (check the image page). Do that crop in hi-res, and I'll support because of the historical significance and the very high EV. --
Janke |
Talk 07:17, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Did it myself, slightly less drastic crop than previous low-res versions. Support now. --
Janke |
Talk 07:48, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Thanks
Janke! I was pondering of doing it myself too (since it's a lot better composed this way), but with historical photos I'm always a bit wary.
Manelolo (
talk) 08:42, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment – An interesting footnote to the history of WWII, which in Finland was complicated. Not too bad for a 73-year-old B&W, but I'm not sure there's enough readily accessible visual info for TFP. The crop helps some – could be more on left & bottom, maybe even a bit on top.
Sca (
talk) 15:32, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
@
Sca: Quite right. I cropped it a bit more from the left and bottom, but let the top stay as it is. Pinging
Janke as well if he is ok/has further comments.
Manelolo (
talk) 16:01, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Quite OK - we seek consensus, right? --
Janke |
Talk 16:48, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Support – Lookin' good.
Sca (
talk) 17:14, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Support - Looks fine to me... a few white spots that seem to be damage, but nothing too distracting. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 04:12, 28 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 18 Mar 2018 at 13:41:43 (UTC)
Reason
Good quality image, nice expression of the subject, best photograph of the subject that the encyclopedia has to offer, took by a professional photographer
Oppose – Face of subject shadowed, distracting background. Target article is a stumpb, and was created only today.
Sca (
talk) 14:59, 8 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Article was created in 2003 ?!! -
Groupir ! (
talk) 16:02, 8 March 2018 (UTC)reply
He means that the photo was added to the article today. Usually, an added photo has to be stable in an article for some time before FCP. --
Janke |
Talk 20:59, 8 March 2018 (UTC)reply
This photo is relatively new on Commons, and the cropped version is more used on Wikipedia. -
Groupir ! (
talk) 22:18, 8 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Actually, I was mistaken. My apologies.
Sca (
talk) 00:42, 9 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Target article is a stump (stub)? At almost 2000 words? Surely you jest. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 01:55, 10 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment -- What's with the light streaks from top down - are they in the original, or an effect of the lighting? Is that the shadow of the frame on the right and bottom left? If so, it needs to be removed, or the photo re-shot. If it is intrinsic to the painting, nothing can be done, obviously. A surly looking madonna, for sure - Mona's smile is better... ;-) --
Janke |
Talk 17:02, 12 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Thanks
Janke. Unfortunately it is a painting on a table not on canvas, and the table is not perfectly smooth, it is a bit swollen ... calculating that this painting is from 1509 (!). Those on the left are shadows, I did not want to cut them so as not to cut the painting.Probably inspired by the mona but Raffaello probably saw it only once. Thanks --LivioAndronico(
talk) 23:04, 12 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Hi
Paul_012, I do not know what i can answer you, this is done with a professional camera unlike the others. These are the colors. Thanks.--LivioAndronico(
talk) 18:03, 14 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 24 Mar 2018 at 19:21:41 (UTC)
Reason
Good quality photo of one of Bangkok's most iconic buildings. I like how the lit prang contrast against the night sky. The near-perfect symmetry isn't easily obtained either. (I note that there's a ghost boat to the left, but I don't find it particularly distracting.)
Support as nominator –
Paul_012 (
talk) 19:21, 14 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Support Looks great.
DonFB (
talk) 19:49, 14 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose Nice photo, but a daytime image is better for an encyclopaedia.
Charlesjsharp (
talk) 09:00, 20 March 2018 (UTC)reply
I agree. And I've looked, but it appears lighting conditions don't favour great daytime shots of the temple. The temple is on the west bank of the river, so afternoon shots are inevitably back-lit. Most early morning shots I've seen have the smaller northwest prang in the shadow of the central one, and by the time the sun rises high enough for the shadow to subside the light becomes pretty much too harsh. There are probably a few months where the sun rises at just the right azimuth to create the perfect lighting, but I wouldn't hold my breath. We already have quite a few night FPs of architecture, and Wat Arun is one of those structures that are most picturesque under night lighting. --
Paul_012 (
talk) 16:22, 20 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose - The symmetry is interesting, but the people walking around is quite distracting.
chsh (
talk) 14:53, 15 March 2018 (UTC)reply
To me the people are part of the story. It's a tourist attraction. People go there. Lots. In this image they are present but not in a way that (I think) distracts the viewer.
Daniel Case (
talk) 02:29, 16 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Support - Lovely picture with a great view of symmetry that has been well-taken.
Goveganplease (
talk) 16:14, 15 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Support as nominator –
Nergaal (
talk) 19:29, 16 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Uh, could you redo this nomination so we can actually see the file you want to nominate?Daniel Case (
talk) 22:08, 16 March 2018 (UTC)reply
OK, thanks. 23:38, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
Support – Thanks, Nergaal. I think it has plenty of encyclopedic value, too :-) Please let me know if any changes should be made. Thanks, cmɢʟee⎆
τaʟκ 00:55, 17 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment - This is tagged as having embedded raster images. Could we get a true SVG? —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 01:38, 17 March 2018 (UTC)reply
I have no idea how "embedding" and "true" work.
Nergaal (
talk) 10:24, 17 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Embedding uses an image tag with a "data:image/jpeg" etc MIME type and Base64 encoding to include a bitmap within the SVG. If that's truly a problem, I'll update the globe with a polar map. The issue is that the file size will increase, and unless I find an orthographic projection, the globe won't be as accurate as the current one. Cheers, cmɢʟee⎆
τaʟκ 23:29, 19 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment - Are all these orbits (at least nearly) equatorial? If they are, then I would support but if not (which I suspect), then the image is misleading, and in that case oppose, unless a proper explanation is made in the caption. The little earth as a raster image doesn't bother me. The animation and highlighting is nice, but it works only on the original file. --
Janke |
Talk 16:58, 17 March 2018 (UTC)reply
(Edit) I noticed the orbit explanation on the file page, but it needs to be in the caption, at least in some form... --
Janke |
Talk 17:06, 17 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Not sure exactly what to put in to do justice to the image contents.
Nergaal (
talk) 19:47, 18 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the note,
Janke. How about To let their sizes be compared and attributes read off the scales, orbits are flattened to appear perpendicular to the image; most of the orbits are actually at significant inclination. ? Cheers, cmɢʟee⎆
τaʟκ 00:38, 20 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Yes, but nevertheless, keep the caption as short as possible, and include it on this page, too. Maybe the Earth shouldn't rotate, I feel that it further increases the chance of "equatorial misconception"... ;-) --
Janke |
Talk 09:54, 20 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Done (see above). I feel the Earth rotation helps understand GEO, and the second sentence in the caption sufficiently makes it clear that most orbits are inclined. Any thoughts, anyone? cmɢʟee⎆
τaʟκ 23:43, 20 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Support now. --
Janke |
Talk 08:03, 21 March 2018 (UTC)reply
SupportConditional support, provided explanation is added per Janke's concerns. Wow. It's a shame that there's no support for inline SVG, and that the thumbnail appears so ugly, but I don't think there's anything in the FP criteria that discourages such animations. --
Paul_012 (
talk) 22:39, 18 March 2018 (UTC), 13:54, 26 March 2018 (UTC)reply
I've added a "link" parameter to the thumbnail so that it directly loads the SVG when clicked. The file description page is still accessible via the ⧉-like icon. Cheers, cmɢʟee⎆
τaʟκ 23:31, 19 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Dude, you can probably get most of your vectorized diagram FPs.
Nergaal (
talk) 00:37, 20 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Thanks, Nergaal, kind of you to say that. I feel illustrating is my way of giving back to the community to educate the next generation, and don't really pursue glory. Of course, I'm touched whenever someone like yourself thinks it worthy of recognition! Cheers, cmɢʟee⎆
τaʟκ 00:44, 20 March 2018 (UTC)reply
The point (I see) for FPs is that they get featured on the mainpage. If nothing else, some more people will notice your work. Keep up the great work.
Nergaal (
talk) 02:16, 20 March 2018 (UTC)reply
The caption still needs an explanation about the orbits not being equatorial (see above). OK, I see it's Done, so no objections anymore... ;-) --
Janke |
Talk 09:51, 20 March 2018 (UTC)reply