Support A good educational video. Slightly weird at the end with the pipes coming from who-knows-where to the condenser, but I can live with that. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 12:40, 24 May 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Adam Cuerden: You're right, however if you look at the first 3 seconds or so of the video you can see that the "Houdini pipes" actually are present and lead to the cooling tower on the right of the video. Water would be circulated there to be cooled before returning to the plant, but you are correct in that they could have done a bit better job of showing/explaining that part.
TomStar81 (
Talk) 15:44, 25 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose - Ogg Theora is not featured quality. -
hahnchen 22:14, 26 May 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Hahnchen: How do I that? Please explain in great detail and in simple English so that I can at least make an attempt to figure it out.
TomStar81 (
Talk) 00:57, 27 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Vote struck: This is not the place to advocate policy change. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 14:58, 27 May 2016 (UTC)reply
This is nothing to do with policy change. A VP9/Opus transcode of the source file would be unambiguously better. I find it hard to believe that the source file was Theora. -
hahnchen 16:05, 27 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support One thing I've always found interesting in these photographs is the difference in hygienic standards between the Civil war and the more recent fighting of the 20th century. Modern regulations mandate that everyone be clean shaven, yet in almost every picture I have ever seen from this time the ranking officers have sideburns, mustaches, beards, or some combination of the above.
TomStar81 (
Talk) 17:46, 25 May 2016 (UTC)reply
I think it's honestly less of a hygiene thing nowadays and more a conformity issue. The army is not known for a love of expressing individuality nowadays... Adam Cuerden(
talk) 23:00, 25 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment - Source doesn't go to a version of this painting. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 00:02, 24 May 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Crisco 1492: I presume you mean "the same version of this painting"? Because, aye, that's an issue. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 14:20, 28 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support as nominator –
PetarM (
talk) 11:56, 23 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment I'd like it more if it were the other end of the flute, which shows the hole as well as the keys. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 20:40, 23 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support – Very nice (good lighting, sharp, etc). @
PetarM: there is a line or gap from x,y=4130,3290 to x,y=3125,2885 (relative to top left corner). Is the gap real? or is it a stacking (stitching) artifact?
Bammesk (
talk) 01:16, 24 May 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Adam Cuerden : dont worry, selected with care. That part is not so interesting, since just hole is visible and not good for compo, its macro shot, buttons are much more interesting. But you can see, other stuff, they never put hole, keys are too far. @
Bammesk yes real gap, borders between A4 note papers. --
PetarM (
talk) 04:33, 24 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support then. A good introduction to the idea. What's the composition it's resting on? My Cyrillic is a little weak. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 12:33, 24 May 2016 (UTC)reply
@
PetarM: I see several A4 paper borders, but the straight line between x,y=4130,3290 and x,y=3125,2885 doesn't look like one of them!?
Bammesk (
talk) 03:26, 25 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose. A fantastic stock photo, but where's the EV? Or am I missing something?
Josh Milburn (
talk) 08:21, 24 May 2016 (UTC)reply
The image shows intricate details of the instrument well (felt and rubber stops, adjustment screw, rod springs, solder joints, resting position of keys). Some of these are discussed in the article (perhaps more can be done). For comparison,
this image shows the full instrument but the details are not clear.
Bammesk (
talk) 03:26, 25 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Bammesk i saw it now. Was wondering if is stitching error, but checked into original files, yes its like there, so problem is in copy of notes - note are copy, that can be seen on some places. I might correct it manually. @
Josh Milburn : What are you missing, how about if you check
here. Maybe more interesting. --
PetarM (
talk) 06:16, 25 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose per Josh.
Samsara 15:06, 25 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose This could be a candidate for Commons, but not here. --
Janke |
Talk 22:21, 25 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose Per other –
Jobas (
talk) 12:14, 26 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose Subject cut off, and musical sheets are distracting (see above conversation about what the music is as an example) which therefore detracts from the subject.
gazhiley 10:21, 27 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 2 Jun 2016 at 23:41:40 (UTC)
Reason
While grainy, it's a high-resolution photo of a notable Meiji-era Japanese general. This is... a very, very underrepresented subject, I think you'll agree.
Support European influenced military uniform, you can really see how the Meji restoration took root in Japan between the collapse of the Tokogawa Dynasty and the Russo-Japanese War.
TomStar81 (
Talk) 02:12, 24 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 3 Jun 2016 at 13:25:07 (UTC)
Reason
This is an electron micrograph (not a photograph) of the viruses that replicate in bacteria at work. The magnification is around 200,000 times. I have lost count of the numerous books and articles that this image has been used in since I gave it to Wikipedia. Please note that the grain is not a photographic artifact; the image was greated by electrons and not photons.
Comment What causes the small white and dark spots? Are they artefacts or some aspect of the reproduction that should be edited out, or original? (I've marked a few of them at
commons:File:Phage.jpgAdam Cuerden(
talk) 16:35, 24 May 2016 (UTC)reply
They are on the original film. They are often seen when
negative stains are used in electron microscopy. The dark spots are probably crystals of the stain used, (
phosphotungstic acid), which are electron dense. The white spots are probably holes in the formvar membrane used to support the preparation. Scientists never, or never should, edit their images.
Graham Beards (
talk) 17:01, 24 May 2016 (UTC)reply
It depends on the purpose, but for proper scientific use, I agree. (For an encyclopedia, we have a little more freedom). That said, if they're original and meant to be there, there's no reason not to Support. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 19:18, 24 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Thanks Adam, I anticipated that this might be an issue.
Graham Beards (
talk) 19:30, 24 May 2016 (UTC)reply
I think it's just one of those cases where if ye can justify it, it's fine. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 20:13, 24 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support – how about adding to the file description, perhaps from the image caption
here, magnification being approximately 200,000, or other pertinent information.
Bammesk (
talk) 02:24, 26 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose - We should not be promoting Ogg Theora files in 2016. Transcode the source file into something better. -
hahnchen 14:39, 26 May 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Hahnchen: How do I that? Please explain in great detail and in simple English so that I can at least make an attempt to figure it out.
TomStar81 (
Talk) 00:56, 27 May 2016 (UTC)reply
The Theora codec, which this video is encoded in, was already outdated in
2013. You should download the video from its source at NASA, and then convert that to WebM format, encoded in
VP9. This file format is more efficient - so a video of the same size as this ogg candidate would be of higher quality. WebM (VP8 and VP9) have significantly better hardware support than Theora, which means that videos can be played on target devices with lower power/battery costs. I wrote some instructions for transcoding video to VP8
here, but you should really be using VP9. -
hahnchen 19:43, 27 May 2016 (UTC)reply
@
TomStar81: you can also do a WebM (VP8) conversion here
[1]. Source is
[2], source file
[3]. Just enter the source file's URL in the box.
Bammesk (
talk) 14:14, 28 May 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Hahnchen and
TomStar81: In order to not use Ogg Theora (or WebM) would require a policy change at the Wikipedia Foundation level. See
Commons:File_types#Video. The oppose is basically invalid, since it's advocating for a policy change in the wrong location. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 11:13, 27 May 2016 (UTC)reply
You are wrong. We're here to promote the best quality files, WebM files are unambiguously better. -
hahnchen 16:02, 27 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 6 Jun 2016 at 20:03:36 (UTC)
Reason
While a somewhat grainy photo, it's from the first production run of a very notable musical, and free-licensed photos of that sort of thing are rare as hen's teeth.
Support - Great shot, glad to see it's free. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 00:14, 28 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support - Where'd they take the photo, Connecticut?
Vesuvius Dogg (
talk) 04:29, 28 May 2016 (UTC)reply
New York City does sometimes have some pretty elabourate sets. If we presume the rear section is a flat, it's not inconceivable they're running through grass wheeled onto the stage. But I may be overthinking. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 08:00, 28 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 7 Jun 2016 at 01:38:11 (UTC)
Reason
Renovations are important, and while tsome people did move during the photo, they're minor blotches on a sharp, clear photo. I've increased the contrast a little bit, otherwise it's just a dust and damage fix. With thanks to
Chris Woodrich for acquiring the original for me.
Comment – Nice restoration, I am leaning to support, but why not do something (anything) about the top and bottom edge tilts. I know it is a historic image and we cannot do "original research", but can't we do anything? clone from nearby areas, fill with flat gray shades to match nearby areas, crop it out, anything?! It is distracting for a FP.
Bammesk (
talk) 14:46, 29 May 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Bammesk: Oh, I see what you mean. I had missed that; it's an easy fix. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 20:52, 29 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Close-up of a Leopard seal yawn displaying teeth. The combination of
canine teeth and
molars allow it to hunt other animals or sieve small organisms from the water.
Support as nominator –
Godot13 (
talk) 03:25, 31 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support – Excellent detail; big improvement over previous pic in infobox at
Leopard seal.
Sca (
talk) 14:24, 31 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Support. While the background of the second image appears to be a bit out of focus, I'm assuming this was done to emphasize the animal's teeth. Either way, wonderful pictures both.
Colonel Wilhelm Klink (Complaints|Mistakes) 01:21, 3 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Promoted File:Antarctic Sound-2016-Brown Bluff–Leopard seal (Hydrurga leptonyx) 04.jpg --
ArmbrustTheHomunculus 03:36, 10 June 2016 (UTC)reply Promoted File:Antarctic Sound-2016-Brown Bluff–Leopard seal (Hydrurga leptonyx) 05.jpg --
ArmbrustTheHomunculus 03:36, 10 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 10 Jun 2016 at 22:15:58 (UTC)
Reason
This effect is described in an article I found some time back that always amused me, but the image illustrating it was below FP quality. At some point when I was not looking, that changed, and now this image is within FPC size guidelines so I am letting it have a run here to see if others think it to be worthy of a Featured Picture star. The image in question illustrates the Cherenkov effect, which creates a blue hue in nuclear material under certain circumstances. Although Cherenkov radiation had been theoretically predicted by the English polymath Oliver Heaviside in papers published in 1888–89, it was first detected experimentally in 1958 by Soviet scientist Pavel Alekseyevich Cherenkov, the 1958 Nobel Prize winner. A theory of this effect was later developed within the framework of Einstein's special relativity theory by Igor Tamm and Ilya Frank, who also shared the Nobel Prize.
Support, assuming this blue tint is attributable to Cherenkov radiation. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 00:19, 1 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Should be, I mean that is what the photograph is supposed to show. That being said, if you'd like to get a second opinion from someone more photographically competent that me I have no objections. Double checking is always a good idea.
TomStar81 (
Talk) 05:08, 1 June 2016 (UTC)reply
I don't know anything about photographing nuclear reactors, and I don't know anyone who does. I'm just noting that a blue tint is possible with lighting etc. I'm not saying that's been done here. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 06:15, 1 June 2016 (UTC)reply
The source flickr account
[4] belongs to a
notable organization, and other google images of "Cherenkov radiation" confirm the blue tint.
Bammesk (
talk) 02:34, 2 June 2016 (UTC)reply
That can probably be let off as an artistic choice. The composition still works, after all, even if it's not standard. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 00:55, 1 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose - Overlit. -
hahnchen 20:59, 3 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment There is a copyright tag on the bottom left with the name "Mel Snyder 2015", don't know if that affects the FPC (nothing in the rules though).
Spongie555 (
talk) 06:37, 6 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose. We should not be supporting any image with an unnecessary watermark, and there definitely seems to be a question mark over the copyright status of this image.
Josh Milburn (
talk) 22:05, 8 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Support - Excellent legacy photo.
Jusdafax 04:09, 3 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment The
original file has been inverted for the reason unclear to me. Is it LoC that has the wrong inversion?
Brandmeistertalk 16:26, 8 June 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Brandmeister: It's on the file description page: The LoC has two scans, each mirror images of each other. I checked carefully, nd realised you can just see a sign in front of the jalopy, with enough letters visible to definitely say the original image was flipped, and the other (lower-quality) scan got it right. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 19:10, 8 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Thanks. There's also some inscription on the box just above the trailer wheel, but it looks illegible to me.
Brandmeistertalk 19:22, 8 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Also, if you presume the line left (in this chirality) of the car in the background is the median line, it would be driving on the left if in the original chirality.
Promoted File:Broke, baby sick, and car trouble! - Dorothea Langes photo of a Missouri family of five in the vicinity of Tracy, California.jpg --
ArmbrustTheHomunculus 23:37, 11 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Support, and I would also support as a set. I wouldn't hang it on my wall, but that's not what this is about.
Josh Milburn (
talk) 21:46, 8 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Support Not a huge van Eyck fan (great faces, but the clothing just seems so slapdash..,) but it's a good reproduction. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 20:35, 11 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Promoted File:Jan van Eyck - Kardinal Niccolò Albergati - Google Art Project.jpg --
ArmbrustTheHomunculus 22:32, 12 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 13 Jun 2016 at 14:05:54 (UTC)
Reason
We have very little FPs from
Formula One. This one has particular significance since it shows current Drivers' World Champion
Lewis Hamilton on his way to victory at the most prestigious race on the calendar, the
Monaco Grand Prix. The composition is great, the colors stunning and the car driving through the relentless rain adds to the flavor.
Comment Lots of chromatic noise, but otherwise acceptable given the speed and such. Can we get a noise reduction? Adam Cuerden(
talk) 14:18, 3 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Due to weight?
Sca (
talk) 16:45, 5 June 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Sca: Due to "don't be a sissy, you're a Formula 1 driver" ;)
Zwerg Nase (
talk) 17:56, 5 June 2016 (UTC)reply
You'll be glad to know that neither of my ancient vehicles has ABS. Does this qualify me as an F1 driver?
Sca (
talk) 00:29, 6 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Support The photo is somewhat under-utilised in both articles (where its simply one of many photos of race cars), but it's an excellent dramatic shot with strong EV
Nick-D (
talk) 02:18, 5 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Support – I agree the photo is stunning. It's a shame that there are not many Formula One featured pictures on this site.
Z105space(talk) 07:44, 5 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Support - I think this would be a very good picture for
Rain tyre also. -
hahnchen 08:13, 5 June 2016 (UTC)reply
That's a great use of it.
Nick-D (
talk) 08:38, 5 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Question Can this be closed with positive result?
Zwerg Nase (
talk) 07:28, 13 June 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Zwerg Nase: It has to run the full period first, but with eight supports and no opposes, it's basically passed. Give it a couple more hours for the timer to tick over, then it should be closed pretty quickly - Armbrust never seems to be away very long. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 11:33, 13 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 15 Jun 2016 at 02:06:41 (UTC)
Reason
A good quality Google Art Project image of a memorable painting by a notable artist. This image is featured on Commons. I replaced a lower quality version of the painting in the artist's article, and just added it to the articles
Ombre and
Brøndums Hotel.
Comment: In many ways, I want to support this. However, I note that it currently appears in two galleries and decoratively in an article about a card game.
Josh Milburn (
talk) 22:10, 8 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Josh, follow your bliss! – I enlarged & moved the pic in the
target article and placed another in the gallery.
Sca (
talk) 22:16, 9 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Support – Her Joy in gilded Chariots, when alive,
And Love of Ombre, after Death survive. —
Alexander Pope
Comment – Oddly enough, while
Ombre describes it as "a card game for three players," there appear to be four in Anna's painting.
Sca (
talk) 18:36, 10 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 15 Jun 2016 at 02:32:43 (UTC)
Reason
Excellent illustration for the article
Cultural influence of Star Trek, already featured on Commons. The shuttle was originally to be named Constitution, but a letter-writing campaign of from Star Trek fans consisting of "hundreds of thousands of letters" petitioned for name to be changed in honor of Star Trek's
USS Enterprise (NCC-1701). For a science fiction entertainment franchise and cultural phenomenon to have such influence over a real-world political decision is notable.
Oppose per the above - this isn't a good example of a promotional photo, nor a particularly good photo of Ms Hunt given the technical problems.
Nick-D (
talk) 07:32, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose Per other –
Jobas (
talk) 21:37, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 19 Jun 2016 at 02:55:34 (UTC)
Reason
A photograph of high resolution that has a free license and adequately provides the same information as a non-free screenshot of a copyrighted web/television program.
Articles in which this image appears
The Young Turks (should also appear in the article
Cenk Uygur but it's currently protected from editing)
Tim Collins through the new
tytvault Flickr account with CC-BY-SA licensing. I requested copyright permission. Also there is a standalone
tytvault website with non-free images.
Support as nominator –
New9374 (
talk) 02:55, 9 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose – Promotional shot, akin to advertising.
Sca (
talk) 13:49, 9 June 2016 (UTC)reply
3a states it "is among the best examples of a given subject"; how are they not among the best example when they are the only photographs of The Young Turks that the encyclopedia has to offer? 3b states it "illustrates the subject in a compelling way [and] has appropriate lighting"; Cenk and Ana are using hand gestures to evoke attention in a powerfully irresistible way and the photographs have appropriate lighting. 3c states it "is not always required to be aesthetically pleasing; it might be [...] just highly informative"; the deconstructed
American flag background is aesthetically pleasing and the photographs are highly informative of the show, its hosts and its studio. I don't see how it being a "promotional shot, akin to advertising" violates the criterion 3 especially when
today's featured picture is taken from
the subject's
official website.
New9374 (
talk) 03:36, 16 June 2016 (UTC)reply
That Emily Batty pic shouldn't have been promoted, either. Promotional.
Sca (
talk) 23:52, 16 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Sca has a long history of objecting to any promotional shots of living people (particularly politicians). As the unanimous support for
the Emily Batty image shows, not everyone agrees with him. Personally I think this image has a lot of character. Sadly, it hasn't gotten much attention. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 00:55, 18 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Sca and Jobas, all objections should be accompanied by a specific rationale that, if addressed, would make you support the image.. Thank you Chris Woodrich, it is unfortunate this picture hasn't gotten much attention and no rationale has been provided for opposes.
New9374 (
talk) 09:43, 18 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Sca has a long history of opposing artificial, staged photos designed to promote or sell a personality, politician, program, product or service, and he will continue to do so based on his training in principles of journalism. However, in this case: Mediocre detail, distracting background, and lack of any visual clue as to why this person would be featured. Thus, puzzling and not "among the best examples of a given subject that the encyclopedia has to offer," IMO. PS: This opinion has nothing to do with
Sca's personal political views. Nor does
Sca have any opinion of the subject(s) of this (these) photos, having never heard of them before.
Sca (
talk) 20:40, 18 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose, not a bad shot, but opposing based on EV. It is not the lead image for the person in question (so limited EV on that page), nor does it show both hosts for tv show (limited EV for the TV program).
Mattximus (
talk) 15:35, 18 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Withdraw Thank you Mattximus.
New9374 (
talk) 02:21, 19 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 19 Jun 2016 at 03:14:42 (UTC)
Reason
A photograph of high resolution that has a free license. It shows the "new" set of the web series The Young Turks. The funding and building of the set were significant moments in the show's production history: $400,000 was
crowdfunded for the studio on
Indiegogo (link
here), the studio's debut was covered in a
Tubefilter article (link
here), and the show has achieved significant popularity following the "new" studio.
Articles in which this image appears
The Young Turks (could also appear in the article
Cenk Uygur but it's currently protected from editing; should also appear in the article
Ana Kasparian)
Tim Collins through the new
tytvault Flickr account with CC-BY-SA licensing. I requested copyright permission. Also there is a standalone
tytvault website with non-free images.
Support as nominator –
New9374 (
talk) 03:14, 9 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose – Promotional shot, akin to advertising.
Sca (
talk) 13:48, 9 June 2016 (UTC)reply
3a states it "is among the best examples of a given subject"; how are they not among the best example when they are the only photographs of The Young Turks that the encyclopedia has to offer? 3b states it "illustrates the subject in a compelling way [and] has appropriate lighting"; Cenk and Ana are using hand gestures to evoke attention in a powerfully irresistible way and the photographs have appropriate lighting. 3c states it "is not always required to be aesthetically pleasing; it might be [...] just highly informative"; the deconstructed
American flag background is aesthetically pleasing and the photographs are highly informative of the show, its hosts and its studio. I don't see how it being a "promotional shot, akin to advertising" violates the criterion 3 especially when
today's featured picture is taken from
the subject's
official website.
New9374 (
talk) 03:36, 16 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose - Not a bad photograph of the set, but any image for the TV program should clearly show the two hosts. The person on the right is only seen in a harsh profile unfortunately. Oppose on grounds of EV.
Mattximus (
talk) 15:37, 18 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Withdraw Thank you Mattximus.
New9374 (
talk) 02:21, 19 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Support – The original "Chick Flick", right? Interesting that this 1929 British promotional poster leaves the director (
Carl Th. Dreyer) unmentioned.
Vesuvius Dogg (
talk) 15:20, 13 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose for now - I think this could use some restoration. I'll pause
Ivor Novello and get on that. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 14:30, 15 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Support - Probably needs a little touch up but still a good image.
Spongie555 (
talk) 07:31, 19 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 21 Jun 2016 at 03:15:18 (UTC)
Reason
Before the United States could put a man on the moon it had to design a machine to get man to the moon, and the machine chosen for this was the Saturn V rocket. Unfortunately, as has always been the case with the new, there were issues with the design that needed to be addressed before the project could get off the ground. Sadly, discovering those issues usually entails the loss of life, and so it was with the Apollo Project as well. On January 27, 1967, during a launch simulation test, an unidentified ignition source (widely believed to be faulty wiring) caused the 100% oxygen in the cabin at the time to ignite. The resulting fire killed the three intended Apollo 1 astronauts and resulted in a major rebuilding of the Command Module design for future Apollo missions and new procedures to effectively respond to and deal with an emergency of this nature.
Oppose – It has EV but as a stand-alone image it can be almost anything. I would support if the composition covered more of the surrounding area and showed some relation to the space program.
Bammesk (
talk) 02:05, 13 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose – Per
Bammesk. Seems a rather grisly scene that doesn't provide much EV.
Sca (
talk) 13:19, 13 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Sorry, but I'm not persuaded that a pic. of the charred module is worth featuring. Everyone who knows about or remembers this tragedy knows the three astronauts were killed; I'm not convinced that scene needs to be shown.
Sca (
talk) 18:22, 13 June 2016 (UTC)reply
@
TomStar81: Either the before and after, or
this (which has some technical issues). I will weak-support either choice, but perhaps others will do full-support. Obviously the images have excellent EV, but there is technical/composition issues IMO.
Bammesk (
talk) 02:35, 14 June 2016 (UTC)reply
It could be removed, but I tend to leave on photographer's identification markings, as part of the image's presentation. This one is borderline, though. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 16:49, 13 June 2016 (UTC)reply
My reaction is, it doesn't really add anything relevant to the content of the photo, and it's a little bit distracting. If this were being used to illustrate types of early 20th C. photos, etc., that would be different. Definitely a face with a lot of character.
Sca (
talk) 18:14, 13 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Support – Love Mrs Pankhurst, and agree on the removal of the fussy photography credit.
Vesuvius Dogg (
talk) 20:08, 13 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Besides, not everyone has a name like Emmeline. (Didn't Chuck Berry do a song about her?)
Sca (
talk) 21:13, 13 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Support – But I agree with the removal of the copyright tag, since it has nothing to do with the person in question, and detracts from the overall image.
Mattximus (
talk) 23:25, 13 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Looks fine.
Sca (
talk) 15:38, 14 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Good work, Adam, and thank you for this one. I'm a collector of photographic carte-des-visites and own another image of Mrs Pankhurst. This one is better.
Vesuvius Dogg (
talk) 16:25, 14 June 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Vesuvius Dogg: Well, if you have any that do need a little restoration, scan them at about 300-600dpi, and I'm happy to go to work. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 17:06, 14 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Support Though the large Mars bumblebee would have more significance, as proof of life on another planet. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 11:59, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose. I'm sorry to do this; the image has a really nice composition and great colours, but I'm not sure it shows the distinguishing features of the species as well as it could. This is a familiar species to many, and so I think we can afford to be particularly discerning.
Josh Milburn (
talk) 07:49, 20 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Support per nom. Very nice photo! Almost everyone is facing away from the camera so this helps with privacy issues.
Mattximus (
talk) 21:49, 15 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Support Beatiful, perhaps one of the coolest town squares.
Brandmeistertalk 08:33, 16 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment: Is that alt a different physical painting?
Josh Milburn (
talk) 18:52, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
@
J Milburn: Has to be. Look at the circular decorations on the right side of the chair. Two of them are missing in the alt. At a guess, the alt was a study for the full-sized painting. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 02:16, 18 June 2016 (UTC)reply
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Reason
A pretty good example of the "arrivals on the ships" style of photojournalism popular in American theatre journalism c. 1910-1930. It's not perfect, but it makes for some interesting candid shots.
Weak Support - Technically rather nice, though I'm not convinced that this needs so much light on her face. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 14:02, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Weak Support – Yeah, the lighting seems kinda gimmicky – as if coming from a large diffuse reflector.
Sca (
talk) 14:41, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Weak Support –
Jobas (
talk) 21:34, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
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Crisco 1492,
Sca, and
Jobas: I think all professional photos are going to be at least a bit gimmicky. They reflect the fashions of the time, like how c. 1910 photographs focus on chiaroscuro, and news photographs a little later loved to photograph the celebrities arriving on ships, or the few fixed standard poses you see in the long-exposure Victorian "hold it for a few minutes" photographs. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 03:12, 19 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Yes, but there's gimmicky handled (rather) well and gimmicky handled like this.
I can accept this.
This too.
This works fine for me because the background is black, even though I would probably have lit the face a bit less. But the Cornwell image being discussed just doesn't work for me. Her face is overlit, and the background and shirt are likewise rather bright, giving relatively little definition to her features (especially at thumbnail size). —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 05:38, 19 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Her all-white apparel exaggerates the lighting effects, too.
Sca (
talk) 12:15, 19 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Weak support. I don't actually share the concerns of the above commenters, but I do question the extent to which the photo actually looks like her.
Josh Milburn (
talk) 12:51, 26 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment: I really like this. Can I ask how big the hardcopy is? I'm assuming that's going to be about as big as it gets?
Josh Milburn (
talk) 18:45, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
The hard copy is a bit bigger than A4, but it is glossy (scanner glare was really bad on some parts of the image, particularly the top part of her hair) and printed on a porous photo paper (and thus the textures were very distracting at full size). My efforts to reduce glare and the prominence of the pores in the paper left the 600 ppi scan too soft to be uploaded at full resolution, hence the downsampling. That being said, I've uploaded a less-downsampled version. The softness is acceptable at 3000px tall (roughly the equivalent of 300 ppi) —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 00:42, 18 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment It looks good, but there's some bits on the nose, just above the upper lip, and in the lower right corner that could probably use a smidgen more cleanup. Adam Cuerden(
talk) 12:24, 18 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Nearly got it. There's a white streak, more or less vertical, below her right nostril (on the right as you're looking at her) that I'd fix, and that looks like a crack on the bottom of her chin. There's also a lighter bit between the TATT studio stamp and her hand, protruding up from the bottom of the image. Just the last couple bits on an otherwise excellent restoration (Support in the meantime) Adam Cuerden(
talk) 15:07, 18 June 2016 (UTC)reply
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Reason
While Afghan Girl is Pashtun, this one is reportedly Nuristani. Once again shows how such poor folks can present themselves better than wealthy politicians on generic shots.
Oppose - Lighting is quite bad. Shadows cover half her face...
Mattximus (
talk) 15:31, 18 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Weak support – Agree the lighting is less than ideal, but facial detail is excellent and the photo has a rather spontaneous feel to it.
Sca (
talk) 20:45, 18 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose. I'm not really sure I see the EV, here; the whole nomination strikes me as a bit weird.
Josh Milburn (
talk) 15:56, 19 June 2016 (UTC)reply
My guess is it's an effort to highlight an obscure ethnic group, of which probably few in the West ever have heard. (Would 'woman' perhaps be more appropriate than 'girl' for this person?)
Sca (
talk) 20:31, 19 June 2016 (UTC)reply
The EV here is the article
Nuristanis, with apparent distinguishing features of this girl compared to an average Afghan.
Brandmeistertalk 21:45, 19 June 2016 (UTC)reply
"this one is reportedly", "Once again shows how such poor folks", "this girl", "an average Afghan". It's all a bit colonial for me. My oppose stands.
Josh Milburn (
talk) 07:46, 20 June 2016 (UTC)reply
As a side note, I oppose colonialism, this is purely genetics and natural way of things.
Brandmeistertalk 11:22, 21 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose Per other –
Jobas (
talk) 22:08, 19 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Support - Interesting lighting and subject, restoration appears of good quality.
Jusdafax 02:26, 20 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Support as scanner/uploader - One of the beautiful characteristics of a platinum print is lack of deterioration with age. This image was well preserved for decades within the front blank pages of a volume of poetry. Perhaps just as notable is the ghost image that was produced on the facing page.
Londonjackbooks (
talk) 14:17, 20 June 2016 (UTC)reply