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Reason
High quality, high EV, unreported denomination. The Liberian dollar has been the official currency of Liberia from 1847 to 1907 and from 1943 to the present.
Love the image, but I do agree that we need a secondary source reporting this discovery. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 23:46, 28 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Chris- Can it be used as an illustration of the Liberian dollar and not as a discovery note (for the time being)?--
Godot13 (
talk) 23:58, 28 April 2016 (UTC)reply
I don't see why not, but this gets its EV from being a discovery note. I don't doubt that's accurate, but to comply with
WP:RS I agree that we need a source recognizing its existence. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 00:01, 29 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Would a Smithsonian-run blog entry be a RS? -
Godot13 (
talk) 00:05, 29 April 2016 (UTC)reply
It'd be a primary source. I'd probably accept that for FPC, though if you were to go for FA or FL there'd have to be a secondary source. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 01:10, 29 April 2016 (UTC)reply
It also gets its EV from being a high grade example and having a vintage depiction of the coat of arms on the relevant article...--
Godot13 (
talk) 00:10, 29 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Support - Great scan and high ev.
Spongie555 (
talk) 13:15, 28 April 2016 (UTC)reply
I think the best course of action here is for me to request a suspension pending my ability to secure either a primary or secondary source to support the discovery note aspect of this FPC.--
Godot13 (
talk) 02:50, 29 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Conditional Support pending verification as noted above.
Bammesk (
talk) 04:01, 29 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Why use jpg rather than lossless formats like PNG for your scans, by the way? Cf.
commons:Help:Scanning. ImageMagick says "Quality: 96" (from "Photoshop Quality : 11" per exiftool), 99 would in theory be better if you can't go lossless.
Nemo 16:32, 30 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Because 1) PNG renders terribly in-wiki, and these images are meant to be used in articles, and 2) there is little, if any, appreciable difference between PS quality 11 and PS quality 12 if you are only saving one time. Godot probably doesn't have the same issue, but when I'm uploading on my very slow Indonesian connection, the extra 10–20 mb PS quality 12 would add is just too much to be offset by the minimal difference. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 02:18, 1 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Withdraw - It will take some time to create the appropriate source for the discovery of this note. I will re-nominate when the time comes. --
Godot13 (
talk) 05:04, 5 May 2016 (UTC)reply
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Reason
A nice caricature, shows a bit about how the opera was perceived (albeit through a lens of extreme satire), and shows the notability of the performer - one who does not appear to have many other images of him available, so the caricature is a bit more vluable than it otherwise might be.
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Reason
Somewhat redone since
last time to maximise contrast without misleading. All parts of his face are clear, and if I squint, the face is still distinct from the background. All photographs of Carver have some issues in black and white - he was a dark-skinned man who wore dark suits with light shirts - but that shouldn't mean no image of him is featureable
Oppose - still too dark, could easily be fixed with photoshop "levels", then I'd support. --
Janke |
Talk 06:24, 26 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Racelifting is not happening. If we make him look light-skinned, we are not only denying reality, we are being racist, saying that he' is too dark. Any group picture including him clearly shows he is very, very dark skinned. I realise that's not your intent, but we can't say that someone's too dark-skinned to have a representative FP, or that we should lighten their skin in order to make it look better, without extreme
systematic bias. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 11:05, 26 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Weak oppose – Per
Janke. Nothing to do with race, racism or skin color – it's about lighting. (Don't see significant difference between this version and the one nominated Feb. 8.) It's a shame – it would be good to have a pic of him in his prime rather than his dotage (hence, my "weak" vote).
Sca (
talk) 14:35, 26 April 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Sca: The one in his dotage has exactly the same issues and was delisted because the older ones were obviously better. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 19:48, 26 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Not sure I agree that the face is not clear here. It does seem very dark, like a poorly lit room. I am not sure what I could suggest to improve it, and I would not obligate anyone with a burden to fix this, but this is a difficult picture to see.
Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:33, 26 April 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Janke,
Sca, and
Bluerasberry: Here is a photo of Carver with others from the Tuskegee Institute. He really looked like that.Adam Cuerden(
talk) 21:52, 26 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment - is there a way to increase the contrast with the background by altering the background in some way without changing the levels of the subject?--
Godot13 (
talk) 05:57, 27 April 2016 (UTC)reply
I fixed it so that it doesn't look so horridly underexposed, the skin is still very dark - the white shirt is a good reference... OK? If you agree, you can replace the original, or rename this test edit... (IMO, you could go even a bit further...) --
Janke |
Talk 07:53, 27 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Is this a suggested alt. nomination? I do think it's more accessible to the reader. Although the shirt is a bit blown, that's true of the orig., too.
Sca (
talk) 14:46, 27 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Well, yes, in a way - if people agree, the original could perchance be overwritten with this? At least I support this alt, if nobody wants to lighten it even further... --
Janke |
Talk 15:58, 27 April 2016 (UTC)reply
The alt makes me uncomfortable. It's almost cetrtainly too light in the skin, even if it looks better.
Systemic bias is a major problem - we don't have a lot of black-and-white photographs of very dark skinned people, and correcting to what we think they should look like is dangerous. I'm going by other photos and group shots; I think that's a better guide than "I think it looks better." Also, do not overwrte this is a featured picture on Commons. Oppose alt on encyclopædic grounds. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 16:38, 27 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Weak Oppose: if the nominator is uncomfortable changing the original picture to make it lighter, then I oppose because the original is simply too dark. When I had my tablet screen at an almost flat angle so I could draw on it, I simply could not see it. I'm sure people in poor lighting conditions, with dim screens, or in the sun will see even less.
Pinguinn(🐧) 16:44, 27 April 2016 (UTC)reply
“
Is my monitor adjusted correctly?
In a discussion about the brightness of an image, it is necessary to know if the computer display is
properly adjusted. Displays differ greatly in their ability to show shadow detail. There are four dark grey circles in the adjacent image. If you can discern three (or even four) of the circles, your monitor can display shadow detail correctly. If you see fewer than three circles, you may need to adjust the monitor and/or computer display settings. Some displays cannot be adjusted for ideal shadow detail. Please take this into account when voting.
”
That's part of the featured picture criteria. @
Pinguinn,
Geni, and
Janke: Your monitors are nto in line with the voting criteria, methinks. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 22:00, 27 April 2016 (UTC)reply
I can see all of them quite easily with the Surface 3, the same computer that I had mentioned earlier. Even at the angle I was using it at and couldn't see the image, I could see all 4 circles. Additionally, I'll point out, as I said before, some people may truly not have their monitors calibrated, or have poor ones, or be on a phone in the sun, etc. and see it even less well as I did. We deprive these people of knowledge by excluding them.
Pinguinn(🐧) 22:06, 27 April 2016 (UTC)reply
We all should bear in mind that this photo was taken more than a century ago. But
Adam, I don't see how lightening the photo to make the subject's visage discernible distorts either his race or the historical record. He remains clearly a black or Afro-American person.
Sca (
talk) 23:54, 27 April 2016 (UTC)reply
@ Adam: I suggest you check who originally created that shadow detail test... ;-) --
Janke |
Talk 07:58, 28 April 2016 (UTC)reply
The "original" (a JPG) claims to be a "Picasa 300dpi scan vintage 2007", is that a sound base for any kind of restoration? For laptop users, check the angle of your display, I saw nothing on the display test image, with another angle all four circles were perfectly clear (manually calibrated VAIO 2011). The lower image is too bright for me. –Be..anyone💩 08:11, 28 April 2016 (UTC)reply
OK, then: If you see all four circles clearly, your display is definitely too bright, and so will the photo be. The ideal is to "discern" three circles (but they are all almost black, anyhow!), and the fourth just barely, if at all. If the three rightmost circles are not "almost black", your display is too bright. You can also check your mid-tone calibration here:
[1] - if that is off, all bets are lost... ;-) --
Janke |
Talk 11:04, 28 April 2016 (UTC)reply
I was holding off on voting on this one because I appreciate
Adam Cuerden's restorations, but I came across this picture (to the right), which shows that it is really more a matter of poor lighting than skin colour. I believe his features are seen much more clearly in this photo (taken in daylight) than the nominated one. I will regretfully oppose on the grounds of poor lighting.
Mattximus (
talk) 14:45, 1 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Yeah, his expression is better in that one, too. (And get a load of that flamboyant tie!) Alas, it's not amenable to pulling a mug from it.
Sca (
talk) 14:54, 2 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Welcome to FPC! This image has a few issues, some of which could be corrected. I have made notations in the commons file indicating places which would need some cleanup: there is a hair/fiber in the sky, several large dust spots in the water, and a few also in the sky. The two main issues for me is that at full size the landscape details are too soft and the single tree in the foreground is too much of a distraction from the landscape itself. That said, I must regretfully oppose.--
Godot13 (
talk) 20:50, 6 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Blues also look oversaturated, to me at least. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 07:08, 8 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Agree with oppose above. --
Janke |
Talk 07:03, 8 May 2016 (UTC)reply
This one [
[2]] is a lot more natural. --
Janke |
Talk 10:55, 8 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment – Crater Lake must be one of the most-photographed nature scenes in the world. Consequently, the bar is set pretty high for Criterion No. 5.
Sca (
talk) 15:22, 8 May 2016 (UTC)reply
I would like to withdraw my nomination, as this seems to be a
WP:SNOW case. I appreciate the feedback. This was my first experience at FPC, and I have learned more about the process and the criteria. Thank you.--
3family6 (
Talk to me |
See what I have done) 15:17, 9 May 2016 (UTC)reply
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Reason
High quality, high EV (two-image set for perspective).
Original
Arena Glacier, first mapped in 1948 and 1955, flows into
Hope Bay on the
Trinity Peninsula of
Antarctica. The first image, shot from a ship at a distance, shows the glacier flowing into Hope Bay. The second image, shot from a moving zodiac approaching the glacial outlet, provides size perspective.
Support – both images landscape image(undecided about the close-up).
Bammesk (
talk) 02:43, 4 May 2016 (UTC)reply
The connection between the two images is not obvious, even when the landscape is displayed at say 1200px wide (a typical laptop size). Perhaps the article is the best place to show size perspective. BTW the landscape image is awesome.
Bammesk (
talk) 03:42, 6 May 2016 (UTC)reply
The close-up/detail image is linked in commons to the landscape. A box is drawn around the area of the closeup with a link. Thank you for the kind words about the landscape image...--
Godot13 (
talk) 04:39, 6 May 2016 (UTC)reply
After thinking about this for a long time... I changed my vote to: support both. The images are from a remote location whose landscape is changing. The close-up adds sufficient EV to the nomination.
Bammesk (
talk) 23:52, 12 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support - Prefer the landscape image, though I don't mind the close-up. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 08:57, 4 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support – Landscape. (Some of us certainly do get around!)
Sca (
talk) 13:11, 4 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support Good photos with strong EV. The zodiac photo is particularly good, and useful.
Nick-D (
talk) 09:00, 6 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment - just transcluded this nomination (the process was never completed).
Renata (
talk) 23:59, 9 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose – This image is not sharp when viewed at full size (when one image pixel is mapped to one screen pixel). Most likely because of the small camera/lens/sensor. So I must oppose.
Bammesk (
talk) 01:58, 10 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment - I got it. Well I took pictures not very high camera. Specifically from the phone.--...Lhealt(talk) 15:40, 10 May 2016 (UTC)Lhealtreply
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Reason
High quality magazine advertisement, for the last film produced by Java Industrial Film (production was apparently not finished when the Japanese occupied the Dutch East Indies in March 1942, though we should be careful taking
Tan Tjoei Hock at his word)
Support – quality meets FP requirements, EV established through standalone article.
SSTflyer 11:48, 5 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support – Good quality of an obscure film, but the article is well written. So quality and EV are both there.
Mattximus (
talk) 22:31, 5 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Since we can't expect a historical document to be improved in quality, Support. If Indonesia used a rather cheap half-tone for its movie posters, we get what we get, aye? =) Adam Cuerden(
talk) 02:30, 8 May 2016 (UTC)reply
This and the previous Poesaka Terpendam advertisement were both much better quality than the mid-1950s prints. In 1950 or so Bintang Surabaja used decent halftoning, much different than what ended up being used later. Check out the full resolution at Selamat Berdjuang, Masku!. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 02:53, 8 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Don't know how. Plus, I only found two pictures. Is that suffice enough to be conisdered a set?
Étienne Dolet (
talk) 08:08, 5 May 2016 (UTC)reply
I rather prefer the shot below, looking toward the nave. This one seems sort of visually confusing, tho that may be just me.
Sca (
talk) 14:50, 5 May 2016 (UTC)reply
The composition of this photo is unfortunately dominated by the chairs to my eye.
Nick-D (
talk) 08:58, 6 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support Gives a nice idea of the use of space and the complicated structure. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 02:32, 8 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support - per Adam, but should be a set with the other nomination.
Spongie555 (
talk) 19:58, 11 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Neutral - If the image below gets FP status, I see little additional value of this one since this structure is seen in the other image too.
Mikael Häggström (
talk) 12:39, 14 May 2016 (UTC)reply
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Reason
One of the most characterful self-portraits I've seen. Interesting background, that you can spend hours looking over (which is good, as this took weeks)
Support – Zounds, showing leg and smoking a ciggie, too! Interesting pix in her article.
Adam, I'm curious: In relation to the George Washington Carver nom. (4/26), how would you evaluate her
photo of Booker T. Washington?
Sca (
talk) 15:16, 8 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Well, it's featured here and on Commons. Guessing at your underlying question, I'd ask you to remember that people vary in skin tone. Booker T. Washington is a much lighter-skinned African-American than Carver is, which is pretty readily demonstratable. Booker shouldn't be darkened to look like Carver any more than Carver should be lightened. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 16:52, 8 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment – Not sure she makes the grade in terms of notability.
Sca (
talk) 14:44, 9 May 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Sca: I think her article makes an excellent case for her notability. She was very politically active, and created plenty of scandals in her day. We have FPs on far less notable people. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 16:31, 9 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Well, notability can be debated. My thought was, she was notable then, and is notable now, mainly for being the daughter of Teddy Roosevelt. Other than that, she was known for being a celebrity and sometime political gadfly. (The only president's daughter I can think of offhand who achieved notability on her own is
Caroline Kennedy, now ambassador to Japan.)
I like the soufflé quote at the end of her article, though.
Sca (
talk) 18:59, 9 May 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Sca: I'd argue that, given she has her own article, with sufficient sources that show she's been the subject of lengthy coverage in her own right, that's enough for FPC, but we can go well beyond that for her. There's four different book-length biographies cited, after all: J. Brough (1975), H. Teichmann (1979), Carol Felsenthal (1988), and S. A. Cordery (2007) - and you could argue Michael Teague's 1981 book counts as well. And they're all by major publishers. There's also several Time and Salon.com articles. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 22:05, 9 May 2016 (UTC)reply
There is no separate bar of notability for FPC. If she's notable enough for Wikipedia, she's notable enough for FPC. Otherwise we'd have people going "Oppose: I've never heard of
Mochtar Lubis. He can't be notable enough for FPC". The only way we can stay objective is not have separate bars. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 00:45, 10 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Famous for being famous – or infamous. Yawn.
Sca (
talk) 01:52, 10 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Yes, the implication is that Paris Hilton could have an FP. And? Do you have an argument for having a notability threshhold that doesn't boil down to ... "Yawn"? —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 08:36, 10 May 2016 (UTC)reply
I outlined my view of the subject above. Yawn means I don't find her story of compelling interest. Your view is that the achievements of a subject are irrelevant to an FP nom. That may be so according to the multifaceted rule book (devised by others), but I don't think that notion serves encyclopedia readers very well.
There's nothing wrong with the picture. Please note that my post was a comment, not an oppose.
Are you arguing for an FP of Paris H.? Saints preserve us!
Sca (
talk) 14:30, 10 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Re: Paris H. Not with anything in the present article (the lede image is nice at thumbnail size, but falls flat at full resolution, which is under the minimum anyways) but if we were to get something that met the technical criteria, I wouldn't be opposed to it. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 15:28, 10 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support these 19 years, frozen in time, assuming the eye and hair color are true.
Brandmeistertalk 14:37, 10 May 2016 (UTC)reply
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Reason
Other than a bit of graininess - acceptable in a photographic print of its era - and the fade that was so popular in images of the era, this is a pretty solid image, and a vast improvement over the previous only image of him we had (see file history).
Oppose – good EV... but there is CA and/or jpeg artifact. Also the composition is not quite right, the base is missing (similar to capturing a tree without capturing the ground at the base of it).
Bammesk (
talk) 03:32, 20 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose per
Bammesk - cut off but mainly the picture quality sorry - just really not clear/sharp enough I'm afraid.
gazhiley 10:26, 20 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Withdraw While this is the best the camera can do, not quite up there, it seems. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 10:34, 20 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment – An interesting
ship, though, in terms of naval history and marine architecture.
Sca (
talk) 15:28, 20 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose Per other –
Jobas (
talk) 15:56, 20 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Weak support – The only thing that's a little off-putting is the diffuse lighting due to overcast. That it's used by OCED adds EV. (Some nice interior shots
here.)
Sca (
talk) 15:40, 12 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment I think the verticals are slightly tilted? Adam Cuerden(
talk) 06:26, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Weak Support per
Sca - texture caused by cold lighting are a little flat, and building edge is harsh against the near-white sky. Otherwise seems fine to me - can't see much in the way of issues with the verticals.
gazhiley 12:50, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose - No source information. Looks to have been edited digitally for contrast etc. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 00:44, 15 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose per Crisco. The Yorck scans often have issues, so correcting them might be valid - but this version has different dimensions, so... Adam Cuerden(
talk) 06:27, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
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Reason
High Ev showing Sir Nils Olav on the day of his knightood reviewing the royal guard wearing his knighthood a rare ocassion, pretty good quality image also
Support, he even looks upwards to inspect.
Brandmeistertalk 13:29, 14 May 2016 (UTC)reply
* Support – Dad always said "the Norwegians are the finest people in the world," so I vote ja. (As in Ja, vi elsker dette landet.) –
Sca (
talk) 22:08, 14 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support Great photo with strong EV for this rather odd topic
Nick-D (
talk) 02:01, 15 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support. This would be a great Today's Featured Picture for 1 April next year.
Ham II (
talk) 16:54, 15 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support – A wonderful "double take" image ... looking forward to seeing this on The Signpost.
Vesuvius Dogg (
talk) 04:05, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Promoted File:Nils Olav inspects the Kings Guard of Norway after being bestowed with a knighthood at Edinburgh Zoo in Scotland.jpg --
ArmbrustTheHomunculus 22:24, 22 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose Strong composition and I don't mind b/w, but the pointe is to be sharply focused, which this isn't.
Vesuvius Dogg (
talk) 16:06, 19 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment Barring evidence to the contrary, I'd rather go itrh the original version, not the colour-adjusted version loaded over it. The original seems quite in keeping with painters of the period. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 06:29, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
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Reason
Found this in a drive by reading of the current
International Space Station article; having never heard of an Aurora Australis before I thought I would play the clip. Its an interesting vid, so I thought it may have a shot at an FP star.
Oppose – there is a ghost image with ~30 pixel offset, visible on the right side of the space station, and easy to see all over at 200%. Perhaps caused by reflections from a viewing window. The ghost can probably be erased in software. Also the highlights are blown (which I am Ok with in this case). Very good EV, great image.
Bammesk (
talk) 15:32, 15 May 2016 (UTC)reply
I've now added ALT1, where the ghost artifacts have been digitally removed around the structures.
Mikael Häggström (
talk) 21:19, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support ALT1 – Nicely done (i.e. excellent work). There is one inadvertent deletion which needs fixing: around x,y=3285,2740 (relative to upper left corner) where
Kepler attaches to the space station. Other minor improvements say at x,y=2490,2630 and x,y=2343,693 are possible, but they are too minor.
Bammesk (
talk) 01:45, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Thanks for noticing this, so that I could now have it fixed before any people therein were harmed
Mikael Häggström (
talk) 13:21, 19 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support - stunning image, and willing to overlook small flaws in image quality due to the relatively rarity/challenges of space photos and the high EV.
2607:F6D0:CED:5BA:F510:A79A:A5B5:B9A8 (
talk) 23:23, 16 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Struck !vote, as IPs can only comment on nominations.
ArmbrustTheHomunculus 09:44, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Armbrust: Really? I highly disagree with this policy (shouldn't we
AGF and take me on my worth that I'm not sockpuppetting - which I'm not - and that I understand FP criteria?)
171.66.209.8 (
talk) 20:46, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Doesn't matter, whether you agree with it or not, the lead of
WP:FPC cleary says: "anonymous votes are generally disregarded".
ArmbrustTheHomunculus 21:06, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Oh, I know, I see that now. I'm commenting on the policy and not on your enforcement of said policy. I don't see why my voice should matter less in building a consensus if there's no evidence of sockpuppetting or lack of understanding of FPC rules.
171.66.209.4 (
talk) 23:18, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
But wouldn't your willingness to vote even though the requirements are clearly spelled out indicate an unfamiliarity with the FPC rules, in and of itself?
Crisco 1492 mobile (
talk) 06:26, 18 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support – But only if it's moved to the lead image. I'm not sure why there is a zoomed in image as the lead.
Mattximus (
talk) 23:29, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
It is the lead image (click on the infobox image in the article)... It's a css image crop because the whole image would look too small in the size of an infobox, in my opinion--
Godot13 (
talk) 03:56, 18 May 2016 (UTC).reply
Comment – blown highlights, was exposure bracketing possible? (the camera does 5fps)
Bammesk (
talk) 00:09, 20 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Promoted File:Hope Bay-2016-Trinity Peninsula–Esperanza Station 02.jpg --
ArmbrustTheHomunculus 12:44, 26 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support Nice detail, well-reproduced. Wht kind of parent names their kid "Martyr", though? Adam Cuerden(
talk) 06:33, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
He chose the name himself (after
Peter of Verona, also called Peter Martyr) when he became a monk as a young man; he was born Piero Mariano.
Josh Milburn (
talk) 08:19, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment – In contrast to her saucy friend
Frances, who's about to be promoted, Mattie looks like she should be making cookies for her grandkids.
Sca (
talk) 15:09, 17 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Don't we though? My comment was simply an observation, not a critique of the nom. However, I do think the pic of Johnston is more interesting due to her apparently feisty personality. About this one I'm neutral.
Sca (
talk) 13:25, 19 May 2016 (UTC)reply
While I certainly like the other picture better, I think it better to judge based on the subject, since I don't want to create a situation where certain subjects get left out of getting restorations and other work put into them because they aren't as exciting as other ones. I mean, we have FPs of fruit, after all, and I think she's more interesting than fruit. =) Adam Cuerden(
talk) 15:30, 19 May 2016 (UTC)reply
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Reason
I always find the children's books by major authors interesting. They show a lot about what they thought important, and what messages they'd like to pass on. This is the only colour illustration; the rest is black and white, so it's a natural division. Colours should be pretty accurate; I worked off the original, so it should be within the limit of variation caused by different lighting and such.
Weak Support Quite out of focus, potentially because of the over-exposure of the original which the tweak done will not correct. Otherwise a very likeable picture...
gazhiley 10:40, 20 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose. This really feels like a zoo photograph (and it is). The composition doesn't really work, for me.
Josh Milburn (
talk) 18:21, 22 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment - Source website appears to be a dead link.
Mattximus (
talk) 22:39, 19 May 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Mattximus: Not too much of an issue; So long as we know where it was, the source is pretty much obvious (Museo del Prado). SupportAdam Cuerden(
talk) 12:36, 24 May 2016 (UTC)reply