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DYK for Harry Brand

Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 00:01, 6 November 2015 (UTC) reply

Thx4thx

Thank you Julie, do tell everyone you meet how good it is to see your articles get magically better. That's the way that DYK is meant to work. Sometimes you just get someone who wants to just explain how important they are, but most of the time its just nice people working well together. Sometimes you even get someone who shows you a whole new aspect to your article (say that Brand was a Russian spy) and that great. We give out a medal when you have done 25. Do ooze at the "did you know" project as it would be good for them to remember what the project is about. Although we don't very often get a newbie as experienced at wiki stuff as you are. Do return to my talk page if you get hassle or you want to help with fixing the low number of women bios on Wiki. You will also get a buzz when you see how many people have read your article .... tomorrow. Cheers Victuallers ( talk) 20:58, 6 November 2015 (UTC) reply

Victuallers! Thanks for the encouragement (or thanks for the thanks for the thanks). I love the idea of Harry Brand, Spy. (I wouldn't be all that surprised.) I will definitely ooze at DYK! And since I am part of AfC, I see a ton of new articles, and as such can maybe come up with 25 hooks. New motivation!
AND! 2000+ views on Harry Brand. That is amazing! Julie JSFarman ( talk) 13:25, 7 November 2015 (UTC) reply

RfA

Thanks for supporting my run for administrator. I am honored and grateful. ) Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:11, 24 July 2017 (UTC) reply
Julie, I consider you a friend even though we have only spent about 20 minutes talking face to face in San Diego last year. But we have some fun bullshitting about dogs and music on Facebook, don't we? Any time you need my help, just ask, and I will do my best. Thank you. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:11, 24 July 2017 (UTC) reply
Cullen328 I am so delighted by the overwhelming response to your RfA! It renews my faith in Wikipedia. And I know you'll be a spectacular administrator.
It seems like we met before San Diego, but maybe that was via dogs and music on Facebook...it's good to know you both for real, online, and on WP. Thank you so much for the message and your friendship, and I will definitely be availing myself of your offer to help! Nothing has changed there.  :) JSFarman ( talk) 02:22, 25 July 2017 (UTC) reply

P.G. Morgan - comments

Hi JSFarman - thanks for your help on my article P.G. Morgan. I have a few follow up questions I'm hoping you can help me with to get this article up and running - would removing the early life section all together help speed the process up? Additionally - how would you recommend dealing with the extra citations? As the draft suggests, I've had many different suggestions on how many citations to use/how to cite things. Would you use one primary citation on the actual sentence/statement, and list the rest of them as references in an additional section? Any insight you can provide here would be most helpful. Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmh02010 ( talkcontribs) 21:15, 4 August 2017 (UTC) reply

Hi Cmh02010 ( talk). Sorry for the delay. I just went through the references, and they don't support the assertions of the article. The first goes to the landing page for ISIS, nothing about P.G Morgan. The second ref isn't independent. The third, for the BAFTA awards, doesn't mention his name, and a search on the site for P.G. Morgan, Peter Morgan, and Peter Gwynne Morgan returns no results. #4 isn't independent (and doesn't support the info it follows). The BBC cite would be good if the program was a) transcribed and b)available. First Cut 2 links to a preface, and when I searched the book it appeared that the Peter Morgan referred to is the *other* Peter Morgan. I don't really have time to go through the other references.
To verify his credits, you only need one reference via an independent reliable source. His own website is not valid.
I searched Oxford, Fringe Festival, and other details under each possible name and didn't come up with anything. Your best bet would be to write and submit a stub.If you add all of his credits, you'll end up with a resume, essentially, and that's not what Wikipedia is about. Thanks, Julie JSFarman ( talk) 05:51, 7 August 2017 (UTC) reply

A page you started (Evelyn McDonnell) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating Evelyn McDonnell, JSFarman!

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Cullen328 Let's discuss it 22:53, 11 August 2017 (UTC) reply

Autopatrolled user right

Hi JSFarman, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:38, 12 August 2017 (UTC) reply

Cullen328All of the time that I used to spend cursing the backlog will now be devoted to singing your praises. Thank you! JSFarman ( talk) 02:48, 12 August 2017 (UTC) reply
Your simple thanks is sufficient, since the work you have done creating well referenced and well written articles shows that you deserve this. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:15, 12 August 2017 (UTC) reply

LA event this Thursday

LA Meetup: September 7 edit-a-thon near DTLA

Dear fellow Wikipedian,

You have been invited to a meetup and edit-a-thon at the LA84 Foundation in Jefferson Park (near DTLA) on Thursday, September 7, 2017 from 5:45 p.m. to 9:00 p.m.! This event aims to improve coverage of female Olympians and Paralympians (some of whom will be attending!). There will be a deejay and food/drinks, and kids are welcome.

I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 ( talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 14:10, 2 September 2017 (UTC) reply

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Bughouse (Band, Australia)

Dear JS Farman, many thanks for your look at the article and also your super helpful comments! I have done as you suggested, including removing some of the language that I couldn't find references for, and have also included a number of new references where I could find them. The article is now a little shorter, and I hope more to the point. One issue that Ive had is with references from newspaper archives where you can only obtain access if you have a paid subscription. There are a couple of these references in the article, and I have downloaded the pdfs, but can't upload them to wikicommons. The upside of having made copies is Ive been able to be more precise about the dates of these articles, page numbers etc. The article URL is here: /info/en/?search=Draft:Bughouse_(Australian_band)#cite_note-24 Many thanks again for your help, and all or any new suggestions gratefully received. Stavros41 ( talk) 16:04, 7 September 2017 (UTC) reply

Dear JSFarman. Thank you so much for helping to improve the article and for posting it! Thrilled to have first article up!!. Stavros41 ( talk) 14:29, 8 September 2017 (UTC) reply

File:All Music Homepage circa 1999.jpg listed for discussion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:All Music Homepage circa 1999.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Jon Kolbert ( talk) 15:31, 8 September 2017 (UTC) reply

I left a comment on the discussion page, Jon Kolbert, but I agree - it's not the right image for the article. JSFarman ( talk) 16:42, 8 September 2017 (UTC) reply

14:06:22, 12 September 2017 review of submission by Insulatedpolar


Hi JSFarman,

Thank you for reviewing my article, I believe I have made the adjustments you requested. Please let me know if any further tone changes make sense, or if you have any other recommendations.

Insulatedpolar ( talk) 14:06, 12 September 2017 (UTC) reply

Jeremy McCoy (double bass) title change

Hi Julie, I am the subject of a page you reviewed and moved from draft form earlier today. The title is "Jeremy McCoy (double bass)". Thanks for accepting the article! I see a problem that should probably be corrected right away. After reading up a bit, I think it means making a move not an edit. The article should really be named "Jeremy McCoy (double bassist)". That's grammatically better and it will also match a disambiguation note on an article titled "Jeremy McCoy". The note there lists "Jeremy McCoy (double bassist)" so it isn't linking. The other Jeremy McCoy isn't just a musician, like me, he's also a bass player!!(bass guitar, as opposed to double bass, but pretty darn close). You can imagine the online morphing and confusion - especially with google's acquisition of youtube. Having two defined articles on wikipedia should help. I hope you can make this change without much trouble and send the article out into the wiki-sphere with this better title. Thank you very much for your time and expertise! JM 24.46.150.16 ( talk) 02:11, 14 September 2017 (UTC) reply

Hi Jeremy. That's wild! I've moved the page to Jeremy McCoy (double bassist). All the best, Julie

Jeremy McCoy (double bassist)

Thanks Julie! The disambiguation link from the "Jeremy McCoy" article works but shows in red and "not created". I deleted cookies and still red. Maybe it will self correct? Jeremy 24.46.150.16 ( talk) 00:19, 15 September 2017 (UTC) reply

Never mind

Yep - self corrected. It's blue now. Cheers, J 24.46.150.16 ( talk) 00:24, 15 September 2017 (UTC) reply

Follow up question

Hi Julie, When an article is renamed, do internal links (like categories) auto-correct? Is there a way to trigger that? Also, that disambiguation link is back to red. Curious why it would correct and then revert. Thanks, JM 24.46.150.16 ( talk) 03:15, 15 September 2017 (UTC) reply

I'm sorry, I'm not following you. Nothing changes when an article is moved other than the title. The DAB is showing up blue for me...?

U.S. women in the Olympics and Paralympics edit-a-thon at LA84

U.S. women in the Olympics and Paralympics barnstar
I wanted to say thank you for handling the logistics for the U.S. women in the Olympics and Paralympics edit-a-thon at the LA84 Foundation. It turned out wonderful! Rosiestep ( talk) 15:51, 19 September 2017 (UTC) reply

Thank you, Rosie! You accomplished so much with this edit-a-thon. I wish I could have been there. Thank you for doing this, and for all of the inspiration and motivation to get WP LA fired up. xx! JSFarman ( talk) 23:02, 20 September 2017 (UTC) reply

22:05:59, 4 October 2017 review of submission by Rpsavory

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Thank you for improvement this article. Thank you! Ngochue456 ( talk) 02:21, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply

Thank you for thanking me - it's great to cross paths with someone so considerate -- but I don't think it was me. (I can't find any edits to the article in my history.) JSFarman ( talk) 02:30, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply

The Daily Telegraph is not a good source!

Hi, Thanks for leaving me a message. La Crosse Tribune is a broadsheet newspaper, therefore they are a highly reliable source and never make a very stupid mistake. While The Daily Telegraph sometimes making a very silly mistake. Please read this ( http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/9450131/Singer-Adele-babysits-for-a-strangers-child-at-high-street-cafe.html) Adele's 21 albums sold 220 million?. That's look silly. Thanks Politsi ( talk) 12:39, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply

Hi Politsi and thanks for your reply. I'm with you on the inflated Adele number. However, the Telegraph (also a broadsheet) is a newspaper of record.
In terms of the La Crosse Tribune, the term "broadsheet" is used to describe its size. It doesn't confer reliability; it's not relevant. La Cross is a small town, and tabloid dailies are published in large markets with multiple dailies. It's the differentiator; tabloids are sensational by design. Consider the New York Times (broadsheet) vs. The New York Post, (tabloid) or the Sydney Morning News (broadsheet) vs. the Sydney Daily Telegraph or London's Times, Telegraph and Guardian (broadsheets) vs. The Sun, The Mirror or The Daily Mail (tabloids).
Also: Reliability is based on authority, expertise, and the presumption of fact checking. The journalist for the La Crosse paper is not a specialist -- he writes about entertainment and county government - he may not even be a professional journalist. Further, small town newspapers very rarely employ fact checkers. They can barely afford writers.
I rewrote the Neil Diamond lede without using a number for total sales. We need to find a better source for this article. And for the best selling artists chart, although it must be noted that there are no official or reliable sources for worldwide sales. Zero. None. JSFarman ( talk) 17:01, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Politsi, I just moved Neil Diamond back to 130 on the best selling albums chart, and will reintroduce the number to the article on him as well. He's about to receive a Lifetime Grammy Award, and there are ample sources, including NARAS, who I suspect may be more reliable than the LaCrosse Tribune. (Here's the 130 million stat via grammy.com JSFarman ( talk) 01:10, 16 January 2018 (UTC) reply

Text box response

Hi JSFarman,

You responded to my query about creating a text box (or whatever the box in the top right of wikipedia articles is called) a while back and I meant to respond and say thanks but it completely slipped me by. In any case, thank you for creating one in the "Laura Briggs" page that I created. And thanks for the encouragement about creating feminist-related articles! In a world that, in my very limited experience, can feel somewhat devoid of true human interaction--that is, the complicated world of wikipedia--I truly appreciated that support!

-Faune — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faunevita ( talkcontribs) 17:11, 20 December 2017 (UTC) reply

Hi Faune. It was my pleasure. Truly! Thanks for writing the article. Julie JSFarman ( talk) 20:36, 20 December 2017 (UTC) reply

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2018!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2018!

Hello JSFarman, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2018.
Happy editing,
Chris Troutman ( talk) 00:27, 28 December 2017 (UTC) reply

Spread the love by adding {{ subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Merger discussion for Anna Jones (businessperson)

An article that you have been involved in editing— Anna Jones (businessperson)—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 15:02, 11 January 2018 (UTC) reply

Draft:KalSpelletich

Hello JSFarman, your note and tips are greatly appreciated on the Draft:KalSpelletich entry [1]! It's great to hear you are a fan of his work too. I am back to editing the entry, after a hiatus for the holidays. When you have time can you help with the images on this page? Again thanks for your time. Marylee1234 ( talk) 04:33, 13 January 2018 (UTC) reply

References

Hi Marylee1234. I found it so odd that there wasn't already an article. I'm a fan of his work, but I know of him because we ran in a lot of the same punk rock/art/SF circles at around the same time. (I think we probably still do.)
The article was much better after your edit. I did some more work on it but I have to knock it off for a while. If you go back to the draft, the career section needs to be completed. You can also add a section on his works, major exhibitions etc. (I removed it from the AfC queue; I will publish it through AfC when we have it ready to go.)
Do you have a conflict of interest? If so, you should declare it on the talk page of the article. If you are being paid for the entry -- or if you happen to work for the gallery -- you need to disclose your status on your user page and on the article talk page. I can give you guidance on the process as necessary.
I will ecstatically help with the images, but you need to have releases to use them on WP, unless they are photographs that you yourself took (and as such own the copyright). The details are here.
Thanks for your contribution! So glad that there will be an article on him. And, if you're interested in WP and art, you should get involved with Art and Feminism - there's a huge event in SF on the horizon. JSFarman ( talk) 21:12, 13 January 2018 (UTC) reply

Hey JSFarman - Your edits getting the photos up are super helpful. Thank you! And thanks for adding more background too! It's rad that you are a positive force on WP! WP seems to take a lot of time to figure out and there's a tidal wave of negativity on here.

To clear up the COI question I'll post this on the article talk page: "I'm not getting paid for this edit work. I don't work for a gallery or any arts organization. I am writing this because I'm a good friend of Kal Spelletich, a fan of his work and it seems like he needs a page." Marylee1234 ( talk) 00:45, 22 January 2018 (UTC) reply

Marylee1234, very cool. You do have a conflict of interest, though, since you and Kal are friends. Definitely note it on the talk page of the draft, and when you're happy with the draft, note your conflict in your final edit summary. Then if you ping me I'll resubmit it on your behalf, and review it (and edit as necessary). (You are a good friend! I admire your perseverance.)
I messaged Kal throught Facebook - we have mutual friends -- and he sent me the photos, which I uploaded. I sent him the release to use them -- can you make sure he returns the releases to permissions-en@wikipedia.org?
And I hope you'll stick around and contribute. The community isn't really hostile. I think you just got off on the wrong foot. Thanks! JSFarman ( talk) 01:28, 22 January 2018 (UTC) reply


Wikipedia Day LA 2018

I see you seem to be in charge of the Wikipedia Day LA 2018 event. I have not declared anything on the page because I don't know if I can make it. If I do make it, or if I can make it on something like Skype, I would like to give a short talk.

Trackinfo ( talk) 06:03, 27 January 2018 (UTC) reply

Trackinfo, so very excellent to meet you. (I just read your user page, I'm completely psyched.)
It would be fantastic to have you at Wikipedia Day. I hope you can be there in person, but if not we can Skype.
Do you want to do a flash talk or do you want it to be more formal? The schedule is just coming together but it would probably work best early afternoon.
Thank you so much for the message. Made my day. Month. Year...Julie JSFarman ( talk) 08:46, 27 January 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Trackinfo, We have had to postpone Wikipedia Day LA due to a scheduling conflict with the hotel. We're trying to resked for March. If you're up for it (and comfortable with providing an email address) I can include you on a Doodle poll we're using to determine everyone's availability. You can message me through the email here (or via Facebook) if you're so inclined. Apologies for any inconvenience and hoping you can still participate. Thanks, Julie JSFarman ( talk) 19:27, 31 January 2018 (UTC) reply
I don't have much of a social media presence. Email is just info @ my name .org but you can notify me when you get a date and place. I'm not in L.A., so I have to drive in. It will just depend on what I have scheduled when you do it. You are in media so you know you can get a phone call at any time that will ruin your plans. Downtown is not a wonderful place to go, or park or . . . I know. I shot a show for a couple of months just up the street from the proposed hotel. Trackinfo ( talk) 19:51, 31 January 2018 (UTC) reply
Totally get it (although I've developed a fondness for downtown despite the miserable experiences I've had shooting there). I will email you when we have a date (and hope that you don't get a call day of). JSFarman ( talk) 20:04, 31 January 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Trackinfo - Just saw your note on the meetup page - SO STOKED. If you're leaving at 11:00 we can schedule you for 10:50???? Does that work? (There's an introduction at 10, and then a speaker at 10:15-10:45 - we would have you right after him?!?) Let me know! JSFarman ( talk) 22:11, 15 March 2018 (UTC) reply
Then I may have to skip it. I have to be @ UCLA @ 11, not leave. Maybe I can swing by maybe before 4 p.m. but I'll guess that will be useless because most everyone will have gone home or lost their energy by then. Or could I do a flash at the beginning? Trackinfo ( talk) 04:51, 16 March 2018 (UTC) reply
Your choice - I would truly love you to talk @ Trackinfo - we can either put you right at the top (after the intro and before the keynote, although we'll have to figure out how to transition) - but it would be better if you can make it at 3:30 or 3:45, people won't be burnt yet, it will be just before cake! JSFarman ( talk) 20:43, 16 March 2018 (UTC) reply
Why don't you put me at the front. That way, it can be an underlying topic in the other discussions through the day (as it is a background issue in all things wikipedia). I'll make an effort to return for the later time. Maybe there will be questions to ask by then. Trackinfo ( talk) 22:27, 16 March 2018 (UTC) reply
Trackinfo ( talk), Excellent. About 10:10. I'll email you my # (or email me if you don't have the editor email enabled) - will you text me if you're running late? Otherwise find when you arrive. I will be the person crying in the corner. JSFarman ( talk) 01:42, 17 March 2018 (UTC) reply
info @ my user name .org Trackinfo ( talk) 04:11, 17 March 2018 (UTC) reply
Hey Julie, I've got a set of space banners for the west coast and would be happy to FedEx them down to you for Wikipedia Day vs. having them sit at my house where they are getting bored. If that interests you, let me know and we can sort out shipping address (your home? the venue?) via email. Sorry I can't make it to the event this year because of busy calendar. But I will be back in LA in May; will let you know when dates are finalized so that maybe we can grab coffee or something. -- Rosiestep ( talk) 08:28, 18 February 2018 (UTC) reply
ROSIE! I wish you could be here. It will not be the same without you. And yes - it would be great to get the banners! Thanks for offering (and for thinking about it). It would probably be best to send them to the hotel -- info to come. And, yes, May, but I think you should come back much sooner! JSFarman ( talk) 00:30, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Help with NBC News?

Hi,

I have started a discussion about what I consider to be an incomplete and misleading paragraph in the NBC News article about the Harvey Weinstein investigation: Talk:NBC_News#Correct_misleading_paragraph

I'm an experienced Wikipedia editor but as a paid consultant to NBC News, I am seeking an independent review of my proposed changes, as per WP: COI.

If you happen to have the time/interest to help out, I'd very much appreciate it.

Hi, BC1278, I just left a message on the talk page but I agree with you - I have to run out but I will work on it this afternoon. JSFarman ( talk) 00:11, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Thanks! BC1278 ( talk) 21:26, 14 February 2018 (UTC)BC1278 reply

More with NBC News

Hi,

Thanks for agreeing to take a look the Weinstein issue at NBC News. If you happen to have time, there is also current discussion of how to handle Matt Lauer firing on the NBC News page: Talk:NBC_News#Expanded_info_on_Matt_Lauer and importantly, on the article about the president of NBC News, Noah Oppenheim, where I think it's been mishandled as unbalanced criticism instead of a neutral statement. Talk:Noah_Oppenheim#Lauer_content

Your independent opinion would be greatly valued.

Thanks so much for any help you can offer. BC1278 ( talk) 21:23, 15 February 2018 (UTC)BC1278 reply

Women in Red

Hi there, Julie. I'm glad to see you are now an "official" member of WiR. I see you have a good track record, including several women's biographies. I enjoyed reading this. Don't hesitate to let us know if you run into any problems or need assistance. Happy editing!-- Ipigott ( talk) 10:56, 17 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Hello, Ipigott, and thank you. I'm honored to be official! I have so many articles in my sandbox that I haven't finished -- I'm sorry to say that in a lot of cases it's because I've found out after I've started that the subject of the article won't meet notability. (I want to write articles about the very few women on the Billboard Power 100 list, a handful of casting agents, publicists, writers and journalists.)
I hadn't read that Judith Newman article in a long time - I forgot how funny it is. (Did you read the article about being rejected?!?)
Thank you for the welcome -- I'm looking to being more (officially) active in the project! JSFarman ( talk) 01:39, 18 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Women's History Month 2018 at Women in Red

Welcome to Women in Red's March 2018 worldwide online editathons.


Historically, our March event has been one of the biggest offerings of the year. This year, we are collaborating with two other wiki communities. Our article campaign is the official on-line/virtual node for Art+Feminism. Our image campaign supports the Whose Knowledge? initiative. Women's History Month 2018

Continuing: #1day1woman Global Initiative

(To subscribe: Women in Red/English language mailing list and Women in Red/international list. Unsubscribe: Women in Red/Opt-out list) -- Rosiestep ( talk) 16:09, 20 February 2018 (UTC) via MassMessaging reply

Wikipedia Day LA, March 31

Wikipedia Day LA 2018

Please join us from 10:00 am - 5:00 pm on Saturday, March 31st for Wikipedia Day LA 2018 at the Ace Hotel in downtown Los Angeles. There will be speakers, panel discussions, a presentation on Wikidata, flash sessions, and a discussion about the formation of an LA User Group. There could be dramatic readings of LA-related talk pages, and there will be truly excellent cake. Please RSVP on the event page if you're thinking of joining us.

We hope to see you there! JSFarman ( talk) via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 03:19, 9 March 2018 (UTC) reply

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14:29:13, 12 March 2018 review of submission by Kjburch1988


Kjburch1988 ( talk) 14:29, 12 March 2018 (UTC) Hi, regarding your comments, I am unsure how reviews in magazines such as The Florentine and Resurgence & Ecologist are unreliable or trivial. I will certainly remove the interviews and links to Godstow Press, but you also asked for reviews of her books from national and regional publications, which I have provided via both those publications. Her books have also been reviewed by the Historical Novel Society, which I can include as well. reply

Hi, Kjburch1988, according to the draft you submitted, she has written for the Resurgence & Ecologist. That means it's not an independent source. As for The Florentine, it's a monthly with a circulation of 10,000 that sells editorial services, and to me, it doesn't impact notability. Other reviewers might feel differently.
And yes, please include the Historical Novel Society reviews. The interviews are a helpful resource for readers - I would leave them in - it's just that they don't go towards notability. Just so you know, my goal is to accept articles, not reject them, particularly when the subject is about a woman. JSFarman ( talk) 16:33, 12 March 2018 (UTC) reply

Steve Blackman

Hello, Regarding this article that you just reviewed. Here is another article for further recent coverage. Here Blackman's creation of THE ASSOCIATES is cited in the book "Law and Justice on the Small Screen." This interview cites him as one of the writers on FARGO. This interview cites him for as a writer on BONES. Are these sufficient? This is my first attempt at creating article, so any guidance is very appreciated.

791six ( talk) 06:04, 27 March 2018 (UTC)791six reply

Hi 791six ( talk), He is obviously very accomplished (and based on his credits I'm a huge fan), but to establish notability you need extensive coverage that's specifically about Steve Blackman from multiple sources. The Globe and Mail ref is great because it provides in-depth editorial on his background. The other references serve to verify that he has all these credits, but he's mentioned tangentially. To meet the inclusion criteria you need articles that are similar in length and focus to the Globe and Mail. Maybe when the Netflix show debuts there will be more written about him? (You did a great job writing the article - the tone is neutral, it's factual, and the formatting is perfect. Huge points for that. Stick around!) Julie JSFarman ( talk) 06:45, 27 March 2018 (UTC) reply


Thanks very much, JS! This is all very helpful info as I figure out how to navigate page creation, and I really appreciate the detailed response in regards to how to move forward with this article. For the time being, I would like to make one more appeal if that's alright. I think there would be considerable value in publishing this page at present rather than waiting for further coverage, due to confusion with a prominent wrestler of the same name. The name of the Steve Blackman whose page I hope to publish already appears on multiple pages across Wikipedia, including The Umbrella Academy, Legion, Private Practice, and The Associates, due to his significant contributions to those series. The inevitable result is that anyone perusing those pages who wishes to research more about him as a creator will see that his name isn't linked, search for it manually, and then find themselves routed to the page for the wrestler, leading to confusion and misinformation. I'll also link two additional articles ([ [1]], [ [2]]) in the hopes that at a certain point, sheer breadth of sources might suffice. Regardless of your determination, thank you again for your help! 791six ( talk) 07:44, 27 March 2018 (UTC)791six reply

Hello again, 791six, and apologies on the delay. First! This isn't my determination - I'm just following Wikipedia's guidelines.
I agree that it would be helpful to have a page about this Steve Blackman. But in order to meet the inclusion criteria, the subject of every article must, um, meet the inclusion criteria. That means extensive coverage specifically about him via reliable independent sources. If there are two more articles in addition to the Globe and Mail, or if any of this applies, you'll be good to go. Thanks for the kind note (and for your effort). JSFarman ( talk) 00:49, 29 March 2018 (UTC) reply


Thanks for getting back to me, JSFarman! Totally understood with regards to guidelines. I thought perhaps there might be an inclusion criterion for situations where subjects could be confused, but I fully respect that you are following objective standards. Per your directive, I've found two more articles that I think should meet those standards. The first is from the National Post, and it is very comparable to the Globe and Mail write-up. The second is from Variety, and unlike other articles I previously cited, this one is solely about Blackman's work on a project, rather than only mentioning him tangentially. Finally, I do think that Blackman satisfies the third criterion for Creative Professionals on the page you linked: "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series)..." Because that's the very definition of a TV showrunner, and Blackman has been the showrunner on several major shows (which can be verified in some of the sources I originally linked). I hope this all satisfies the requirements. Thanks so much for your patience, Julie! Much appreciated. 791six ( talk) 06:09, 29 March 2018 (UTC) reply

791six ( talk), Emmy nomination = notability (as far as I interpret the criteria, anyway). I did an edit on the article, submitted it on your behalf, and accepted it. I added a reference (or maybe two), but Deadline isn't a great source (not exactly known for reliability) and imdb is definitely not independent. You should replace those cites (and maybe expand the article - it looks like there's more bio info available - right now it's kind of resume-ish.) Thanks for your contribution! Julie JSFarman ( talk) 01:00, 2 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Wonderful! Thank you again JSFarman, I appreciate the extra time you took with those revisions. I'll continue updating the page per your instructions. I'm looking forward to making further contributions on wikipedia thanks to your guidance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 791six ( talkcontribs) 04:31, 2 April 2018 (UTC) reply

My pleasure. And thank you! JSFarman ( talk) 17:00, 2 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Hi Julie I've updated the draft 'Hyperplay RPG' page to show improved "Notability" since you declined it a year ago, and I've included loads more references too, as requested.

Hopefully this gets us over the line!

All the best

Kincl PS Thanks for saying it's "very cool"! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kincl4 ( talkcontribs) 09:39, 27 March 2018 (UTC) reply

Hi again Kincl! Glad to see that you're working on the article. It is very cool!
It looks like the referencing is more solid, but I don't know enough about the specifics to know what is niche and what isn't. I think another reviewer with expertise in this area would be better suited to review the article. Sorry! I wish I could be of more help. All the best to you too, and thank you. Julie JSFarman ( talk) 00:58, 29 March 2018 (UTC) reply

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RCA

Hi Julie. How do you propose we deal with this? There are just far too many of (almost) the same photos. Perhaps a discussion on the article talk page? Rob van vee 10:43, 9 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Hello Rob van vee! Sorry about the delay. I was avoiding WP because of this issue - it makes me disproportionately crazy when people revert changes without giving any thought to other editor's perspectives. In this case, it's particularly frustrating since it's an anonymous (ahem) editor. I suspect that he/she/they won't pay attention to consensus, but yes, maybe we should try the talk page? JSFarman ( talk) 18:52, 11 April 2018 (UTC) reply
I agree, this will most likely be a very frustrating exercise but I hate letting people like this go against community consensus with what appears to be a case of own. My first thought was to just wait and revert after the IP had lost interest but it would appear as if the they have some vested interest. I am not completely familiar with the protocal, is it a RFC? Rob van vee 07:06, 12 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Hi Julie, I've realised I just don't have the energy for this right now as I actually have too much going on. I'll wait a while and revert when I feel the IP has lost interest and if that doesn't work I'll rethink my plan of action. Rob van vee 15:01, 16 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Hi, good morning, Rob van, Sorry for not responding to your last message. I feel the same way. When I attempt to address this kind of idiocy, I end up frustrated and edgy. I think we will both have to keep an eye on the article and revert the edits, which are obviously made my a user who logged out to continue adding the redundant images. We can ask that the page be semi-protected, seek consensus, or at the most extreme, request a topic band for the user under their registered account name. (I don't think it qualifies as sock puppeting, but I could be wrong.)
This really does drive me nuts, but there are so many other issues that make me equally crazy. Look at the talk page for List of best-selling music artists for a truly bizarre experience, and next time you see the random information that the subject of an article "was raised in a Jewish family," look at the editor and the source used. These are just two examples! Then there are the messages I get from people who are pissed off by my reviews. See the message below (on Caracats) for a particularly passive/aggressive message..
OMG. I have to stop...even thinking about this puts me in a hideous mood. I'm glad to meet you though! We will sort out this RCA problem! Julie JSFarman ( talk) 15:49, 16 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Yeah this place can make me crazy too but it's also very rewarding! Glad to have met you too Julie, it's nice to have people you can bounce things off every now and again. Let's keep an eye on that as you say. Later. Rob van vee 16:00, 16 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Rob van, OMG I cannot take it. Every time RCA comes up on my watchlist, mostly with good edits, I look at the page, and my head explodes. It's terrible. THERE ARE 11 IMAGES and nine of them are the same! How about over the weekend you and I tag team it? The "anonymous" editor can revert and revert but you and I can abide by 3R. You in? JSFarman ( talk) 06:40, 20 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Hey Julie, you bet! I should just mention that I am attending a conference this weekend and my wiki work will be sporadic but I will check in every now and again to see where i can assist. Just ping me when you need me. What is the plan of action? Revert the changes made by the IP and we take turns potentially reverting their reverts? Rob van vee 06:49, 20 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Exactly, Rob! (Is this collusion? Are we allowed to do it? Do we care?) I'll hit it on Saturday sometime and ping you. Have a good conference! Julie JSFarman ( talk) 06:55, 20 April 2018 (UTC) (PS, don't know why your username keeps showing up shorter and shorter - not intentional!) reply
Cool! See you there. My name is Rob so that's perfect. Also, its not collusion if 2 editors enforce wp:mos imo. Rob van vee 06:59, 20 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Hey J. On second thoughts perhaps collusion is not the wisest option. I'm not familiar enough with what the rules say regarding that. Maybe a photo album at the bottom of the article or a reduction of pics generally should be proposed on the talk page first? What do you think? Rob van vee 18:34, 20 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Good morning Rob, yeah, you're probably right. I was so pissed off about this last night. I'm not familiar enough with the guidelines to know if it's ok or not to go with Plan A, but let's go with Plan B and create a gallery at the bottom of the page. First though let's revert the images. If they put the images back in, we can leave a message on their talk page (or the article talk page) offering the gallery solution....? JSFarman ( talk) 19:28, 20 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Cool let's start there. Rob van vee 19:42, 20 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Hi Julie. The deed is done! Now we wait. Let me know what you think. Rob van vee 17:14, 22 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Hi Rob! It looks great. I almost think that it won't be reverted. Almost. Thanks for doing the heavy lifting. JSFarman ( talk) 17:19, 22 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Cool! I wasn't happy to tag it but it seems there is a fair amount of unsourced info or there are additional footnotes needed. At a later stage... I'll bet you $10 (donated to Wikipedia) they revert :) Rob van vee 17:24, 22 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Edits to Peters Page

Hi JSFarman! Thank you so much for the guidance. I might still have screwed it up massively. Most of the works are massive articles in bigger books or journals. I tried to do them using the cite tool but then it duplicated them into the reference section. Not sure if that is right. I also removed a few things that I could only really find on bios that were from Peters herself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Big thoughts ( talkcontribs) 22:23, 9 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Hello! It looks good. I will go back to it later today or tomorrow and move it to the mainspace (if someone doesn't do it before I do). Thanks! JSFarman ( talk) 18:45, 11 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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THE CARACAT article

Dear JSFarman, Your comment upon my article as follows: "Given that "the caracat can mostly be found on the Russian media (main[17] and local[18] TV-channels, magazines) because the contribution to the breed development is being carried out to date only in Russia by felinologist Irina Nazarova" it will be challenging for the Caracat to meet Wikipedia's inclusion criteria. Reliable sources that cover the breed, specifically, are required. Also (while I love the way this is written, personally) the tone of the article should be more formal. If you're able to provide the references required, you'll need to give this an edit for tone." /info/en/?search=Draft:Caracat

PLease, when declining be more clear. First of all You mention the challenge according to the sources provided in the article. Please would You be so kind as to explan me are You trying to tell me the Russian media is not a reliable source? Next I just must say that if You could be more attentive to Your Reviewer's work - You would look through the history of the article and could see my explanations for the previous Reviewer: the only person who has been making the contribution to this breed for many years - is Irina Nazarova whom I mentioned in the article. she is the professional caracat breeder for more than 5 years. So there are no any other sources to take info from. She herself, her website and her interviews in Russian media - are really reliable sources. Other sources I used for article are also meeting the Wiki rules - no dispute is possible upon that I think You will agree. I would also be thankful if You could be more clear upon Your "tone" remark. So please show me the way the tone could be more formal - take any two pieces for example and rewrite them accroding to the "formal tone" so that I could understand what You are talking about. And additionaly please provide the Wiki rules link about the "tones" should be used in article. I would like to look through the rules about the formal tone. thank You in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alena Ross ( talkcontribs) 12:18, 15 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Hi Alena Ross: I'm sorry if it was unclear. I was not questioning the Russian media -- I was reacting to your statement that "information on the Caracat can mostly be found on the Russian media (main and local TV-channels, magazines) because the contribution to the breed development is being carried out to date only in Russia by felinologist Irina Nazarov." I perhaps misinterpreted it as: "Because the Caracat is bred by only one person, the breed has not been covered extensively." I've now searched Caracat, and seen coverage, however, I'm not certain that the sources would be considered reliable. (Also, based on what I read, a "Controversy" section should be added to the draft. (See "The Dark Business of Hybrid Pets" from Gizmodo, here.)
Wikipedia articles are written in the formal language of an encyclopedia. Please see this guidance. Per your request:
  • "They say it's the mass media fixed fact that the story of Caracat creation allegedly began in 1998 (“Ein Bastard von Karakal Hauskatze im Moskauer Zoo” in Der Zoologische Garten Vol. 68, No. 4 (1998)...." would be more appropriate for Wikipedia if it read: "In 1998 Der Zoolisgische Garten reported that a female cat of an unidentified breed entered the cage of a male Caracal at the Moscow Zoo..."
  • "Today felinologist I. Nazarova made the greatest and undeniable contribution to the development of the Caracat breed, since the total number of adult nowadays has at least 50 (fifty) individuals of both sexes (male and female) and generations" is not a written in the neutral style that Wikipedia requires. Further, it is sourced to Irena Nazrova's commercial website. Also, "Nowadays" is not a formal term (and Wikipedia articles are written in the past tense). If your statement is based on the percentage of Caracats that Nazarova has bread, relative to the number of documented Caracats that have been born, you could something like: "There were a total of XX adult Caracats in 2018. X% had been bred by Nazarova." (You must have a citation via an independent, reliable source.)
I have never looked at discussions between the author of a submitted article and a reviewer that has taken place on the reviewer's talk page. I look at the comments on the draft itself, the draft's talk page, and the edit summary. If you would like a reviewer to be aware of a previous discussion, please consider moving it to the draft's talk page.
I hope I've provided some clarification. Thanks for your message and for your contribution! Julie JSFarman ( talk) 20:03, 15 April 2018 (UTC) reply


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12:19:02, 17 April 2018 review of submission by JennyK2610


Hi Thank you for your comment on my draft of the article about Randi Pontoppidan. I have a couple of questions that I hope you have time to answer, so that I can create better articles in the future (this is my first one actually). You wrote in your comment that "The independent references used provide only trivial coverage of Randi Pontoppidan. They're great to verify the assertions of the article, but they don't establish notability. (Her CV, label sites, and the websites of groups she is affiliated with are not independent.)", which I understand since a lot of the sources simply mentioned Pontoppidan and don't go into a lot of detail about her music/life/etc. So I'm assuming that I should have included more sources like source 10, which was a half-page article on Pontoppidan? Should I also have included specific quotes from articles that talk about her place on the Danish music scene (in regards to the notability aspect)?

In regards to sources I also want to ask about the type of sources, because I stumbled across some articles written about her that I didn't include because the author then at the end says "Pontoppidan is playing at XXX on XXX date". I assumed that this wouldn't be a good reference and therefore didn't include them. Should I have?

In general I'm a bit confused as to what renders an article "good", even though I've read the guidelines. Some articles I look at, such as this one /info/en/?search=Dalia_Faitelson doesn't seem to have any independent sources but it has still been approved. Do you know why? I'm sorry what I've written here is so long, but if you have the time it would be really helpful for me if you could answer my questions/point me in the right direction before I attempt to write another article/update this one!

Thank you so much!

P.S. Just to be clear, I'm not requesting a re-review of the article at this point in time, I just wanted to ask a couple of questions.

JennyK2610 ( talk) 12:19, 17 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Hi JennyK2610, If you've found independent sources that provide significant coverage, definitely include them. It's fine if the articles end with a notice about a performance as long as it's not from a publication related to Randi (or the venue where she's performing) and there's in-depth editorial content. Including quotes in the first paragraph could be helpful, particularly if they illustrate her notability. You just need to be careful not to overdo it - the article needs to have a neutral point of view. (I wrote the Sofia Rei and Ryan Keberle articles -- I used a lot of quotes. Jazz artists are difficult since there aren't a lot of publications that cover the genre.)
There are many articles on Wikipedia that shouldn't have been published. Some were written a long time ago, and some have just never been noticed. The article that you referenced wasn't accepted -- it was published directly by the editor who wrote it. (I will tag it for notability after I've had a chance to search on my own.) You don't have to put articles through the review process; if you're a confirmed user - you can just move it from the draft space to the main space. Working with AfC is helpful for newer editors, but it's not mandatory. (The article will still be reviewed, but it's through a different mechanism.)
I hope that I've answered your questions, and no worries about my time. I'm happy to help. I hope you update the article and stick around to contribute others. Thanks, JSFarman ( talk) 04:20, 18 April 2018 (UTC) reply

17:13:52, 18 April 2018 review of submission by Hayleycaldervibe2017


I'm requesting a re review as I feel my clients page should be allowed to be published as only facts are stated on this page - my client is a writer/producer signed to one of the biggest publishing companies in the world (Sony ATV) he currently has a song that he co produced on one of the biggest albums in the world right now (Cardi b) - the album is RIAA gold certified and he is listed as a producer. Pls can you give us a bit more advise on what you consider to be a reliable source? Thanks Hayleycaldervibe2017 ( talk) 17:13, 18 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Hi Hayleycaldervibe2017,
First: if he is your client, you have a conflict of interest. Please see WP:COI.
To answer your questions, a valid source needs to be independent of the subject of the article, provide extensive overage, and meet editorial standards, such as content written by professional journalists, and a practice of fact-checking. Social media like Twitter and Facebook are not acceptable, since the content is generally user-contributed and/or not independent. Output is a blog published by a software company, and Hamada Mania would not be considered reliable -- it's a wordpress site published by a music fan. Discogs and allmusic are great to verify the assertions of the article, but discographies on their own don't establish notability. (I haven't seen Spotify used previously, but it would fall into the same category as iTunes, which isn't valid.) Sony/ATV is prestigious, but being signed to the company does not on its own mean the subject meets the inclusion criteria. For more information on sources, see WP:SOURCE. For more specifics on notability, see WP:NMUSIC - he may meet inclusion criteria that I'm not aware of. If he was nominated for a Grammy, notability is automatic. He needs to be specifically nominated, though, and I can't find a valid citation. Co-writing the Cardi B song may also satisfy the notability requirement in the opinion of another reviewer.
I hope this is of some help. Thanks, JSFarman ( talk) 20:51, 18 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Quality Control Music

Hey! I'm the creator of the Quality Control wikipedia page. I'm just wondering, what does it mean to have my page reviewed? Thanks! Bandittx ( talk) 21:45, 18 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Hello Bandittx! A user group of reviewers checks new pages to make sure they comply with Wikipedia's guidelines. When I reviewed your page I checked to make sure that the subject was notable and that the content neutral, balanced, and referenced. If it wasn't, I would have edited it, tagged it, speedied it, or nominated it for deletion. Once an article passes through review, t's indexed by search engines. You can find all the info at New Page Patrol.

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Mina Sundwall

Hello! You seem to be active on the Sundwall page. I want to ask about moving forward. The subject is undoubtedly notable enough for posting, her co-stars have less impressive credentials than her and have pages, and she is garnering more and more media coverage as the days pass. I am contacting you because I don't want to simply resubmit this without ensuring that this page can sufficiently meet Wikipedia standards. I know this draft deserves to be published, and I want a seasoned Wikipedian like yourself's help in making it possible. Thanks a lot! (Page here: /info/en/?search=Draft:Mina_Sundwall) WikiSniki ( talk) 23:52, 20 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Hi WikiSniki ( talk). I left my comments on the draft when I declined it on April 8. She hasn't come closer to meeting the inclusion criteria since then. I'll be happy to publish the draft when and if she does. Thanks, JSFarman ( talk) 16:26, 21 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Thanks for the response, JSFarman ( talk). I totally get that, which is why I'm asking for your help in seeing what I cn do to make it work. I have a lot of belief in it, but I definitely agree with you that it isn't ready. I just want to know the steps I can make to make it suitable. (Edit*: Added links to two sources praising her acting. At least one of them looks relatively reputable. Geek.com and Romper.com) Thanks, WikiSniki ( talk) 22:40, 21 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Hi again, WikiSniki, I just did another search and didn't come up with additional sources, and for me, the only way that she'll meet the inclusion criteria, is, um, to meet it. As I said on my original review, it's early. She's 16. When the series airs I'm sure she'll get more press.
You do know that you can publish an article directly, correct? It doesn't need to go through AfC. You can just move it from the draft space to the article space using the "move" option in the "more" menu. (I don't think it will survive if it's nominated for deletion, but you never know.) Thanks, JSFarman ( talk) 00:02, 22 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Thank You!

Hi, Julie!

I just wanted to stop by and say thank you for helping review and contribute to ResistBot! Since I'm still a student, all your feedback is greatly appreciated.

Best, Sweet inaara ( talk) 16:20, 23 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Hello Sweet inaara! It's a great article - you've done a fantastic job with it. (I'm stoked that Wikipedia has an article on ResistBot, too.)) Thanks for your message! JSFarman ( talk) 01:34, 24 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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No problem... would should there be an article regarding his brand, fear of god, or is it too young?

Hi StraightOuttaBoston. I was really just talking about the Jerry Lorenzo article. You could write about his early life, what inspired him to start the line, how quickly it developed, his faith - it's such a good story, seems like the kind of article that would be rewarding to write. (They're the kind of articles I love to write. I may be projecting!) JSFarman ( talk) 05:44, 26 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Nelson Broms

Hi, Julie. Thanks for your guidance on the article about] Nelson Broms (and for taking your finger off the "delete" button!). I'm working on additional citations. Rathfulman ( talk) 22:52, 3 May 2018 (UTC) reply

HiJulie, I added new citations to] Nelson Broms and deleted one statement I couldn't verify. Please take a look and, if you think the article now meets the guidelines, consider unflagging. Thanks. Rathfulman ( talk) 22:55, 3 May 2

Hi Rathfulman ( talk): In my opinion, based on the references used, he doesn't meet the inclusion criteria. He isn't mentioned in the The New York Times , CNN, or Washington Post references, and while the second NY Times ref does mention him, it's one sentence in a column on executive changes. Bloomberg is a run-of-the-mill listing; Funding Univese is hardly a reliiable hardly a reliable source; ASU is not independent, SEC is a press release; US News and World Report is about ASU; Distinctive Schools, LEEP, and EdisonLearning are not indpendent. That leaves the Science Network and CSPAN, and CSPAN is coverage of a "forum to discuss the idea of an alliance between Jewish Americans and political conservatives." JSFarman ( talk) 04:40, 4 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the second look and the evaluation, Julie. I'll keep looking for independent citations to add. I continue to believe Broms is notable enough, and I don't understand why independent mentions of him proved so difficult to find. Rathfulman ( talk) 17:03, 6 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Julie, I found and included more independent citations, and deleted some of my assertions I found I couldn't verify. I would appreciate it if you would take a look when you have time, and let me know what you think. Best, Rathfulman ( talk) 05:16, 13 May 2018 (UTC) reply

(Follow-up to the above) Julie, I need some guidance, please. Some of the citations I found for the Nelson Broms article are from microfiche archives and not available online. I posted PDFs of them, with attribution, to Wikisource, and linked to those. I thought that was one of the purposes of WS but an editor there said no; that they should be on WM Commons, and they might not comply with copyright guidelines. My question for you and your experience is, how can I use a citation that doesn't exist online, for which I have a PDF that can be found in the source's archives? Thank you again for the hand-holding. Rathfulman ( talk) 15:51, 13 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Hi Rathfulman ( talk), and thanks for adding the citations.
References don't need to be accessible online. Just use the usual format for referencing, and insert the name of the publication, the date of publication, the title of the article, and the article's author, as well as any other info (such as the page number) that might help a reader to locate the reference. I haven't had a chance to look at the article yet - hoping to get to it this evening. Thanks! Julie JSFarman ( talk) 00:02, 14 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Thanks again, Julie. Very helpful. Don't bother looking tonight. I won't have the citations plugged in appropriately till tomorrow, and then you can see the (hopefully) finished product. Rathfulman ( talk) 19:41, 14 May 2018 (UTC) reply

May 2018 at Women in Red

Welcome to Women in Red's May 2018 worldwide online editathons.
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New: "Women of the Sea"

New: "Villains"

New: "Women in Sports"

New: "Central Eastern European women"


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Wiki Loves Food

Curd Rice
Curd Rice

Hello! After the successful pilot program by Wikimedia India in 2015, Wiki Loves Food (WLF) is happening again in 2018 and this year, it's going International. To make this event a grand success, your direction is key. Please sign up here as a volunteer to bring all the world's food to Wikimedia. Danidamiobi ( talk) 08:05, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply

17:47:26, 8 May 2018 review of submission by Msabaker


I included many more citations, including print and digital newspapers. I need to change the photograph but am not sure how to proceed at erasing this photograph and uploading one that has all the merits for creative common use. Msabaker ( talk) 17:47, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply


Event coordinator

Hi, the English Wikipedia recently created a new user permission for editors involved in off-wiki outreach work, event coordinator. This new permission allows users to mark accounts for confirmed for up to 10 days, and also allows them to create accounts for events without rate limits without some of the features of the account creator right that aren't used at edit-a-thons and other events. I have added the event coordinator permission to your account and removed the account creator permission, as you appear to have been using it mainly for outreach work.

This should have no noticeable impact on your ability to create accounts, and will give you the extra ability to temporarily confirm accounts if you need to. For more in formation, you can see the information page on the right, or you can ask me if you have any questions. TonyBallioni ( talk) 19:47, 16 May 2018 (UTC) reply

That's great. There's an edit-a-thon here in LA on Friday, and this will be incredibly helpful. Thank you, TonyBallioni! JSFarman ( talk) 21:04, 16 May 2018 (UTC) reply

NPR Newsletter No.11 25 May 2018

Hello JSFarman, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

ACTRIAL:

  • WP:ACREQ has been implemented. The flow at the feed has dropped back to the levels during the trial. However, the backlog is on the rise again so please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day; a backlog approaching 5,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Deletion tags

  • Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders. They require your further verification.

Backlog drive:

  • A backlog drive will take place from 10 through 20 June. Check out our talk page at WT:NPR for more details. NOTE: It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing. Despite our goal of reducing the backlog as much as possible, please do not rush while reviewing.

Editathons

  • There will be a large increase in the number of editathons in June. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the ' move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.

Paid editing - new policy

  • Now that ACTRIAL is ACREQ, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. There is a new global WMF policy that requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.

Subject-specific notability guidelines

  • The box at the right contains each of the subject-specific notability guidelines, please review any that are relevant BEFORE nominating an article for deletion.
  • Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves with the new version of the notability guidelines for organisations and companies.

Not English

  • A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, tag as required, then move to draft if they do have potential.

News

  • Development is underway by the WMF on upgrades to the New Pages Feed, in particular ORES features that will help to identify COPYVIOs, and more granular options for selecting articles to review.
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Women in Red June Editathons

Welcome to Women in Red's June 2018 worldwide online editathons.



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New: Singers and Songwriters

New: Women in GLAM

New: Geofocus: Russia/USSR


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Help?

Hi! You helped me a while back when my article for Manijeh Razeghi was flagged for deletion. Thank you. I appreciated that! :) Recently I had a different article that I received the notice for deletion after midnight and then the article was gone before I sat down to fix it at 6 am. I am cheesed that I wasn't given the opportunity to fix it before they deleted, but they did give me the article back in draft form. I have edited that and submitted it for review, but the notice says it will take two to three weeks to be reviewed. Is there any way you could review it for me? Best, SJT SJTatsu ( talk) 06:05, 8 June 2018 (UTC) reply

Hi SJTatsu. I was stoked when I came across the Manijeh Razeghi article. I didn't know about her, and I'm so glad that she is in WP.
I just checked out the draft for Motomatic, and it looks like you've done a significant edit for tone. I would still edit it a bit, though, and I think more references may be needed to establish notability. I'll review it as soon as I get some time! Thanks for the message and for contributing. Julie JSFarman ( talk) 16:41, 8 June 2018 (UTC) reply
Thank you! I'll continue to work on it.
Hi SJTatsu, I just reviewed the article. I intended to just leave comments, but it's not acceptable, and it doesn't make sense to leave it in the review queue. I left a comment on the decline notice, but you haven't established notability, and it reads like promotion. You need to write just the facts, specifically about the company; it can't be a cheer for the company's mission, notable though it may be. If you need help, let me know, but I did a search, and I don't think it's possible to meet notability at this time. JSFarman ( talk) 19:16, 11 June 2018 (UTC) reply

Hi. Thanks for looking at it. I am going to continue to work on it inbetween other pages that I want to do. I did find another article about it that might address the notability issue, but I do now understand that the article needs reconstruction, which I will be working on for the next few days. I do appreciate that you took the time to read it closely and google search. Sorry, it took me a while get back to you. Thanks again :) SJTatsu ( talk) 22:09, 29 June 2018 (UTC) reply

Building Helene Lerner's Wikipedia Page

Hello! I am an intern for Helene Lerner, working on building her Wikipedia page. I'm trying to upload a professional headshot of her that's she's given me permission to use, but the site won't allow it. Is there a way to get this approved? Or to have her reach out to you directly to give Wikipedia permission to include the photograph of her? Please let me know. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbamber ( talkcontribs) 16:12, 12 June 2018 (UTC) reply

Hi Cbamber. I just moved the article back to the draft space so that you can work on it there. (I will also leave this message on your talk page). There are many issues that you need to address:
  • The first is regarding notability - see WP:NPEOPLE. She would automatically be notable if she had won Emmy Awards, but regional Emmys don't go toward notability. (I edited the article last night, and noted that the Emmys were regional; I also added citations. You need to find independent references that provide extensive coverage specifically about Helene Lerner in reliable sources. The sources you've used aren't independent.
  • Verifiablility: See: WP:VERIFY. You need to be able to verify the assertions of the article, such as the Gracie Awards. I can't find any confirmation via and independent, reliable source.
  • Neutral point of view: The article is very promotional. See WP:NPOV. Get rid of the adjectives and the superlatives! A Wikipedia article should be just-the-facts. Ask yourself if a statement is significant, or if it serves only to promote the subject.
  • Conflict of Interest: You have a conflict of interest, and you should note that you're an intern for Helene Lerner on your user page, and on the draft. Because of your conflict, submit it through AfC rather than publishing it yourself. See WP:COI.
It looks like you participated in a Wikipedia course at Emory. Notability, verifiability, and neutrality are mandatory; do you have materials you can review? I'm happy to help if you're in need of guidance. Thanks, Julie JSFarman ( talk) 17:38, 12 June 2018 (UTC) reply

NPP Backlog Elimination Drive

Hello JSFarman, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

We can see the light at the end of the tunnel: there are currently 2900 unreviewed articles, and 4000 unreviewed redirects.

Announcing the Backlog Elimination Drive!

  • As a final push, we have decided to run a backlog elimination drive from the 20th to the 30th of June.
  • Reviewers who review at least 50 articles or redirects will receive a Special Edition NPP Barnstar: Special Edition New Page Patroller's Barnstar. Those who review 100, 250, 500, or 1000 pages will also receive tiered awards: 100 review coin, 250 review coin, 500 review coin, 1000 review certificate.
  • Please do not be hasty, take your time and fully review each page. It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing.

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July 2018 at Women in Red

Hello again from Women in Red!


July 2018 worldwide online editathons:
New: Sub-Saharan Africa Film + stage 20th-century Women Rock
Continuing: Notable women, broadly-construed!


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NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months. ( Purge)

Hello JSFarman, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

June backlog drive

Overall the June backlog drive was a success, reducing the last 3,000 or so to below 500. However, as expected, 90% of the patrolling was done by less than 10% of reviewers.
Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.

New technology, new rules
  • New features are shortly going to be added to the Special:NewPagesFeed which include a list of drafts for review, OTRS flags for COPYVIO, and more granular filter preferences. More details can be found at this page.
  • Probationary permissions: Now that PERM has been configured to allow expiry dates to all minor user rights, new NPR flag holders may sometimes be limited in the first instance to 6 months during which their work will be assessed for both quality and quantity of their reviews. This will allow admins to accord the right in borderline cases rather than make a flat out rejection.
  • Current reviewers who have had the flag for longer than 6 months but have not used the permissions since they were granted will have the flag removed, but may still request to have it granted again in the future, subject to the same probationary period, if they wish to become an active reviewer.
Editathons
  • Editathons will continue through August. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the ' move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.
The Signpost
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September 2018 at Women in Red

September is an exciting new month for Women in Red's worldwide online editathons!



New: Women currently in academics Women + Law Geofocus: Hispanic countries

Continuing: #1day1woman Global Initiative

Check it out: Monthly achievement initiative

  • All creators of new biographies can keep track of their progress and earn virtual awards.
  • It can be used in conjunction with the above editathons or for any women's biography created in September.
  • Try it out when you create your first biography of the month.

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It's the 7th Annual Los Angeles Wiknic!

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NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018

Hello JSFarman, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.

Project news
As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.
Other
Moving to Draft and Page Mover
  • Some unsuitable new articles can be best reviewed by moving them to the draft space, but reviewers need to do this carefully and sparingly. It is most useful for topics that look like they might have promise, but where the article as written would be unlikely to survive AfD. If the article can be easily fixed, or if the only issue is a lack of sourcing that is easily accessible, tagging or adding sources yourself is preferable. If sources do not appear to be available and the topic does not appear to be notable, tagging for deletion is preferable (PROD/AfD/CSD as appropriate). See additional guidance at WP:DRAFTIFY.
  • If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
  • Articles that have been created in contravention of our paid-editing-requirements or written from a blatant NPOV perspective, or by authors with a clear COI might also be draftified at discretion.
  • The best tool for draftification is User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js( info). Kindly adapt the text in the dialogue-pop-up as necessary (the default can also be changed like this). Note that if you do not have the Page Mover userright, the redirect from main will be automatically tagged as CSD R2, but in some cases it might be better to make this a redirect to a different page instead.
  • The Page Mover userright can be useful for New Page Reviewers; occasionally page swapping is needed during NPR activities, and it helps avoid excessive R2 nominations which must be processed by admins. Note that the Page Mover userright has higher requirements than the NPR userright, and is generally given to users active at Requested Moves. Only reviewers who are very experienced and are also very active reviewers are likely to be granted it solely for NPP activities.
List of other useful scripts for New Page Reviewing

  • Twinkle provides a lot of the same functionality as the page curation tools, and some reviewers prefer to use the Twinkle tools for some/all tasks. It can be activated simply in the gadgets section of 'preferences'. There are also a lot of options available at the Twinkle preferences panel after you install the gadget.
  • In terms of other gadgets for NPR, HotCat is worth turning on. It allows you to easily add, remove, and change categories on a page, with name suggestions.
  • MoreMenu also adds a bunch of very useful links for diagnosing and fixing page issues.
  • User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js( info): Installing scripts doesn't have to be complicated. Go to your common.js and copy importScript( 'User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js' ); into an empty line, now you can install all other scripts with the click of a button from the script page! (Note you need to be at the ".js" page for the script for the install button to appear, not the information page)
  • User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js( info): Creates a scrolling new pages list at the left side of the page. You can change the number of pages shown by adding the following to the next line on your common.js page (immediately after the line importing this script): npp_num_pages=20; (Recommended 20, but you can use any number from 1 to 50).
  • User:Primefac/revdel.js( info): Is requesting revdel complicated and time consuming? This script helps simplify the process. Just have the Copyvio source URL and go to the history page and collect your diff IDs and you can drop them into the script Popups and it will create a revdel request for you.
  • User:Lourdes/PageCuration.js( info): Creates a "Page Curation" link to Special:NewPagesFeed up near your sandbox link.
  • User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/deletionFinder.js: Creates links next to the title of each page which show up if it has been previously deleted or nominated for deletion.
  • User:Evad37/rater.js( info): A fantastic tool for adding WikiProject templates to article talk pages. If you add: rater_autostartNamespaces = 0; to the next line on your common.js, the prompt will pop up automatically if a page has no Wikiproject templates on the talk page (note: this can be a bit annoying if you review redirects or dab pages commonly).

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October 2018 at Women in Red

Please join us... We have four new topics for Women in Red's worldwide online editathons in October!



New: Clubs Science fiction + fantasy STEM The Mediterranean

Continuing: #1day1woman Global Initiative

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Nile Rodgers

Hi there, would you please take a look at Nile Rodgers? I fixed some of the issues, but your recent edit added a ton of ref errors and duplicate text in the 1980s section. Thanks, Jessicapierce ( talk) 01:17, 8 October 2018 (UTC) reply

Hi Jessicapierce and thank you! I didn't clear the cache when I previewed the article and didn't see all the ref errors - I was horrified when I looked at it on my cell. I think I got most of them but there's still work to be done. I'm trying to rewrite and ref another 30 years. Thank you, thank you....I hate when that happens. Julie JSFarman ( talk) 03:39, 8 October 2018 (UTC) reply
No worries, I've done worse! Let me know if you'd like a fresh set of eyes on it at any point. Cheers, Jessicapierce ( talk) 03:55, 8 October 2018 (UTC) reply

Get ready for November with Women in Red!

Three new topics for WiR's online editathons in November, two of them supporting other initiatives



New: Religion Deceased politicians Asia

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NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello JSFarman, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

Backlog

As of 21 October 2018, there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.

Community Wishlist Proposal
Project updates
  • ORES predictions are now built-in to the feed. These automatically predict the class of an article as well as whether it may be spam, vandalism, or an attack page, and can be filtered by these criteria now allowing reviewers to better target articles that they prefer to review.
  • There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.
New scripts

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Request on 17:52:59, 31 October 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Artworkintl


I understand your policy that every factual assertion needs to be verifiable, but I am a little unclear on what Wikipedia editors consider a "factual assertion." I see on entries for other people that their place of birth, education and the like are not substantiated. I could use a little guidance on what parts of this entry or what types of assertions require corroboration. Thank you for your time.


Artworkintl ( talk) 17:52, 31 October 2018 (UTC) reply

Hi Artworkintl.
You will find a lot of articles on WP that don't conform to the guidelines or policies. Sometimes it's because they were created ages ago, and sometimes it's just because no one has noticed. Either way, the existence of one poorly-sourced article doesn't justify the existence of another. See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. That said, yes, the assertions of the article need to be verifiable. For example: "Beginning his professional life in the business sector, in 1972 Harris co-founded and was Executive Vice President of Red Roof Inns" should be supported, and can be:
<ref>{{Cite news|url=https://fineartconnoisseur.com/2018/09/contemporary-sculptures-risky-change-spotlight-mark-yale-harris/|title=A Risky Change: Spotlight on Mark Yale Harris - Fine Art Connoisseur|date=2018-09-21|work=Fine Art Connoisseur|access-date=2018-10-31|language=en-US}}</ref>
And so on. There's a lot of content in the article that needs to be verified, from the lead paragraph through the section about his recognition. See WP:VERIFY, and note that Wikipedia content is determined by previously published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of its editors. Even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it. (The refs should be placed next to the assertions they support; you have them in the "further reading" section.)
I declined the article based on notability, though -- you need more references via independent, reliable sources in order to meet Wikipedia's inclusion criteria. I suspect they exist, but you may have to dig back a while. See WP:NPEOPLE. There are five references used for the current draft, and at least four of them aren't valid. Wikipedia (not reliable!), his own website and two refs related to exhibits (not independent). I'm not familiar with ArtSi.
Finally, it appears that you may have a conflict of interest. If so, please read WP:COI.
I hope that helps. He has a great story! Let me know if you need additional guidance. JSFarman ( talk) 23:11, 31 October 2018 (UTC) reply

NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello JSFarman,

Community Wishlist Survey – NPP needs you – Vote NOW
  • Community Wishlist Voting takes place 16 to 30 November for the Page Curation and New Pages Feed improvements, and other software requests. The NPP community is hoping for a good turnout in support of the requests to Santa for the tools we need. This is very important as we have been asking the Foundation for these upgrades for 4 years.
If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.
We are counting on significant support not only from our own ranks, but from everyone who is concerned with maintaining a Wikipedia that is free of vandalism, promotion, flagrant financial exploitation and other pollution.
With all 650 reviewers voting for these urgently needed improvements, our requests would be unlikely to fail. See also The Signpost Special report: 'NPP: This could be heaven or this could be hell for new users – and for the reviewers', and if you are not sure what the wish list is all about, take a sneak peek at an article in this month's upcoming issue of The Signpost which unfortunately due to staff holidays and an impending US holiday will probably not be published until after voting has closed.

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December 2018 at Women in Red

The WiR December editathons provide something for everyone.



New: Photography Laureates Countries beginning with 'I'

Continuing: #1day1woman Global Initiative

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Request for help/review

Hi there. I'm reaching out to WikiProject Awards and individual editors for help on the 2018 Nobel Peace Prize article. I believe the content is well beyond "stub" rating, but I may be too close to the article as few besides myself have been editing the content. Any advice, tips or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Litjade ( talk) 11:55, 12 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Hi Litjade ( talk) - I just looked at the (fantastic) article and it is definitely not a stub - ! Went to change the classification and was pleased to discover that someone had already upgraded the article to a B. Sheesh. (You are *not* too close to the article - it is nowhere near a stub - I suspect the "stub" classification was a mistake.) JSFarman ( talk) 20:44, 12 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018

Hello JSFarman,

Reviewer of the Year

This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.

Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.

See also the list of top 100 reviewers.

Less good news, and an appeal for some help

The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640 holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.


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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2019!

Hello JSFarman, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2019.
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Help reviewing proposed edits?

Hi!

I see you are a member of the Wikipedia project for journalism. I was a journalist for 25 years so it's a topic that interests me. Anyway, I have a conflict of interest with respect to the article about the journalist Jonathan Swan as a paid consultant to his current publisher, Axios. I think the article can be massively improved and I've made a series of proposed changes here: Talk:Jonathan_Swan#Request_Edits. If you could take a look, it would be much appreciated. I don't make edits directly on the article because of the WP: COI policy. But I am an experienced Wikipedia editor. Thanks! Ed BC1278 ( talk) 19:24, 1 January 2019 (UTC) reply

Sorry for the delay. I made most of your suggested changes.
It took much longer to do this than I would have anticipated. Last time I answer a formal edit request. :) JSFarman ( talk) 22:25, 28 January 2019 (UTC) reply

Igor Naming Agency references

In this edit, with edit summary "Fixed ref errors", the major aspects of the changes appear to be:

I'm undoing this edit as there is so much seeming damage. If you could clarify what error(s) you were trying to fix, perhaps I could help figure out a way to fix it without poor side-effects. DMacks ( talk) 05:49, 2 January 2019 (UTC) reply

Hi DMacks and thank you. I was trying to fix the references that were marked in red with |access-date= requires |url= (help). For the Seattle Times, I was using the cite tool in wikitext editor. No idea why cite news became cite web, but I think you've found a new bug. (New to me, at least.) For the offline references I was trying to reformat so that the warning was removed but the info was preserved (USA Today and Patriot Ledger). I didn't realize that I'd deleted LA Times and Fast Company, don't know how I managed that.
I run into this error (or warning, or whatever) all the time - is there an automated fix? Or do I go back to using markup and abandon wikitext editor all together? Thank you! JSFarman ( talk) 06:16, 2 January 2019 (UTC) reply
Okay I see those error notes now. In some cases, the "right" (or at least "technically correct and easy":) solution is to remove the |access-date= for refs that are published in a static hard copy. As the cite docs say, "Access dates are not required for links to published research papers, published books, or news articles with publication dates.". It's only really needed for web sources and other non-static content where the content could be different on different days. That's pretty unusual compared to how I was taught bibliographic style in school! One of the refs was easy to fix because you found the URL, so I just re-added it.
I never use automated editing tools (except Twinkle). I'm always frustrated when I come across corner cases and "simple changes" that wind up making a giant and confusing diff in the edit-history. But then again I'm used to writing all sorts of code, so writing raw wikicode is about as fast as using point-and-click when I want really tight control over what I do. DMacks ( talk) 03:40, 3 January 2019 (UTC) reply
Thank you DMacks. For your response and for fixing the Igor article.
I am so all about "technically correct and easy." I'm *not* used to writing code, and I make mistakes that I can't figure out how to correct. Um, obviously.
Thank you again. JSFarman ( talk) 05:02, 5 January 2019 (UTC) reply

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Restoring deletions

To say that someone's writing is controversial (and I believe you re correct in saying that Arnold's has been) while offering only a quasi-Festschrift of quotes seems to indicate that neutrality would lie in indicating where the disagreements lie.

Sorry that the mention of Kurt Cobain turns your stomach, but mention of Arnold's ongoing obsession with Nirvana is certainly relevant. For what it's worth, her reference to "Smells Like Teen Spirit" in her paper on rock festivals didn't come close too turning my stomach but did give me a slight headache. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LimaMonk ( talkcontribs) 23:25, 30 January 2019 (UTC) reply

Hi LimaMonk. It's wasn't the mention of Kurt Cobain that turned my stomach, it was the quote's trivialization of his suicide. Moving the NY Times quote makes perfect sense to keep the article balanced. Thanks for doing that. PS - Nice use of "Festschrift." JSFarman ( talk) 00:13, 31 January 2019 (UTC) reply

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I noticed that you made a minor edit to your user page and that motivated me to take a closer look. I read a bunch of articles and lots of your blog posts. You are a really good writer and a very interesting person. It is very good to know you a bit. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:43, 16 February 2019 (UTC) reply

I saw the message notice and my first thought was that it was going to be someone complaining about an article I declined. I'm so glad that it is instead a lovely message from you. Thank you for the kind words (and all of the guidance) and very good to know you too! JSFarman ( talk) 06:54, 16 February 2019 (UTC) reply

Draft:Richard Cottle

Please, pray tell, how can Draft:Richard Cottle's brother and his Alan Parsons Project bandmates all have articles and NOT him, with a very lengthy list of credits to his name?!?!? That credit list in itself, with notable artists galore, establishes notability!!!!! 184.166.187.64 ( talk) 16:56, 16 February 2019 (UTC) reply

As I wrote in declining the submission, it is difficult to establish notability for session musicians. I am aware of his accomplishments and credits, but based on my interpretation of the notability criteria for musicians, neither Richard or Laurence Cottle (as his article now reads) meet the inclusion criteria. Please feel free to edit and resubmit as another reviewer might feel differently. JSFarman ( talk) 17:54, 16 February 2019 (UTC) reply

re written with new, independent references Jamie Robson (actor)

I'm reaching out to you as the last person who reviewed for submission my Jamie Robson (actor) page. I have rewritten it with new, independent references. If you have some time I would be grateful if you could have a look before I officially submit it? Pcmdevries ( talk) 10:54, 18 February 2019 (UTC) reply

Hi Pcmdevries, I wish I could tell you differently -- his work looks amazing -- but the references used don't establish notability. You need to have multiple references (in my opinion, three is the minimum) from independent reliable sources that provide extensive coverage specifically on James Robson. I'm sorry! I just did a search and didn't turn anything up. JSFarman ( talk) 04:26, 19 February 2019 (UTC) reply
Thank you JSFarman, I really appreciate that you took the time to look! It may just be a typo but his name is Jamie Robson (not James Robson). He has the same name as a Scottish footballer so to find articles about him you need to search for "Jamie Robson Actor" otherwise the results are confused with the Footballer. He is mentioned in this article in The Herald https://www.heraldscotland.com/arts_ents/17336354.ones-to-watch-2019-the-scots-set-to-make-their-mark-over-the-coming-year/ but I wasn't sure about using it as the article is about lots of different people. The Herald is the main national newspaper in Scotland. Would it help if this was included? Pcmdevries ( talk) 10:59, 19 February 2019 (UTC) reply
Hi Pcmdevries ( talk), I am so sorry for the long delay. I've been out of town (and mainly off WP) for a bit. The Herald definitely helps, but you need to have several sources that provide more extensive coverage. I'll keep him on my google watchlist, and you should continue to add to the draft - let me know if you feel like you have the sources required and I'll re-review the article. Apologies again for my slow response! JSFarman ( talk) 04:12, 3 March 2019 (UTC) reply
Hello JSFarman! Totally understandable! I really appreciate that you came back to me. I added the Herald Article and A Product Magazine interview and submitted the draft for submission. I've just added another Take One Cinema Interview reference as well. Any further pointers would be welcome! Pcmdevries ( talk) 21:11, 18 March 2019 (UTC) reply
Hi again. You're getting closer but it is still light on refs. Take One Cinema isn't a reliable source - it's written by volunteers (who are probably reliable but fall outside WP's definition of reliability). Thanks for your perseverance! JSFarman ( talk) 15:24, 4 April 2019 (UTC) reply

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Thanks for help on David M Posner page

Thank you for helping me to clean up David M Posner’s page. I am just starting to edit and am learning how to write for Wikipedia. Iamjessklein ( talk) 23:02, 14 March 2019 (UTC) reply

You did a great job on the article, Iamjessklein. My edits were minor. Thanks for writing the article! David Posner was remarkable. In so many ways. JSFarman ( talk) 20:56, 15 March 2019 (UTC) reply
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Draft: Scott Ellsworth

JSFarman,

I did a great deal of editing/clean up and redirecting of references to certain parts of Draft: Scott Ellsworth. I hope this clears up what you were referring to. I do have a bio pic in my possession sent to me directly from Ellsworth himself so the page can be more complete. Thanks for your help and I hope the page can go up now.

Shelyric ( talk) 02:19, 3 April 2019 (UTC) reply

Hi Shelyric. My response as a Wikipedia editor: Ellsworth's resume and interviews done by phone and email (presumably by you) are not valid sources, and you've used them as a source 22 times! Please read WP:Verifiability for guidance. As a side note, I think you are a fan (of radio and/or Ellsworth) but if you have any official or personal relationship with him you should read WP:COI.
My response as a real-life editor - the article is way too long. You should revisit and cut what is not essential to the narrative! (Removing anything that is not verifiable might be sufficient.) Thanks! JSFarman ( talk) 16:45, 4 April 2019 (UTC) reply
Hello JSFarman,

Through the archived interviews and other links I got know Ellsworth's work. I got interested in doing the article because of his impact on interviewing jazz artists and entertainers on a nationally known level, he is a rare breed. As a kid growing up in the Los Angeles area he was well know. I contacted Ellworth so to fill in holes of his timeline, there would be no other way to do that. There is no biography written on Ellsworth. I can certainly cut more out but at some point there are certain facts about his life that only he could verify, especially the earlier years. I can cut down those references to only a few so to at least back up some of the earlier year stuff. Shelyric


Hello JSFarman,

re:Draft:Scott Ellsworth

I have done another round of serious edits for this page in question. The references from the 'interview' have been cut way down from 22 to only 7 (which would be necessary for that very personal information). It is far more dependent on more reliable sources you have pointed to as they can reinforce Ellsworth's notability. Un-needed information for the page has again been deleted.

Shelyric ( talk) 05:36, 5 April 2019 (UTC) reply

Hello again, Shelyric. Based on the content of the article, I thought you were a student of radio and/or jazz - I didn't really think you had a conflict of interest. Just covering the bases.
Thanks for the edits. But still -- Wikipedia requires verifiability, and to be properly verifiable, the references need to be via an independent, reliable source. (It can sometimes be ok to use primary sources for personal information about the subject of the article, but an unpublished interview would be very hard to justify.)
Do you have access to any archives or databases? A library? I added a 2004 ref from the Riverside Press Enterprise - it provides a lot of info on Ellsworth - I will be glad to post the content on your talk page if you don't have access to it. I also condensed the lead. You can (of course) revert my edit (but save the source)! You can also resubmit the article - another reviewer might not be as concerned with sources as I am. Thanks, Julie JSFarman ( talk) 18:47, 6 April 2019 (UTC) reply
Hello, Shelyric. JFarman diplomatically says "an unpublished interview would be very hard to justify." I will be a bit more direct. Use of an unpublished interview is contrary to two of our three core content polices, specifically, No original research and Verifiability. Since you conducted the interview, it is original research on your part. Since it is unpublished, it is not verifiable. Any and all content based on "interviews with Scott Ellsworth by phone and email, January 2019" must be removed from the draft if you want this draft to be approved. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 19:20, 6 April 2019 (UTC) reply
On the other hand, Shelyric, if you write an article based in part on your interview, and get that published in some reliable source like a newspaper or a magazine, then that published article could be used as a source on Wikipedia. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 19:50, 6 April 2019 (UTC) reply
Hello Again JSFarman.

I appreciate you pointing me in that direction and whatever research materials that can be supplied. No, there are only certain things I have been able to get a hold in terms of research materials (through Highbeam, etc.?). I never saw any lengthy article or interviews from the Riverside Press Enterprise or other Inland Empire (Southern California based) media resources who might have done an expose on Ellsworth. Anything would help so I can complete this research and finish the article properly (thanks!!!). To my knowledge, the only interview outside of my own was done for the jazz/festival symposium is with the Pasadena archives; Ellsworth does not get enough into his past to verify some things from earlier in his career in Colorado/Utah...it was not until he goes to KFI in Los Anglels that he gains national notoriety (for the most part). While Ellsworth was helpful with the information he supplied, he is in his 90's and I don't think he remembers every interview and article. YES...please post any content you have on my talk page I would really appreciate it!!!

Thanks Shelyric

I totally get it, Shelyric - there are people (particularly) women that I would like to write about but can't because the sources don't exist. I think you will have to dig way back into the past to find the coverage you need. I have found that going to the library is very helpful; I did an article on Harry Brand and most of the sources came from physical copies of newspapers and magazines from the 40s that the librarians at the Margaret Herrick Library found for me. I found the Riverside Press-Enterprise article through NewsBank. I've left the text on your user page. I'll keep looking. JSFarman ( talk) 21:43, 6 April 2019 (UTC) reply
Oh wait...I can't copy the article on to your user page as it is copyrighted material. If you email me (through the "email this user" link to the left) I will send it to you via email.
Hello again JSFarman,

I am sorry and maybe I am just not getting this...I am not seeing an 'email this user' tab to the left. Is this on your talk page? On the master Wikipedia page? Sorry for my ignorance.

Thanks Shelyric

No worries Shelyric. It can be confusing. Go to left hand nav of my user page and you'll see the prompt. Also - I just found an article ("The A to Z on Los Angeles Radio" from the Orange County Register from May 1995. It references a book of the same name (the A to Z of Los Angeles Radio) - the journalist wrote: "Going through the book is like browsing through an old high school yearbook. You recall the name of a friend on the radio and -- sure enough --_ that person's in the book: Jan-Marie, Scott Ellsworth, Jim Bain, Dick Haynes, Neil Ross, Amy Hiatt, Kathy Gori _ the list goes on and on." The book doesn't appear to be indexed on Google.
PS - He had a dog named Woofus! (Big Bear Grizzly (Big Bear Lake, CA) - July 23, 2003). JSFarman ( talk) 22:59, 6 April 2019 (UTC) reply

Hello JSFarman, I am not sure if my browser is not allowing this (still do not see it) but I went ahead and gave you my email on your page. PLEASE erase this after you have emailed me...we will talk there. Shelyric


Hello JSFarman,

Thank you for the resources you supplied! Please look at the note sent (to email), I hope to have whittled the Ellsworth page down to exactly what is needed and is completely justified and can be moved on.

Appreciated, Shelyric

Hi again, Shelyric, It's so much better referenced. I'm going to remove the uncited info and accept the article -- more can be added when you find the references. (I'll keep looking too.) Thank you for your perseverance (and for writing the article)! Julie JSFarman ( talk) 20:57, 10 April 2019 (UTC) reply

Hello JSFarman,

I really do appreciate the help and the fact you took extra time on this. Thank for helping to move the article forward as Ellsworth is an unsung hero who did literally hundreds of interviews of very important artists and his style was unique.

Again, THANKS!!! Shelyric ( talk) 04:28, 11 April 2019 (UTC) reply


Request on 12:04:39, 3 April 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Lawsongeorge


Request Assistent for page; Draft:The_Coding_Institute Hi JSFarman, I have got the message that, the page for Draft:The_Coding_Institute has been rejected. Actually we don't have enough coverage by third party publications. I just want to ask, if any genuine company and page has not enough coverage, what is your suggestion to get those approved from Wiki editors. Lawsongeorge ( talk) 12:04, 3 April 2019 (UTC) reply

Hi Lawsongeorge! Best advice: wait until you have third party references.  :) JSFarman ( talk) 16:32, 4 April 2019 (UTC) reply

Precious anniversary

Precious
Five years!

-- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:02, 14 April 2019 (UTC) reply

Thank you so much, Gerda Arendt. Thank you times five. That you noticed my work made such a huge difference for me on Wikipedia early on -- it made me feel connected to the community, and it is one of the reasons I stuck around. JSFarman ( talk) 21:57, 15 April 2019 (UTC) reply
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Removing my animations

Hi there Mr/Ms Farman,

I see you went through and deleted a few of my animations...mainly footwear on various pages. You said they are promotional. Please be assured they are not. I have nothing to do with any of the brands where I posted these animations. I have been putting these animations up on various pages for years now and they almost always remain up there because the community feels they are a useful visualization of the products they manufacture. I have been through this before where an editor suspected I was working for the brands in question and I was able to prove this is not the case. Please let me know how we can resolve this.

Thanks

Karl Martini — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karldmartini ( talkcontribs) 21:25, 29 April 2019 (UTC) reply

Hi Karldmartini, if it has been discussed previously, and the community reached a consensus that the animations were appropriate, I'll cease and desist. Thanks, Julie JSFarman ( talk) 22:11, 29 April 2019 (UTC) reply

Many thanks Julie. I will repost the animation from where they have been removed if that is OK? If you need further proof that these are not promotional, please see the oven ready chicken For which one user commented 'Thank you for creating the spinning oven-ready chicken, it makes me happy that the internet exists'.

This is being discussed at User talk:Karldmartini. I suggest consolodating all discussion there rather than talking about the same issue on two pages. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 17:35, 15 May 2019 (UTC) reply
Hi, I just saw the discussion. If I have anything further to add I'll do it on Karldmartini's talk page. On an unrelated subject, this is my new favorite userbox:
xkcdThis user cannot go to bed when someone is wrong on the Internet.
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JSFarman ( talk) 19:06, 15 May 2019 (UTC) reply

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UC Irvine edit-a-thon on May 17, 2019

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NPR Newsletter No.18

Hello JSFarman,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:

  • Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
  • Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.
Reliable Sources for NPP

Rosguill has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.

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Elizabeth Chitty

Thank you! LorriBrown ( talk) 19:14, 12 June 2019 (UTC) reply

My pleasure. Thank you for the article and for introducing me to her work! JSFarman ( talk) 17:39, 21 June 2019 (UTC) reply

OUTWORDS Archive republish

Hi -- thanks for your support with OUTWORDS Archive page, which we've republished with new references from OUT.com, Bay Area Reporter, and KQED. Please check it out if you have time: /info/en/?search=Draft:The_OUTWORDS_Archive Artfullheart ( talk) 04:20, 19 June 2019 (UTC) reply

Hi Artfullheart, I just did a quick edit and accepted the article. I think it still might be a little short on references, but I suspect that there will be more articles coming related to the book's publication; please add them as they are published. And, since the archives are freely available, images can be used on Wikipedia! Thanks for persevering (and for writing the article). JSFarman ( talk) 18:20, 21 June 2019 (UTC) reply
Hi JSFarman, thank you for accepting and editing the article! Artfullheart ( talk) 19:57, 21 June 2019 (UTC) reply

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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019

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WMF at work on NPP Improvements

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.

QUALITY of REVIEWING

Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.

Backlog

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Regarding Rajesh Khanna MD Page

I got the message from wikipedia to use the following tag and ask for help form other users

{{Advert tag}}

Regards

Hi, the tone is advertorial but you also need to establish that the subject of the article is notable - that he meets Wikipedia's inclusion criteria. Read about notability. If you can write the article in a neutral tone, and include references, request that it be reviewed at here. Thanks, JSFarman ( talk) 19:32, 16 July 2019 (UTC) reply
Just fyi I declined the speedy deletion request, since there is a claim of importance, which is a lower standard than notability. ---- Fabrictramp | talk to me 19:41, 16 July 2019 (UTC) reply
Thanks for letting me know Fabrictramp. JSFarman ( talk) 19:53, 16 July 2019 (UTC) reply

Rajesh Khanna MD Page

I used the ADVT tag and i hope the community with help. Plus i will gather more information to solve this issue. Please support me as i am very old contributer to wikipedia. Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pankaj verma 23 ( talkcontribs) 19:49, 16 July 2019 (UTC) reply

RAJESH KHANNA MD - More details.

He is a notable person and if you view Corbin Bleu and Brenda song american stars are his patients. He has done a lot for the los angeles. I will publish soon. He has done a lot for the community in Beverly Hills, Los Angeles and is all over the news and magazines and tv.

The article isn't marked to be deleted, so you can continue to work on it. If you can add references (articles about Dr. Khanna) it will be all good. JSFarman ( talk) 19:56, 16 July 2019 (UTC) reply

Speedy deletion of Mount Seldom Records article

You marked my article for Mount Seldom Records for deletion due to it not being significant enough. Would not a label that distributes music from a notable artist like Crywank be considered significant enough for inclusion here? Eric684 ( talk) 19:59, 16 July 2019 (UTC) reply

Hi Eric684, I would think so -- I mean, CRYWANK!-- but my opinion isn't relevant. It's all about Wikipedia guidelines. Can you add references? See inclusion criteria. JSFarman ( talk) 20:17, 16 July 2019 (UTC) reply
I had a couple in the article: a podcast review and an entry on discogs. One of their releases was also reviewed on The Needle Drop [3], which a big deal in the indie world. Eric684 ( talk) 20:29, 16 July 2019 (UTC) reply

Rajesh Khanna MD - Notable Person

Sorry to disturb u again please see Corbin Bleu and Brenda Song videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80SyS_facWs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ciTeOirHe4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pankaj verma 23 ( talkcontribs) 20:00, 16 July 2019 (UTC) reply

Regarding Rajesh Khanna MD

Thanks a lot you helped a budding wikipedian. I will work more on it. Thanks a lot.

This also gives me energy to create more pages of doctors who serve our humanity and sometimes are hidden from the world eye. Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pankaj verma 23 ( talkcontribs) 20:32, 16 July 2019 (UTC) reply

Rajesh Khanna MD Page

Boss as you already know that i have added the Advt tag and ask for support from fellow wikipedians. You encouraged me a lot and thanks for ur support for helping a budding wikipedian. Regards Pankaj verma 23 ( talk) 22:34, 20 July 2019 (UTC) reply

Rajesh Khanna MD Page

I am a budding wikipedian. Just have to say that even My Lord Jesus Christ had to face the opposition as people were not able to see HIS real self.

You all guys are learned and i am not even 1% of your value. Even though recently i have completed my 100 edits on wikipedia and i feel awesome. I just request to see the person worth on the links like Google search... books... videos

Hope justice to my hardwork prevail and i have also placed the ADVT TAG which i received as info from wikipedia to add on page and ask for community support. Regards Pankaj verma 23 ( talk) 23:20, 20 July 2019 (UTC) reply

Pankaj verma 23, the issue with the article is that he does not meet notability. If he does not meet notability, the article will be deleted. It is not a matter of promotional language, advertising, or justice.
I would be happy to help you with another article. But please stop leaving me messages about Rajesh Khanna. Thanks. JSFarman ( talk) 00:45, 21 July 2019 (UTC) reply
Okay Thanks I hope for best. Pankaj verma 23 ( talk) 03:51, 21 July 2019 (UTC) reply

Sony Music Group

So answer this question. How come the news wasn't mentioned on the sites of Sony Music Entertainment and Sony/ATV Music Publishing including their social media accounts and Yahoo! Finance? I spent nearly 20 minutes searching and I got nothing. King Shadeed July 22, 2019 at 8:10 P.M.

I have no idea. I also came up with nothing when I searched for an official announcement. However, just because Sony didn't issue a press release about the merger doesn't mean that it didn't happen. As I noted, it was reported by multiple reliable sources. JSFarman ( talk) 02:55, 23 July 2019 (UTC) reply

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Horton Barker

Thank you for the encouraging note in review of the stub I created for Horton Barker. I saw just the briefest clip of him in Festival and I was a goner. High on my article To-Do list is finding a picture that's out of copyright. I have also found some other sources I will use to fill in more detail, soon. I hope you enjoy listening to Horton Barker. So far I can't listen to more than a song or two at a time, as his singing hits me so hard and so poignantly. Thanks again.

Also, if this comment would be better published to my own User talk page, my apologies. The "talk" functions, policies, and practicies in Wikipedia are still not clear to me. Gcampbel ( talk) 16:14, 10 September 2019 (UTC) reply

Hi Gcampbel and apologies on the delayed response. Glad you responded here because it will be great to reread your message the next time someone decides to leave me a less pleasant message!
I was so psyched to come across the article - I had never heard of him (and I listen to a ton of old music). I listened to his version of "Amazing Grace" and it totally killed me. He has such a powerful voice. From what I read he also has an amazing story.
Let me know if you need any help in your continued editing adventures, but it seems to me that you've done a great job figuring Wikipedia out! Best, Julie JSFarman ( talk) 00:53, 13 September 2019 (UTC) reply

Community Insights Survey

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New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019

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Backlog

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Coordinator

A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.

This month's refresher course

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.

Deletion tags

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Hello Rosie! I am trying to figure it out today. I want to be there! xoxo JSFarman ( talk) 14:41, 19 September 2019 (UTC) reply

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Mistake?

Hi there. Just alerting you to what happened when you made this edit. I presume that wasn't intentional? Cordless Larry ( talk) 20:26, 5 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Hello Cordless Larry! I'm seeing my commented related to the Alex Depledge deletion discussion. Maybe I'm having a cache issue? Or maybe my vision is even worse than I think it is? What are you seeing? (and thank you)! JSFarman ( talk) 20:47, 5 October 2019 (UTC) reply
The edit also restored several sections that had been archived, and deleted several newer sections. Cordless Larry ( talk) 20:53, 5 October 2019 (UTC) reply
AHA! Yes, def a mistake. I have no idea how that happened. I'll fix it! Thanks for letting me know. JSFarman ( talk) 20:55, 5 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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A barnstar for you!

The Editor's Barnstar
For your continued and tireless contributions to record label related articles and your pursuit at attaining the highest quality for them. We need more like you around here! Rob van vee 05:21, 30 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Jack Babuscio

Hi JSFarman! Thank you for your comments and guidance. I'm not sure if this is how I should be responding (I hope so!). I've only been contributing to Wikipedia for three weeks, so I'm very new here. I added a few additional sources today via academic sources (databases, journals, etc.) and a book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ageshow ( talkcontribs) 18:35, 31 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Hello Ageshow! This is definitely the right place to be responding, and welcome! You are doing amazingly well in navigating Wikipedia.
I started working on the article yesterday and then (as always) ran out of time/focus. Your sources are great, and more can be added. I think that the lead needs to specify why he is in Wikipedia - something that indicates his influence in the definition of camp. (It will need to come directly from a reliable source.)
Also, the BBC defines him as a queer film historian; I suspect that is how he described himself because the BBC doesn't generally take that kind of liberty. I think that should also be in the lead, or the infobox. But your call (although of course it can be changed by another editor).
I will go back to the article as soon as I'm able and hopefully we can move it into the article space. Let me know if you have questions, and again, thank you! So glad you're here. I hope you stick around. JSFarman ( talk) 16:29, 1 November 2019 (UTC) reply

New Page Review newsletter November 2019

Hello JSFarman,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.

Getting the queue to 0

There are now 809 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
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Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards.

Coordinator

Admin Barkeep49 has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers.

This month's refresher course

Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources.

Tools
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New Page Review newsletter December 2019

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Reviewer of the Year

This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.

Special commendation again goes to Onel5969 who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to Boleyn and JTtheOG who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

Top 10 Reviewers over the last 365 days
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1 Rosguill ( talk) 47,395 Patrol Page Curation
2 Onel5969 ( talk) 41,883 Patrol Page Curation
3 JTtheOG ( talk) 11,493 Patrol Page Curation
4 Arthistorian1977 ( talk) 5,562 Patrol Page Curation
5 DannyS712 ( talk) 4,866 Patrol Page Curation
6 CAPTAIN MEDUSA ( talk) 3,995 Patrol Page Curation
7 DragonflySixtyseven ( talk) 3,812 Patrol Page Curation
8 Boleyn ( talk) 3,655 Patrol Page Curation
9 Ymblanter ( talk) 3,553 Patrol Page Curation
10 Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 3,522 Patrol Page Curation

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

Redirect autopatrol

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by DannyS712 bot III.

Source Guide Discussion

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Hi, I got a message that you reviewed by Wikipedia article Robert Lewis Byington. Thanks for doing this. I appreciate the time you guys spend on Wikipedia. I was wondering if you could review a draft for me? It is at /info/en/?search=Draft:Elwood_Walter,_No._7. I have spend a lot of time updating this wiki page with more citations and linked to other pages, e.g. Pilot boat, Joseph Henderson (Pilot), etc. They suggested that I contact someone else to review the page since the review queue is so long. I thank you in advance, if you can review the "Elwood Walter, No. 7" page. Greg Henderson 21:25, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Greg. Thanks for the note and so sorry that you have been waiting for so long for the article to be reviewed. (Also thanks for the Robert Lewis Byington article.) I will do my best on the Elwood Walter article, but it is quite far out of my area of expertise, and it'll take me a while. Thanks for all of your effort, it's clear that you have put a lot of time into the articles. JSFarman ( talk) 16:41, 4 January 2020 (UTC) reply

draft article (Jennifer Zilm) your review 20 October 2019

hi -- happy new year! I'm a bit slow getting to this draft submission. I've read the relevant materials on notability, but I don't understand why Zilm doesn't qualify, as she has substantial (not passing) references to her work in both The Walrus (significant monthly Canadian literary/public affairs magazine) and Canadian Literature (a well-known academic literary review). She was also shortlisted for a significant poetry national Canadian award (Pat Lowther Award). The Canadian Literature and Walrus articles won't show up through a regular Google search -- they will show up if a database search is done through a library. Do the sources/references have to show up through a Google search to count? It would be somewhat rare for even many well-known, established Canadian poets to appear in Publisher's Weekly. Thanks for your help! cheers, Ktrainor7 ( talk) 20:45, 5 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi Ktrainor7 ( talk) and happy new year to you too.
I find that it can be very difficult for poets (and writers in general) to meet the notability criteria, and it's frustrating. There aren't a lot of publications that cover poetry and meet Wikipedia's definition of a reliable source. Fortunately references do not have to be online; just note the publication, name, writer, date of publication, etc. Enough info so that the assertions of the article can be verified. That said, I don't think being shortlisted for the Pat Lowther award goes to notability - the only shorlist slam dunks I can think of would be for the Pulitzer, National Book Award, Man Booker and the Nobel (although I am not sure if there is an official shortlist). Can you add whatever else you can find, online or off? I can re-review (or you can publish it directly). JSFarman ( talk) 00:39, 9 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Finis Conner

@ JSFarman: The facts simply do not support JSFarman's decline of this article. NY Times and Fortune Magazine articles qualify as significant independent coverage of Finis Conner by reliable secondary sources. His founding of three of the pioneering disk drive companies should more than qualify him as a subject for Wikipedia. We can replace the Wikifoundry references with RSs at which point the article should be acceptable. Tom94022 ( talk) 08:11, 8 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Good morning @ Tom94022:. For clarity's sake, at the time you submitted the draft, there were 13 references: Wikifoundry 3 times, a photo of Finis Conner, a press release serviced via Business Wire, the Conner website twice, two articles about the company (not the individual), and a Bloomberg "Are you a robot" landing page. If you can replace the Wikifoundry references with reliable sources please do so. However, with your new lede, I understand the basis of his notability, and another reviewer is likely to accept the article. JSFarman ( talk) 15:44, 8 January 2020 (UTC) reply
FWIW the 1990 Fortune article referenced is almost all about Finis and his career at Shugart, Seagate and Conner Peripherals. The Bloomberg reference when corrected is also mainly about Conner. Tom94022 ( talk) 17:27, 8 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Likewise the NY Times article is mostly about Finis. Tom94022 ( talk) 07:10, 9 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Also the Wikifoundry articles having been published by the Computer History Museum's Storage Special Interest Group are likely reliable sources. Tom94022 ( talk) 07:10, 9 January 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Tom94022: I added another New York Times ref and another Fortune ref as well as a Crain's ref about a company he founded in 2015. (Crains also wrote that Steve Jobs was his first customer: https://www.chicagobusiness.com/awards/finis-conner) I resubmitted the article on your behalf, but couldn't accept it (through AfC) because a Finis Conner redirect is blocking a move to the mainspace. (I requested that the redirect be deleted). JSFarman ( talk) 01:38, 10 January 2020 (UTC) reply
@ JSFarman: Thanks for all your help - can I delete this section as no longer relevant? I could archive it but why bother in keeping it? Yr recommendation? Tom94022 ( talk) 18:58, 10 January 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Tom94022:. My pleasure. Thanks for writing the article (and your perseverance). I agree that it doesn't need to be here but I am going to move it to my talk page. If only because it's evidence that AfC reviewers are truly interested in seeing worthy articles published! Thank you again. JSFarman ( talk) 20:53, 10 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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Ron Stone Photograph and Release

Hi JS -

Thanks so much for your kind effort to assist. I'm copying and pasting the photographers release and uploading the headshot of Ron Stone to be included on his Wikipedia page, which is:

/info/en/?search=Ron_Stone_(music_industry_executive)

I uploaded the image, but don't see it appearing here. Thanks so much for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richardstellar ( talkcontribs) 12:11, 30 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi, in order to use the photo the photographer needs to sign off on the complete release and send it to permissions-en@wikimedia.org. You can find it here: Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries. Also - for future ref - you don't want to leave personal email addresses on talk pages! JSFarman ( talk) 17:16, 31 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Please don't copy and paste text to new titles

I'm having to clean up a few messes you made with Wynter Gordon/ Diana Gordon (singer) and related articles. Please do not move articles by copy and pasting the text, because the edit history is lost in the process. — C.Fred ( talk) 14:15, 31 January 2020 (UTC) reply

@ C.Fred: Hi and thank you! I did not think that one through - another learning experience (which I really should have figured out). Thank you thank you thank you - that was a ton of cleanup. JSFarman ( talk) 16:24, 31 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Do you think that this draft should be accepted? If so, I will move the redirect; please let me know whether you want help. Robert McClenon ( talk) 16:31, 5 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi Robert and thanks for asking - I would appreciate your help with the redirect. The draft should be accepted; they meet notability, although more refs can still be added. (They're just a grind to find - mostly from offline sources such as books and old newspapers and magazines.) Thanks again! JSFarman ( talk) 17:41, 5 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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Covered bridges in Connecticut

Thanks for moving my article into the main article space, but I actually had intended to do more work on it before publication. No problem, though, I will continue to work on it there. fixing the title of my article, which I thought I had created in user space. However, it should technically be titled, "List of covered bridges in Connecticut" to follow the naming convention of corresponding articles for other states. If you could move it to that name without creating a link having the current name, that would be great. Waz8: T- C- E 19:39, 19 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi Waz8: T- C - Sorry about that! It was actually already in the main space - I will move it back to draft (where you can change the name as well). Thanks for writing the article; I'm a New Englander and I love those bridges! JSFarman ( talk) 21:03, 19 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Thanks, I will continue to work on it there then move it to the main article space with the appropriate name. I've always been fascinated by bridges, especially the covered ones. There are quite a few pictures of them in my bridge gallery. Waz8: T- C- E 22:27, 19 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Hello, Thank you for the comments on my draft article Samora Smallwood. I am attempting to edit it and I'm very new at this. Can you tell me what you mean by 'remove the links in the body of the article.' Samdal35ton ( talk) 04:52, 26 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Link to article: /info/en/?search=Draft:Samora_Smallwood

Thank you,

Karen

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Hi Karen ( talk) and thanks for persevering!
Links within the articles should only lead to other Wikipedia articles - those are Wikilinks. For example, the wikicode for my user page is [[User:JSFarman|Julie Farman]], not [/info/en/?search=User:JSFarman Julie Farman ] , which renders as Julie Farman, not Julie Farman If an article exists on Wikipedia, you can Wikilink it, but if there's no article, it should just appear in plain text. The only time users should be taken off Wikipedia is via references and through the external links that are included at the end of most articles. Hope that helps, and feel free to ping me if you need more help! JSFarman ( talk) 17:36, 26 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Please note that I reverted your addition of a date of birth to Cara Buono as the date has been disputed (see the related discussions on the article talk page) and you didn't provide the reliable sources required for a date to be included as required by policy. Could you advise which source you used for the date? Thank you, -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 22:32, 21 May 2020 (UTC) reply

I just checked out the talk page and the history and I'm cracking up. I thought it was such an innocuous edit! (I used Playbill as it is generally reliable.)
I want to expand the article but I won't add a DoB when I do -- I just tried to find a solid reference and as far as I can tell nothing ironclad exists. (Is the DoB controversy what the article is semi-protected?) JSFarman ( talk) 02:22, 22 May 2020 (UTC) reply
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Hello, John, I had created a wikipedia draft and submitted it. Its has not been reviewed for almost 3 months. Please could you help and review the draft /info/en/?search=Draft:Adeeb_Ahamed. Thank you very much. ( Kuruvillac ( talk) 14:47, 17 August 2020 (UTC)) reply

Draft:Cheryl_Hsieh

Hello JSFarman, I've modified the draft page according to your advice. Please let me know if it's ok now. Thank you so much for your time. /info/en/?search=Draft:Cheryl_Hsieh NepotismTW ( talk) 13:30, 29 August 2020 (UTC) reply

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Draft:Tehama Inc.

Thanks, User:JSFarman, for reviewing this page, and for the information re the acceptability of crunchbase as a reliable source. I'm working to find alternate sources to substitute for those.

I'm curious about why WP views cruchbase so. Can you elucidate? WP's page on it reports: "Crunchbase sources its data in four ways: the venture program, machine learning, an in-house data team, and the Crunchbase community. Members of the public can submit information to the Crunchbase database. These submissions are subject to registration, social validation, and are often reviewed by a moderator before being accepted for publication."

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Hi Picky Weeds. Crunchbase isn't a reliable source; the content is not uniformly vetted. "Crunchbase sources its data in four ways: the venture program, machine learning, an in-house data team, and the Crunchbase community. Members of the public can submit information to the Crunchbase database. These submissions are subject to registration, social validation, and are often reviewed by a moderator before being accepted for publication." See guidance here. JSFarman ( talk) 20:36, 10 September 2020 (UTC) reply
Thanks again, JSFarman. I notice that on many pages for companies and corporations, the kind of basic info as appears in the Infobox, is referenced to the organization's own website, e.g. Shopify. Are citations such as these considered acceptable, or are such pages merely getting away with it? -- Picky Weeds ( talk) 18:23, 14 September 2020 (UTC) reply
Sorry Picky Weeds, I only just saw this message. I believe that it's ok to use primary sources for very basic info and I can't find a policy that says otherwise. The only times that I remember seeing citation needed templates have been on BLPs, and usually it's to verify dates of birth. JSFarman ( talk) 04:57, 7 October 2020 (UTC) reply

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Speedy deletion declined: Billycart Kids

Hello JSFarman. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Billycart Kids, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The page was only recently made promotional, so instead of deleting it, I reverted it to the previous non-promotional version. Thank you. Jackmcbarn ( talk) 04:02, 7 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Jackmcbarn, Thank you for letting me know. I should have looked at the history, particularly since it blew my mind that the article had survived for 10 years. My faith has once again been restored! JSFarman ( talk) 04:52, 7 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Draft:Global Task Force for Public Media

Hello JSFarman,

Just wondering if you'd be able to review my new draft for the Global Task Force for Public Media. You originally declined it on June 24, because the sources used were not independent from the Task Force. Since then, I replaced all the sources by independent ones. Does it meet the inclusion criteria as it is now?

I re-submitted it for review in late July. I was wondering if you'd be able to help move things along.

Thank you,

Julien.faille ( talk) 15:06, 16 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi Julien.faille. Can you give it an edit for neutrality? (Not that much needs to change. The article just needs to have a completely NPOV.) Sources look good. Sorry for the delay! JSFarman ( talk) 16:33, 19 October 2020 (UTC) reply
Hello JSFarman, and thanks for your help on this! I followed up on your advice and made some further edits to the draft to make its tone neutral. Would you mind taking one more look? If there's any specific part that still lacks neutrality, please point it out so that I can adjust as needed. Thanks again! Julien.faille ( talk) 20:03, 20 October 2020 (UTC) reply
Hi again Julien.faille. I did a minor copy edit and accepted the article. I'm not entirely sure it will stick -- the article is more about intentions than it is about actions -- but I'm not sure there's a policy that addresses that particular issue. Thanks for your patience! JSFarman ( talk) 03:49, 21 October 2020 (UTC) reply
Thank you for your edits, JSFarman. The format of the article makes much more sense as it is now. Julien.faille ( talk) 13:23, 21 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Travis Montaque Wiki Page

Hi!

Thank you for your review of my Wiki article. I understand how it could read not as neutral as it should be. If this topic is not heavily sourced online, do you suggest keeping the article even shorter than it is now? Is it ok to keep the links to articles (like the one in Fortune Magazine, etc.) or should those be taken out too?

I know you mentioned the tone of the article as well. Any suggestions (like an example sentence change) of how I could do that? That would be super helpful!

This is the draft for reference: /info/en/?search=Draft:Travis_Montaque

Thanks again.

My Best, CRP5649 — Preceding unsigned comment added by CRP5649 ( talkcontribs) 13:15, 19 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi CRP5649. There's more about his life in the references you used that can be added to the draft. I would add whatever is relevant (nothing trivial) as otherwise the article will lean toward hype. I would also avoid words live "pivoted" or "rebranded" as they add to the impression that the article is marketing. It will help if look at other bios, and follow the format that is generally used. Guidance is here. Hit me back if you have more questions or are ready for a re-review. Thanks! JSFarman ( talk) 17:04, 19 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi JSFarman, back again because I just re-submitted my Wiki page. I took your notes and resources into account to make it more neutral, add more about Travis' life from the sources, and get rid of some unnecessary sources, words, and details. Please let me know if you'd be able to re-review this piece and let me know if I need to do anything else! Thank you - CRP5649 — Preceding unsigned comment added by CRP5649 ( talkcontribs) 20:30, 21 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi JSFarman - just wanted to see if there were any updates on the approval of my Wiki? thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by CRP5649 ( talkcontribs) 15:56, 27 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi CRP5649 and apologies on the delay.
I did an edit on the article and added some info and refs. I think it's good to go but let's give it a couple of days to see if someone else reviews and accepts it. (I don't consider myself entirely neutral at this point - he seems like a superstar!) JSFarman ( talk) 00:50, 28 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Thank you so much! Really appreciate you taking the time to make edits to this! — Preceding unsigned comment added by CRP5649 ( talkcontribs) 14:10, 28 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Just one more question @JSFarman - i have a photo to upload, but I read up on the copyright rules with Wiki and I'm not sure if it will be accepted. Should I hold off on uploading a photo? I don't want it to ruin my chances of getting the article accepted. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by CRP5649 ( talkcontribs) 14:35, 28 October 2020 (UTC) reply

My pleasure (re helping).
The copyright owner of the photo needs to sign off on a release in order to use the photo - you want to make sure you're all clear before you upload it. [[Here's the license. Having a photo won't impact your review. Def get the permission first! JSFarman ( talk) 21:37, 28 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi @JSFarman ... do you have any insights into the approval process for this one? It doesn't seem to be re-reviewed since October. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by CRP5649 ( talkcontribs) 15:27, 26 January 2021 (UTC) reply

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Hi. Can you take another look at Draft:Jordan Cohen, since he now meets our N standard for basketball? Thanks. -- 2604:2000:E010:1100:A162:CEEA:904E:E402 ( talk) 19:49, 21 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi. When I reviewed the draft it wasn't related to basketball, which is an area I know nothing about. I'm the wrong person to re-review. Sorry. (Maybe ask at Wikipedia:WikiProject Basketball?) JSFarman ( talk) 22:18, 22 November 2020 (UTC) reply
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Thanks for the feedback but I need clarifications

Hi JSFarman,

I appreciate your feedback but I need more clarifications as stated below:

1. "References need to be independent of S.K. Nayar." Most everything placed as references are from external, reliable sources such as, established newspapers (Hindu) a national daily in India. Also, other references pertain to legitimate websites with specific biographies and writeups on the subject by verifiable sources. (Kerala Sahitya Akademi, University of Madras, Asan Memorial etc.)


2. Can you place the references that are valid after the assertions they support? Do you mean each citation needs to be at the end of the line and not specifically where the word is referenced? (Pl clarify and point to a good example versus a bad example on my page.)

3. I changed the caption (The Quintessential Teacher) to S.K. in 1980 to make it neutral.

I will be happy to make alterations and edit further as needed.

Thanks!

Lnayar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lnayar ( talkcontribs) 23:56, 30 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi Lnayar,
I rejected the article based on notability; the other comments were intended to provide more guidance.
To establish notability, extensive coverage via independent, reliable sources is required. I can't get to the Hindu Times - the article is behind a paywall, but most of the other refs merely mention his name, or include him on a list, or link to a catalogue listing. (The University of Madras ref links to an online payment site for the school.) Anything that he wrote or was affiliated with an organization he was involved with is not independent, and many of the refs are via sources that are unlikely to be considered reliable.
The citations should immediately follow the statement it supports. For example, the entire Honors and Awards section is uncited - you would need a citation that specifically confirms that he received each of the awards. There is a *lot* of the article that is uncited. (Take a look at Harry Brand, which is the article I'm most proud of writing. You'll see that every statement can be verified via an independent, reliable source.)
If you can find valid references, I will be happy to help you! I know you have put a lot of effort into the article. JSFarman ( talk) 03:02, 1 December 2020 (UTC) reply

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I'm contacting you about an article that you declined to publish that I created. The article in question is Draft:Dez_Cleo ( /info/en/?search=Draft:Dez_Cleo), I've provided links to independent websites citing articles about Dez Cleo as either an interview of the artist or a review of her music, I'm not sure sure why these are not being considered as reliable and failing the 'significant coverage' criteria. I have noticed other articles that have been apparently approved with less or similar citations on Wikipedia, I have listed these below. Clarifications on why some of these pages' citations are only from IMDB and considered 'Reliable' and not why that same criteria isn't being used to justify my article would be very helpful in understanding this ambiguous approval process.

Thank You.

Stacy Edwards Aviva Baumann Steve Bannos Mac McDonald — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hunar118 ( talkcontribs) 02:32, 4 December 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi Hunar118,
I read the draft, and given her history, I was surprised by the lack of coverage -- I did a search and didn't come up with much of anything beyond what you used. An argument could be made that she meets notability based on her inclusion on the Fright Night 2 soundtrack, or that she was signed to Hollywood, but I don't think those are strong claims.
The sources you used are Buzz Music, Skope Entertainment Inc and AVA Live Music. Buzz appears to be advertorial, Skope is a full-service music based media company that can be hired, and I couldn't get a handle on AVA Live Music. Here's more information on reliable sources. Also, if the bulk of an article is an interview, the source isn't considered independent. (I don't agree with that, but it's all about consensus around here.)
The approval process isn't ambiguous. Although there is room for interpretation, the the notability criteria is clearly defined. As for the articles you mentioned, keep in mind that there are 6.1 million articles on the English Wikipedia, and I'm sure many thousands are on on subjects that don't meet the inclusion criteria. It's just that they've gone unnoticed. That said, I tagged Aviva Baumann, Steve Bannos, and Mac McDonald; you are absolutely correct in your assessment. (Stacy Edwards won an Independent Spirt Award, and major awards confirm notability).
Dez Cleo recently released new music, and I would think that more coverage is forthcoming! Maybe it's just too early.
I hope that this helps. If you need more info -- or if you resubmit the article with more sources -- feel free to ping me.

Thanks! Julie JSFarman ( talk) 01:12, 5 December 2020 (UTC) reply

Review of new page: EIP (law firm)

Hi Julie! You recently reviewed my submission for EIP which wasn't accepted owing to the lack of corporate notability. I'd be super grateful if you can give me your opinion on a couple of points below.

a) I used the primary criteria check box tool to see if the references establish corporate notability. Can you please let me know which criteria were not met in the references and, if any, which references were best? b) I have noticed that most comparable firms with articles have references that don't seem to meet the corporate notability criteria. Take Bristows for example (but it's true for almost every article in the IP firm category too!). The references are of awards and rankings, mentions in court cases, and content from the company website - coverage that EIP appears to have in similar abundance. Should any of these IP firms have Wikipedia articles based on the guidelines or is there something I missed in my submission?

I think EIP needs an article, so I really appreciate your time and any thoughts/advice you have. Cheers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hambroave ( talkcontribs) 08:36, December 7, 2020 (UTC) & — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hambroave ( talkcontribs) 08:39, December 7, 2020 (UTC)

Hi. :The Legal Business reference is valid, as it provides extensive coverage specifically about the firm. I can't get to the Times article (paywall), but WP requires multiple references, so IMHO it's not relevant -- two references are not sufficient to meet the general notability guide or the inclusion criteria for companies). Also note that references need to be independent; the Bath article is dependent on a press release. (The quotes are via a prepared statement.) Which of the primary criteria does the company meet? I'm happy to re-review. (Keep in mind that the coverage needs to be non-trivial -- a sentence or two does not suffice.)
As for your concern about other articles, see my response above. Comes up all the time, that one. Consider them tagged. :Thanks for your contribution. I am quite interested in IP and it was interesting to read about a few of these cases. JSFarman ( talk) 17:28, 7 December 2020 (UTC) reply
WOW - the IP law firm articles are garbage. I see why the decline didn't make sense given the existing articles. JSFarman ( talk) 04:57, 8 December 2020 (UTC) reply

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Dianna Cohen (activist) moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Dianna Cohen (activist), does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. ( ?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed ( verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. JSFarman ( talk) 01:44, 16 December 2020 (UTC) reply

When you don't realize an article has already been written. AND nominated for deletion.

I would like to comment on the Dianna Cohen article -- for what it is worth I vote to KEEP the article, and I want to help work on it. Dianna Cohen is a major figure in the environmental activism world. I can provide MUCH more information than is currently on the site. I was not trying to start a new article on DEc 16, but add to the one that is there already, because I could see it was really deficient. Jaws525 ( talk) 17:07, 22 December 2020 (UTC)jaws525 reply

Jaws 535, you can edit however you see fit. And by all means add more info - that's what Wikipedia is about. Just be sure that whatever you add is verifiable, neutral, and written in an encyclopedic tone. The message you're seeing above is a message I sent myself, albeit unintentionally - it has nothing to do with you. JSFarman ( talk) 17:27, 22 December 2020 (UTC) reply

MusiCure draft review

Thanks for your comments regarding the MusiCure draft. I have changed the description. Please see my comment there. Thank you! Cookerid ( talk) 14:48, 17 December 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi Cookerid. I rewrote the lead and left some notes on the draft.
It is not relevant to reviewing the article, but for the record, my dad died recently, and music was essential to keeping him comfortable. So I completely believe in the concept.
That said, given that MusiCure produces and sells music and accessories, it's a company. Unless it's a non-profit, that's the way it should be described. If you're using research conducted by Musica Humana, it's not an independent source. And the way that it's presented in the article reads as promotional. (Please note that neither the article on Musica Humana or the composer are properly referenced and are susceptible to deletion.)
I wasn't able to find references via reliable, independent sources; can you add them? See notability guidelines for companies. If you resubmit the draft you will need to adhere to the guidelines for companies. Also give writing better articles a read. (I just read it for the first time in a while -- it really is helpful.)
Thanks for the diligence and for the contribution. JSFarman ( talk) 16:48, 17 December 2020 (UTC) reply
Thanks so much for your comments. My condolences for the loss of your father. I'm glad that music helped. Re your recommendations, I do support them fully, I'm just a bit stuck. I have tried only to quote studies made by third-party organisations, and not Musica Humana, specifically as they cannot be seen as independent. These are basically the only third-party references I have. It's a curious product, which I came across many years ago. It seems to have a specific and documented reach, but admittedly in the Scandinavian region. I really don't have any skin in the game though, and just wondered if I could help document what they did. Thanks again. I'll keep learning and see if I can improve anything. Cookerid ( talk) 14:25, 22 December 2020 (UTC) reply

Well done! I think you know that I have a disabled son who benefited from his work. It is always a pleasure to read your articles. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:56, 17 December 2020 (UTC) reply

My sister taught special ed in Cambridge for almost 30 years; she thought his contributions were absolutely essential. Thank you! This one was a pleasure to write all the way through. Someday I will expand it. JSFarman ( talk) 18:03, 17 December 2020 (UTC) reply

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MEL Magazine

Hi JSFarman,

You accepted Draft:MEL Magazine, but marked the wrong page for deletion ( Mel Magazine.) I've CSD'd both, and moved the article to the correct page - hope you don't mind. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ( talkcontribs) 15:22, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply

Hello Lee Valenski, Don't mind at all! Thank you for sorting it out and thank you for letting me know. JSFarman ( talk) 15:26, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply

Draft: Aztec Records

Hello JSFarman, I am a Spanish publisher with a lot of interest in music. I have contributed to improve the draft: Aztec Records, in which also Doomsdayer520 has helped me, who has been reviewing it little by little and helping me in the format, type of text etc. (You can see it here: /info/en/?search=User_talk:Doomsdayer520#Record_Labels%3A_Hispavox) As you are a music expert, can you review the draft and, if you think it's right, publish it? thanks a lot -- RafiUbeda ( talk) 17:36, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply

Hi RafiUbeda. There hasn't been enough coverage specifically about the label to meet the inclusion criteria. Articles about artists, including LAU (despite her involvement with the label) don't go towards notability; interviews without substantial editorial aren't considered independent. (FWIW, I don't agree with that assessment.) Sources need be independent -- which means no user-generated content (Discogs, Mixcloud) -- and reliable (which disqualifies Vents). I am going to decline the draft, but ping me when you've added references and I'll rereview ASAP. Thanks for asking and please let me know if you need help! JSFarman ( talk) 17:12, 6 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Hi RafiUbeda. There hasn't been enough coverage specifically about the label to meet the inclusion criteria. Articles about artists, including LAU (despite her involvement with the label) don't go towards notability; interviews without substantial editorial aren't considered independent. (FWIW, I don't agree with that assessment.) Sources need be independent -- which means no user-generated content (Discogs, Mixcloud) -- and reliable (which disqualifies Vents). I am going to decline the draft, but ping me when you've added references and I'll rereview ASAP. Thanks for asking and please let me know if you need help! JSFarman ( talk) 17:14, 6 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Hi JSFarman Thanks anyway JSFarman, I know that with everyone's help a good encyclopedia is being created. If I find more related news I will try again and let you know, -- RafiUbeda ( talk) 10:42, 7 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Hi JSFarman I've been searching these days about what I could find of Aztec Records on the net and I found many references; all of them are independent and from the music world. I have also discovered that there is a section for Latin music, with several albums released. I'm going to ask for help on the wiki project. I will add all these references to the talk page of the draft. Here I send you the link to that page, and I will try, with the help of other wikipedians, to improve the article. Thank you very much for your collaboration, -- RafiUbeda ( talk) 09:46, 15 January 2021 (UTC) reply

On Hester Diamond

I'm not sure this is the right, or best forum, but huge THANK YOU for the amazing work yesterday to create a wonderful page devoted to this overlooked woman in the arts. I'll probably tinker with it in the days coming up, but this is an amazing foundtion -- and done within hours of my tiny, lame appeal. Stunning, really. One wonders how you found the request, and how you gathered so much good information in such a short time, then composed a fine page. Many thanks. Johannes der Taucher ( talk) 13:59, 15 January 2021 (UTC) reply

Hi Johannes der Taucher and thank you! Great message to wake up to.
I came across the article about the auction in the New York Times, and despite being a Beasties fan for more than 30 years (OMG) I knew nothing about Mike D's mother. I added some info to the article on him just after you did, and saw your edit summary about designating Hester as a Woman in Red. I had actually been thinking the same thing; it blew me away that there wasn't already an article given her prominence.! That said, PLEASE tinker with it! There's a lot that I don't understand about that world; perhaps you can flesh out/explain the Barbara Hepworth deal? And add more about her collection? Her philanthropy? And whatever else is missing. There is a ton of great source material if you dig for it. Thank you so very much! JSFarman ( talk) 17:38, 15 January 2021 (UTC) reply

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Thanks so much for looking over the draft of Johnny mcGhee Trumpeter /info/en/?search=Draft:Johnny_McGhee . I hope this is the right place to ping you a message that I have now made the suggested amendments and added the verifiable sources.This is my first article so I'm really grateful for your feedback. 15700Cathy 15700cathy ( talk) 11:17, 8 April 2021 (UTC) reply

My pleasure, 15700cathy. And yes, this is the right place to leave a message. I'll take a look this afternoon. You've done a great job with it - amazing that it's your first! Thanks for writing the article - I didn't know about him and after reading the draft I was like "I can't believe there's not already an article!" Thanks for the message also. JSFarman ( talk) 17:16, 8 April 2021 (UTC) reply

Johnny McGhee

Thank you so much for your review. So pleased he is remembered beyond vinyl and his wah wah sound has been attributed to a remarkable understated but seminal musician.Off to celebrate the approval with a play of Cow Cow Boogie :) All best wishes 15700Cathy 15700cathy ( talk) 22:57, 11 April 2021 (UTC) reply

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPJnoUQH7Zk - Johnny MCGhee @1min 24 :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 15700cathy ( talkcontribs) 23:04, 11 April 2021 (UTC) reply

15700cathy - Thanks! Such a great song (and new to me).
I've been doing a bit more research - it appears that he was more well known as a coronet player? (And that he had a tagline: Johnny McGhee and his Singing Coronet.) Thanks for writing the article. (My Dad was a huge fan of 30s music - it's so cool to discover new artists.) Hope you stick around! There are a lot of articles that need to be written.  :) Julie JSFarman ( talk) 23:42, 11 April 2021 (UTC) reply

Draft: Derek Jones (bassist)

Hi JSFarman! I hope this is the right place to contact you. You recently gave me some very valuable feedback about a page that I'm trying to create about the bassist Derek Jones. My submission was denied, but I believe I've addressed the issues, mainly providing more outside sources. Would you be able to take a look at the page again and see if I really did fix the issues? I just don't want to submit the draft again, get denied, and have the page deleted. Here is the link: /info/en/?search=Draft:Derek_Jones_(bassist)

Thank you so much in advance!

Hello Argoarts and thanks for your kind and happy message. So rare when an article is declined.
So, bad news/good news. The bad news is that you're still lacking the extensive coverage required -- you should go for at least three articles via independent reliable sources that provide extensive coverage of Derek Jones specifically. References via his label or products he endorses don't establish notability. Listings don't provide the extensive coverage necessary.
The good news is that the draft won't be deleted unless you stop working on it for six months or longer. And even then, you can easily request that it be undeleted. Keep searching if you have the heart for it and please ping me if/when you find the references required and I'll review the article ASAP.
Thanks again for the message! JSFarman ( talk) 18:42, 13 April 2021 (UTC) reply

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Dianna Cohen

Hi,

I tried to be very factual, I took your feedback into account. Can you please explain to me how I can factual report that Dianna Cohen was interviewed in a Seaspiracy about the fishing equipment plastic? She is the CEO of one of the major NGO on that topic and the documentary was part of the top 10 views of Netflix. I fail to understand why that would be a poor source, why that would be defamatory if I only report what the documentary shows. Finally everybody seems to be ok to mention that Dianna Cohen surfs even though she is hardly important in the surfing community, however you don't think it's important to mention her view on plastics, even though she is an important figure in the movement to remove plastic from our lives? Help me understand please instead of threatening me. Accolondegaule ( talk) 11:20, 17 April 2021 (UTC) reply

Accolondegaule, again: please read references, neutrality, and biographies of living people. Your edits were not neutral and they were poorly referenced. I understand that you believe you were being factual but if you want to understand Wikipedia, read the articles linked above. If you still don't understand why your edits were problematic I'd be happy to explain, as would other editors. But give the guidance a shot. It's pretty clear. JSFarman ( talk) 15:50, 17 April 2021 (UTC) reply
User:JSFarman, Thank you for your answer. I read the guidelines. I understand that the tone of what I initially wrote was wrong. I do feel that the fact that she was interviewed and the fact that her organization focuses on consumer plastic and not fishing equipment plastic fits the guidelines and since she is a public figure leading an organization focusing on plastics in the ocean it is worth mentioning. I'm not sure that Netflix documentaries can be considered a reputable source in general but plenty of documentaries on Netflix are referenced on Wikipedia so I assumed it was, especially if being careful about the wording. Finally I feel that oceanic pollution and how NGOs are addressing the issue is a Wikipedia worthy subject. Could you please help me write it in the best simple manner.


Accolondegaule, hi.
In my opinion, reliable sources are objective, and documentaries (the good ones anyway) always have a point of view. I'm sure docs have been used as sources on Wikipedia, but being used in one article doesn't mean it's ok to use them in another article. (See Other stuff exists.)
I tried to find valid sources that would support the content that you want to add, but didn't come up with much of anything. From The Guardian to the New York Times, the consensus is that the film is misleading. In Vox, the unquestionably credible Daniel Pauly wrote "'Seaspiracy' does more harm than good. It takes the very serious issue of the devastating impact of industrial fisheries on life in the ocean and then undermines it with an avalanche of falsehoods. It also employs questionable interviewing techniques, uses anti-Asian tropes, and blames the ocean conservation community, i.e., the very NGOs trying to fix things, rather than the industrial companies actually causing the problem."
Based on the sources, you can't adhere to Wikipedia guidelines while implying Dianna Cohen, as the head of the Plastic Pollution Coalition, is somehow in the pocket of the fishing industry or state that the organization is questionable in their motives.
That said, I admire your resolve and your determination to do Wikipedia the right way. I'm sure there are other articles that you can contribute to and improve, and if you need help, I'm all about it. JSFarman ( talk) 01:31, 19 April 2021 (UTC) reply

JSFarman Ok, I understand. Just to be clear, not once did I think that she was in the pocket of the fishing industry, but simply that her priorities were wrong. That said, I hear your point about the reliability of the documentary and will let it go.

Accolondegaule, I hope you stick around. If you're interested in contributing further, check out Wiki for Human Rights Challenge - there are articles that need to be written that you might be interested in. Thanks for being open minded and hope to cross paths again. JSFarman ( talk) 15:46, 21 April 2021 (UTC) reply

Chuck Crisafulli page

Hi JSFarman, I'm only now catching up on my Wiki projects and saw your comments. I feel stuck at the moment in my work on the page and wondered if you may be able to give me a hand with changing some of the language? I read through the link you sent over, but I really seem to be struggling to see how to formalise some of my language used. I've changed the structure of the page today, so the Critical Reception isn't interwoven in the main body. Hopefully this formalises the page a touch and makes it seem more impartial (as it is). I realise you mentioned that you knew Chuck in another lifetime, so I wouldn't ask you to edit any of the actual content, but just grammatically and syntactically it would be so helpful! If not, do not worry. Have a lovely day!

Hi Morral08 and apologies for the delay. I haven't been online a lot recently. Chuck's article needs an edit in tone - the article needs to be formal - but there aren't references that will establish his notability, so it's kind of a moot point. (References need to be independent - interviews generally don't qualify. Anything written by Chuck does not go towards notability.)
It is not an unusual situation! It's very difficult for writers (particularly journalists) to meet the inclusion criteria. There are so may journalists who should have articles but don't. It can be very frustrating (as I'm sure you have realized). JSFarman ( talk) 16:55, 4 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Delighted to see that Theroadislong accepted the article! Ecstatic to see Chuck in Wikipedia. JSFarman ( talk) 14:30, 11 May 2021 (UTC) reply

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Hi JSFarman, Thanks for your comment on /info/en/?search=Draft:Hayden_Pedigo! I think I've got all the external links cleaned up now. It's my first attempt at making an article on wikipedia and your comment & referring to the documentation really helped out. :) - V

Hi Varthlokur, Thanks for this message (which may be my favorite ever) and congratulations on your first article! I hope you stick around. JSFarman ( talk) 16:46, 23 July 2021 (UTC) reply

Question about Draft:We Plug Good Music

Hi there, thank you for your feedback on the page we're creating /info/en/?search=Draft:We_Plug_Good_Music

I have found a few more news articles to add to the page, what do you think. Can I add these? Also when I add these, can I leave the Guardian article or should I remove it? Any help would be much appreciated, thank you.

Complex - https://www.complex.com/pigeons-and-planes/2010/09/a-prelude-to-the-future-mixtape

Bella Naija - https://www.bellanaija.com/2010/09/we-plug-good-music-presents-a-prelude-to-the-future/

Flavour Magazine - https://www.flavourmag.co.uk/we-plug-good-music-free-download/

We Plug Good Music also has a Google knowledge panel if that is of any interest https://g.co/kgs/cBmSna

Ayo wpgm ( talk) 17:46, 23 July 2021 (UTC) reply

Hi Ayo wpgm,
First, if I am correct in assuming that your username translates to Ayo We Plug Good Music, you should read conflict of interest guidelines. Also, accounts ae not meant to be shared -- if more than one person is working on the article, each needs to have their own account -- see info on Wikipedia'shared account policy.
To meet the notability criteria, multiple references that provide non-trivial coverage specifically about We Plug Good Music via reliable, independent sources are required. That means the references can't be about records or artists or shows -- they have to be about the company. There is a lot of coverage related to A Prelude to the Future but WPGM isn't heavily referenced. I don't see any references that go toward the company's notability. ("Independent" and "reliable" are the key words here.) Maybe an article on Ayo? (Not saying that they would meet notability, just that it seems more likely based on my searches.)
It can be very difficult for companies (particularly marketing/branding/PR companies) to meet the notability criteria. That said, another reviewer might feel differently - articles that I've declined have been accepted by other reviewers several times. So: if you add the references (or do any substantial edit) you should resubmit. (The queue has gone way down at AfC - it will not take that long!) JSFarman ( talk) 17:30, 26 July 2021 (UTC) reply

Thank you JSFarman I have added a conflict of interest notice in my talk page following the guidelines as best as I understood them, thank you for your help. The coverage related to 'A Prelude to the Future' is a project that We Plug Good Music worked on, hence why the articles typically say We Plug Good Music presents 'A Prelude to the Future' but I appreciate your help and feedback and suggestions, I'll look to add more relevant articles taking note of your feedback and hopefully it is accepted Ayo wpgm ( talk) 17:40, 26 July 2021 (UTC) reply

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Walter The WonderDog

Hey — just stumbled upon your user page, and saw the picture of Walter. What a cute dog! :) And looks very similar to ours. What breed(s) is he? (Sorry, none of my business, of course, just being nosey. If you don't want to answer, no worries.) Cheers, -- DoubleGrazing ( talk) 10:34, 29 July 2021 (UTC) reply

Hello DoubleGrazing ( talk)! I LOVE Walter! He isn't my dog; he belongs to a friend but I like to pretend he's mine. He's a shih tzu poodle mutt mix. I have a chi/italian greyhound mix, Prince Jr., who is not nearly as photogenic as Walter but ridiculous nonetheless. (Prince Jr. was his shelter name - I kept it because it's so stupid.) What breed is your dog?!?
Just read your user page and it is so good to meet you. I have found that people who have been around Wikipedia since the early days are pretty cliquey and not entirely welcoming. Thank you for the message x 1000. JSFarman ( talk) 21:58, 29 July 2021 (UTC) reply
Thanks for responding, and good to meet you too (or should I say, you two... or three?)! Wow, wouldn't have guessed shih-dle (is that a word?) And Ital-chi, another interesting combo. (Oh and Prince Jr is such a cool name, I bet he prances around like the King-of-the-World-in-waiting that he no doubt is!) Ours is a Border collie x poodle (= bordoodle or colliepoo... somehow I prefer the former); quite small, much smaller than collie, but a very sassy girl; also, the cleverest member of the household, and doesn't she know it! :) Cheers, -- DoubleGrazing ( talk) 08:51, 4 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Hiya DoubleGrazing ( talk)! Bordoodle?!? Definitely better than Ital-chi, and way way better than Greyhuahua. I met a SaintBernaDoodle not too long ago, which, if nothing else, is fun to say. (He was massive.)
Sounds like your Bordoodle and Prince Jr. would get along famously! He is convinced that he is incredibly smart and I cant argue, given that he is an 11-pound dog who somehow became the Boss of Me. Oy! JSFarman ( talk) 18:27, 12 August 2021 (UTC) reply

New section

Following up on /info/en/?search=Draft:Jon_Myer

Thank you for walking this wet-behind-the-ears Wikipedia newbie through this process as I attempt to get this page published. I think I have done all proper attributions, but I could be wrong.

Jon Myer is my late father and I want to honor him without any bias. As a scientist he would have wanted nothing less.

Eric Meyer! Great edit and congratulations on your first article. I hope you stick around! JSFarman ( talk) 18:11, 4 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Thank you for all of your help! Eric Myer ( talk) 18:22, 4 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Spotify revision

Hi JSFarman,

Responding to your edits. I did not write or publish the quote you removed and am no longer associated with Spotify. That was submitted by a different contributor to Wikipedia. I made no contributions to the article, aside from adding the second founders name and cleaning up some punctuation/wording errors. Please revert to the previous version, as there was no conflict of interest or publishing of additional content.

Thanks so much,

sethfarbman

Sethfarbman ( talk) 16:08, 6 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Hi Sethfarbman ( talk), I googled you, you have an amazing history (and a ton of press) and I am now adding you to the list of articles that I want to write. That said, changing "mocked" to "shared" is not correcting wording and adding the Interbrand ranking is not a neutral edit. (Thanks for correcting the co-founder's name.)
The quote was an edit made by a sockpuppet (who is now blocked). If it added anything to the Spotify article I would restore it but in my opinion it does not. Feel free to request that it be restored on the talk page of the article. Thanks for the message! JSFarman ( talk) 16:28, 6 August 2021 (UTC) reply

AfC re-reviews

Hi! Thank you so much for doing the re-reviews. If I can make a request: would you mind signing your re-reviews? It confuses the bot, and SineBot doesn't touch those pages for some reason. Thanks! Enterprisey ( talk!) 08:29, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Hi Enterprisey ( talk!) - Sorry about that! I have some serious brain fog lately. So grand that I'm leaving evidence of it on Wikipedia, where it will be forever preserved. Thanks for being way more polite than you need to be (and for leading the backlog drive; the queue was mind-boggling.) JSFarman ( talk) 17:34, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply

COI Request to Improve Black Girls Rock!

Hello User:JSFarman. I work with Black Girls Rock!, and therefore have a conflict of interest (COI) relationship. The organization is now much more than an awards show, so this article is quite out of date. I believe in adhering to the Wikipedia rules, so I’m looking for an editor that can help me improve this page. I was wondering if you might find it a good use of your time to help with article improvements? I look forward to your reply. Thank you, G Smiley BGR ( talk) 16:29, 19 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Hi G Smiley BGR. It looks like my favorite new editor, SyLvRuUz, has edited the article. Thanks for asking! JSFarman ( talk) 16:49, 21 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Hello User:JSFarman. Thank you so much for your response! I have found a couple of editors interested in helping update the page. Have a good one. G Smiley BGR ( talk) 16:21, 9 September 2021 (UTC) reply

Sheila Schwartz page

Thanks for the compliment on this new page. Glad you liked it.

I came to it by reading a Dan Chaon novel, thinking about improving his page, and as I read about him realizing that his wife's page was inappropriately missing, with a lot to say there. I still may improve his page, later.

I suggested some to-dos on the talk page for Sheila - I generally don't mess with pictures & infoboxes, for example. Sullidav ( talk) 01:18, 20 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Hello again Sullidav,
Dan Chaon's article is in desperate need of an update. I did an edit on it a few years ago, and have added very basic information since, but there is so much more to his story.
I reviewed the article (so it will appear in search) and added an infobox. I also tweaked the first sentence to remove "prize winning" as I never perceive it as neutral. (Feel free to replace it, I thik it is a suggestion and a preference rather than a rule.) Dan Chaon and I are connected via Twitter; I will ask him for a photo of Sheila.
I read all of his short stories before I hit the novels. One short story changed my life; I quit smoking in part because of the succinct and powerful line about a character dying of lung cancer: "The cigarettes kept their promise." Ill Will (which also needs an article of its own) is one of the most harrowing and brilliant books I've ever read.
Hope our paths cross again! JSFarman ( talk) 17:03, 21 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Thanks, JSFarman. Thanks for the review & the infobox. Please let Dan C know about the page for Sheila - he's welcome to point out any errors, of which I'm sure there are some. I will rework his page sometime. I personally like "prizewinning" as a brief flag to reasons she is notable, but I see your point & could add a 2nd sentence to the lede with the details.
Sullidav ( talk) 05:34, 22 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Thanks again. I did the non-books half of my contemplated update/improvement to Dan Chaon's page. I welcome any reaction. There are a few more details I could add, and a few open questions noted on the talk page, before possibly sometime turning to the books half of that update.
So which of his books should I read next? I am thinking a book of stories, maybe Among the Missing. I had picked up Await Your Reply a year or two ago based on this blurb in a Cleveland alternative weekly, and its statement that two characters in the novel had attended the same middle and high schools that I did. And I finally got around to reading the book last week, now am ready for more. Sullidav ( talk) 15:28, 23 August 2021 (UTC) reply
@ Sullidav, Good morning (or afternoon in Cleveland). Just saw the Dan Chaon edit. So psyched to see the article growing. I did a minor edit; while Among the Missing was a National Book Award finalist, Ill Will was probably on of the most acclaimed books (by critics) of 2017. Odd that it appeared on so many "Best of" lists yet did not win any substantial prizes.
Love that you wnt to school with characters that appear the book! And what a great way to discover a writer. I found him because I read a review that compared him to some of my favorite writers: Lorrie Moore and Mary Gaitskill in particular.
If you appreciate dark writing/outlook, you will love Ill Will. But I also loved Fitting Ends (an easier read) and Stay Awake and You Remind Me of Me. I think I read them in order. He has a new book coming out next year. PHEW.
If you are on Twitter you should tweet him - @danchaon. I sent him an email but I'm not sure he ever reads the ones that are sent to the address on his website. We connected originaly b/c I tweeted that his photo was gonna be removed from Wikipedia! JSFarman ( talk) 16:53, 23 August 2021 (UTC) reply


Thanks, JSFarman. I no longer live in Cleveland Heights, but still get there several times per year to visit family.
If you are doing more edits, esp think about (& fix) the placement of the DNA para - I was not sure whether it fits better under childhood or personal life, and where in either section. I think it seems to distort either section a bit, but it does not warrant a new section.
And the awards list could be expanded to include the 3 Ill Will nominations - I was mostly using older sources and did not get to those. Sullidav ( talk) 17:51, 23 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Peter Arnell and Arnell Group

Hi Julie. I work for Peter Arnell, and recently created drafts for him and for Arnell Group. Of course, I can't publish them myself due to my COI, but am looking to collaborate with others to ensure the pages meet Wikipedia's standards. I noted that you are interested in media and advertising, and that you are very active in the new pages arena, so was hoping you could take a look. Thanks! Joanne PA ( talk) 15:06, 24 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Hi Joanne and sorry for the delayed response. I'll take a look at the articles again today - Peter Arnell has such a big story though - I think the article can be expanded biographically - not so interested in the awards (as a reader). Thank you for asking and for the transparency! JSFarman ( talk) 21:12, 26 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Hi again Joanne PA ( talk), the articles need a lot of work. They are essentially what Wikipedia is not in their current form. For example, the majority of the content in the Peter Arnell draft is the list of awards and the bibliography. Where's the Tropicana story? Where's the Pepsi story? Given your COI you may want to read about unintended consequences. JSFarman ( talk) 17:42, 4 September 2021 (UTC) reply
Hi Julie, so sorry for the delay. Thanks for your time and critical eye! I am more than happy to collaborate on these, and realize they will change from their existing form before they are worthy of inclusion. I am unsure where each of those stories should be included- on Peter's personal page, or on the company page? Am also not certain how they should be presented, as many sources read more as commentary than actual fact. Would love to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks again, Joanne PA ( talk) 14:04, 13 September 2021 (UTC) reply
@ Joanne PA ( talk), I left some suggestions on the draft. And since the press coverage re Pepsi and Tropicana is focused on his work, it should be in the article about him as well as in the company article. There are a ton of sources for both, and while I agree that much of the sources offer only commentary, you can just include the facts - The New York Times article covers both topics adequately. Otherwise see the notes - format the bibliography, lose the lesser known awards, create a chart for the Clios (or all of the awards). Don't cherry pick what you include and go for neutrality; as a COI editor the article needs to be bulletproof. (I have had almost every article I've submitted with a COI kicked back to me at last once.) JSFarman ( talk) 18:04, 15 September 2021 (UTC) reply
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-the-firing-of-weird-design-guru-peter-arnell-was-a-long-time-coming/ .... 0mtwb9gd5wx ( talk) 20:58, 18 September 2021 (UTC) reply
0mtwb9gd5wx ( talk), HAHAHAAHAHAH! That is hilarious. I don't know how I missed it. JSFarman ( talk) 21:17, 18 September 2021 (UTC) reply
That was at the top of a google search. .... 0mtwb9gd5wx ( talk) 21:20, 18 September 2021 (UTC) reply
0mtwb9gd5wx ( talk), Not for me. I got https://www.ahundredmonkeys.com/resources/peter-arnell-tries-his-hand-at-damage-control/, a blog post from A Hundred Monkeys, probably because I did some heavy searching on the company when their article was (much to my chagrin) (successfully) nominated for deletion. I'm still holding a grudge. JSFarman ( talk) 21:30, 18 September 2021 (UTC) reply
@ JSFarman: how far down is https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-the-firing-of-weird-design-guru-peter-arnell-was-a-long-time-coming/  ? 0mtwb9gd5wx ( talk) 21:32, 18 September 2021 (UTC) reply
@ 0mtwb9gd5wx:, Now it shows up at #2, but it didn't when I first searched - you know, the algo thing, Google fetches the results it thinks I want to see. Proof that Google knows nothing about me b/c that CBS story is exactly what I wanted to see. (I just searched via Duck Duck Go and it came up just after Peter Arnell's LinkedIn profile.) JSFarman ( talk) 21:48, 18 September 2021 (UTC) reply
@ JSFarman: you can set up Google search to give you 100 results per request. I saw on a SEO website &pws=1 removes personalization. .... 0mtwb9gd5wx ( talk) 22:01, 18 September 2021 (UTC) reply
Wolf, Mary Montgomery (2007). "We Accept You, One of Us?": Punk Rock, Community, and Individualism in an Uncertain Era, 1974—1985. doi: 10.17615/e26e-6m88. Retrieved 2015-08-17. dissertation, Ph.D., History PDF Open access
Hi @ 0mtwb9gd5wx: 394 pages. All of which I would love to read at some point; the author and I got to punk rock at about the same time. But, is Peter Arnell in it? Am I? Are you? Did you write it? JSFarman ( talk) 15:45, 23 September 2021 (UTC) reply
PS - how did you get to my talk page? And will you please stick around? Smiley face. JSFarman ( talk) 15:45, 23 September 2021 (UTC) reply
Julie, thanks so much for your help with this, and for leaving a fresh slate on the Talk page. Truly appreciated. Joanne PA ( talk) 18:50, 8 December 2021 (UTC) reply
Thanks JoanneThanks also for your perseverance, and for doing everything right! JSFarman ( talk) 04:30, 9 December 2021 (UTC) reply
Joanne: The edits you requested made me realize that leaving a "fresh slate" on the talk page was a disservice to other editors. JSFarman ( talk) 18:42, 26 December 2021 (UTC) reply

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Brody Brown

Hi there!

Thanks for creating a page for Brody Brown. How do you know him?

Cheers, MarioSoulTruthFan ( talk) 23:32, 29 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Hiya MarioSoulTruthFan and thank you. I was going to tell you that I was working on an article when we first crossed paths but I did not want you to feel obligated to help. I was so psyched when you did - there is not a lot of info out there about him. Which is strange given his credits.
I have lived and worked in the music business in LA for a gazillion years. I met Brody at a Grammy party a long time ago - I think it was a Cee Lo thing so maybe 2010? (I can't believe it's been that long.) I haven't seen him in a long time, but then again, nobody really invites me to those parties anymore.  :) JSFarman ( talk) 16:38, 30 August 2021 (UTC) reply
That wouldn't be a problem as I could maybe provide sources, but I believe you found everything. There is also an extensive interview on Youtube that he talks about his work. People behind-the-scenes don't get much credit.
That would be a dream job for me :D. Well, the Grammys for that song were back in 2011, since the song was released before in 2010 before the period "qualification" ended. Why are you not invited? Aren't you an executive producer? MarioSoulTruthFan ( talk) 17:15, 30 August 2021 (UTC) reply
MarioSoulTruthFan how did you get into Bruno Mars? Are there other artists you are as passionate about? (The articles related to Bruno are A+.)
I am exaggerating about not being invited to the Grammy parties - I still go -- but I blog and have alienated a good 80% of the music industry. This post was also reprinted in Hits. I was mostly joking but apparently not everyone figured that out.
I'm not an EP but I worked at E! as a talent producer for a long time. (I had a supervising producer credit on a Mariah special but other than that no big credits.) I was a publicist before that. And I booked a punk rock club in Boston before that! I started working in music when I was 17.
Do you live in LA, by any chance, and if so, are you over 21? If you are I will invite you to the next soiree that I am invited to with a + 1. Might not be until 2030, of course. JSFarman ( talk) 17:59, 31 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Well, it started back in 2010 with "Nothin' on You", and I thought "this guy is good". Then I saw some live shows I was mesmerized, he is a phenomenal performer. Nonetheless, I don't enjoy everything he releases. Not as passionate about it, but I do enjoy other musicians, from Akon to ZZ Top, as long as the music is good. (Thanks for the compliment, it is really appreciated.)
I read the post, outstanding writing skills. I'm not trying to assume anything, but I know the music industry can be very disappointing and money-driven. Well, I got it when you were talking about killing yourself three times in a row if you missed Fergie or Fitz and The Tantrums, despite the fact that the party at Atlantic sucks on the latter. Nonetheless, that's really fulfilling and exciting! Booking bands, writing music articles!
Unfortunately, I live in Europe. However, I'm over 21. Ahah, I guess I will have to wait for that soiree. MarioSoulTruthFan ( talk) 16:53, 1 September 2021 (UTC) reply

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Hi,

I have heavily edited this according to your rejection and note that it previously read like an advertisement.

I would appreciate if you could kindly relook at it.

Many thanks, Henry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FlowerHenry ( talkcontribs) 02:10, 12 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Hi FlowerHenry, thanks for the edit. I removed the Wikipedia ref and the Goodreads ref - neither are valid -- and accepted the article. I don't think it will survive if it is nominated for deletion, but thanks for your perseverance. JSFarman ( talk) 02:28, 12 October 2021 (UTC) reply

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Nocturnal Omissions (Band) - references

Hi Julie,

Please help me so that we can improve our sources to meet the base level to meet your criteria. All of our references except our band site and label are independent sources over which we have no influence. We were mentioned in two more online publications this week one in France and the other in Germany.

We keep getting: "None of the references currently used are valid; they must be via reliable, independent sources, and extensive coverage specifically about Nocturnal Omissions is required."

In an attempt to compare it against the artist with an album with our band name, We have significantly more independent sources.

For your requirements, we only really meet some: [Done] Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.[note 1] [Done] This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries[note 2] except for the

[We chose to remain on our own label, but we have released albums since 2002] Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable). -- Note our label only has two artists and has been around since 2018.

We have been featured on the radio in the UK, US and are currently in rotation in Brazil and on Latin America radio. - Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network. - Brazil and Columbia, a few weeks on one UK station. - Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network.

Allmusic.com also confirms that our discography is being added to their catalog and once up, I can reference that also.

As this becomes Dream So Real's only credible source, would it be an appropriate enough source for us to use?

Thanks, Dan — Preceding unsigned comment added by IndieArtistsFan66 ( talkcontribs) 20:26, 24 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Hi Dan I just did a search for more sources, and came up with a ton for the UK Nocturnal Emissions, who are a band (not the album referenced above). If you have sources that are independent and reliable that provide extensive coverage, you should add them to the draft -- (right now I'm seeing only seeing unreliable sources and sources related to the band.) If there is significant radio play, or the band has been featured in a significant broadcast segment, you should also provide verification. The band Dream's So Real released two records on Arista, which confers notability, but I agree, the article on the record (Nocturnal Emissions) does not establish notability.
References don't have to be in English, and they don't have to be online, provided that you have the publication name, date of publication, and (preferably) the author name. AllMusic is not a valid source unless there is editorial (biography) that was written by an AllMusic staff writer or a prominent freelancer. Feel free to hit me back when you find more refs - would love to help you get an article published! JSFarman ( talk) 15:21, 26 October 2021 (UTC) reply

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Hi there,

A group of us are working on the following page - /info/en/?search=Draft:Sean_Bush#

You recently cited that the page does not have enough external sources to qualify as notable. Although multiple sources are listed can you clarify as we also cited multiple articles and other wiki pages? After the last round, we spoke to the live chat team and they mentioned his work as a scholar. Below are several examples of other scholars within Wikipedia with similar or less references. We are just not clear as Dr Bush has been a celebrity since his Venom ER days which we also listed in his filmography section.

/info/en/?search=Steven_Seifert (this person references Dr Bush in his articles)

/info/en/?search=Henk_Tennekes_(toxicologist)

/info/en/?search=Joshua_Perper

/info/en/?search=Octavio_Augusto_Ceva_Antunes

/info/en/?search=Lisa_Alvarez-Cohen

Thanks and we look forward to your feedback, Nicole Beansalad3 ( talk) 17:46, 25 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Hi Nicole,
The existence of one article does not justify the existence of another; see Other stuff exists. And being a "celebrity" does not confer notability. (I found this out the first time I wrote an article - I brought up that the subject of the article had a gazillion google hits and was essentially laughed out of the chat room.)
I am not all that familiar with the notability criteria related to medical professionals. I applied the general notability criteria; Sean Bush does not meet the criteria based on the current draft of the article. You can post at the AfC Help Desk and someone with more expertise in the area may re-review the draft.
I think you would be better served by focusing more narrowly on his expertise and describing him as a "snake venom expert" in the lede. There are sources that provide sufficient coverage (which are not currently referenced): CBS News , The New York Times , NBC News , Chicago Tribune , The Wall Street Journal , the the Orange County Register and many others.
Etc
I would suggest that you simplify the article, break it into sections that reflect his many roles. Move all of his affiliations into one paragraph with a relevant heading.
Please note that my response and my suggestions are based on my interpretation of the notability criteria (and my experience as a reader). Another reviewer might feel differently.
Finally, who are "we"? If you are working on the article collaboratively (and you do not have a conflict of interest) all good, but more than one person editing under the same user account is not permitted. JSFarman ( talk) 19:14, 25 October 2021 (UTC) reply
I think that Wikipedia:Notability (academics) is relevant here. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 19:20, 25 October 2021 (UTC) reply
And there you have it. Cullen328 is a reviewer and an admin and (IMHO) whatever he says goes. I still think the article needs to be more focused but at least you know that notability will be met. (Thanks Cullen328.) JSFarman ( talk) 19:46, 25 October 2021 (UTC) reply
Thank you for the kind words, JSFarman, but I am just another editor with a few extra buttons. What needs to be determined is the impact of his work which has been published in peer reviewed academic journals on other academics, which usually means how frequently his work is cited in other academic journal articles. This is not an area where I have expertise (I only have a bachelor's degree) but I am just bringing this forth as a strong possibility based on what I see in the draft. Technically, I am a reviewer because I am an administrator, but I only occasionally accept AFC drafts. If any editor who is skilled in assessing academic notability concludes that he is notable, I will accept it. And I will look more deeply. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:51, 26 October 2021 (UTC) reply
Using the Google Scholar search tool, I see that academic journal articles with him as the lead author being cited 93, 86 and 77 times. I see articles with him as a co-author being cited 159, 91 and 52 times. And there are many more cited articles. That is very positive evidence, in my opinion. Possibly, snakebite scholars are cited more than scholars working in less dramatic topic areas. I do not know about that, but I do believe that this draft deserves a topic expert assessment. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:41, 26 October 2021 (UTC) reply
I think he meets GNG given the additional sources above, although I believe that if we are conferring notability based on his scholarly work it should be more prominent in the article. Also - those cite numbers aren't too impressive. I mean, my paper on being self-righteous was cited by 60000000000 other scholars. Smiley face. JSFarman ( talk) 03:21, 27 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Draft: Joshua Scott Jones

I'd love comments, a reviewer, or additional edits for my Draft: Joshua Scott Jones AFC submission. The draft is in the eight week bucket right now. Most of the drafts in that bucket have prior rejections or comments. This draft doesn’t have any rejections or comments. I included a notability discussion based on the Wikipedia standards for musicians on the talk page in hopes of making it easier to review. Thanks so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cteddie1 ( talkcontribs) 15:56, 28 October 2021 (UTC) reply

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Done. You could use a few more refs specifically about Joshua Scott Jones, but it's a solid article. Thanks for the contribution! JSFarman ( talk) 20:01, 28 October 2021 (UTC) reply
Awesome! Thank you so much!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cteddie1 ( talkcontribs) 20:07, 28 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Prior Deleted Article Help

Good morning Ms. Julie! I completed my Adam Sanders article and moved it to the mainspace. After I did that, there's a note on his talk page that says that he had an article written in 2014 and deleted in 2015. The note says "concern was: Sources do not mention Adam or are not reliable. iTunes charts are not relevant per WP:BAND. No secondary sourcing found at all." I don't think that there's a problem with notability or reliable sources today. He has articles in American Songwriter, Rolling Stone, and People magazine. I used 29 sources in the article. What do I need to do with or about the note on the talk page? Cteddie1 ( talk) 14:52, 4 November 2021 (UTC)cteddie1 reply

Hiya Cteddie1 ( talk), an article with the same title (which may or may not have been the same Adam Sanders) was deleted in 2015. The notes on the talk page referred to that article, not the one that was just published. At any rate, I created the page. JSFarman ( talk) 15:32, 4 November 2021 (UTC) reply
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Review for Damon Feldman

Good morning Miss Julie! Will you review an article for me? It's an article for Damon Feldman. It's in the 8 week pending AFC submission bucket. The guy that wrote it cited COI. I cleaned it up. Please let me know if it needs any further changes. Cteddie1 ( talk) 16:01, 13 November 2021 (UTC)cteddie1 reply

Hi and good morning to you too Cteddie1 ( talk)! I just looked at the draft and it reads like an ad. There are a couple of simple format things (second word in headings is lower case, and refer to him as Feldman, not Damon) but I will leave it up to you to edit for tone -- maybe read WP:NPOV! JSFarman ( talk) 16:35, 13 November 2021 (UTC) reply
What do you think now? Cteddie1 ( talk) 15:39, 14 November 2021 (UTC)cteddie1 reply
Hi Cteddie1, I took out the pioneer line (def not neutral) and that his nationality is "Jewish American." There is no such thing! Spread the word! Jewish indicates religion, not nationality, and I very rarely include it in articles or infoboxes unless it is a prominent in the subject's life.
Not essential, of course, but there is SO much info in that Philly magazine story. You might add some of it to the article. Otherwise I thin it's ok but I am not awake enough to review it. PS! Danny Bonaduce was one of my closest friends in the mid-2000s, being reminded of the boxing thing cracked me up. Thanks for that! JSFarman ( talk) 15:55, 14 November 2021 (UTC) reply
I added some more information. Some of it was from Philly magazine. I'm ready for review again. Thanks! Cteddie1 ( talk) 22:00, 16 November 2021 (UTC)cteddie1 reply
Reviewed, accepted. JSFarman ( talk) 16:15, 23 November 2021 (UTC) reply
Awesome! Thank you so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cteddie1 ( talkcontribs) 18:09, 23 November 2021 (UTC) reply

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Remble

Hi Julie,

I just wanted to thank you for creating an article on Remble, since he's been owed one for well over a year now. I also wanted to mention that there are some (racist, IMO) editors on here who have fought to keep articles for newer / rising rap talent off the site, including Remble. Maybe you'll encounter them? Maybe they'll be placated by the LA Times feature about him.

Pages for Remble in the past had been proposed and rejected, despite him having millions of plays on huge platforms like Spotify, Youtube and TikTok. I'm not an editor or an expert on wikipedia and don't care to be, but hopefully there are eds on here can address the clearly racist gatekeeping that goes on here.

Said differently: it really, really shouldn't take an LA Times feature about an artist who already had a huge fanbase to get them a page on here. Especially when there are literally thousands of pages for middling indie bands nobody listens to, obscure anime characters and Family Guy episodes.

To be clear: I don't work for Remble or know him. I'm just a cranky music fan and reader of Wikipedia. I like his music okay and was annoyed when I tried to read more about him on here only to find editors on here actively worked to keep him off the site.

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Hi 172.119.3.160 and thank you for the message. I get excited when I read about people in the NY Times or the LA Times and discover they aren't on Wikipedia; at this point I almost reflexively start articles. (I just created a sandbox for a musician named Silvana Estrada; there was a lengthy piece in the New York Times this morning. I was similarly inspired to write Leni Sorenson, Nai-Ni Chen, Hester Diamond and Thomas K. Gilhool and others that I'm not remembering at the moment.)
Before I start an article I always check on notability. I was made aware of Remble because of the LA Times story that ran over the weekend but then found the John Caramanica review, then XXL and Complex and HNHH and Pitchfork. (The Pitchfork review was racist, IMHO - the author wrote that he was commercially palatable, which I interpreted as "he will be successful because he annunciates and white kids will understand." Then again I am not a Pitchfork fan.) Remble stood out to me because of his humor; he is funny even when he is expressing or documenting the grotesque.
I have encountered bias of every kind on Wikipedia. When it comes to rap/hip-hop, we need to reassess the reliability of sources; many of the outlets that cover Black artists are not considered reliable based on criteria that is probably no longer applicable. (No one in the US other thathan maybe the NY Times, the Atlantic and the New Yorker has fact checkers anymore.)
I just took a look at the draft you submitted, and at that point there were not a lot of reliable, independent sources available. I think the guidelines need to change re: social media and social media stats, but right now they are not an indicator of notability. BUT! Your draft is great; it's so well-written. I hope you will contribute to the live article, and please ping me if you submit another article -- I can review and/or work with you on it.
Thank you again for the message! I'm cranky too, it means a lot. JSFarman ( talk) 17:13, 26 January 2022 (UTC) reply

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Thank you for the kitten! But Starscixn does not appear to meet notability based on the references currently used. They need to be independent and via a reliable source. That the songs exist (and are on Spotify) does not go towards notability. You can contest the deletion.
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Such a drag. BUT! I would love to collaborate with you; I somehow missed the FA class. I'm all about the LA idea for Wikipedia LA but there are so many articles I've started and want to complete. I've been working on the publicist Pat Kingsley off and on since 2017. There are a ton of references -- her life has been incredibly well documented and her story is great - I would be ecstatic to get it to GA status. Or even finished. (It's here, just in case you want to contribute. Smiley face.)
Anyway, thank you so much - if you're up for trying the LA-FA editing project again I'm up for helping to recruit people. AND if you're at all interested in becoming involved with Wikimedians of Los Angeles we would be thrilled to have you. Looking forward to crossing paths again! JSFarman ( talk) 18:54, 14 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Brent Swanner

Thank you for being kind and for offering to help me. I am new and the "Brent Swanner" page is only a few days old. I feel like I am being rushed to get it perfect and wish I could have some more time before all my work is just deleted.

Should I delete CD Baby from the Discography.

In my heart I know that "Brent Swanner" and "Testify (Christian band)" have the notoriety to be on Wikipedia. They were very popular between 1996 and 2005 and I can remember seeing articles & album reviews in Christian Magazines and their name in Gospel Music Charts. But all of that seems to be gone from the internet now. And when I do get close to something I run into a Pay Wall.

I would love your help. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113andathird ( talkcontribs) 11:50, 16 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Hi, hello. I have access to some offline databases - I'll see what I can find. Are you a member of a library? Often library card holders can access digital collections. (I'm in Los Angeles.) Also - although I'm not sure what the criteria is -- after a certain length of time you can use the Wikipedia Library, which is a fantastic resource.
If his records weren't specifically issued by CD Baby (which is unlikely) than yes, you should remove it as the label and replace it with "independent."
I requested that we draftify your article, which means moving it out of the mainspace so you can work on it. Let's see what happens and we can take it from there.
So glad to get your message and so glad you're here! — Preceding unsigned comment added by JSFarman ( talkcontribs) 12:35, 16 February 2022 (UTC) reply
Thank you so much for all your help. I have resigned to the fact that the deletion of "Brent Swanner" is probably inevitable. But I am very confident in Testify (Christian Band). Info is there, its just hard to find. "Testify" is a broad key word and the timing of their success makes it difficul. Are paid sites allowed? There are a lot of articles on NewsArchive but they are behind a Pay Wall.

There is a magazine called "The Singing News". Everything before 2015 seems to be deleted from their website. There was also a magazine called "The Gospel Voice" that I can remember had some album reviews and a couple/few articles but I can't find it anymore. I guess they went out of of business. Maybe "Brent Swanner" can be re-directed to "Testify (Christian band)? I removed CD Baby, thank you. 113andathird ( talk) 23:13, 16 February 2022 (UTC) reply

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Hello JS Farman. Im editing an Articles for Creation submission or Draft for Jamee Ranta that is up for resubmission. On the page you mentioned not being able to find a suitable citation to proove notabilty. Recently the subject was featured in a Billboard article and I think this should suffice to have the article accepted. Would you agree? I've removed a lot of the hyperbole and content and reformatted the article to meet wiki's requirements. Mistephake ( talk) 17:14, 1 March 2022 (UTC) reply

Hi Mistephake. The Billboard article is fantastic but the rest of the references are weak. The articles about Collin Tilley don't provide extensive coverage, the Variety article is light (and the title was inaccurate), the podcasts don't go towards notability, IMDb isn't considered valid (content is user-generated), and LA Voyager is definitely not a reliable source. That said, she should meet the inclusion criteria based on her Grammy nomination (if we apply the criteria for NMUSIC). Please resubmit and note a COI if it exists. Thanks. JSFarman ( talk) 00:26, 3 March 2022 (UTC) reply
Mistephake, thanks for the edits but now the articles reads like a resume. JSFarman ( talk) 18:22, 7 April 2022 (UTC) reply
Thank you for the reply and info. I wlll take these into account before re submitting. Mistephake ( talk) 17:52, 21 April 2022 (UTC) reply
Thank you for the reply and info. I wlll take these into account before re submitting. Mistephake ( talk) 17:52, 21 April 2022 (UTC) reply

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Thanks for reaching out! No, no access to offline databases for me. (Sorry if I'm not posting this in the right place, still very new at most of this) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MostMidgetlegs ( talkcontribs) 14:59, 4 May 2022 (UTC) reply

The exact right place, MostMidgetlegs! I'll add what I can find. Thanks! JSFarman ( talk) 18:05, 4 May 2022 (UTC) reply

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At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 [a] at the end of May.

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size. [b]

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

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Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 15122 articles, as of 10:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC), according to DatBot

There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.

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New Page Review queue August 2022

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Backlog status

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.

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Clarity on Resubmission for Twisted Pine

Hi JSFarman,


I represent the musical artist, Twisted Pine and we have received several rejections from you on our article submission. We're eager to wrap up this project and would love a bit more clarity on what we need to edit in order to have the submission approved by you. Draft:Twisted Pine

We are more than happy to make any changes necessary; we're just looking for more specifics so we can expedite the process.


Thank you so much!

Abbie and the team at Loudmouth Mgmt Abbieduquette ( talk) 12:30, 24 August 2022 (UTC) reply

Hi Abbieduquette. I've only reviewed the article once, but beside the point - if I reviewed it now I would still decline it based on notability. That said, I am not well-versed in bluegrass. Perhaps Anne Delong will review it? She has specific expertise in the genre. Thanks for the message. JSFarman ( talk) 15:52, 24 August 2022 (UTC) reply
Thank you! So are you saying we need to add more references? Or press links? @ Anne Delong would you be able to review? Thank you! Abbieduquette ( talk) 14:28, 28 August 2022 (UTC) reply
Hi again Abbieduquette,
Yes; from my perspective the band does not have the coverage required to establish notability. (Press links and references are the same thing.)
Keep in mind that references need be via reliable sources and provide extensive coverage. They also need to be independent -- Glide is mostly an interview and Signature Sounds is the label. I don't know Folk Radio but the article that it includes is not bylined, which is a red flag for me. NPR Live Sessions is performance (and finding Twisted Pine requires a search), the NPR Heavy Rotation coverage is one paragraph long. Ricky Meir and Rachel Sumner are previous members of the band and refs are from blog posts. Country Music Time also appears to be a blog. Bluegrass Today may be good, and the Globe is great but brief. I don't know if the prizes will get them to notability but I am not familiar with them. I mentioned Anne but I am not sure she's reviewing these days. You might take a look at other articles related to bluegrass musicians and see who the contributors are for additional guidance. Hope that I have been of some help. JSFarman ( talk) 16:18, 28 August 2022 (UTC) reply

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Please help me to review

Hello Julie, I hope you are doing well. I am glad to have a chance to contact to you. These days I am more active on Wikipedia. I am editing and creating new articles here in English Wikipedia. But I see now it takes long for articles to get reviewed. I think that's because of the large number of articles are being created than before.

I would like to ask your help to advise me some to improve the quality of the articles I have created so they can get reviewed further. I am listing three articles under this message for your review and feedback so you can check them out when you have time for them.

I look forward to receiving your suggestions Thank you so much

Articles to review: 1. Utkirbek Qahhorov 2. Honored artist of Uzbekistan 3. Ben Bu Cihana Sigmazam Lostinniagarafalls ( talk) 16:42, 25 September 2022 (UTC) reply

( by talk reader) @ Lostinniagarafalls: I think you need to read WP:COI and meta:TOU and consider if editing Wikipedia is something you should quit. Chris Troutman ( talk) 19:36, 25 September 2022 (UTC) reply

Thank you so much for taking your time for questions that was not asked from you. I appreciate your feedback. Thank you Lostinniagarafalls ( talk) 19:39, 25 September 2022 (UTC) reply

Lostinniagarafalls, I am not sure why you are asking me -- it doesn't appear that we have interacted in the past and I have not been particularly active at AfC lately. That said, I have great respect for Chris Troutman and if I had done the necessary research I'm sure I would have responded similarly. JSFarman ( talk) 20:39, 25 September 2022 (UTC) reply

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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

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Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

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Kara Swisher edits

Hi JSFarman,

I saw you deleted my edits to the Kara Swisher page citing "100% synthesis." I'm new to wikipedia contributing and not really sure what this means, could you elaborate on this?

Noatr ( talk) 04:21, 15 November 2022 (UTC) reply

Hi Noatr ( talk), Here's some clarification. Welcome to Wikipedia! JSFarman ( talk) 05:05, 15 November 2022 (UTC) reply

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Happy New Year!
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Did you know ... that back in 1885, Wikipedia editors wrote Good Articles with axes, hammers and chisels?

Thank you for your contributions to this encyclopedia using 21st century technology. I hope you don't get any unnecessary blisters.

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Thank you! Keeping my fingers crossed on the blisters....I have a lot of charts to update this year. Happy 2023 to you too. Julie JSFarman ( talk) 16:22, 3 January 2023 (UTC) reply

New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

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New Page Review queue December 2022
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The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

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Jay Sures Edit

Hello. I work for Executive Writing, and as part of my consultancy, I work with United Talent Agency. Thank you for removing the inappropriate reference to the Times of Israel article on Jay Sures' page. I am hoping you will also remove the same reference that appears on the page of David Kramer (Talent Agent). Thank you for looking into this matter. EWChristine ( talk) 18:34, 25 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Done. Happily. This particular issue drives me nuts. JSFarman ( talk) 18:42, 25 January 2023 (UTC) reply

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You are not right in your assessment of the roster. Infactinteresting ( talk) 19:53, 27 January 2023 (UTC) reply

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Eleventh anniversary on Wikipedia!

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Chris! For some reason I couldn't respond to your comment until now. BUT! I can't believe it's been 11 years. Seems like it was only yesterday that I was reverted for the first time. Thank you! You are one of the reasons I have stuck around. xo! JSFarman ( talk) 15:55, 22 February 2023 (UTC) reply

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New Draft of american musician

Hi :JSFarman I have written and edited this draft about a New York artist, "David Gonzalez" who is a bit difficult to classify (musician, poet, actor, teacher ....?) I have found references from independent sources of great relevance such as the New York Times, Washington Post and other news. I have seen that you are on the AfC participant list, and you have specialized in music. I ask you the great favor if you can review this article, thank you very much. Together we all make a better Wikipedia Miskito89 ( talk) 10:02, 6 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Hi @ Miskito89. He meets notability based on the sources you added, but the article is hard to follow. I totally get that he is hard to classify but the article can be organized in a way that will help readers understand what he does/has done. I started a copy edit and added some section headings. (Of course you can edit as you see fit!) I think writing the article chronologically will make it simpler. Also, keep the language plain, and refer to him as "Gonzalez," not "David."
For some examples, check out articles on other multi-disciplinary artists such as Nick Cave or David Byrne. If you are listing his collaborations, be specific about *how* he collaborated. For example, what did he do with Jessye Norman? Why did he receive grants? (For which discipline?) What was he commissioned for? (Music? Poetry? Play?)
It's too difficult for me to review the article in its current state, but if you decide to do an edit ping me back and I will take another look. Thank you for asking and thanks for the contribution! JSFarman ( talk) 02:51, 7 March 2023 (UTC) reply
Hi@ JSFarman, thank you very much for your quick reply. I am finding the Nick Cave article much more enjoyable and looking forward to reading it. I think the problem with David Gonzalez's article is that it is too flat and like a CV. There are some very interesting interviews where Gonzalez tells part of his life, how he started telling stories, and anecdotes that may be worthwhile. I'm going to try to find all the information we need and enter it and when the article is more rounded I'll get back to you. Yes, the good thing about Wikipedia is that it´s a collective work, and every time people collaborate with more professionalism. Thank you very much again Miskito89 ( talk) 17:00, 7 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Hello again JSFarman, thank you very much for giving me guidance to improve David Gonzalez's article. I have introduced new data about his works and about his role as an artist (musician, poet, actor...)
I have also found dates and made a chronology of his most important shows, I have also found out in which way he collaborated with other musicians and in which concrete projects and in which theaters, etc. I have also included some personal anecdotes extracted from his interviews. And some outstanding phrase or quote from the NYT and some poet.
I hope you can review it, that now it will be more enjoyable and easier to read and worthy of Wikipedia.
Something that I still think is not completely solved is the title; as there are so many people (athletes, politicians etc) with the name David Gonzalez, what do you think should be the concept by which it appears in parentheses?
David Gonzalez (artist) or David Gonzalez (multi-disciplinary artist)? Thank you very much for your help -- Miskito89 ( talk) 18:20, 14 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Hi - Miskito89. The article is better -- thanks for the edit -- but the language is still flowery and not neutral. I didn't go through the entire article but it appears that not everything is cited. His comments in interviews are not independent - you should use them to verify sparingly.
I did not realize you were submitting the article as a disclosed paid editor; the process of reviewing paid articles is time-consuming and the length of the article is challenging.
That said, I think multi-disciplinary artist is fine for the disambiguation. Happy editing! JSFarman ( talk) 16:06, 15 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Neal Francis

Thank you for your help with the Neal Francis article. I just added some information about his most recent album Sentimental Garbage. I really appreciate your assistance on this! TenAtoms ( talk) 18:46, 10 March 2023 (UTC) reply

My pleasure, @TenAtoms. I'm a fan! I just did another edit and added a couple more references and resubmitted it. Thanks for persevering (and for writing the article)! JSFarman ( talk) 00:34, 11 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Pasticceria (il) Boccione

Hallo JSFarman, I moved the article about the Pasticceria Boccione, removing the article "il", which in reality is non existent. I was actually shocked to find an english wikipedia article about a place I've been going to since I was a kid, but such is the way the world goes. Actually this is not a "Pasticceria", but a "Forno", since their products are quite rustic, but I suppose that the hags working there would not accept that change, and it's better to have them as friends than as enemies. Ciao! Alex2006 ( talk) 20:47, 16 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Oh HI!!! I just saw the page move and thank you for that but thank you also for this message -- it is cracking me up. I wrote the article because I was staying at a flat in the Jewish Ghetto and Pasticceria Boccione was right across the street. (I went there every day for a week and not once did any of the workers even nod a hello; it was so fantastically punk.) Thank you x 1000000000, and so great to cross paths. JSFarman ( talk) 21:14, 16 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Hello Julie. Since I know that you are an expert on music industry BS, I wonder whether you would be willing to take a look at this gigantic train wreck. Is this performer notable? If not, the article should go. If so, then somebody needs to take a machete to it. Cullen328 ( talk) 01:01, 23 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Wow. Hi Cullen328. Did you notice that almost none of the references are legit? I've never heard of her and I'm pretty well versed in obscure-indie-alt-punk of the 1980s. I can't find anything significant via a reliable source but I am very entertained! (It is a ridiculous article.) JSFarman ( talk)
I am stupid about all popular music since about the late 80s, early 90s time frame when I gave up on trying to discover new acts, and started checking out the new big stars six months or a year after their breakthrough hits. Marrying a deaf woman tends to limit one's exposure, although my wife enjoys the visuals and the deep bass lines. That relegated my opinions to the ash heap of history. Are you willing to nominate this article for deletion if you think that is the right course? The main editor has moved on to other problematic music bio edits. Cullen328 ( talk) 06:36, 23 March 2023 (UTC) reply
One person's "stupid" is another person's "blissfully oblivious."
I can't get myself to bring it to AfD; I did not spend long enough looking for citations. If they exist they are likely to be offline and I didn't check any of my offline databases. I *did* tag it, though, and will do more research if someone else doesn't get to it first. JSFarman ( talk) 18:26, 23 March 2023 (UTC) reply
Cullen328, I did take it to AfD because so much of it appears to be fake and I find that so troubling. JSFarman ( talk) 03:34, 24 March 2023 (UTC) reply
In this article I would like to know which references you believed were not legit. Every one of those citations was legit, and the accusation that they were not, is false, and needs to be backed up with evidence. That personal opinion dismisses publications as not legit, when they are, is very unprofessional, and probably breaks libel laws. I would like you to be specific on this as I bring it to the process for undeletion, which was based on opinion rather than facts and a blatant disregard for an editors work. So please back them, with explanation. Brooklyn Smith ( talk) 20:44, 7 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Hello I wrote the article on Roxanne Fontana, and would like to know why the article of this very notable performer, who was produced by Jack Douglas is a 'gigantic trainwreck'. Please be specific. Also I notice that you stated in your discussion of this take down that you found 'some videos'. This artist who has been reviewed in top publications, has approximately 60 videos on channels that belong to her record company as well as fans posting them. She only played night clubs in the 1980s (which you state you are well-versed in), but did not make any records until 1999,with her first album produced by legendary drummer from the Rascals Dino Danelli. What specific problem did you have with the article that made you state, without research to the main editor that it should be removed. I look forward to your reply or apology. Brooklyn Smith ( talk) 20:37, 7 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Hi Brooklyn Smith. Please refer to the deletion discussion for information. A notification about the article's nomination for deletion was left on your talk page on March 24. The discussion was closed as delete on March 31. JSFarman ( talk) 01:26, 8 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Yes that discussion was viewed, of course, which led me to this discussion. Please answer the question as to why you thought the citations were not legit, and why you thought the article was "fake". It is apparent that the other editor you discussed this with, who brought you on board for your expertise, referred to the 1980s. However, you did not read the article properly (just for "entertainment" apparently and not academically) to see that THAT in itself was an error as the first public release of music is 1999. Nor did he correct you on that misinformation which began with him misreading the article, yet wanting to take a "machete" to it even if the person was notable. You stated that none of the citations were legit. SHINDIG MAGAZINE HAS A CURRENT READERSHIP OF 170,000, DIGITAL CIRCULATION OF 37,000; PRINT 26,000. As your expertise is the 1980s, and admittedly San Francsico Punk Rock, can you admit you made a mistake on this and contribute to a discussion with Liz offering to undelete it please. Brooklyn Smith ( talk) 07:55, 8 May 2023 (UTC) reply

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I restored some of what you deleted here: OK, so he couldn't have signed either of those bands to Chrysalis because neither of them signed to Chrysalis. But that didn't require deleting everything in the infobox ... he still worked for Chrysalis, still co-owned the Dragonfly and his death still has possible connections to the Brown-Goldman killings. Daniel Case ( talk) 17:45, 5 May 2023 (UTC) reply

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Hello, I noticed you recently rejected my article for creation on the HeartMath Institute, citing concerns about neutrality. Writing a neutral article about pseudoscience is difficult, and there's often a tension between accurately portraying the scientific consensus and being fair to the alternative view. I attempted to model my article after the articles on parapsychology and energy medicine, which are the main areas of research the organization engages in. I think my article read quite similarly to these existing ones, but I can understand why that would seem biased as they are unambiguous in conveying the scientific consensus.

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Greetings, JSFarman. You reached out & were super helpful a couple years ago when I added a page (something I rarely do) on Sheila Schwartz. I am drafting a new page on another unfortunately un-Wikipedia'ed writer, the late great Maria Thomas. It has some unfinished parts, and I have reached out to her son to look at it before publishing, but if you could take also a look and share any thoughts or make any improvements, I would appreciate that. Many thanks & best. Sullidav ( talk) 12:44, 10 August 2023 (UTC) reply

PS - two things I'd particularly appreciate for you to look at, one stylistic and one technical. My draft switches back and forth between her pen name and her two real life names depending on what it is describing. That seems weird but alternatives (eg, ", writing as maria Thomas,") didn't work well either. Second, infobox will include either her pen name or her married name, depending on whether it's type person or type writer, but she was both a person and a writer and having all three names (those plus birth name) in the box would be better if that's possible. Sullidav ( talk) Sullidav ( talk) 12:53, 10 August 2023 (UTC) reply
PPS - on issue #1 my partial solution was to use a lot more of "she" and "her" than I otherwise would, but that's not a total fix. On #2, to see the problem, change the infobox type back and forth between "person" and "writer" and preview the result -- with "person" you lose "pen name" and with "writer" you lose "other name". Thx. Sullidav ( talk) 15:45, 10 August 2023 (UTC) reply
Hi Sullidav, so good to hear from you again! Thanks for introducing me to Maria Thomas (and thanks for writing another great article-to-be).
The naming issue is complicated! The way you've written it works, and I would stick with the writer info box. My only idea otherwise would be to include her birth name old-skool maiden name style (née Roberta Thomas) in the first sentence and then maybe just use either Worrick or her pen name? To me, ultimately, it's all about clarity. (I like that you included that she began using her husband's name after she was married.)
Your style is great, although you might want to give it another read for NPOV before you publish it. I'm happy to take another look too. And happy to have a new writer to read! JSFarman ( talk) 20:43, 10 August 2023 (UTC) reply
Many thanks JSFarman for looking and for these helpful thoughts and encouraging words.
Contacting you made me think about parallels between Sheila Schwartz and Maria Thomas - women writers who were wrongly not on Wikipedia, Stegner Fellows at Stanford, lots of fiction published in prestigious academic / literary reviews for virtually no money, died far too young. MT had more of a breakout moment, but still.
She's an extraordinary writer, I think, and well worth reading. I'd start with the short stories (CTAASYM).
The other thing that boggled my mind (and my draft page gets out of control in one place to demonstrate this point, but I was amazed so I kept going and going) is how many US newspapers reviewed serious fiction in the 1980s. There were dozens of different reviews of her books, it must have been over 100 US newspapers consistently publishing lots of reviews of serious books. The Anderson, S.C. paper reviewed one of her books! Now it feels like about five do that.
Hope you're well, wherever you are. That's Pacific-ish, I imagine based on some page of yours I read at some point-- and I am not asking you where! Sullidav ( talk) 00:25, 11 August 2023 (UTC) reply
Hi Sullidav ( talk)! I just ordered Come to Africa and Save Your Marriage. When I was googling for an (independent bookseller) link I had the same kind of wtf experience that you did; there are reviews *everywhere*. Major dailies, alt weeklies, monthlies, magazines (literary and otherwise). I'm blown away. At long last a reason to miss the 80s. (Also: how could she be completely new to me?) So tragic that she died so young.
I just finished Crying in H Mart which pretty much killed me. Did you read it? Waiting on the new Lorrie Moore! (She is possibly my favorite writer.)(Definitely in the Top 10 with Dan Chaon.)
I'm in LA. Not that you asked. :) I think you are in the midwest??? (Thanks for making my day.) JSFarman ( talk) 21:25, 13 August 2023 (UTC) reply
Thanks, JSFarman. I have had laptop issues (I thought power cord, but it's apparently the motherboard. Grr.) so have not been on Wikipedia for about a week.
I'm in DC. But originally from Cleveland Heights, home of Dan Chaon. Have not read H Mart but you are not the first to recommend it to me. Will add it to my to-read pile. Sullidav ( talk) 21:15, 20 August 2023 (UTC) reply
I am close to done with Draft:Maria Thomas. I will probably read through and tweak one more time tomorrow, then submit. If you have a chance to take another look for NPOV and other issues, that would be welcome. But your help already has been great. Sullidav ( talk) 02:09, 21 August 2023 (UTC) reply
New article is up, if you want to see: Maria Thomas. Sullidav ( talk) 11:59, 24 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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I try to submit this article: I submitted it wrong because of watching YouTube videos so the proofreader suggested to use my nickname, not the name like PeterFitzpatrick. So I used the guidelines that the Wiki proofreader send me (many thanks to them), and I also spoke in Wiki live chat that there might be a few reasons:

  1. Try not mentioning Linkedin and External links; 2. If I can't separate Peter Fitzpatrick from his business (it's hard using reliable media because most of the articles about the fashion app), try writing about the other person (better if it's historical people, 80th or earlier) - I participate on Wiki because of university practice . So, I'd also like to ask your advice as a reviewer before re-submitting with right external links. Thank you in advance.

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Hi ~Innosomnia - Reliable, independent sources are needed for him to meet the inclusion criteria. The references need to be about Peter Fitzpatrick, not his business. Anything that is related to him is not independent (ie LinkedIn). External links should be used only in the infobox and the external links section.
You would probably have an easier time writing about the app, which seems to have gotten a lot of attention. If you find valid sources for Fitzpatrick, be careful that the article does not read like a resume or CV.
Apologies if I am being less-than-helpful - I am not 100% sure of what you are after (but I will take a look at the draft again)! Thanks for the message. JSFarman ( talk) 20:46, 15 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Hi there! In a recent mass message that you sent, there were multiple syntax errors ( Linter errors, specifically, including obsolete tags and inline tags wrapping block content). Can you please visit Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks and ask the helpful editors there to apply these same fixes to all of the pages that the message was delivered to? And if you will be composing future messages from the boilerplate text that you used for this one, please make a note of these updates. I'll be happy to take a look at anything you have written before you send it out. Thanks. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 22:06, 1 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Hello Jonesey95, thank you! I was actually just leaving you a message to ask what I did wrong. (I once sent out a mass message that was missing a closing bracket. That was fun.) I would be so psyched if you would take a look at future messages. I am not good at this. In case it wasn't obvious. Thank you beyond! JSFarman ( talk) 22:11, 1 February 2024 (UTC) reply
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Nile Rodgers

Hi! I found you by looking at the view history of the Nile Rodgers page, because I was admiring the writing! I have been involved in Wikipedia for quite some time and do organizing for Meta:Wikimedia LGBT+ and Queering Wikipedia 2023 recently. I will be in L.A. towards the end of Feb, and I'd love to meet up and discuss Wikipedia and writing if you are around. My email is dorothy@wmlgbt.org Hexatekin ( talk) 21:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi Hexatekin and thank you! Very cool to meet you. I will email you, but definitely, let's get together when you are here! So psyched that you reached out, and so psyched to meet you. Julie JSFarman ( talk) 21:49, 5 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Pings

I know what you mean about pings and the yellow bar of super cringe. I'm usually like oh shit what have I done, lol. As for the draft, glad to know you are hyped about it. Sometimes I hesitate about pinging folks who I think can help because I don't want anyone to feel obligated. S0091 ( talk) 18:53, 9 February 2024 (UTC) reply

S0091! I love that you went so far above and beyond when you reviewed the drafts. It is so unusual, and it's what we need to be doing to keep new editors from fleeing! Thank you for reminding me of that. I feel the same way about pinging other editors. Worse though is pinging another editor and being ignored. It's really discouraging.
So good to (kinda) meet you! Julie JSFarman ( talk) 19:10, 9 February 2024 (UTC) reply
My view on reviewing has changed over time and my overall editing has changed after I discovered I had access to the WP Library (a Wikipedia life changer!). I don't always help out drafts...sometimes I'm lazy but do on occasion especially for historical topics where it's clear the creator likely does not have access to better sources. There's actually at least a handful or so editors who are willing to do so: valereee for food topics, BeanieFan11 for sports, jengod and PigeonChichenFish for various, KylieTastic usually for FloridaArmy's African American politician drafts, WIR for women/under-represented groups and so on. When DGG was still alive he focused on academics, even going through the painful exercise of reviewing abandoned drafts coming up for G13 (miss him). I came across you and your fantastic User page sometime ago while reviewing and apparently tucked you away in my head. When I came across the The Central, I connected the two.
Eh...it doesn't bother if I ping someone and they don't respond, nor if I leave a note on a WikiProject talk page that gets no traction. This is a volunteer effort and it should be mostly be enjoyable. If no one is into it, disappointing but that's fine. Also, I know I have been pinged and completely forgot because I was focused on something else at the time. Anyway, great to "wiki" meet you as well. S0091 ( talk) 19:33, 10 February 2024 (UTC) reply
S0091! When I looked at your talk page, I was reminded of how difficult reviewing is. Way too many disgruntled people, way too many messages. Huge props to you for responding to so many (unkind) comments with kindness. I still review aticles now and then, and I patrol from time to time, but not to the extent that I used to. (I find patroling much more difficult than reviewing.)
I am very psyched that you registered my existence! (One of the highlights of my experiences here was DGG asking me to weigh in on a music-related AfD; it was probably because he was tired of me asking him about academics. I miss him too.) I am familiar with all of the editors you mentioned, of course, but I didn't know jengod at all until she came to an editathon in December. She is brilliant. And she edits entirely on her cell.
And yes! The Wikipedia Library is a game changer. I think I edited for about five years without knowing it existed. Now I use it all the time.
I added the Central to our articles list for the edit-a-thon on Sunday. I hope we can find references. If we do, you will hear me celebrating from wherever you are! Julie JSFarman ( talk) 03:42, 13 February 2024 (UTC) reply

I will very likely be at the Los Angeles meetup

I said I'd leave a message on your talk page, as it is very much likely I will be there this Saturday. I have never been at a Wikipedia meetup before, so I'm excited for this! ShticktatorTal ( talk) 04:47, 14 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Fantastic!!! Last meetup we had was a blast. I am always a little harried at these things (because I am hella disorganized) but I am so psyched to meet you, ShticktatorTal. I feel like we are kindred spirits in at least a handful of ways! JSFarman ( talk) 05:20, 14 February 2024 (UTC) reply

A cup of coffee for you!

Thank you for hosting the edit-a-thon in West Hollywood. The turnout was outstanding, and hopefully the new editors will becoming meaninful productive contributors in whatever endeavor they apply themselves on Wikipedia and elsewhere. It was great seeing you again. RightCowLeftCoast ( Moo) 11:25, 18 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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J.M.I. Recordings

I published this article recently - Draft:J.M.I. Recordings - and it was speedy deleted. I'm wondering if you might be able to review it this time around before I publish it again? Record labels seems a little tricky to have published sources where it is a primary subject, because most of the articles that discuss the label are discussing particular albums or artists the label has produced.. Hexatekin ( talk) 17:37, 27 February 2024 (UTC) reply

( by talk reader) @ Hexatekin: I'm curious why you wrote this draft. The subject is not notable, which is typical of book publishers, record labels, and other publishers of material. Chris Troutman ( talk) 17:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC) reply
Quoting from User:Jessiemay1984 on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Record Labels, "it is impossible to divorce a record label's press coverage from its artists, nor would it make sense to do so." The notability guidelines for record labels have not been fully agreed upon, although there are many in progress discussions, see: Wikipedia talk:Notability (music)/Archive 21#Proposed criteria for record labels. Labels are usually covered in press about artists, but the way the press works doesn't necessarily make them non-notable. Hexatekin ( talk) 18:03, 27 February 2024 (UTC) reply
I had asked the question of why you wrote the draft, which went unanswered. Wikipedia consensus has turned against subject-specific notability guidelines like WP:PORNBIO and WP:SOLDIER so conversations along those lines accomplish nothing. I thought you came here asking for guidance, not argument. Chris Troutman ( talk) 18:42, 27 February 2024 (UTC) reply
Hi Hexatekin and hello Chris!
As Chris wrote, you should adhere to the notability criteria for companies. And -- as you noted -- labels don't get a lot of coverage. Particularly jazz labels (and artists).
If the article was speedily deleted, it means (in all likelihood) that an editor assessed the subject as lacking notability and an administrator agreed with their assessment and deleted the article. The subject of an article has to meet the inclusion criteria: independent, reliable sources that provide extensive coverage specifically via independent, reliable sources. Based on the references used, the company doesn't yet meet notability. (I will happily review any article of yours if you ping me, but in this case, I would decline it.)
And Chris! Hexatekin came to an edit-a-thon in LA two weeks ago. They do not have a COI. JSFarman ( talk) 19:24, 27 February 2024 (UTC) reply

2024 Angel City Edit-a-thon

Hi! I notice you RSVP'd to my event this weekend. Would you be willing to lead a short tutorial for participants who are new to Wikipedia? I've done some editing sporadically over the years but would love some support from a real Wikipedian.

/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Meetup/LA/Angel_City_FC_WoSo_Edit-a-thon_2024 Kabest ( talk) 22:44, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi Kabest, I was just about to remove my name from the RSVP list. I have a prosthodontist appt that was just scheduled for exactly the same time as the edit-a-thon. (This procedure wraps up three years of dental hell!.) I'm so sorry! I would love to help.
I will reach out to some other folks to see if anyone else is available. There are also some powerpoint presentations (so uncool) floating around that will walk people through the editing process if you are up for leading the conversation. (Gotta figure out where they're stored.) JSFarman ( talk) 23:19, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Great news! Blervis is experienced and will help! He will get in touch. Woo hoo!! JSFarman ( talk) 00:37, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Yay! Blervis, are you able to lead an introduction to editing? If you can commit to coming, I also need to send you a couple forms the library asks all volunteers to fill out... Let me know what the best way to get those to you is. Kabest ( talk) 17:25, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes! I have a slide deck already and everything! Sent you a message on FB. Blervis ( talk) 18:00, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Just here to say WOO HOO one more time! Thanks Blervis and Kabest. So glad this is happening. JSFarman ( talk) 18:19, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024

Hello JSFarman,

New Page Review queue January to March 2024

Backlog update: The October drive reduced the article backlog from 11,626 to 7,609 and the redirect backlog from 16,985 to 6,431! Congratulations to Schminnte, who led with over 2,300 points.

Following that, New Page Patrol organized another backlog drive for articles in January 2024. The January drive started with 13,650 articles and reduced the backlog to 7,430 articles. Congratulations to JTtheOG, who achieved first place with 1,340 points in this drive.

Looking at the graph, it seems like backlog drives are one of the only things keeping the backlog under control. Another backlog drive is being planned for May. Feel free to participate in the May backlog drive planning discussion.

It's worth noting that both queues are gradually increasing again and are nearing 14,034 articles and 22,540 redirects. We encourage you to keep contributing, even if it's just a single patrol per day. Your support is greatly appreciated!

2023 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2023 cup with 17,761 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 50/day. There was one Platinum Award (10,000+ reviews), 2 Gold Awards (5000+ reviews), 6 Silver (2000+), 8 Bronze (1000+), 30 Iron (360+) and 70 more for the 100+ barnstar. Hey man im josh led on redirect reviews by clearing 36,175 of them. For the full details, see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone for their efforts in reviewing!

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers deployed the rewritten NewPagesFeed in October, and then gave the NewPagesFeed a slight visual facelift in November. This concludes most major work to Special:NewPagesFeed, and most major work by the WMF Moderator Tools team, who wrapped up their major work on PageTriage in October. The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers will continue small work on PageTriage as time permits.

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MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 16:27, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi @ JSFarman. Take a look for which one you prefer at the "Release history" table: "Distributor", "Licensee", "Marketer" or "Promoter". 2001:D08:2910:4C95:17C3:914F:D77C:7595 ( talk) 04:01, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

2001:D08:2910:4C95:17C3:914F:D77C:7595 ( talk), Hello! Sorry for the delayed response, and thanks for asking. I tried to respond to the conversation several times but I was so perplexed by the idea of using "marketer" or "promoter" that I lost my ability to be rational. I will attempt it again today. It is so odd. JSFarman ( talk) 15:29, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply

The Smubbs & You

Hi! Thank you for looking over and commenting on my AfC submission for The Smubbs. As of right now, I'm a little bit confused on how to satisfy your request — as far as I can tell, every multi-paged source has an attached page number leading to the mention of the article's subject. Instead, is there some way to have the source's url link to a specific page on a pdf?

Hope I'm doing this right! Chroikey ( talk) 00:45, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Chroikey ( talk), I am so sorry! I didn't see the page numbers in the cites. I was getting lost in the very old Billboard and Record World articles. I will go over the draft again tonight. JSFarman ( talk) 01:42, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Always precious

Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:11, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Gerda Arendt, I can't believe it's been ten years. I probably say this every year, but finding your message on my talk page in 2013 -- surrounded otherwise by notices about orphaned unfree files and disambiguation errors -- was one of the reasons I kept editing. It was the first time I felt like I could be part of Wikipedia. Thank you for the encouragement and for everything you do. JSFarman ( talk) 00:57, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Thank you, just thank you! You have perhaps no idea how much encouragement such comments mean for me. 10, however is the last time - I didn't want to make the sapphires any larger ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 05:53, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Sam's Club update

Hi JSFarman, in the past you had helped with some changes related to the CEO of Walmart International on the Walmart article I had requested. I made some similar requests on the Sam's Club Talk page and I was hoping you might take a look. I'd really appreciate it! Cheers TJ at Walmart ( talk) 14:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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