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isnt it an issue to citate stories which are behind paywalls? the BBC for instance is used a lot, however clicking on some of their links from the uk without a tv licence can end us up in court. Ive seen other stories also with sources only viewable if you signup or subscribe / pay to access. Surely we can use sources that are free? its like this site is now useful only to the rich and mega corporations, as one of the main sites in the world, its clearly making the world worse overall by closing down to a few verified sources & focusing on specific stories even when worse or more important stories occur. Surely someone will no doubt come back with a link to wikipedias rules or whatever but my point is the rules clearly suck & the site is wrecking the world, making the rich richer & the poor poorer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.17.4.48 ( talk) 23:28, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply

I removed this entry earlier on the basis of WP:SENSATIONAL earlier. The entry was restored without discussion by the OP. Should this be included?

In an address to the nation, UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak declares that "democracy is under threat" from Islamism and far-right extremism following the election of George Galloway in the 2024 Rochdale by-election, and threats made against members of parliament over the war in Gaza.

This appears to be a standard speech where an elected official makes typical claims about the current geopolitical climate and criticizes their political opponents. This situation is exacerbated in this case as the official is essentially making remarks with the aim of discrediting a recently elected official.

The OP made the following justifcation when reverting:

Nothing sensational about it. It was a prime time address by a Prime Minister?

It appears that there is a clear misunderstanding of notability in this case. Routine activities, such as statements made by a head of state, are typically not included as they do not meet the criteria for notability. 33ABGirl ( talk) 14:59, 2 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Here's the thing though, the speech by Rishi Sunak was far from routine. The speech itself was a reaction to the election of George Galloway to parliament, which has rocked the politicial establishment, and the ongoing Pro-Palestine protests. As both of these events are notable themselves and have been included on the portal, I'd say the speech is notable enough for inclusion here. GWA88 ( talk) 19:58, 2 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Do you have any policies or guidelines that back up that claim of sufficient notability for inclusion on the portal? You've essentially just repeated what you mentioned previously, making the assertion that the address has sufficient due weight for inclusion based on your own opinion. 33ABGirl ( talk) 05:56, 3 March 2024 (UTC) reply

I have removed the content under discussion since there has been no response from OP based on WP:PAG, or any further response at all, despite OP's regular editing. As no other editors have expressed support for the inclusion of the content, despite the discussion being open for a period of time, please refrain from restoring the content until a consensus is reached. 33ABGirl ( talk) 17:19, 7 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Notifying relevant users: User:JM2023 User:Gianluigi02 User:CoryGlee User:XavierGreen User:Baratiiman User:TruncateVirus99 User:SaintPaulOfTarsus User:Dubstar44 User:Cryptic User:Dantheanimator User:Sundostund User:LonelyBoy2012 User:Jebiguess User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao User:Michael7604.

Please could you give your opinion on the inclusion of this news item on the current events portal. GWA88 ( talk) 00:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply

This looks like a blatant attempt at canvassing through mass pinging of editors. This editor claims that this page is dead, when being watched by over 6,000 other editors. 33ABGirl ( talk) 01:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Absolutey not an attempt at "canvassing", all the editors pinged have been active on the current events portal, most of them on Portal:Current events/2024 March 1, the page of this dispute. I find it in bad faith to automatically assume canvassing, they are free to oppose its inclusion just as much as they are free to support it. GWA88 ( talk) 02:01, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply

• current wikipedia is not a useable or feasable website just go to fediverse.express. Baratiiman ( talk) 06:36, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi to all, especially to both editors in dispute. You know, I hate, really hate arguments and disputes... But I have been pinged. I think that not all speeches are worth-including, for example, I'm sure that a speech from a leader of Zimbabwe would be removed. I've made entries where I've been urged to look for "action" and not "words"... So... I don't know, that's my opinion as far as I can get without getting involved much further. But if agreement is reached on including Mr Sunak's speech, then I would accept it fully. Please consider my opinion as extremely respectful towards everybody. As I said, I hate arguments to the extreme. Have a nice day. CoryGlee ( talk) 09:57, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Note to all involved: As the OP of this thread has escalated this dispute in what appears to be an attempt to get me blocked I will be disengaging from this discussion until the matter is closed. I will support any consensus that is reached. Thank you. GWA88 ( talk) 20:55, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Please add War in Sudan /info/en/?search=War_in_Sudan_(2023%E2%80%93present) and /info/en/?search=M23_offensive_(2022%E2%80%93present) Sh3r1exb ( talk) 02:26, 3 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Several of the blurbs for 2024 March 22 are a paragraph long instead of a sentence. Can we keep them shorter? We don't need to explain the entire event in the blurb. Nosferattus ( talk) 03:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply

There is currently a low-scale edit war on whether to include the release of the Taylor Swift album on Portal:Current events/2024 April 19. I would not have thought this was in dispute, given that we have a firmly established heading for Current events called Arts and culture which would clearly fit the situation. We have consistently added many items here related to film, music, literature, and the like. Yet here we are.

The main charge of Wikipedia:In the news says it "serves to direct readers to articles that have been substantially updated to reflect recent or current events of wide interest. ITN supports the central purpose of Wikipedia—making a great encyclopedia." The release of this album is clearly in scope here.

Therefore, instead of undoing each other, can we please discuss this in a civil manner here, instead of leaving terse and unproductive edit summaries such as: "not notable" or "Promotional, irrelevant" or "not important"? Most of these amount to WP:IDONTLIKEIT. - Fuzheado | Talk 19:30, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

A log of the back and forth:

Fuzheado | Talk 19:30, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

I removed it because it's a release of an album. We don't comment every release of a movie or anyone else's album. The improved one by Pithon314 that expanded on it by saying it was the most-streamed ever makes me more ambivalent about its inclusion.

Also, you're the one who violated BRD by reverting Dubstar44's reversion instead of discussing -- Gimmethegepgun ( talk) 19:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

What you say is common sense. I fully subscribe to what you say. To open a discussion for this... _-_Alsor ( talk) 19:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

You are not a very experienced editor, so I'm going to WP:AGF here. What BRD means is to revert to the status quo (which was my addition) then discuss. The fact is, this is notable, fits within the charge of ITN, and has a long precedent of being newsworthy for Wikipedia. - Fuzheado | Talk 20:01, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

The status quo was the article prior to your bold addition of an album release -- Gimmethegepgun ( talk) 20:07, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks for watching out for promotional content Gimmethegepgun. I agree with you that we should not add simply promotional content to Portal:Current events, hence why I tried to add at least one explanation of its notability in my second re-addition. I wanted to expand upon the explanation of notability of The Tortured Poets Department in a discussion since the blurbs in the portal should remain short. First, this album release was widely covered across many media outlets, here are some I found: CBS News, ABC, NPR, Washington Post, and Reuters. As I mentioned in the second edit, the album broke the record for most-streamed album in a single day and Swift became the most-streamed artist in a single day. As now mentioned in the intro paragraph for The Tortured Poets Department, the album had the largest pre-order sum in the history of the retailer Target. This is Taylor Swift's first non re-recorded album to be released since the start of " Swiftmania" that has had a large economic and cultural impact. The frenzy caused her to become the Time Person of the Year in 2023. For these reasons, many of the sources I list all describe the album has "highly anticipated". These are the main reasons I think that the album release is notable and newsworthy beyond just a promotion. -- Pithon314 ( talk) 07:08, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Neither of the superlatives in the most recent version of the blurb were supported by the cited source. It says the album was the most-streamed on Spotify, not the most-streamed by any service. And it says she broke her own record for Spotify's most-streamed artist in a day - she "became" that in 2023, not now - and, again, the blurb simply said she was the most-streamed artist, not the most-streamed on Spotify. It may well be that in both cases most-streamed-ever-on-Spotify is synonymous with most-streamed-ever - it's even quite likely - but we can't claim that if the cited source doesn't. (I do acknowledge that you properly qualified the initial versions of these claims with "On Spotify," but that got removed.) — Cryptic 13:43, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks for that catch, I meant to include the "On Spotify" qualifier in my comment here as well. I would support a version like this then: " Taylor Swift releases her new album The Tortured Poets Department as a double album. On Spotify, the album breaks the record for most-streamed album in a single day and Swift breaks the record for most-streamed artist in a single day. (CBS News)" so that it is clear that these records are specific to Spotify and not necessarily all streaming. This version is based off my second re-addition (edit [9]) except I fixed the wording to just say she broke the record for most-streamed artist and not that she became it. -- Pithon314 ( talk) 19:51, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply