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July 3

Disasters and accidents


2024 Ukrainian coup attempt allegations

Article:  2024 Ukrainian coup attempt allegations ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ An alleged pro- Russian coup is foiled by the Security Service of Ukraine that sought to oust Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. ( Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

I noticed that nobody was talking about a foiled coup yesterday in Ukraine that major news outlets are talking about so I decided to make a page for it, I feel that this is just as notable as any other coup and should be included in the news. Scu ba ( talk) 00:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Huh. A quite worrying development of the ongoing war, but the (alleged) coup wasn't actually attempted, so oppose on notability. Chaotic Enby ( talk · contribs) 00:48, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Oppose There have been a few assassination plots targeting the president as well over the past 2 years. And I believe there was a coup plot foiled shortly before the war. So unless something is at least attempted, like in Bolivia, I don't think it's worth posting. Scaramouche33 ( talk) 05:05, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

July 2

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections


BB(5) discovery

Article:  Busy Beaver ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In computer science, researchers discover the fifth Busy Beaver number. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A group of mathematical researchers announces the discovery of the fifth Busy Beaver number.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The fifth Busy Beaver number is discovered, establishing a new quantitative limit on the behavior of small computer programs.
News source(s): [2] [3]
Credits:

I guess the article needs work to be understandable to non-experts and should highlight more about the new discovery, but I think this is a big deal for computer science and mathematics. It's been 41 years since progress was made on this problem, it closely relates to the limits of mathematical knowledge and mathematical proof, it was a big online volunteer collaboration over several years, and it's one of the first new mathematical results to be formalized in a proof assistant contemporaneously with its announcement (which helped other mathematicians be more confident more quickly that the result was correct). It's also very likely the largest Busy Beaver number that humanity will ever be able to discover. So this is potentially the only progress on this problem that Wikipedia will ever be able to announce! Schoen ( talk) 23:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Support just beat me too it! Big thing in computer science tho Ion.want.uu ( talk) 23:28, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Support Wow! Didn't follow it too closely, I'm surprised it was actually discovered. Science at ITN is always great, and, as Schoen says, this is likely the largest Busy Beaver number we'll be able to discover (for two-state Turing machines at least). Not only does the state space grow very fast, but these numbers are inherently uncomputable, meaning you can't just throw more computing power to find them, you need to go through mathematical proofs for each Turing machine. By the way, for anyone curious, the number is 47 176 870. Chaotic Enby ( talk · contribs) 23:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
A lower bound on the sixth Busy Beaver number is 10⇈15, or 1010...15 times...10. Needless to say, we don't have enough space in this universe to even write it down. Chaotic Enby ( talk · contribs) 23:49, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose primary because the target article is terribly undersourced and is the symptom of being far too technical for an encyclopedia. Besides that, I'd like to see at least either a peer-review article or a more mainstream news source covering this, because as the Quantum article points out, this is more a curiosity than a breakthrough in mathematics. -- Masem ( t) 02:00, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Dick Schoof (Netherlands PM)

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Article:  Dick Schoof ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  Dick Schoof becomes Prime Minister of the Netherlands. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: Dick Schoof is sworn in as Prime Minister of the Netherlands.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In the Netherlands, a new cabinet is sworn in with independent politician Dick Schoof serving as prime minister.
Alternative blurb III: ​ In the Netherlands, Dick Schoof succeeds four-term prime minister Mark Rutte.
News source(s): AP
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

One interesting thing about this succession is that Schoof is not part of the coalition party. Mark Rutte was PM for 13+ years, will serve as the next SG of NATO (1 October), which was just made official on 26 June. -- Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 19:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Support because he succeeded 13-year incumbent Mark Rutte, and this concludes government appointment from the November 2023 Dutch election. JohnAdams1800 ( talk) 23:39, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

2024 Hathras stampede

Article:  2024 Hathras stampede ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 107 people are killed in a stampede during a religious event in Uttar Pradesh, India. ( Post)
News source(s): Hindustan Times
Credits:

Article will need some work before it's ready. Estreyeria ( talk) 13:33, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

July 1

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections


2024 Seoul car crash

Article:  2024 Seoul car crash ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  A car crash killed 9 people in Seoul, South Korea. ( Post)
News source(s): BBC Reuters The Daily Telegraph
Credits:

-- 117.53.77.84 ( talk) 05:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Robert Towne

Article:  Robert Towne ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): USA Today The New York Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Staraction ( talk | contribs) 02:45, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment: The more extensive the credits, the more pain in sourcing. Needs more citations all over. Just watched Chinatown too. -- Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 02:54, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: June Leaf

Article:  June Leaf ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Staraction ( talk | contribs) 13:19, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Not ready entire work section have only two sources. PrinceofPunjab TALK 16:01, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

José Raúl Mulino becomes President of Panama

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Article:  José Raúl Mulino ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  José Raúl Mulino becomes President of Panama. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: José Raúl Mulino is sworn in as President of Panama.
Alternative blurb II: ​ After winning the Panamanian general election, José Raúl Mulino becomes President of [Panama.
News source(s): AP
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

-- Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 21:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC) Updated image. --04:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Oppose - This is just the swearing-in. The election was two months ago; we discussed it, but didn't manage to get it posted. GenevieveDEon ( talk) 21:55, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ GenevieveDEon, thats why I nominated. 2024 Panamanian general election was not posted. Doesn't this meet the WP:ITN/R qualification of: Changes in the holder of the office which administers the executive of their respective state/government... except when that change was already posted as part of a general election? Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 22:00, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    You're both right. This is just as recurrent as the election item and just as subject to not getting posted after a discussion. It all depends who discusses what and how from here out. InedibleHulk ( talk) 03:06, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support given that we didn't post the election This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang ( talk) 04:56, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support Alt2 Article is of decent quality, and we should post this as the election itself didn't get posted. I would suggest posting alt2, as the first two blurbs don't actually say how he became the president, only that he is now the president. Gödel2200 ( talk) 13:20, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Support on notability. BilboBeggins ( talk) 16:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Hurricane Beryl

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Article:  Hurricane Beryl (2024) ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  Hurricane Beryl makes landfall in Grenada, causing extensive damage. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: Hurricane Beryl, the earliest recorded Category 5 in the Atlantic Ocean basin, makes landfall in the Caribbean.
News source(s): CNN NBC
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Category 4 hurricane which is still active. Gödel2200 ( talk) 21:12, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment: it is now a category 5. West Virginia WXeditor ( talk) 17:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: I thought about nominating this article. One notable aspect about this hurricane is that it is the earliest Category 4 Category 5 on record in the Atlantic Ocean. If this gets posted, this information might be worth mentioning in the blurb. I have proposed an alt (which might need some tweaks). -- Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 21:21, 1 July 2024 (UTC) Updated alt. -- Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 16:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Wait/Oppose. Full impacts aren't known yet, however the article body does not yet substantiate the "extensive damage" claim at the moment. The record, while interesting, is very much trivia, and a record for being category 4 is obscure. Cat 5 maybe we can talk, but not a category 4 record. DarkSide830 ( talk) 21:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    It is a category 5. It got up to 165 mph. West Virginia WXeditor ( talk) 17:19, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Wait until we know more about the human impact of the storm. It's early in the season, and both this storm and other storms may yet cause more damage. As it stands, I'd oppose, but I don't want to pre-empt things as the situation develops. GenevieveDEon ( talk) 21:59, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Wait For the most part, breaking specific intensity records don't warrant inclusion here. It might merit inclusion depending on impacts/ TornadoLGS ( talk) 02:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Wait: Per others. At time of writing this, further land impacts are likely to occur in the coming week per the NHC forecast and model guidance. The full extent of this storm's impact has yet to be seen. Comment: Additionally, Beryl has recently attained category 5 intensity, breaking Hurricane Emily's record for earliest cat 5 storm in basin, though it is not expected to impact any land as a cat 5 storm. ArkHyena ( talk) 07:41, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Comment: a high end category 3 would still cause severe impacts on Jamaica; to which it is headed towards them in the next day or so. West Virginia WXeditor ( talk) 17:22, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Wait for impacts to be known, and for potential subsequent landfalls. While it is true that this storm is remarkable from a meteorological perspective, ITN posts based on the real world effects a storm has on populated areas. It is still very possible it could warrant posting in the future, but not right now.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 12:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Blurb probably needs updating as its now Cat5 (and the earliest one at that) -- Masem ( t) 12:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Masem @ DarkSide830. I have updated the alt. -- Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 16:54, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Wait/Oppose A large hurricane in the middle of the ocean that isn't forecasted to make another landfall until it weakens substantially due to a significant amount of sheer in its path isn't quite notable enough for blurbing. Let's see what develops over the next few days. Kcmastrpc ( talk) 14:02, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

(Ready for blurb) RD/Blurb: Ismail Kadare

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Article:  Ismail Kadare ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Albanian novelist Ismail Kadare (pictured) dies in Tirana. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Albanian writer Ismail Kadare (pictured) dies at the age of 88.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Albanian writer Ismail Kadare (pictured) dies in Tirana at the age of 88.
News source(s): Associated Press
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Internationally renowned Albanian novelist. gobonobo + c 09:15, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Support Blurb truly a transformative figure and one of the greatest writer of our time and thank god, it has an legacy section that helps understand his impact. PrinceofPunjab TALK 13:58, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support blurb Can’t say I’m familiar with him, but the legacy section defines his elevated significance quite well, and we did blurb Milan Kundera not that long ago. The Kip ( contribs) 15:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support Blurb on notability Murnane, Munro, McCarthy, Byatt, Oe, Auster, Amis, Kundera, Barth ... Out of all the notable literary deaths of the past two years, Kadare was one of the greatest. There's a bibliography, so you know what that means. Sincerely, Dilettante 16:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    So many passing recently, you’re right. I could argue (unsuccessfully of course) that all those you mentioned, except for A. S. Byatt and Martin Amis, should’ve gotten blurbs. Along with Louise Glück, who died last year and should‘ve gotten a blurb. Gerald Murnane (who you mentioned) is still alive I think, but I think he may deserve a blurb, too. I haven’t read anything by him yet. I think only Kundera got a blurb. And Paul Auster didn’t even get his RD posted, though it was ready to go on the last day of the deadline. Trauma Novitiate ( talk) 04:10, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Murnane was a slip on my part. I think I meant Maryse Condé, another blurb-worthy figure IMO. There was a similar burst of deaths just under a decade ago, with Umberto Eco, Marquez, Le Guin, Toni Morrison, etc all within a few years. For my part, I'd support Amis as a prominent public intellectual if not for the fact that it would SNOW. There was a push for an Auster blurb, but it was shut down. Even I opposed that because in the US he's a fairly well-known and unique but, in Europe (especially France), he's just a particularly skilled author of Nouveau romans. His influence was low relative to his popularity.
    Murnane is IMO the second most skilled living novelist, behind Krasznahorkai,so I'd highly recommend him. Sincerely, Dilettante 15:14, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support blurb after fixing quality issues this is exactly what we should expect for a blurb able RD, an extensive discussion in the article about how they are a great figure. And this is a person I have not heard of but the type of person we should be highlighting at RD. Obviously there's an orange tag and a few smaller quality problems to be fixed before posting. Masem ( t) 17:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support blurb Major, transformative literary figure. Khuft ( talk) 19:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: I tried to address the outstanding CN tags in the article. Sourced or put an ISBN for the English translations, but I do not have the time to source the complete works in Albanian. -- Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 20:19, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Old Man Dies One sentence update about a Tirana hospital, years of ill health and reaching 88. Mundane obituary stuff. Big deal in the literary life, sure, but his death doesn't affect that in any way whatsoever worth adding to his Career section. InedibleHulk ( talk) 20:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    'Old Man Dies' is an obnoxious response to proposed stories of this kind. You're saying more about yourself than about the news by your repeated use of it. GenevieveDEon ( talk) 22:00, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Old Man Dies is simply shorthand for the repeatedly shot-down sorts of obituaries that keep popping up around here, as if they're legitimate media events. There's no state funeral, no plausible sidebar potential and generally no reason to stay posted for a week or more alongside earthquakes, sporting celebrations and scientific breakthroughs. Especially where dozens of other notable recent dead cycle along underneath in the meanwhile, for doing the exact same thing. If you want to try and psychoanalyze an author of my depths from a mere quip, "be my guest", but you're going to get a lot wrong. I suppose I should say I was wrong about an RD not affecting literary life, because several non-readers here seem to suddenly think Kadare's someone worth thinking about reading. InedibleHulk ( talk) 01:22, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    How do you know whether or not someone's a non-reader? Most don't have a glaring userbox saying This user does not read books. Sincerely, Dilettante 16:28, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    I mean people who haven't read a book by Kadare. Several of us said here we hadn't even heard of him, implying what that does. I certainly didn't lump you into that crowd, given your vote. InedibleHulk ( talk) 19:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    My bad. I misinterpreted what you meant by non-reader. Sincerely, Dilettante 20:19, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    No worries. When I read you write "Byatt", part of me thought you meant Bray Wyatt by it. That's much worse. InedibleHulk ( talk) 03:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support blurb Influential in his field (kinda think Munro should’ve been blurbed too but oh well). Article could be updated a bit better to reflect his death / reactions. TDKR Chicago 101 ( talk) 21:22, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Weak Support Blurb - I'm not an expert, but the article seems to support well, with citations, the proposition that he was a genuinely outstanding figure in the literary world. GenevieveDEon ( talk) 22:00, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose blurb. I find it dubious that a person whom not many know is blurbed just because his peers praised him, while many people whom everyone knows, like Donald Sutherland, Christopher Plummer, Kirk Douglas and Olivia de Havilland, Cormac Maccarthy, Vangelis, to a lesser extent William Hurt, Angela Lanesbury, Harry Bellafonte.
He hasn't even got a Nobel Prize, we didn't blurb a great many guys who had one.
I don't think he is that transformative, I don't know his books, they weren't adapted to the screen notably.
I also wouldn't say his influence in Europe is large. BilboBeggins ( talk) 16:36, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Your list is mostly celebrities. Secretlondon ( talk) 19:10, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I would regard Vangelis as top musician, Cormac Maccarthy as accomplished writer, Donald Sutherland and Christopher Plummer as character actors, William Hurt as powerful dramatic actor. Lanesbury was first nominated for Oscar 80 years ago. Bellafonte was devoted activist. And Havilland and Douglas were just legends. Still are. BilboBeggins ( talk) 20:54, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
How influential are those actors? I've never heard an actor say "I saw William Hurt in Lost in Space and it was revelatory—it completely changed the way I act." At most actors are inspired by each other; it's rare their styles shift much. On the other hand, it's common for popular authors to cause significant shifts in the literary style du jour or the themes most covered.
With Kadare, you can also make an argument for political influence as a dissenter and activist. Sincerely, Dilettante 21:49, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
To be fair, Lost in Space isn't even in top 20 Hurt's performances.
Let's see
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I put dozens of Sutherland references last month. BilboBeggins ( talk) 22:33, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Havilland literally changed studio system and the ways actors were treated [7]. BilboBeggins ( talk) 22:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
notability does not always go hand in hand with popularity. _-_Alsor ( talk) 19:40, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Whether a death is still in the news by the time it's posted depends on popularity, though. That's the more important thing, blurbwise. Notability just determines whether the biography exists. InedibleHulk ( talk) 19:48, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
But enduring popularity across globe is notability.
I regard as the problem that in a competitive field top or upper tier representatives won't be considered, only top top top ones, while in a sport the best known player will be considered good enough for blurb.
81 wiki page for Sutherland, 30 for Willie Mays, 30 for Shane Warne, around 40 for Jim Brown at the time of death.
This all hardly makes sense.
I would assume blurb deaths are for cases where a person is so well known that it is news that they died, and everyone should know about it, and Wikipedia spreads this information. As in cases of Pele, Queen Elizabeth II, Sidney Poitier, Pope Benedickt XVI. BilboBeggins ( talk) 20:50, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
If we're going to use "popularity across the globe" as the new criteria for death blurbs, why stop there? Let's apply popularity across the board at ITN! New PM in the Netherlands? Who cares! Taylor Swift's outfit malfunctioned during a concert in Ireland! Kim Kardashian just renovated her luxury villa! Let's please focus on the really popular news. Khuft ( talk) 21:36, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
WP does not consider fame or popularity as part of notability, because that feeds into the systematic bias of English and Western topics. We are an encyclopedia, the main page meant to displace high quality encyclopedic articles, and in this case, a person that has a thoroughly established legacy and impact on literature, an ideal encyclopedic topic, even if one hasn't heard of them before. Absolutely meets what we want the main page to reflect. Masem ( t) 22:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
More specifically, we're an English encyclopedia. Most English readers and writers exist in or know of this "Western world" of internettable common knowledge; these have always been the sort of people we work with and for. Anyway, I'm pretty sure I've reminded you of this recently and it had no effect, so I'll just suggest " globularity" for this newfangled metric (assuming Khuft isn't kidding about that topless news in Ireland). InedibleHulk ( talk) 04:48, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
The key of what I'm saying is that just because the majority of readers and editors of en.wiki likely have not heard of this author because of being outside the normal English/Western sphere of influence (and I'm in that boat of having no idea who he was), should absolutely not be a valid point of opposition becasue that runs against the fact we cover all topics globally. The same argument, in reverse, came up with the Willie Mays blurb, in that he was a figure likely known to most American readers and editors but not to other parts of the world - but still demonstrated why he was a great figure in the field of baseball. Masem ( t) 04:58, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Now you're getting en.wiki (the thing that covers all topics globally) mixed up with "us" ( WP:ITN, a tiny speck within the whole, where Western news comes first). This is hopeless. You win! InedibleHulk ( talk) 05:24, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Blurb? Is he famous for dying? HiLo48 ( talk) 01:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
He's much more famous than he was two days ago. Sincerely, Dilettante 01:05, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

(Closed) New Indian Criminal Code comes into effect

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Article:  Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ New Criminal Code Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita (BNS) comes into effect from 1 July 2024 to replace the Indian Penal Code (IPC), which dated back to the period of British India. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Three criminal laws namely Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita (BNS), Bharatiya Nagarik Suraksha Sanhita (BNSS), and Bharatiya Sakshya Adhiniyam (BSA) comes into effect replacing Indian Penal Code (IPC), Criminal Procedure Code (CrPC), and Indian Evidence Act (IEA), respectively.
News source(s): The Hindu ndtv.com The Times of India
Credits:
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(Closed) Sam Mostyn as new Governor-General of Australia

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Article:  Sam Mostyn ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Businesswoman Sam Mostyn (pictured) succeeds David Hurley as Governor-General of Australia. ( Post)
News source(s): news.com.au ABC News
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Businesswoman, climate change and gender equality activist and former AFL commissioner who has a medal named after her nominated to the highest office held by an Australian. Aydoh8 ( talk | contribs) 02:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose Governor-Generals are just ceremonial roles. PrinceofPunjab TALK 13:38, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Non-oppose but I will note that we didn't post previous changes of viceroy/reine in Commonwealth realms This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang ( talk) 03:54, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Oppose The governor-general is mainly a ceremonial role, as mentioned by Ad Orientem -- MtPenguinMonster ( talk) 04:46, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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(Closed) United States President granted criminal immunity

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Article:  Trump v. United States (2024) ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The United States Supreme Court grants the President of the United States full immunity for official actions taken in Trump v. United States. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Trump v. United States, the United States Supreme Court rules that former presidents are immune from criminal prosecutions of official acts.
News source(s): Supreme Court CBS News The Hill
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  • Oppose — This is a standard and expected ruling that has no personal significance to the country, unlike Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 14:39, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose per above. Totally irrelevant for ITN. _-_Alsor ( talk) 14:58, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose not suitable for the ITN and the main page. PrinceofPunjab TALK 15:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose because it's an ongoing event as part of a larger legal process (Trump indictments) and wasn't a conviction or acquittal like the New York trial. It's not suitable for ITN. JohnAdams1800 TALK 15:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support because of the immense significance of this decision. ITN has had an anti-US bias that prevents most posters on here from recognizing the obvious importance of extremely significant news stories for far too long, and the opposition expressed above to one of the most noteworthy Supreme Court decisions in the lifetime of anyone reading this is an exceptionally good illustration of that. IntoThinAir ( talk) 16:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose both the topic and the blurb. The decision is more nuanced than described in the blurb. And ElijahPepe is correct that this is not a "major upset" (to use sports jargon). EvergreenFir (talk) 16:41, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose since this goes back to lower courts to rule what actions are or aren't immune now, which most pundits I've seen will still leave some of the table. If anything, the three decisions to nuke the administrative state (Jarsky, Loper Bright, and corner Post) are actually far more impactful but even then not ITN worthy material. Masem ( t) 17:30, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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RD: Hugh Aldons

Article:  Hugh Aldons ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): The Sunday Observer
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Sri Lankan sportsman who has played field hockey. rugby union and cricket for Sri Lanka. Abishe ( talk) 02:38, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Support IMO meets bare minimum requirement. PrinceofPunjab TALK 13:39, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per PoP but an infobox would be nice. Bremps ... 23:52, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Nadim Mostafa

Article:  Nadim Mostafa ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): The Financial Express
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Article updated
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Bangladeshi BNP politician. Exact DOB needs to be nailed down. -- Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 18:18, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment the article seems to rely heavily on just one news website, needs other sources than that site. PrinceofPunjab TALK 13:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

RD/Blurb: R. Sampanthan

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Article:  R. Sampanthan ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Sri Lankan Politician R. Sampanthan (pictured) whose been in the Parliament for 6 terms ( 1977, 2001, 2004, 2010, 2015, 2020); and as the opposition leader for a term had passed away. ( Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Sri Lankan Politician R. Sampanthan (pictured) whose been in the Parliament for 6 terms with 5 consecutive terms; and as the opposition leader for a term had passed away.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Sri Lankan Politician R. Sampanthan (pictured) whose been in the Parliament for 6 terms with 5 consecutive terms ( 1977, 2001, 2004, 2010, 2015, 2020); and as the opposition leader for a term had passed away.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Former Sri Lankan opposition leader R. Sampanthan dies at 91.
News source(s): The Hindu, BBC, Newswire
Credits:

Article updated
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Sri Lankan politician. Been in the parliament for 6 terms, and as opposition leader for 1 term. Vestrian24Bio ( TALK) 02:21, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Blurb is a bit much for a Leader of the Opposition. Bremps ... 02:47, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
He is one of the most important political figures in the country. Vestrian24Bio ( TALK) 02:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Well, was. So far, his article doesn't seem to reflect that he was a supposedly transformative figure, but it might just be due to omissions. Bremps ... 03:38, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose blurb, leading the opposition in parliament for a term isn't really blurb-worthy. If a blurb has to be chosen, altblurb 3 is the most concise and fluff-free. Chaotic Enby ( talk · contribs) 03:03, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose blurb Nowhere close to the expected type of coverage/content to describe being a "great figure" in Sri Lanka politics. Perhaps important being the opposition leader, but that doesn't equate to "great". -- Masem ( t) 03:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support RD The prose and citations are there for an RD mention; the very few uncited statements are not controversial. A blurb is obviously not going to happen and is not worth discussing. -- Kicking222 ( talk) 08:25, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Support RD article is good enough to be posted in the RD, but being an leader of opposition is not a blurb worthy position. PrinceofPunjab TALK 13:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose blurb - I don't think we'd generally consider a blurb for a politician who had never actually led a nation or government from any country. I wouldn't, at least. Politics is an important field, as I often say, but this isn't being at the top of it. GenevieveDEon ( talk) 22:02, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Blurb is out of the question but support RD. Let's focus on article quality from here on out. Bremps ... 03:14, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose. Not a political figure that we blurb. BilboBeggins ( talk) 16:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Mauritanian presidential election

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Article:  2024 Mauritanian presidential election ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Mohamed Ould Ghazouani (pictured) is reelected in the Mauritanian presidential election. ( Post)
News source(s): BBC
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Technically it isn't, as ITNELECTIONS only lists changes in the holder of office as ITNR, whereas this is a reelection. However, it should be ITNR, and there is ongoing dicsussion on how we should amend ITNELECTIONS. Gödel2200 ( talk) 13:13, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Comment although I like tables, it needs more prose. -- Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 04:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

2024 Borno State bombings

Article:  2024 Borno State bombings ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 30 people were killed and over 100 injured in suicide bombings in Borno State, Nigeria. ( Post)
News source(s): The New York Times Vanguard
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Article will need work. Staraction ( talk | contribs) 21:13, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Oppose for now Who, what, where, when, why and how? What, where, when and how are answered, leaving who and why (though we have a pretty good guess). Ping me if both are answered, if so, I'll support this being posted as this is a major attack. Bremps ... 02:54, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Pål Enger

Article:  Pål Enger ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): NRK, Dagbladet
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Article updated
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Norwegian footballer and art thief (stole the The Scream!). Will not be posted in current state, needs lots of citations if anyone wants to tackle. -- Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 18:30, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Princess Lalla Latifa Amahzoune

Article:  Lalla Latifa Amahzoune ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): APA News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

princess widow of King Hassan II, mother of the current King of Morocco Mohammed VI. Article is short (she had a very discreet role and it seems that little is known about her), but almost ready. _-_Alsor ( talk) 10:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply

(Posted) 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup final

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Article:  2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup final ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In cricket, India win the T20 World Cup by defeating South Africa in the final (player of the final Virat Kohli pictured). ( Post)
News source(s): CNN, BBC, Reuters, Al Jazeera The Washington Post
Credits:

Article updated
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14.139.34.101 ( talk) 18:36, 29 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment Licensing info for the image on the page for the cup is a bit fishy. Bremps ... 05:55, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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RD: Lando Bartolini

Article:  Lando Bartolini ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): Corriere del Ticino (in Italian)
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Article updated
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Italian tenor of international fame, had a stub of an article with 2 tags. There's still more in Italian if someone has the time. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 14:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

(Posted) RD: Mohamed Osman Jawari

Article:  Mohamed Osman Jawari ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): Garowe Online
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Article updated
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Speaker of the Federal Parliament of Somalia and briefly acting President of Somalia -- Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 05:20, 29 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Please post, @ Admins willing to post ITN: Bremps ... 18:42, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Orlando Cepeda

Article:  Orlando Cepeda ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): Yahoo! Sports
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Natg 19 ( talk) 03:47, 29 June 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Support: Death is reliably sourced. Article is reasonably complete and well-referenced, with no major issues apparent, tagged, or mentioned on the talk page. jlwoodwa ( talk) 04:55, 29 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Not ready, I CN tagged some the areas needing an inline citation -- usually when there was not a source after a couple of sentences. I do not doubt they are the same citations used elsewhere in the same section, but lots of factual claims being made without an inline follow up. Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 05:11, 29 June 2024 (UTC) reply

2024 Mongolian parliamentary election

Article:  2024 Mongolian parliamentary election ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The ruling MPP party secures a slim majority in the 2024 Mongolian parliamentary election. ( Post)
News source(s): The Associated Press
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The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Article has a few outstanding tags. Staraction ( talk | contribs) 20:58, 28 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Scu ba, see the end of the first and second paragraphs of the background section. The second paragraph is the one with no sources. Gödel2200 ( talk) 20:50, 29 June 2024 (UTC) reply
I see it now, looks like it was initially added in the .ru version which was then copied and translated to the .en version 01:52, 30 June 2024 (UTC) Scu ba ( talk) 01:52, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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RD: Martin Mull

Article:  Martin Mull ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): The New York Times, Variety, Associated Press, NPR
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Staraction ( talk | contribs) 03:07, 29 June 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Landry Nguémo

Article:  Landry Nguémo ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): BBC, L'Équipe, Goal.com, The Scotsman
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Former footballer who represented Cameroon at senior international level, and played for Nancy, Celtic and Bordeaux, among other clubs. Unfortunately, the article is still in poor shape, and might use some more citations, but it's definitely nothing "unfixable".  Oltrepier ( talk) 19:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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RD: Kinky Friedman

Article:  Kinky Friedman ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): Texas Tribune, Rolling Stone
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Article updated
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American musician, satirist, and politician. Has orange banner, needs some more sources. -- Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 16:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Oppose discography and Writing career sections are almost entirely unsourced. PrinceofPunjab TALK 12:51, 28 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose overreliance on one and two sentence paragraphs. Also what PrinceofPunjab said. Bremps ... 06:02, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Sergei Berezin

Article:  Sergei Berezin ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): Toronto Sun, CBC
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Article updated
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Russian professional ice hockey player. Pretty good shape. -- Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 16:19, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Support looks alright to me and before anyone say that Career statistics section is unsourced, the source is in the external link section. PrinceofPunjab TALK 12:53, 28 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • The infobox and stats table indicate that the subject represented his country on multiple occasions, but the prose lack materials on his international career. This gap in coverage needs to be filled. -- PFHLai ( talk) 15:10, 29 June 2024 (UTC) reply

(Ready) RD: Jackie Clarkson

Article:  Jackie Clarkson ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): NOLA
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Article updated
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American politician: Louisiana House of Representatives and New Orleans City Council. Could do with a few more citations. -- Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 16:08, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Wait some paragraphs end without any footnotes. PrinceofPunjab TALK 12:54, 28 June 2024 (UTC) reply
@ PrinceofPunjab, take a look now. -- Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 06:37, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Support ready now. PrinceofPunjab TALK 06:47, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply

(Posted) Bolivian coup attempt

Articles:  2024 Bolivian coup d'état attempt ( talk · history · tag) and Juan José Zúñiga ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Bolivia, an army under the command of Juan José Zúñiga storms the presidential palace in an attempted coup. ( Post)
News source(s): Bloomberg , BBC
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Nominator's comments: Fresh news story, Bolivia appears to have underwent a coup attempt from a local General. — Knightof theswords 20:39, 26 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Support on notability, but Zúñiga's article is still a one-sentence stub for now. Chaotic Enby ( talk · contribs) 20:51, 26 June 2024 (UTC) reply
The article is already a little bit longer now, although it can still very much be improved. Given the importance and recency of the situation, it should be okay for posting. Chaotic Enby ( talk · contribs) 21:34, 26 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Support on notability, I wonder where this one goes. BilboBeggins ( talk) 21:19, 26 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Support - it has a dozen WP:RS citations now. It's still a work in progress, but it's only a matter of time before this gets to the front page. A short amount of time, if you ask me. Kire1975 ( talk) 21:40, 26 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Support, notable and the article seems good Personisinsterest ( talk) 22:12, 26 June 2024 (UTC) reply
The long term historical record may be, but since the CIA stopped doing that sort of thing, they are rare in South America now too. HiLo48 ( talk) 06:22, 29 June 2024 (UTC) reply
support on notability coups a rare thing nowadays Kasperquickly ( talk) 00:31, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Not really. Bremps ... 19:43, 28 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Not to bludgeon my point, but there were two coups in 2022, one foiled plot in 2023, another foiled one in 2024, and another brewing on the horizon in Burkina Faso alone. Not to mention Niger, Tunisia, Chad, etc. There's a coup epidemic. Bremps ... 21:48, 28 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Wrong continent. HiLo48 ( talk) 06:24, 29 June 2024 (UTC) reply
User:Kasperquickly should have specified that they meant only South American coups, then. They spoke about coups generally. Bremps ... 07:49, 29 June 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Bakhyt Kenjeev

Article:  Bakhyt Kenjeev ( talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination ( Post)
News source(s): Meduza
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A renowned Kazakh-born Russian poet, a founding member of the "Moscow Time" group of Soviet underground poets. Recipient of several notable Russian literary prizes, said to have been nominated for the Nobel prize.

(Closed) ICC issues arrest warrants for Russia's Shoigu and Gerasimov

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Article:  War crimes in the Russian invasion of Ukraine ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The ICC has issued arrest warrants for the Russian army chief and former defense minister for war crimes in Ukraine. ( Post)
News source(s): Reuters, VOA, NY Times
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Ainty Painty ( talk) 06:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose - total of one sentence in the entire bolded article referencing the news item. Not to get WP:CRYSTALBALL, but this is a symbolic move that likely will not have many consequences, similar to Putin's arrest warrant (other than restricting travel). In particular, the NYT article states, "That makes it highly unlikely that Mr. Shoigu and General Gerasimov will be taken into custody in the foreseeable future". Also covered by the Ongoing section; could be considered part of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Finally, another article for the arrest warrants does not yet exist (as exists at International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Vladimir Putin and Maria Lvova-Belova), and including that article in the blurb, or at least mentioning the subjects of the warrants, would be more appropriate. Staraction ( talk | contribs) 06:27, 26 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose The last time ITN was fooled into posting something like this, the most significant consequence was Main Page readers having to look at Putin smiling at them for an unreasonably (and perhaps uncomfortably) long time; I don't know what these guys look like, but I'm pretty anyone smiling in an official portrait is the entirely wrong look for this harmless-yet-ill-intended sort of news. InedibleHulk ( talk) 06:56, 26 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose Putin was one thing as a sitting head of state, this is comparatively far less important. The Kip ( contribs) 06:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose Putin story was notable as it was the head of the state but Army chief is not that notable. PrinceofPunjab TALK 09:06, 26 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose - As PrinceOfPunjab says, Putin was worth posting as head of state, but this is a subsidiary matter and not suitable for ITN. It very much falls under Ongoing. GenevieveDEon ( talk) 11:03, 26 June 2024 (UTC) reply
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(Closed) 2024 NEET controversy

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Article:  2024 NEET controversy ( talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  Outrage and protests erupt in India regarding irregularities surrounding the results of the National Eligibility-cum-Entrance Test (NEET) ( Post)
News source(s): BBC
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Needs better blurb. Rushtheeditor( talk) 00:01, 26 June 2024 (UTC) reply
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