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The result was delete. The WP:SYNTH arguments are compelling and have remained unrebutted: it is not clear why two separate companies and their products ought to be treated in the same article. This does not prevent recreation as separate articles. Sandstein 10:46, 18 December 2022 (UTC) reply

CEM and SSM chips

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Different enough that it's not a G4, but disruptively re-created and nothing to indicate concerns raised in the discussion have been satisfied. Suggest SALT if this closes the same way. Star Mississippi 19:08, 3 December 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Keep - I kept out of the last AfD as I felt the page was appropriate, but not in the form it was in; a list of components. For those who don't know, both the CEM and SSM chips were the foundations to electronic music and to its sound, all through the 80s. In fact, in the 2010s they were re-created by companies like Music Tribe and Alfa-APAR, and are now used in modern synthesizers like the Oberheim OB-X8 and others. Definitely worthy of an article describing their genesis and influence on modern music over the past 40 years, but not a list of components. Happy to add to it if it survives this AfD - Alison talk 19:16, 3 December 2022 (UTC) reply
Are you able to provide reliable sources to back this up please? Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:59, 4 December 2022 (UTC) reply
I am, indeed, and a whole bunch of the WP:RS is in books and articles dating back to the 70s and 80s. There are papers written about them, plus dozens of publication, books etc. What I don't have much of, unfortunately, is time to apply to this, especially if it all gets flushed down the drain anyways- Alison talk 00:09, 5 December 2022 (UTC) reply
@ Alison if it closes as delete, I'm happy to draftify it for you or any established editor. (Also, love seeing your name on my watchlist again.) Star Mississippi 00:17, 5 December 2022 (UTC) reply
Thank you :) I'm a little sad about this AfD, as it's one of those niche but critical subjects that often gets overlooked. It needs to be related, but in layperson's terms. How many people know that Van Halen's "Jump" is played on an Oberheim OB-Xa, which is absolutely stuffed to the gills with CEM chips. The Oberheim article mentions this. So folks don't know that that particular *sound* is entirely down to the work that Doug Curtis did, and Tom Oberheim leveraged. These ICs brought low-volume, high-dollar niche synthesizers into the realms of being affordable by musicians. That was almost entirely down to being able to put a VCO / VCA / VCF series of modules into simple chips. It was revolutionary! Ironically, these were ultimately killed off by the Yamaha DX-7 and later Korg and Roland ROMplers, but funny enough - they're back, and FM and ROMplers kinda aren't :) - Alison talk 00:25, 5 December 2022 (UTC) reply
A big chunk of the history of these ICs and how they influenced instruments is laid out in this book, for example - Alison talk 00:14, 5 December 2022 (UTC) reply
The list of components and what synths they are used in was an invaluable reference for me; having that information scattered across dozens of individual synth pages was not a viable substitute for my use case. What's the essential difference between a list of a couple dozen synth ICs and a list of literally hundreds of GPU chipsets like /info/en/?search=List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units ? Kaleja ( talk) 17:55, 8 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Like the last version of this page, there is no demonstration of notability, no sources, and no obvious potential for this to become a truly encyclopedic article. Popcornfud ( talk) 08:09, 4 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - While it is true that the current state of the article needs serious work, the sources Alison provided above does show notability. The article meets WP:GNG. I'm obviously not able to view the previous version of the article so I can't comment on that, but on the strict question of "it is notable" the answer seems to be "yes". - Aoidh ( talk) 13:22, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - The article confuses two distinct separate brands together. --19:26, 6 December 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rob Kam ( talk • contribs)
  • Keep without prejudice to splitting. I don't see the problem here. The previous article was a list of these chips and was rightly deleted per WP:NOTDIR, the new article is a prose description of the topic. It needs better sourcing, but I have no reason to doubt the sources that Alison provided. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:35, 8 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep for the reasons listed by Alison, with a possible split or move to something like "Analog synthesiser ICs". PaulT2022 ( talk) 10:37, 9 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 20:53, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Jeannie Elias

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Doesn't demonstrate any notability. Fails WP:GNG. OceanHok ( talk) 18:41, 3 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Delete. Note that I removed five pages of credits as unsourced shortly before this nomination, that earlier version can be seen here. Looks like Elias probably doesn't meet the "significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows" of WP:NACTOR, with even IMDB's "known for" section listing only minor roles. Belbury ( talk) 18:55, 3 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Women, and Canada. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:39, 3 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. As always, actresses are not automatically notable just because the article contains (contained, in this case) a list of roles nominally verified by an IMDb profile — the notability of an actress hinges on the amount of reliable source coverage that can be shown about her acting, such as profiles of her, reviews of her roles which single her performance out for dedicated attention, properly sourced verification that she won or was nominated for a major national acting award, and on and so forth. It's not "has had roles", in other words — every actor has always had roles, because that's the job description — it's "gets over WP:GNG on substantive coverage about her and her roles. But that is and was absent here. Bearcat ( talk) 17:38, 4 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: I think the subject meets the second limb of WP:NACTOR—that is, she has worked prolifically as a voice actress. There are lots of hits at newspapers.com. I don't know if they will make out WP:GNG, but the SNG appears to be made out, and only one need be met. I will try and get some articles from newspapers.com clipped. Dflaw4 ( talk) 11:49, 9 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: I've now requested a selection of articles from newspapers.com to be clipped. I should have them within the next few hours. Thanks, Dflaw4 ( talk) 12:55, 9 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment. Currently the roles are IMO extremely minor for WP:NACTOR, the article is a poorly sourced WP:BLP and my search mainly found trivial mentions, therefore IMO WP:GNG and WP:NBASIC are probably failed. However, @ Dflaw4: has stated there might be a list of plausible sources identified at resources exchange. Dflaw4, were you able to access the sources? You stated that I should have them within the next few hours, at the time I'm writing this two days has passed, could you still access the clippings at resources exchange? If so, could you please link those here and ping me so that I can have a look if it is possible? Many thanks! VickKiang (talk) 02:06, 11 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Unless significance or significance coverage can be shown by {u|Dflaw4}} search. My search did not show any results meeting the required standard. KeepItGoingForward ( talk) 08:51, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was redirect to Childfree Russia with the option of merging sourceable content. Vanamonde ( Talk) 20:35, 12 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Edward Lisovskii

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Does not meet WP:GNG: coverage is never of Lisovskii himself, but rather interviews or addresses him as a spokesperson for Childfree Russia. I think that the assembled sources do establish the notability of that organization, but editors working on the page have ignored my suggestion to convert this article into an article about the group. I was unable to find any better coverage in Russian online, searching through Bing, Google, and Yandex/Dzen. signed, Rosguill talk 16:55, 19 November 2022 (UTC) reply

Just published a separate page about Childfree Russia as you suggested GeryLud ( talk) 12:18, 21 November 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep as Lisovskii is the only public figure and an opposing to current Kremlin regime activist who is developing childfree movement in Russia and forced Russian legislators even to adopt a new law which forbids to spread "childfree propaganda". There is also a problem, that many good sources are coming from a banned Lenta.ru news website, which is one of the biggest in Russia and in terms of critics of Lisovskii it is kind of reliable (but not about Russian-Ukraine war of course). Also, as s possible resolution, I've created a separate page Childfree Russia. Maybe the both pages could be united. -- GeryLud ( talk) 12:22, 21 November 2022 (UTC) reply
    In the absence of significant coverage about Lisovskii outside the context of Childfree Russia, I think that merge to Childfree Russia is appropriate. signed, Rosguill talk 15:26, 21 November 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete or merge with related pages. There is no page about him on Russian wiki. He is mentioned, though, in the article ru:Чайлдфри (i.e. "Childfree"), but there is a looped link to the English Edward Lisovskii page in question, which is not okay. The cited news links there include his media, but don't mention his name directly. And if it does somewhere, it'd be a WP:WI1E case for now. -- Suitskvarts ( talk) 09:30, 23 November 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I have updated a page Childfree Russian with new links and details. -- GeryLud ( talk) 16:05, 24 November 2022 (UTC) reply

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Redirect or merge to the article about the foundation, I don't see notable coverage about him as an individual. Oaktree b ( talk) 18:50, 3 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - I've added new facts and sources to the article, namely how Kremlin forced Lisovskii to praise Russian occupation of Crimea; Lisovskii's online communities had 1 million users before being blocked in 2013-2014; and that he and his team consult over 7000 Russian women on childfree and getting pregnant decision. 178.217.44.176 ( talk) 13:49, 8 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    I consider, that the person got general notability per sources analyses and achievements. 178.217.44.176 ( talk) 13:50, 8 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    Again, there have been no edits since this was nominated for AfD on November 19th. IPs insistent claims that they have provided new material are crossing over into disruption, particularly considering that when you look at the article's edit history, the only source added by IP edits is this one, which doesn't even mention Lisovskii. signed, Rosguill talk 15:54, 8 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    @ Rosguill that was me. I registered an account. sorry for that. the browser did not save my changes. I again put them into the article. now successfully. Дядя Пётр ( talk) 13:59, 9 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    Thanks for following up, although I think that the cited sources suffer from the same problem as the prior sources: they cover Lisovskii only in the context of his capacity as a spokesperson and founder of Childfree Russia--for as long as that remains his only claim to fame, his biography should be merged to the organization's article. signed, Rosguill talk 16:54, 9 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Redirect to Childfree. Notability is largely WP:INHERITED from the organisation. MrsSnoozyTurtle 07:55, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep (with a small dose of WP:SNOW). Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 07:18, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Spoiler Alert: The Hero Dies

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It appears that this article for this book was solely created because a movie based on it was recently released. All the information (two sentences) present in this article can be found on the author's page. Babar Suhail ( talk) 22:48, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

See WP:ARTN as well. Erik ( talk |  contrib) ( ping me) 23:09, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) ❯❯❯ Raydann (Talk) 11:17, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Mickey Slim

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The topic, about an alleged popular cocktail made from gin and DDT (yes, I'm talking about that DDT), seems to fail WP:GNG, both in regard to in-depth coverage and in regard to reliability of sources. It basically relies on a claim made in one source (the 2001 book The Dedalus Book of Absinthe), which was re-reported in a couple other places. That source was not even focused on this topic – it was focused on absinthe, which is not an ingredient of this alleged cocktail. We don't know for sure that this source was reliable. We don't know for sure that the cocktail that is the subject of the article ever really existed. Probably it didn't, both because DDT is not very soluble and also because people don't generally entertain themselves by drinking insecticide. Maybe the myth originated from a fellow named George Alexander Campbell, who promoted DDT usage in the early 1970s (per some discussion at http://microkhan.com/2010/06/09/the-myth-of-the-mickey-slim/). Maybe not, but the drink is probably a made-up story that got repeated sporadically because it sounded interesting, not because it was a real phenomenon. It is sometimes said that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and such evidence is lacking. The evidence that this drink existed is pretty thin, and there really doesn't seem to be enough in-depth information about it out there to say anything about it with confidence. It has been more than 16 years since the previous delection nomination discussion, and maybe the consensus on what is considered adequate quality of sourcing and depth of coverage has changed since then. —⁠ ⁠ BarrelProof ( talk) 00:44, 4 December 2022 (UTC) reply

From google books: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], this one is particularly interesting since the only part available says it disproves the mickey slim as ever existing but it came out this year so I can't find an easy online source, although it's somewhat based on a blog: [8].
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Keep based on the explanation with sources above, I can't access most of them from my location. Will assume good faith. Oaktree b ( talk) 00:13, 12 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. This discussion has been relisted 3 times and I still see no consensus. Maybe, after a suitable period of time, a second AFD could be held to break the logjam between those advocating Keep and those who believe the page should become a Redirect. Liz Read! Talk! 03:33, 18 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Ghoultown

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Not covered by reliable sources. RockabillyRaccoon ( talk) 11:47, 20 November 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Redirect. This is extremely weak coverage and wholly not enough to be "kept". AllMusic should only be used for reviews. Blabbermouth is questionable as a source per WP:RSN discussions but even in this case, it's a reposted interview (primary source). The Fort Worth Weekly is a local alt weekly, not proving wider notability. Dread Central has no hallmarks of a reliable source and Auxillary is a passing mention. Doesn't look good. Redirect to Lyle Blackburn as the group's independently notable founder to preserve what can be preserved, but the coverage of the band itself is clearly lacking. czar 17:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
Blabbermouth is considered reliable per /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums/Sources though -- FMSky ( talk) 18:03, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
Source designations are not incontrovertible. That list says Blabbermouth was last discussed in 2013—nearly a decade ago. There have been more recent discussions at WP:RSN. In the case of this specific article, it is clearly quoting an outside interview at length. That doesn't make the primary source any less of a primary source unless a journalist is reliably adding analysis atop it. We wouldn't cite an interview from any source as indicative of a subject's notability as what matters is the secondary source's analytic consideration of what makes the topic noteworthy. czar 19:35, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Redirect to Lyle Blackburn because the subject does not pass WP:N. The AllMusic biography is pretty short and the RSN discussion noted by Czar suggests the source does not contribute to notability. I thought I'd also mention that I don't quite see how it was determined that Tom Demalon is a staff writer. I don't see a page listing the staff of the website and when I search the person's name I get a biography for him, which refers to Demalon as a musical artist with music credits and briefly mentions that he has written for MTV. The Dread Central source is written by "Mr. Dark", which seems less reliable than a source written by a WP:CONTRIBUTOR considering we don't even know the author's name. Saying that a subject has notability per Google is an example of the argument to avoid WP:GHITS. The Blabbermouth source is an WP:INTERVIEW and the Fort Worth Weekly source is both a local alt weekly as well as largely being made up of quoted/interview material. The Auxillary source is clearly a WP:TRIVIALMENTION. The Missoula Independent source found by Garuda3 appears to be the best source available, but I would expect to see a couple more sources of similar quality to demonstrate notability. TipsyElephant ( talk) 13:30, 13 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment As per Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources AllMusic staff written biographies are reliable sources and used in thousands of articles including featured articles, the RSN discussion linked shows that many comments support it's reliability with some dissensions and there is no consensus that only reviews can be used. Dread Central is a reliable source as per Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Resources and used in thousands of articles so the dismissal of these sources is against established consensus imv Atlantic306 ( talk) 22:08, 14 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    The linked, recent RSN discussion consensus supersedes the music WikiProject's decade-old list. czar 05:30, 15 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I don't think a redirect would benefit our readers. Having two discographies on one page would confuse matters. There is ample content here for an individual article. Garuda3 ( talk) 22:14, 14 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    I'm not sure I understand what the issue is here with a redirect. Lyle_Blackburn#Ghoultown already includes the Ghoultown discography, and redirects are commonly used on Wikipedia so I'm not sure why it would cause any confusion. TipsyElephant ( talk) 11:22, 16 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Redirect to Lyle Blackburn. Doesn't pass GNG. I didn't find anything on the internet. `~HelpingWorld~` (👽🛸) 07:34, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 20:52, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Jin Yuquan

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Does not meet WP:GNG, should be redirected to their more notable relative Jin Youzhi. The sole accessible source cited (in a prior revision of the article) is this People's Daily article, which is primarily about Yuquan's brother Jin Yuzhang. No significant coverage of Yuquan appears to exist, having searched Google Scholar and the general internet in both English and Chinese (with the aid of translation software). signed, Rosguill talk 21:57, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was Withdrawn. Avilich ( talk) 02:27, 11 December 2022 (UTC) ( non-admin closure) reply

Jim Denney (ski jumper born 1983)

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Non-notable olympian. Has a passing mention here (if the same person) but no significant coverage found. Avilich ( talk) 21:29, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 20:51, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Kurt Stein

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Non-notable olympian, only available coverage consists of passing mentions. Avilich ( talk) 21:20, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Keep - Hall of Fame inductees strike me as particularly notable and I have added it to the article accordingly. Nice find @ BeanieFan11!
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You probs have some sort of rebuttal in the chamber ready to go for this but KEEP, all olympians are notable. Americanfreedom ( talk) 21:25, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 20:50, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Brian Welch (ski jumper)

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Non notable olympian Avilich ( talk) 21:13, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep, withdrawn by nominator with no other delete opinions. — David Eppstein ( talk) 22:46, 11 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Xia Suntong

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. One of over a 100 co-authors on the Draft History of Qing. There are limited auction results for the artist: https://www.mutualart.com/Artist/Xia-Suntong/F873E5274457B2F8/AuctionResults, but I could not find other English references showing significance. KeepItGoingForward ( talk) 20:24, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Bearing in mind WP:CONTN, this is a sad case of WP:BIAS, given the plethora of Chinese-language sources on this Qing scholar, e.g. [9], [10], [11]. Baike Baidu has a brief outline too for an easy starter. A quick look at the nominator's talk page doesn't exactly inspire confidence: he comes across as an inexperienced and trigger-happy deletionist who just takes a glance at page one of Google and calls it a day. KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 21:32, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
Also, the 100 co-authors were not all of equal standing, and according to this study Xia contributed the most! [12] KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 21:35, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
That would also be good information to add to the page Draft_History_of_Qing. KeepItGoingForward ( talk) 21:49, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
You are most welcome to do it yourself. KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 22:19, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
Please do not undertake personal attacks. You are right that the article does not determine notability; however, this being a English wiki and all the sources you have provided are not English, how about translating the relevant sections and putting them into references for the article? At the moment the only reference in the article is a book with no page number or translation provided of the relevant section. KeepItGoingForward ( talk) 21:47, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
I'm not obligated to do so, although I would if you had just proposed that instead of nominating the page for deletion. The 'personal attacks' are warranted insofar as they pertain to your troubling pattern of nominating a whole slew of articles for deletion to varying success. Your comments about 'this being a English (sic) wiki' once again demonstrate WP:BIAS. Xia is without a doubt notable, nuff said! KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 22:00, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
Just as a note you removed the tags today, which shows another editor also was concerned about this page since April 2020: "This article may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. The specific problem is: One source is just a book and doesn't cite page or author. (April 2020)
The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for biographies. (April 2020)
This article relies largely or entirely on a single source. (April 2020)"
You also removed the one reference that this article relied on and then replaced it with another. Did the previous reference not reference Xia Suntong, and was placed in error? KeepItGoingForward ( talk) 22:31, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
No, it was not placed in error. I just thought this new source was better and more succinct (although the previous source does contain a detailed commentary on his writings which can be reintroduced later.) You would know if you read the source for yourself—and if you haven't, because you can't access it, you shouldn't assume bad faith. KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 23:40, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
I think you should do something more productive instead of randomly trying to delete articles of things or people you know nothing about. Just my honest opinion. KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 23:41, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
Can you apply WP:NONENG, so that myself and others can read the relevant portion of the reference? KeepItGoingForward ( talk) 06:58, 11 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was withdrawn. BD2412 T 16:25, 11 December 2022 (UTC) reply

John A. Bell

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I can find nothing of significance about this subject other than that they coached a relatively minor college football team to two losing seasons in 1959 and 1960. I see nothing at WP:NCOLLATH that supports notability here. BD2412 T 20:14, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Keep He was the athletic director as well: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/114433480/head-coach-and-athletic-director-john/ PK-WIKI ( talk) 03:37, 11 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. If an editor wants to work with this master list to try to create acceptable smaller lists, contact me and I can restore it and move it into Draft space. As it is right now though , there is no support to Keep this list, as is, in the main space of the project. Liz Read! Talk! 18:54, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

List of dystopian music, TV programs, and games

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Wikipedia is not TV Tropes, which is how the article is currently formatted. I have no opposition to a List of dystopian television shows or List of dystopian video games for navigational purposes, however. But that information can be better drawn from the respective categories, and this page would not have a redirect target, so I don't see a need for this page as it stands. Why? I Ask ( talk) 19:14, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Delete indiscriminate, not a logical article at all. Dronebogus ( talk) 14:01, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 10:14, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Woodall Peak

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Not Notable. It's just a small peak made by rock. ​​​​​​​𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️ Let's Talk ! 17:29, 3 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 18:50, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Gabi Ben-Dor

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As the subject of the article I ask to remove it because unfortunately, the page has become a political arena against me, and I don't want Wikipedia to be a platform for that. Waysdays ( talk) 18:45, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 15:35, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Serpent (band)

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This band's common name makes searching tough, but searching in conjunction with member names or album titles leads to few useful results. I can find no significant and reliable coverage of their career or professional album reviews, and they are only visible in typical retail listings and basic directories like Metal Archives. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 14:40, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was speedy keep /nomination withdrawn. Clearly my search was broken. We don't need to prolong this. Star Mississippi 17:24, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Neil Wilson (baseball)

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Short MLB career. DePRODded by @ Penale52: but that editor's search results don't align with mine and while I don't have full newspapers.com access, what I do have access to identifies nothing in depth for this athlete. I don't think his MiLB MVP is enough for ANYBIO, so bringing this here for discussion. Courtesy @ Jacona: as original PRODder. Star Mississippi 14:13, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Star Mississippi 16:02, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

National Ballet Academy and Trust of India

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I don't think this is notable enough and passes WP:GNG. Lack of references and Fails WP:SIGCOV. I put this for afd for other's opinion. Tictictoc ( talk) 10:55, 3 December 2022 (UTC) reply

*Comment: Seems topic is notable but lack of references it meets Soft Delete. Enclaim ( talk) 07:41, 9 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Gavin McInnes#Censored.TV and Get Off My Lawn launch. Mojo Hand ( talk) 15:05, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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Removed all the self sourced content about shows. Have left what little viable information is used and it fails WP:N with what remains. The best source is Salon, which is an entire article based on a single social media post by Milo without any additional reporting by Salon. Add in creation by now blocked UPE for bonus points. Slywriter ( talk) 14:01, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Consensus is sourcing is insufficient Star Mississippi 16:01, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Damola Ayegbayo

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Stellar artist but no significant coverage or independent coverage. Interviews, profiles, influencer profiles and clickbait references in the first 9 refs. Fails WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep Talk 11:21, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

    • Confirming the sources mentioned are ok shows he is notable. All the souces mentioned about him are more than 9 - 15 lines that alone ought to be enough to establish his notability and he holds the largest painting and visual artworks of an individual in Nigeria and also the youngest largest arts holder in Nigeria with over 1500 artworks and all this are well established in the sources not to forget he also has a book written about him by a notable proficient writer Abayomi Mighty and also his artworks been used as a book cover by a notable publisher in USA HarperCollins Bernice2019 ( talk) 22:06, 16 December 2022 (UTC) reply
This is not significant coverage. scope_creep Talk 06:24, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply
This is written from NPOV and is independent of the subjects and the sources is reliable kindly see [25] and also he was listed among the top 5 artist that has made an historical impacts in Nigeria see [26]. Bernice2019 ( talk) 07:04, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. – filelakeshoe ( t / c) 🐱 16:30, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Andreas Wallan Wahl

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I couldn't find sufficient sources to pass WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO. Could be redirected to Therion (band) as that seems to be the more prominent of the bands he was in, and he is mentioned briefly in the main text. Suonii180 ( talk) 11:07, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 09:26, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Kartiki Gonsalves

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Fails WP:SIGCOV. Refs are two interviews. G4'd. Added to coincide with the release of "The Elephant Whisperers" which was drafted. No independent coverage. scope_creep Talk 10:07, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 09:25, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Bageshwori Dutt Chataut

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Appears to be a non-notable losing political candidate, failing WP:NPOL. With regards to WP:GNG, a WP:BEFORE search in both English and Nepali returned only a couple of sources that mention his name without WP:SIGCOV (such as [27]). De-PRODed last year with a couple of sources added (AGF as they are offline), but they also seem to be relatively passing mentions. Curbon7 ( talk) 08:37, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 09:22, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Yvonne Bajela

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Businessperson doesn't seem to meet WP:NBIO - lacks in-depth coverage in independent sources. MrsSnoozyTurtle 07:53, 3 December 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Delete References are profiles and intervies. 4 Forbes refs, 2 by contributor, 1 is a profile, 1 is Forbes under 30 which are Non-RS. 2 is an interview, primary, one is a routine annoucement of being employed, one is a company ref, 1 is a another profile, and the last one is waste of time. Most either primary as interviews, Non-rs forbes refs or profiles written the Bajela. No really significant coverage outside the business. There is a Guardian article but is the business. Fails WP:BIO, WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep Talk 08:25, 4 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sourcing has not been identified Star Mississippi 15:42, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Al Mashhad News

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Soft deleted at AfD in September, then restored. Notability stills looks highly doubtful to me - plenty of launch PR but no real in depth coverage in RIS. Mccapra ( talk) 07:14, 3 December 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Keep: The the page has huge credibility and notability in the non English speaking space with a plethora of Arabic sources and English sources. If the only criteria is only English sources we will miss out on a lot of credible non English entities , regional businesses and articles. The page is immensely notable in Arabic and English with credible sources in Arabic and English . It is a notable entity in the non English and Arabic speaking world as well as English ( Yubabaogino ( talk) 07:32, 5 December 2022 (UTC)) reply
Can you link to some examples of the plethora of reliable Arabic sources please? Mccapra ( talk) 08:38, 9 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 07:14, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

George Bingham Rollins

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Several of his relatives are notable, but I don't think this fellow is. There's a bunch of passing mentions to him owning a painting by George Caleb Bingham, but none of them that I've seen rise to significant coverage. https://www.google.com/books/edition/B%C4%93ta_Th%C4%93ta_P%C4%AB/1tbx9mDsrAoC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22george+bingham+rollins%22&pg=PA398&printsec=frontcover We've got this short obit here published by an organization he was part of], but not much more. His death via falling into a well gained a bit of coverage at the time because his family was so prominent, but WP:NOTINHERITED applies and I don't think he meets WP:GNG on his own. Hog Farm Talk 06:31, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 06:26, 15 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Finger Family

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Previously PRODed by Fram deprodded by article creator, but this is an extremely minor song from a minor YouTube video. It is completely unsourced except for a link to a non-RS wiki, I didn't find more refs per WP:BEFORE. Therefore, WP:GNG and WP:NSONG are obviously failed. VickKiang (talk) 05:45, 3 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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Comment This is about what I find [29], but I don't know if it's the same nursery rhyme. If not, I'd just !delete. Oaktree b ( talk) 23:02, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
@ Oaktree b: Good find, it is about this song but it might not be WP:SIGCOV. Only the first section appear to have independent direct in-depth information, the second section is just a interview (which might sometimes be usable, interviews can occasionally be generously speaking non-primary and fully independent IMO, but in this case is just routine information about the founder in general, views, and comments, instead of giving any critical analysis about the song). So IMO the paragraphs from the interview should be excluded.
Of the first section, only four of its paragraphs actually cover the song, which has some analysis but also refers to routine statistics (e.g., 3 million views), and one paragraph just quotes Rhoade's opinion, To Rhoades, its success is both hilarious and inexplicable. “My favorite part of this experience is lording the views over my two teenage nephews, who are both video-game streamers on YouTube,” she says. “I’m the YouTube queen of my family again!” So IMO it's (generously) debatably SIGCOV, and in any case IMHO one ref is insufficient for GNG/NSONG, but thanks for the find and appreciate your work. Thanks. VickKiang (talk) 00:06, 11 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 09:20, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Shrinkhala Devi

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Lacks reliable sources for the article's claims. The topic is confusing (right now). Topic is subject to inclusion in Wikipedia but in its current state it is not ready for mainspace. Not in accordance with WP:WORLDVIEW. Draft article exists which is no better, Draft:Shrinkhala Devi. Previous deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shrinkhala Devi ❯❯❯ Raydann (Talk) 05:35, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. BLP and sourcing concerns Star Mississippi 15:36, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Rewards for Justice Terror List

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I PROD'd this list because I was concerned about the lack of sourcing. There are many individuals named on this list as having a bounty on their heads and we don't have articles on that individual on Wikipedia that could be used as some sort of verification (and I realize that Wikipedia can not be used as a source but the articles would have citations on it that could be used on this list). This seems like a potential BLP nightmare to be identifying individuals by name as terrorists without any referencing to a source or having any other information on them on the project but the fact that they are wanted terrorists. There is a DOS website listed as the source of information for this "Terror List" but I didn't have much success navigating it to find confirmation for some of these people. I think there should be direct citations or this list should be deleted. Liz Read! Talk! 04:50, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. As noted, a potential BLP nightmare, and would be rather pointless even if sourced, since it would then be a duplication of an existing database elsewhere which is both authoritative and kept up to date. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 05:00, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
Hi @ Liz how are you? I hope all is well. I just added sources for the first person on Rewards For Justice Terror List. If you have free time, will you take a look and provide feedback? Thanks! Komorijuno ( talk) 14:11, 11 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 03:38, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

2009 FIBA Africa Under-16 Championship for Women squads

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Fails WP:NLIST and WP:GNG. All non notable entries and not covered in third party sources. Also nominating:

LibStar ( talk) 04:38, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Strongest possible delete all - fails WP:GNG and WP:LISTPEOPLE. The latter accepts that articles can be created if those included meet Wikipedia notability standards, which is not the case here. Also, non-notable people can be included if their inclusion is supported by reliable sources - WP:RS states Articles should be based on reliable, independent, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy., which is not the case here. FIBA organises the event so clearly is not an independent source. Article is essentially a mirror of content from FIBA so WP:NOTMIRROR applies. Since this article holds sensitive details for people not in the public eye, I strongly request deletion per WP:NPF; exercise restraint and include only material relevant to the person's notability, focusing on high-quality secondary sources and also WP:DOB; With identity theft a serious ongoing concern, many people regard their full names and dates of birth as private. Wikipedia includes full names and dates of birth that have been widely published by reliable sources, or by sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object to the details being made public. Please, please consider these points and delete this article from Wikipedia. Thank you. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:03, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete. Under-16 = children. For child safety and privacy reasons, we shouldn't be re-publishing lists of non-notable teenagers, nor creating redlinks out of their names as though to suggest each of those children is individually notable. Cielquiparle ( talk) 12:08, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sourcing is insufficient for this to exist in mainspae, but the subject could be notable.. It's unclear whether someone wants to actively work on the draft but I have reverted the redirect so Draft:Board of Intermediate and Secondary Education, Shaheed Benazirabad will continue to exist vs. being deleted as G6. If no one ultimately wants to pursue that, it can be handled via G13 Star Mississippi 15:33, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Board of Intermediate and Secondary Education, Shaheed Benazirabad

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Board of Intermediate and Secondary Education, Shaheed Benazirabad

There is nothing in this article that attests to general notability. An article should speak for itself, and this article does not. There is already a draft, because the originator may be trying to overwhelm the system. This article can be deleted, and the draft can be kept. Robert McClenon ( talk) 06:59, 26 November 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Keep - Plenty of reliable news sources that confirm its existence as an educational board running under Government of Sindh:
  1. New BISE on the cards
  2. Shaheed Benazirabad: Sindh cabinet removes Dr Farooq as BISE chairman
  3. CHEATING THE SYSTEM
  4. Meeting about students’ scholarships tomorrow
  5. Person with dubious credentials appointed as VC
  6. Sindh changes timings for intermediate exams

Article written poorly shouldn't be the reason for its deletion. Insight 3 ( talk) 10:10, 26 November 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. If anyone wants to continue to work on this article in Draft space, contact me. Liz Read! Talk! 03:57, 14 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Diana Yesenia Alvarado

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Not a G4 but same issues at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Diana Yesenia Alvarado remain and editors keep moving it out of draft space because there's always a class project. History of that article is at the deleted (G13, mostly) Draft:Diana Yesenia Alvarado. No evidence she's a notable artist. Star Mississippi 04:31, 3 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Courtesy heads up to instructor @ AlmaLopezGDA, @ LiAnna (Wiki Ed) who worked with them last time and @ User:Ian (Wiki Ed) who appears to be supporting the class this time. Thoughts on how this can meet the goals of the class without necessarily being moved before it's ready, should consensus remain? Star Mississippi 04:34, 3 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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If it helps the students, I'm not at all against it. It looks like the last one was a G13 before it could be of use to this semester. Any thoughts on that aspect @ LiAnna (Wiki Ed) & @ Ian (Wiki Ed)? Star Mississippi 15:24, 13 December 2022 (UTC) reply
@ Star Mississippi I never really thought about it, but it would be nice if there was some way to surface when students assign themselves G4-eligible articles, or when a prior draft was deleted as a G13. Where does that info in the pink box for previously-deleted articles come from? The logs for that page? Let me talk to Sage (Wiki Ed) about what might be possible (if/when time permits for him to work on something like that). Ian (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 16:14, 13 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:25, 12 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Judaism and pop and rock music

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The article is called "Judaism and pop and rock music". Judaism is widely understood as the religion of the Jewish people. Despite this, the article has no actual information on the attitudes of Judaism the religion to pop and rock music, or really anything about the history of Jewish (pop/rock) music. It is also quite selective- it only includes ethnically Jewish artists (and here it explicitly excludes Israeli Jewish artists, despite claiming to include ethnically Jewish artists) and excludes people who have converted to Judaism and *should* be considered Jewish. The artists there are also predominantly Jews from the USA or Britain, with only a few from other places (for example, Serge and Charlotte Gainsbourg). I also don't understand the point of including pop and rock music together- Judaism and pop music, or Judaism and rock music could have worked, but why together? Ultimately, my argument is that this article is unhelpful to readers and is an example of WP:ARBITRARYCAT, part of WP:DEL#REASON. I think perhaps making a list article about "List of Jewish pop artists" or "List of Jewish rock artists" can be helpful, but I don't see any such precedent (no article called "List of American rock arists" or "List of French pop artists" exists). Jaguarnik ( talk) 03:38, 3 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. This article purports to be about "Judaism" and pop and rock music, yet most of it is devoted to a list of "pop, rock and hip-hop artists, singers and musicians of Jewish ethnicity", including many people who do not necessarily follow the religion of Judaism, yet with "people who converted to Judaism" specifically being excluded from the list. The actual influence of Judaism, the religion, as opposed to individuals of Jewish ethnicity, on rock and pop music, is hardly addressed within this article. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:00, 4 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Precedent does exist, in the form of List of Christian bands and artists by genre and its sub-lists, but there is a genre known as Christian rock (and maybe others - I'm no expert and haven't checked the sources). But that is no reason to keep this article. Sources would be needed to show that the music created by the artists was influenced by Judaism, rather than that they happen to be Jewish. Phil Bridger ( talk) 09:40, 4 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    • Apparently there is such a thing as Jewish rock but it's in much the same vein as Christian rock; i.e. it's rock influenced by religious values. But the artists listed in Judaism and pop and rock music article are simply artists who happen to be ethnically Jewish with no mention on how Judaism influenced them. What I meant by precedent is that there are no lists as far as I know listing pop/rock artists by ethnicity; my apologies for not being clear. Jaguarnik ( talk) 18:06, 4 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Lean Keep. I think the topic meets notability criteria. I would probably rename to List of Jewish Pop and Rock Musicians or something like that, as this is more of a list with a brief introductory paragraph as opposed to an article per se. I think Judaism in the title is misleading as this is an article about Jewishness qua ethnos, not Judaism qua religion. 2600:4040:90C5:8000:B11F:818B:48F1:A0FD ( talk) 01:10, 5 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    • Not a bad idea, however, I'm not sure that a list of specifically Jewish pop and rock musicians is necessary in the first place, as it's extremely specific. What is the purpose in combining two seperate genres of music? Jaguarnik ( talk) 01:49, 5 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 03:37, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Guru Nanak Mission High School

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A non notable school that fails notability for organisations/schools/ It also lacks significant coverage in reliable sources.

All the coverage I could find was from database entries for schools/education, or passing coverage where the sources were covering the school's founder. But these sources are not reliable either. —usernamekiran (talk) 03:37, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

There are sources and the school has been in publications because it is a charity school, but these sources are not on the internet. It was recently written about in a newspaper called Patrika, which highlighted the fact that this school was set up for the poor and the needy.
In terms of the school not be notable, what constitutes a notable school? There are many listings for schools on Wikipedia that are standard private schools that are set up for profit. The Guru Nanak Mission High School was set up purely by a group of people with the objective of bringing education to those that would otherwise be denied it.
Furthermore, this is a Sikh school, and I am concerned that it has been earmarked for deletion for that reason. TheBiographersScribe ( talk) 22:16, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
It is admittedly a new article on Wikipedia, which is why there are no notable students or much history. This detail still needs to be added. Some of the details are missing because the school is currently in the process of preparing its new website, which will enable reliable links to be created. TheBiographersScribe ( talk) 22:20, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
As an example, why is /info/en/?search=Campion_School,_Mumbai allowed. It is a non-notable private school with fewer students. The Guru Nanak Mission HIgh school had 2000 students in the year before Covid. TheBiographersScribe ( talk) 22:22, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
The Guru Nanak Mission High School is managed by the Punjabi Sabha that provides charitable doctors, dentists, a sikh temple, and a school. All of which are funded by a charity that has outreach projects. It excels academically and in sports. TheBiographersScribe ( talk) 22:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
/info/en/?search=Podar_International_School is another example of a private school that is not notable, but given that it is fee-paying, there are numerous sources on the internet about it. The Guru Nanak Mission High school provides an education for children that would otherwise not be able to afford an education - sadly that means that there are not many links available on the internet.
Perhaps it would be an idea for someone in Mumbai that is associated with Wikipedia to visit the school and see what they have achieved, their background and their purpose. TheBiographersScribe ( talk) 22:27, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
Another example of a private school that is also not notable - /info/en/?search=Queen_Mary_School,_Mumbai. Is it fair that these articles remain given that they have been up for longer and had more time to find links and to add information to the page? The Guru Nanak Mission High School has been selected for deletion after virtually no time. TheBiographersScribe ( talk) 22:30, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
Guruvani: Teachers can transform lives - Hindustan Times is an article written in the Hindustan Times that has the principal of the GNMHS, Rajani Bhatti. TheBiographersScribe ( talk) 22:45, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
[30] https://www.hindustantimes.com/teachers-day-gratitude-pours-in-for-teachers-mentors/story-sTyOdp7BqK1XonuVAFispO.html TheBiographersScribe ( talk) 23:05, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. ✗ plicit 03:09, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Michael Rocco

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fails WP:GNG Joeykai ( talk) 02:22, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 03:01, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Barcelona's Multiverse

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Self-promotion of the author's photography book (who created the article himself). Furthermore, minimal independent coverage, none of which is significant. Sgubaldo ( talk) 02:17, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 03:08, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Clark Davis (wrestler)

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Wrestler who doesn't meet GNG and NSPORT Avilich ( talk) 02:01, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep per WP:SNOW. (non-admin closure) Frank Anchor 16:15, 14 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Ministry of Sports and Youth (Qatar)

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Promotional article. If anyone is keen to overhaul it, draftifying could be an appropriate alternative to deletion. MrsSnoozyTurtle 01:56, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

I doubt you’ll find many (any?) examples of government ministries being deleted at AfD, so perhaps it’s more of a consensus/common outcome rather than a firm policy. Mccapra ( talk) 22:24, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
Thank you for the explanation. However, it doesn't seem to be covered in WP:OUTCOMES? MrsSnoozyTurtle 04:01, 11 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 03:02, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

2014–15 Gibraltar Second Division

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Lacks independent and significant coverage, not notable Avilich ( talk) 01:51, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Władysław Leon Sapieha. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 01:43, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Elżbieta Konstancja Potulicka

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Borderline A7 and PROD eligible, but royalty et al are complex so bringing here for discussion. While I don't read Polish, I can't find anything relevant on her to even assert notability. No article in PL Wiki for assistance either. Star Mississippi 02:54, 8 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Delete I found some brief mention of her mortgage arrangements in the book Przegla̜d polski. (1904). Poland: W Księgarni spółki wydawniczej polskiej (by searching for her birth name in google books). But not significant coverage despite searching widely. CT55555( talk) 02:30, 9 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 00:53, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

2021 FIBA U16 Women's African Championship squads

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Declined prod. A list full of non notable players failing WP:NLIST and not covered in independent sources. LibStar ( talk) 01:01, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

1. This article is not a 'Stand-alone' list, but a list of players with their information such as height, weight, date of birth, club, jersey number, etc. 2. Please see this section Wikipedia:Notability#Notability guidelines do not usually apply to content within articles or lists
The players as an individual contained in this article may not be notable, but the groups containing these players are notable.
3. Merging into the main article may be an alternative. Regpath ( talk) 04:12, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

also fails WP:GNG, where is the coverage of these squads in third party sources? LibStar ( talk) 04:50, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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  • Strongest possible delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:LISTPEOPLE. The latter accepts that articles can be created if those included meet Wikipedia notability standards, which is not the case here. Also, non-notable people can be included if their inclusion is supported by reliable sources - WP:RS states Articles should be based on reliable, independent, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy., which is not the case here. FIBA organises the event so clearly is not an independent source. Article is essentially a mirror of content from FIBA so WP:NOTMIRROR applies. Since this article holds sensitive details for people not in the public eye (not to mention they are all minors too), I strongly request deletion per WP:NPF; exercise restraint and include only material relevant to the person's notability, focusing on high-quality secondary sources and also WP:DOB; With identity theft a serious ongoing concern, many people regard their full names and dates of birth as private. Wikipedia includes full names and dates of birth that have been widely published by reliable sources, or by sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object to the details being made public. Please, please consider these points and delete this article from Wikipedia. Thank you. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:00, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete for child protection and data privacy reasons, as U16 = children, and Wikipedia should not be re-publishing lists of non-notable children without any reliable secondary sources whatsoever conferring notability. Agree with comments made by Spiderone, and no, we should not be merging these lists into another article. Cielquiparle ( talk) 10:51, 13 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was WP:SNOW delete. BD2412 T 22:49, 16 December 2022 (UTC) reply

The Manufacturing of Greta Thunberg (book)

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Non-notable self-published hit job, horrible sourcing and total WP:FRINGE violation Orange Mike | Talk 00:58, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Thank you very much for critical view and listing the problems with the article. You are welcome to help and to sort (out) the sources, so I can take something for the future. Geysirhead ( talk) 07:06, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 00:26, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Gabriel Tan

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Does not meet WP:GNG or Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cycling/Notability KeepItGoingForward ( talk) 00:46, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 00:26, 17 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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Does not appear to meet WP:GNG. The only reference on the article is a permanent dead link. Googling...there's not much to be found, however. Sarrail (talk) 00:38, 10 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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