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Fails the
notability guidelines for companies. Repeatedly deleted under G11. Creator has COI. Exclusively sourced to press releases and the company's own website. –
Teratix₵ 03:29, 1 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Fails
WP:WEBSITE; doesn't detail the site's "impact or historical significance", just the fact that it exists. Sources seem like
churnalism based on pieces of the site's content, rather than being about the site itself.
Jonathan Deamer (
talk) 17:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete - Does not meet
WP:GNG. It doesn't seem to have a significant coverage and it lacks
reliable sources. You would hardly find a reliable secondary source on the subject, to even try to expand on it.
ZyphorianNexus (
talk) 23:01, 30 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Largely unsourced collection of original research/commentary about what happens to have been on Marilyn Manson's website. Not inherently notable; no evidence that the use of the website is unique or notable in-and-of-itself. Includes numerous unnecessary external links. Fails
WP:WEBSITE. Any minor content worth noting about the website can simply be part of
Marilyn Manson.
ZimZalaBimtalk 21:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete - I got an edit conflict trying to nominate this; you've said exactly what I was about to :)
Notability is not inherited, and the OR/fancruft factor means there's little left that can't be merged into the main articles on MM the band / MM the person if needed.
Jonathan Deamer (
talk) 21:18, 29 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete - for all reasons highlighted by nominator and first commenter.
Dclemens1971 (
talk) 22:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Does not meet
WP:GNG. Has had a {{notability}} tag for eight months with no improvements. References are either company listings, articles hosted by Hashtag Pop itself, or other news sources re-reporting their stories. A
WP:BEFORE search in Portuguese doesn't yield any reliable sources with significant coverage.
Jonathan Deamer (
talk) 16:57, 29 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Fails GNG and
WP:WEBCRIT. A search for "AFL Tables" will show up thousands of webpages which reference statistics from this online database, but no references which actually give significant coverage about the database as a subject, which is the benchmark which must be met under WEBCRIT. Google searching "paul jeffs afl tables" is a better search term to look for SIGCOV about the database (since any genuine SIGCOV would include Jeffs' name as the site's creator), and the best that shows up a few appreciative one-liner posts in public forums and on other stats databases - nothing which meets GNG's requirements of significance and independence. I don't see any valid alternative to deletion; there's no merge or redirect target that makes sense, and issue of lack of references can't reasonably be solved by draftifying.
Aspirex (
talk) 00:47, 27 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I have a longstanding draft at
User:Teratix/Australian rules football analytics which I really, really need to finish and move into mainspace at some point. I did a bit of searching for sources covering AFL Tables as part of my research, and it does get a mention in James Coventry's Footballistics (p. 265):
[...] there are also a few publicly curated databases, the best of which is the brilliant AFL Tables maintained by Paul Jeffs. Jeffs' database includes, among other information, results from every AFL/VFL match since 1897, detailed player statistics dating back to 1965, and round-by-round Brownlow voting records from 1984 onwards. "It's a nice dataset, I can say that," said Dr Lenten. "It gives me good bang for my buck because it's possible to look at a number of problems."
(Aside: Footballistics; amazing book, excellent source of information on modern Australian football. Doesn't have a fucking index. I had to skim through all 362 pages to find that paragraph the first time.)
As to what should happen to the article... I agree it probably doesn't meet the GNG. That paragraph's not enough. I also agree there's no mainspace target for redirection or a merger. But I think an article on Australian rules football analytics ("statistics"? I'm still undecided) would be an obvious place to briefly discuss AFL Tables. So, uh, this may be a bit unorthodox, but how would we feel about merging it to my draft? I would be happy to move it into draftspace proper if
Gibbsyspin preferred. –
Teratix₵ 12:57, 27 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I think that would work. It would need to be its own fairly standalone subsection within the analytics article, to ensure that the thousands of wikilinks which may be put in article reflists are directed somewhere specific rather than to a general analytics page. As long as that's achievable, I think that's a valid option.
Aspirex (
talk) 15:02, 27 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete with a view to creating a redirect to the statistics article once
Teratix has moved their draft to mainspace (or it is otherwise created). It is regrettable that such an important RS doesn't meet GNG or WEBCRIT but there is simply no SIGCOV.
Aspirex - I think a
Template:Anchor would do the trick. And there are ~12,000 transclusions of
Template:AFL Tables that could conceivably link there!
I'm not finding anything in a BEFORE search that establishes the notability of this blog/website. All I see online is the blogs own posts on other social media platforms like twitter and X. I also see to bloggish/churnalist-type stories where the writer is guessing or implying who the author of the blog may be. Fails GNG, NCORP and WP:WEBCRIT.
Netherzone (
talk) 16:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC)reply
You will notice that they didn't add much references still it wasn't nominated for speedy deletion
Realcontribution (
talk) 23:49, 27 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete Fails
WP:GNG, No sources or coverage found of the subject. Only primary sources have been located, which fail to establish the notability required for a standalone article.
Grabup (
talk) 17:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)reply
since WP: NEO is cited, let us see what it says, Articles on
Somali Inside News that have little or no usage in reliable sources are commonly deleted, but in this case, this phrase is very widely cited across an enormous variety of reliable sources. The phrase probably should also be mentioned
Mass media in Somalia. if anyone can tell us why it should be deleted. @
Rydex64HelperWik25 (
talk) 14:34, 26 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Fails
WP:GNG. Some of the references don't even mention the subject and the rest are either unreliable or not in-depth.
CNMall41 (
talk) 06:35, 14 April 2024 (UTC)reply
The publication has gone through significant changes from what I know and for the record, I'm going to second the suggestion for deletion.
Fishnagles (
talk) 01:18, 15 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk! 07:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk! 05:53, 28 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I'm surprised that
User:Jamiebuba approved this page because this company has a long and torrid history of COI and uploading promotional pages to Wikipedia and this page seems no different to what has gone before. Sure, we've got Entrepreneur Magazine which might have been published independently of the subject but there are a lot of sources that don't count as RS like press releases, local newspapers and the dreaded
TechCrunch the least independent source in the history of business journalism. I think it's safe to say that this one-man band, run of the mill, stock image supplier fails
WP:NCORP and is hardly notable so fails
WP:GNG. I am interested to see what crawls out of the woodwork in the ensuing discussion, though.
Dafydd y Corach (
talk) 08:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete: The Biz journal article is repeated in a Lexington newspaper and by Yahoo
[1] so feels like a PR item. The rest of the sources given don't impress me.
Oaktree b (
talk) 12:12, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep obviously needs a complete rewrite and shouldn't have been accepted in its current state, but these reviews
[2][3] seem like enough for a NCORP/NPRODUCT pass. –
Teratix₵ 14:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk! 07:39, 16 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
✗plicit 11:41, 23 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep They are some reviews from some good news organizations on subject. Enough to satisfy
WP:NCORP.
Chekidalum (
talk) 11:27, 27 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep Seems to meet NCORP although this type of writing shouldn't get past AFC.
X (
talk) 04:34, 28 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete This is a *company* therefore GNG/
WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or
significant sources with
each source containing
"Independent Content" showing
in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. Two sources mentioned above refer to reviews on the product/website of the company. Just to point out the obvious - if the topic of this article was about the website/product, these could be examined with a view to establishing the notability of the website/product, but those references do not establish the notability of the *company*. I'd also add that those references would not, in my opinion, meet the criteria for establishing the notability of the product either - both Techmedia and photutorial earn commission from the "independently reviewed" website's affiliate links and appears Photutorial appears to be little more than a blog, not truly Independent, failing
WP:ORGIND.
HighKing++ 13:18, 28 April 2024 (UTC)reply
if the topic of this article was about the website/product, these could be examined with a view to establishing the notability of the website/product, but those references do not establish the notability of the *company*. Well, in that case we can write the article on Vecteezy the website instead. In fact, my understanding is that's how the article is written already.
both Techmedia and photutorial earn commission from the "independently reviewed" website's affiliate links this interpretation of independence is too demanding and is not supported by ORGIND. The actual reviews demonstrate more than enough deep and original analysis to qualify as significant independent opinion.
Photutorial appears to be little more than a blog, not truly Independent Well, these are two different allegations – being a blog would make it unreliable, not non-independent. They appear to have a
strong editorial policy but looking through the rest of the site it does look like they're a bit of a one-man operation. On the borderline for me.
In any case there is also
PetaPixel's review already cited in the article, which should settle it. –
Teratix₵ 15:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Final relist. A source analysis would be helpful. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
voorts (
talk/
contributions) 03:56, 1 May 2024 (UTC)reply