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Reason
Little smaller than I'd like, but appears to be at around the film grain size, so I don't think there's much lost detail, and Puccini is hard to find good photographs of. First (here) of a set of images released by the
Archivio Storico Ricordi.
Support – taking an exception to the pixel count requirement: historic photo, and DOF is quite shallow so it doesn't look like more pixels would give us more detail.
Bammesk (
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Reason
A really very nice image. Kind of your standard "bad, but not that bad" restoration: A couple corners to recreate, but just of a bokeh-style backdrop, a couple cracks, that sort of thing. Looks more impressive than it is.
Support as nominator – Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 05:57, 21 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Support. --
Gnosis (
talk) 20:10, 21 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Is the photo cut on the left side? The "Mishkin" watermark looks like it was cut off in the original. There's several areas of white on the left edge of the photo.
MER-C 18:19, 22 September 2020 (UTC)reply
It may well have been cut, but probably before Raisa mailed it, at a guess. It's not a cut-off scan. I'll recheck the left edge. Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 18:57, 22 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Should be fixed now. I swear I went over that left edge like four times before nomination. Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 03:34, 23 September 2020 (UTC)reply
If that is the case, then support.
MER-C 16:40, 23 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose because it was grayscale, not monochrome. I don't know if it will be replaced into color-converted image like that, like coloring black and white or grayscale photos.
Evan0512 (
talk) 00:19, 24 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Evan0512, I don't really understand what you're saying. Could you rephrase? --
Paul_012 (
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Reason
One of the better-shot photographs of suffragettes. It's quite a nice image, good resolution, and the suffragette is notable enough. Also, yes, I know I have a lot of nominations. A few of them were delayed by various things, so I've been collecting finished ones.
Comment. I'm split on this one. On the one hand, it has a clear view of the whole mountain, unlike
File:Mtandromeda.jpg which only shows a closeup of the face and
File:Icefields Parkway near Columbia Icefield.jpg where Mount Athabasca is more prominent in the foreground with Mount Andromeda behind it. And it is the lead image of its article. On the other hand the light is dull compared to either of those other two photos and I think the sense of scale given by the people in foreground is a false one (the people are much closer than the mountain causing them to appear much larger in the photo than the features of the mountain behind them). —
David Eppstein (
talk) 17:00, 28 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment – There is loss of sharpness on the left and the right side. I agree with David, the lighting is dull. It reduces the wow factor.
Bammesk (
talk) 03:56, 29 September 2020 (UTC)reply
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Reason
A fine, early-production image by notable set designers, and really colourful and lovely to boot. from the same set as the previously-featured
File:Max Brückner - Otto Henning - Richard Wagner - Final scene of Götterdämmerung.jpg though I did treat which I nominated differently as the image is on a separate paper to the mount, and was slightly tilted relative to the mount in this case. A CSS crop cannot rotate.
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Reason
Self-portrait of
Judith Leyster, a notable woman artist of the Dutch Golden Age, used as the lead image for her article. Typical of her work in composition and execution, showing also one of her unfinished paintings as a scene-within-a-scene. In the National Gallery of Art, with a high-quality scan donated by the National Gallery of Art. (Note that there's also a
Google Art Project scan of the same painting, linked from
The Proposition (painting); I like the slightly rosier shade of the nominated version from the National Gallery a little better than the slightly greener shade of the Google one, but they're very close and I could go with either. We should certainly avoid the
vertically-compressed book scan and the
color-corrected version).
Withdraw. There can only be one and they're similar enough that there's no point swapping. Sorry for not catching this. —
David Eppstein (
talk) 16:23, 8 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support Boring composition, but we're hardly oversaturated with images from the Indian subcontinent, so we can add a difficulty-of-acquiring factor Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 18:53, 1 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support I'm not a fan of the blank background, but this is a good portrait as it clearly shows the subject and has a hint of character.
Nick-D (
talk) 01:59, 3 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support - I cropped the image to fix some basic portrait composition problems: subject off-center, eyes below the top-third of image. If you clear your cache, it should look better now.
Kaldari (
talk) 20:31, 9 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment –
DreamSparrow, the background has an indistinct vertical line on the right side (dark shade). Is that real? If not, it can be removed.
Bammesk (
talk) 14:47, 10 October 2020 (UTC)reply
DreamSparrow, I see the hair, but adjacent to it and to its right, there is a vertical diffused line going all the way to the top. Perhaps that's the paint on the wall?!
Bammesk (
talk) 17:16, 10 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support (
t ·
c) buidhe 03:22, 8 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Promoted File:Wally (soprano), figurino di Adolf Hohenstein per La Wally (1892) - Archivio Storico Ricordi ICON004639 - Restoration.jpg --
ArmbrustTheHomunculus 21:04, 11 October 2020 (UTC)reply
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Reason
Fine illustration of what was probably Puccini's least successful work - and only his second opera - and hence hard to illustrate. Another of the Ricordi images. Didn't think it needed restoration.
Support (
t ·
c) buidhe 03:21, 8 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Promoted File:Vasta spianata presso Courtray, bozzetto di Giuseppe Palanti per Edgar (s.d.) - Archivio Storico Ricordi ICON000128 B.jpg --
ArmbrustTheHomunculus 08:22, 12 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Slight perspective distortion should be fixed.
MER-C 17:55, 2 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Sure, can you annotate please? --
Muhammad(talk) 07:32, 5 October 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Muhammad Mahdi Karim: Right hand side and background minarets aren't vertical, neither is the building on the right hand side (the inner bit is worse).
MER-C 08:20, 6 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Agree with MER-C, but inclined to Support. Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 18:33, 2 October 2020 (UTC)reply
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Reason
Portrait of an eminent political leader and social reformer with good quality as per FP standards, good lighting and composition. Very high EV. He passed away last month. Therefore, there is no chance to get a better picture than this in future.
Support, though it you have this at higher resolution, I think it would benefit. Though given its size (an odd number of pixels, indicating a crop to the relevant area), I suspect all the usable photo is there. Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 14:57, 4 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support as nominator –
MER-C 18:13, 3 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment – Rather indistinct due mainly to lack of contrast with BG. –
Sca (
talk) 13:58, 4 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support because I don't know if the plant is living or looks like living.
Evan0512 (
talk) 18:31, 6 October 2020 (UTC)reply
This does kind of seem like your classic Commons-but-not-necessarily-En-Wiki FP. It's very artistic, but the artistry might reduce encyclopedic value (EV) a bit, and EV is much bigger here.
File:Platanthera chlorantha LC0225.jpg gives a completely different view that says a lot more about the plant. That said, there's some beautiful detail, so Weak SupportAdam Cuerden(
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FPs 20:30, 7 October 2020 (UTC)reply
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Reason
I do like photographs of people at work, and this is a nice photo. Second in her article - a more generic head shot forms the lead - but I'd say the best of the two.
Support as nominator – Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 03:26, 4 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support. Agree, much more interesting than the other photo and enough EV despite not being lead image. —
David Eppstein (
talk) 06:53, 4 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support, but the references in the article about this painting need improvement. A quick search found Hannah Elizabeth Miller, "A Partner in Their Suffering: Gustav Klimt's Empowered Figure in Hope II", MA thesis, BYU,
https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/etd/6429/ and Julia F. Dailey, "Reclaiming Gustav Klimt's Artwork Hope II As Vision: Representations of Grief, Maternity and Spirituality", graduate thesis, U Texas at Tyler,
http://hdl.handle.net/10950/1331 as possibilities, as well as other scholarly works on broader topics that mention the painting, and a piece in ArtNews involving its provenance
[1]. —
David Eppstein (
talk) 07:17, 8 October 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Sca: Well, it is a Metal concert... Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 19:43, 9 October 2020 (UTC)reply
• From Criterion No. 1: "...has no highly distracting or obstructing elements."
• Target article doesn't mention the 2004 Ottawa performance outside the photo caption, so I don't see how this 16-year-old pic "adds significant encyclopedic value to [the] article."
My view is that this is a picture of him performing. Pyrotechnics are a regular part of metal concerts, and so it does a good job of showing a typical dramatic moment of such a concert. Just like you ideally wouldn't illustrate a theatrical show by showing actors having a commonplace conversation from it, you'd choose a dramatic moment where there's a lot of action and reaction, you wouldn't try to show "metal musician performing" with a simply-lit sing-into-microphone moment. There's other photographs that cover him not mid-dramatic-performance. Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 08:12, 10 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support - degree of difficulty is higher than it seems because of the requirement for access.
MER-C 18:31, 9 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Huh? –
Sca (
talk) 22:08, 9 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose, sorry. It's an exciting picture, but I'm not convinced that encyclopedic value is added to the article.
Josh Milburn (
talk) 14:30, 10 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose, performer is not the main subject here. --
Janke |
Talk 09:56, 11 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support Good photo of a heavy metal musician at work. I'm honestly baffled by the oppose votes above - this is what big ticket heavy metal performances look like, so there's heaps of EV.
Nick-D (
talk) 09:38, 14 October 2020 (UTC)reply
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Reason
Jennifer Doudna is the recipient of the 2020 Nobel Prize in Chemistry "for the development of a method for genome editing", along with
Emmanuelle Charpentier. She has received several other awards and is active in the field of
COVID testing as well. I saw her name on the main-page yesterday and thought this is a good candidate. The photo is a bit grainy, but given the encyclopedic value I think we can take an exception. (sidenote: ISO is 320, I think the grain is an intentional artistic choice.)
Support as nominator –
Bammesk (
talk) 01:15, 9 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose - The lighting is overexposed.
GamerPro64 04:08, 9 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support It's only overexposed in the bokeh behind her, which is acceptable, methinks. Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 07:14, 9 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose – Poor composition: lack of centering on subject (grainy at full res), subpar DOF, blown, diffuse BG. –
Sca (
talk) 13:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Would've liked more depth of field, but, given the photographers are giving it a pass on that, I'm guessing that's difficult, so, SupportAdam Cuerden(
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FPs 19:16, 15 October 2020 (UTC)reply
It went through FP on Commons with 8 positive votes. I didn't vote but respect FP voters' opinions.
Charlesjsharp (
talk) 10:29, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Promoted File:Napoli, strada Acquaquilia, bozzetto di Riccardo Salvadori per A Basso Porto (1894) - Archivio Storico Ricordi ICON002556.jpg --
ArmbrustTheHomunculus 08:16, 22 October 2020 (UTC)reply
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Reason
While mainly known for one song nowadays - the
Dance of the Hours - that's a song almost everyone knows. Many composers don't even have that. Plus, it's a very nice little cabinet card, I think. If we ever get an article on the photographer, it should definitely appear in it, but the lead image of a notable composer is certainly sufficient.
Comment It's a lot brighter than the original image, and that's not documented. Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 04:10, 15 October 2020 (UTC)reply
As far as I can tell, it was automatically uploaded by a bot from the museum image. So when you say "It's a lot brighter than the original image, and that's not documented", I think it would be closer to the truth to say "The image that the museum now makes available is a lot less bright than the one they made available when the bot uploaded it, and they have not documented that change." I think the brighter version looks better; whether it accurately reflects the present level of aging and restoration of the original artwork is of course a different question, but one that without access to the painting itself I have little way of answering. I don't think it would be an improvement to replace with the version the museum currently makes available, though, for a different reason: that version is covered by vertical streaks of distracting white dots, for instance across the face of the taller musician, possibly a combination of cracking in its varnish combined with how it was lit for the scan, possibly because the earlier version (the one we have) included some digital restoration which they later decided to omit. Whatever the reason, it looks worse independent of its choice of light/dark balance. (Also the current museum version appears to be higher resolution and with higher saturation levels, to the point where it looks like the maid has heavy mascara, but again I don't know whether the increased saturation is more or less accurate to the physical object.) —
David Eppstein (
talk) 04:55, 15 October 2020 (UTC)reply
I'll check the histogram once I'm not exhausted and see whether it's blown out at all. That'd be the biggest problem. Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 06:31, 15 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support either Checked the histogram, seems fine. Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 18:32, 16 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support either –
Bammesk (
talk) 15:02, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support either.
MER-C 18:39, 19 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Slight oppose original, support alt 1 I think the new scan available from the museum site is substantially superior. The white crackles are fairly easy to deal with, and in any case don't appear in properly-resized versions; and when zoomed in it's substantially more detailed, and looks far more like a real painting. I've uploaded an extremely quick edit (light dust and scratch filter, slight level adjustment) of the new scan; I'd be a bit loath to promote that as is, as it's clearly not a full restoration, but equally I think it already exceeds the old version so I think it would also be odd to promote the older scan.
TSP (
talk) 16:27, 20 October 2020 (UTC)reply
As I hinted above, I think the new scan is a bit oversaturated. —
David Eppstein (
talk) 17:08, 20 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Yes, perhaps - I'm never sure how far it is sensible to depart from the judgement of the uploading museum on these questions (though in this case they have provided two very different interpretations). As I say, I'm sure this could be improved upon; I just felt even this 10-minute edit already exceeded the original.
TSP (
talk) 13:45, 21 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support alt 1. --
Gnosis (
talk) 18:29, 20 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Promoted File:Street Musicians at the Door - Jacob Octhtervelt (edit).jpg --
ArmbrustTheHomunculus 22:41, 24 October 2020 (UTC)reply
I see eight. –
Sca (
talk) 16:07, 17 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Well spotted
Sca ! They have from six to eight, but nearly all the pictures I've seen have eight.
Charlesjsharp (
talk) 17:59, 17 October 2020 (UTC)reply
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Reason
High quality large image. FP on Commons. Unusually for birds, it is quite impossible to determine the species of many females of the Sporophila genus from a photo.
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Reason
Does a nice job at illustrating Verdi in his late life. His companion Teresa Stolz, the Ricordis who helped his career, his adopted daughter Maria Carrara Verdi, his sister-in-law Barbarina Strepponi; Umberto Campanari, brother to
Leandro Campanari, and one of Verdi's estate lawyers - every person in this has a strong connection to Verdi, and it's photographed at Verdi's house. Downside is it's a bit busy, and not every person is as relevant to every article it appears in. Arguably a little off-centre, though given the varying elements - the tight group left, loose grouping right; the gap between the trees more left, the statue left, the people stretching further right, and such, the composition feels artistic to me without need of cuts.
Support as nominator –
Andrei (
talk) 12:29, 17 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment – Nom. needs a descriptive caption. In the interest of historical transparency, the text should include the fact that, before 1945, the city was the German
Breslau, and that this version of the
town hall was built in 1860-1863 as the Breslauer Rathaus. –
Sca (
talk) 14:13, 17 October 2020 (UTC)reply
If they ever used the FPC captions at POTD. Think they usual just grab from an article. Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 18:23, 17 October 2020 (UTC)reply
who are "they" Adam? Someone has to do it and FP noms should have a bit more than three words.
Charlesjsharp (
talk) 10:23, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Charlesjsharp: I think there's maybe two or three nominations up at the moment (and one of them is the revised caption to this one) that do much more than simply state what the image is of as briefly as possible. If we all agree this is important and start doing it, fine, but we shouldn't hold a nomination to a standard none of us are holding themselves to. I've listed a couple of my nomination descriptions below. Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 23:42, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
POTD is a full, multi-paragraph blurb; no FPC nomination is lengthy enough for that. I'm pretty sure FPC captions are never looked at or used again once the nomination closes. The file description page matters; captions here really don't. Anyway, Support [Edit: Moving this somewhere it can be read more easily] Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 12:38, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
IMO, some summary info about the subject of the pic – no matter what or who – is necessary here for users to make reasonably informed judgments. That seems obvious to me. –
Sca (
talk) 14:01, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Some summary info should be included here for the convenience of users. Quite odd, and unhelpful, to ID the pic with just the name of the file. However, the historical info above was intended also as a suggestion to the nominator. –
Sca (
talk) 15:51, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Sca: I don't know. I look down at my and other people's captions below, and, while I might have needed more words to describe historical images, I just don't feel they're really much more detailed. Using only my own work as... you know, I can grant myself permission to do that, I think I am definitely guilty of exactly the same thing you're criticising this nom for:
Those might have a few more words, but do they really provide much more context? And both are passing. Now, whether we should say more might be worth discussion, but it feels odd to only call out this image when, for example, my A basso porto nom had just about as much context, a major typo in the description (just fixed), and is passing without comment. Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 23:36, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Adam Cuerden and
Sca: As someone who has been doing quite a bit of POTD blurb writing recently, I look at the nomination page and caption, which often provides information not immediately obvious to the observer. The caption is especially important if the linked article is stubby or the image does not have an informative description.
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 11:33, 25 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support. Good capture of a notable and interesting building, an appropriate choice of lead image for its article, and the human fork adds some flavor of the goings-on in the foreground plaza. —
David Eppstein (
talk) 19:07, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Fork? –
Sca (
talk) 21:39, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Fork is amazing, and removing it would be removing a part of the city spirit :) --
Andrei (
talk) 22:10, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support - Just moving my vote here so it's visible. Think it was buried in the conversation above. Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 08:43, 20 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support as nominator – Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 15:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Question is this a substantive enough article? Interested to know where we draw the line as many wildlife articles are very short.
Charlesjsharp (
talk) 10:21, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
It is a fair point. I know that an inufficient article rightly blocks POTD, though I think that there's also the argument that more eyes can be good for getting an article improved. Perhaps I should have nominated this as an example of Cambon's art, or get it into Hugo's article. Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 23:47, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
I expanded it a tiny bit--there's more in the same sources, particularly Affron. I also ran up against a problem: while English-language sources all seem to describe the play as a failure (as does our article), I saw several French-language sources that insist it wasn't (as does
fr:Les Burgraves). I'm not sure how to resolve that--my French isn't good enough to evaluate the reliability of the contrary information.
blameless 01:48, 21 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Promoted File:Humanité René Philastre and Charles-Antoine Cambon - Set design for the second part of Victor Hugo's Les Burgraves, première production.jpg --
ArmbrustTheHomunculus 18:40, 27 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support as nominator –
MER-C 18:58, 17 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support. Image quality is good enough to make out much of the detail of the tiled patterns, something I think is important for this subject. —
David Eppstein (
talk) 19:10, 17 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Question is this a substantive enough article? Interested to know where we draw the line as many wildlife articles are very short.
Charlesjsharp (
talk) 10:21, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose – An interesting structure, but at 130 words the article is really too short for Main Page promotion. –
Sca (
talk) 13:52, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
I expanded the article a little, from stub-class to start-class. —
David Eppstein (
talk) 18:57, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support as nominator –
Bammesk (
talk) 16:36, 18 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Support High-quality microscopy. Only way to improve from there is some form of focus stacking. Adam Cuerden(
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FPs 09:36, 19 October 2020 (UTC)reply
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Reason
It's a high-quality image from the Ricordi archive. I do, however, need to give a couple notes: This image is undated, which, unfortunately, does reduce the EV, and, as an Act V set design, this appears well down the article. I think it's still valuable, but that does need noted to the voters.