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Category:Unreal Engine 5 games

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Category:Ministerial departments of the Sierra Leone Government

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 15:09, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining distinction that doesn't help navigation Mason ( talk) 20:14, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Oxford University Press Delegate

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Category:Block books

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 15:10, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This category is not helpful navigation. It contains the epon article and one book. As described on the category page, this does not seem like a defining feature... "Block books or blockbooks, also called xylographica, are short books of up to 50 leaves, block printed in Europe in the second half of the 15th century as woodcuts with blocks carved to include both text (usually) and illustrations." Mason ( talk) 20:01, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Ipswich town preachers

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Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC and friends

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Category:Georgetown College (Kentucky)

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Georgetown College. Unopposed for two weeks. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:40, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: In line with the main article, Georgetown College. Graham ( talk) 02:08, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Deaths from food poisoning

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Deaths from foodborne illnesses * Pppery * it has begun... 22:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Conflict in naming conventions between Category:Deaths from digestive disease and Category:Deaths from infectious disease; and Category:Deaths by poisoning. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 20:45, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose – I think we mostly use "deaths by" for intentional killings, "deaths from" or "deaths due to" where there was no intention. The current name seems to be natural English, but Category:Deaths due to food poisoning sounds OK as an alternative. – Fayenatic London 10:50, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:American people of Arab descent

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The result of the discussion was: delete. This is a classic WP:1AM scenario; after extended discussion Bohemian Baltimore has not convinced anyone to support their position. I will also remind participants on both sides that this is a content form, and as such comments about other editors and their actions/good faith/etc. are not helpful and impede the consensus process. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 23:21, 31 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Empty category, fork of the Category:American people of Middle Eastern descent. Aldij ( talk) 15:34, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all, the single article is already in Category:American politicians of Lebanese descent and it isn't even about someone of Arab descent. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:31, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Marcocapelle Apparently this category was deleted previously. Where is the deletion discussion for that? Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 10:55, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Marcocapelle Never mind. I found it. As I expected, a quickie deletion with very little input and seemingly no input from Arabs. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 10:57, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose I would like to register my shock and disbelief that Arab American and Arab diaspora categories are slowly and systematically being deleted across Wikipedia, often with little input (from anyone, let alone Arabs). It is a massive erasure of Arabs and Arab Americans. I do regard it as unjust, rash, and enormously racist. These are major changes and there needs to be major discussion. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 10:44, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It has nothing to do with racism. Arab descent is difficult to verify because they are the majority ethnicity of the Middle East and North Africa. Sources are more explicit about minorities. Likewise we do not categorize people by European-American descent. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:13, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Marcocapelle "Arab descent is difficult to verify". Really? Is it difficult to verify that " a proud and unapologetic Arab American woman" such as Rashida Tlaib is Arab? Is it a mystery whether John Sununu ("I'm proud of my heritage as an Arab American") was an Arab? Is it a secret that Casey Kasem was proudly Arab? Arab Americans are a minority in the US; being an Arab American is not at all the same as being a European-American. "Arab American" is a real minority identity in the US, and not all Arab Americans identify with Orientalist terminology like "Middle Eastern". Unlike other minorities like Native Americans or Jewish Americans or African Americans, who do have categories, all the Arab categories are being deleted lest a few people from the Arab world be from non-Arab backgrounds. The categories weren't even sorted, so someone like Rashida Tlaib wasn't placed into the category for Category:American politicians of Arab descent. The category was simply deleted. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 11:48, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    • The proper analogy is between people of Arab descent in the United States and people of European-American descent in Australia. We are talking about people who descend from ancestors who were in the majority in another part of the world. Another example is people of Han Chinese descent in Germany, which we do not do either. In most cases we just have the ancestor's nationality anyway, Egyptian or Lebanese or whatever. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:07, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
      There's a vast body of literature and research about "Arab Americans". There are numerous organizations, events, celebrations, and so forth that are explicitly Arab-American. Multiple state Democratic parties have an Arab caucus. There's no such parallel with "Han Americans". That comparison makes no sense. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 12:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
      • That just proves that there is sufficient content for the topic Arab American. It does not prove that someone of Lebanese descent is automatically also of Arab descent. Marcocapelle ( talk) 10:52, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply
      We must immediately purge and delete all of the Hispanic/Latino categories. Category:American politicians of Mexican descent must be removed from its parent category, Category:Hispanic and Latino American politicians. Think about all those Nahuas and Oaxacans and Mormons and Plautdietsch-speaking Mennonites who might be miscategorized. Or do we only apply such micro-scrutiny to Arabs? Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 13:04, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
      @ Bohemian Baltimore, Mexican is a nationality like Egyptian and Tusinian is a nationality. Arab is not. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 15:12, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
      Hispanic or Latino isn't a nationality either. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 01:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply
      @ Bohemian Baltimore, neither is "Middle Eastern" or "North African" which is why those are container categories for countries in those regions like "Hispanic and Latino". Omnis Scientia ( talk) 08:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • @ Smasongarrison and Omnis Scientia: pinging contributors to previous discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:03, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Delete all per nom. "Middle Eastern" is more appropriate and inclusive than "Arab" and still includes Arab nationalities as well which are NOT being erased at all. The article " Arab Americans" also notes that people who are seen as "Arab Americans" may actually not be ethnically Arab but rather from Arab countries and of non-Arab ethnicity. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 11:26, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Omnis Scientia Not all Arab Americans are Middle Eastern, nor do all Arab Americans from Western Asia identify with Western-centric terms like "Middle Eastern". Arab-American is a legitimate identity and culture in the US. Nor does this argument explain why, say, individual Arab American politicians couldn't be placed into the category for American politicians of Arab descent, which was simply purged and deleted. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 11:52, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Bohemian Baltimore, do you not think the " Arab world" is also a Western-centric phrase as well? Because "people of Arab descent" in these categories weren't necessarily ethnically Arab, they were from Arab countries. I think they would describe themselves as being from whichever country they came from. You gave the example of Rashida Tlaib. She calls herself "Palestinian American". Same is the case with Ilhan Omar who is "Somalian American". Omnis Scientia ( talk) 12:26, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Omnis Scientia I can quite confidently assert that the Arab League is an Arab invention, not a Western invention. To be more specific than "Western-centric", the term is certainly Orientalist; east of what? As I previously asked, why were the categories deleted rather than individual verifiable Arabs placed into the categories? We don't delete all the Hispanic/Latino categories in the US because, well, maybe not everyone of Latin American origins self-identifies as Hispanic or Latino (maybe that person from Mexico identifies as an Aztec or a Russian Mennonite), and besides, Hispanics are the majority in Latin America anyway, so Hispanics aren't really a minority group in the US. Only Arabs seem to earn this sort of pedantry. I don't see anyone nominating Category:Hispanic and Latino American politicians for deletion lest we possibly offend Plautdietsch or Kʼicheʼ sensibilities. Arab American identity exists and is socially and politically relevant in the US, regardless of how others may feel. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 12:53, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Bohemian Baltimore, we aren't deleting that because "Hispanic and Latino" is a container for Latin and Hispanic American countries like "Middle Eastern" and "North African" is to Arab nations. Also why do you think Latin Americans aren't a minority in the United States? An odd thing to say. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 12:58, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Read it again. Arabs and Latinos are both minorities in the US. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 13:06, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    "Hispanic and Latino Americans" are a container group for people from Latin American countries just like "Middle Eastern Americans" are a container group for people from Middle Eastern countries. Stop engaging in such bad faith arguments. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 15:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Omnis Scientia Please, Wikipedia:Assume good faith. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 03:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Bohemian Baltimore, I did and I still am - I understand where you're coming from as well. I just feel your "Let's delete Latino categories" argument is not in good faith. Its not the point of what we're discussing here. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 09:09, 22 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Not to mention they are two different groups of people with two different types of history so your example amounts to false equivalence. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 13:00, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    And the rest of what I said? Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 13:08, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Central African Republic people

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Category:Caucasus Jews

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Category:British people of Tajik descent

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:21, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: 1 article category Gjs238 ( talk) 12:51, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Merge/delete. Being "Clearly part of a detailed and comprehensive category tree". is not a sufficiently good reason to keep a category. It rewards categories that are old, rather than categories that are useful. Mason ( talk) 12:53, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge/delete: 1-article category Gjs238 ( talk) 14:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Canadian people of Tajik descent

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:20, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: 1 article category Gjs238 ( talk) 12:52, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Clearly part of a detailed and comprehensive category tree. No purpose whatsoever served by deletion. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 13:06, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge or delete, the category does not contain any biography. The topic article is already in Category:Asian diaspora in Canada where it properly belongs. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:45, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Merge/delete. Being "Clearly part of a detailed and comprehensive category tree". is not a sufficiently good reason to keep a category. It rewards categories that are old, rather than categories that are useful. Mason ( talk) 12:53, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge/delete: 1-article category Gjs238 ( talk) 14:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:People of West Asian descent

Nominator's rationale: This category tree is not needed. Western Asia is often conflated with the Middle East. Western Asia includes the South Caucasus but does not include Egypt (outside the Sinai Peninsula) and Turkish Thrace (geographically in Southeast Europe). Now "West Asian descent" categories merely serve as containers for "Middle East descent" and "Caucasus descent." However, these classifications are not entirely accurate. The term "People of Middle East descent" includes individuals from the African part of Egypt and Turkish Thrace in Europe, while "People of Caucasus descent" encompasses individuals from the North Caucasus in Europe. Aldij ( talk) 09:55, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge to Asian parent categories. I agree that West Asia and Middle East are largely overlapping and we do not need both. However, it does not make sense to remove the content from the Asian tree. Marcocapelle ( talk) 14:04, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Agree, merge to Asian parent categories is better. Aldij ( talk) 14:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Merging to Asian parent categories is my second choice per Marco. NLeeuw ( talk) 21:18, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment First, Category:Canadian people of West Asian descent has been emptied. Secondly, if we have categories for South Asia and Southeast Asia, wouldn't it make more sense to keep West Asia and dump the "Middle East" categories instead? They both are a little imprecise but what would make more sense fitting in with the existing geographic categorization? Liz Read! Talk! 19:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
I believe it would be better to merge the category trees of South Asia and Southeast Asia into Asia as well. I will nominate them separately now. Regarding the decision to discard the "Middle East" categories, I'm not certain there is consensus for this, nor am I sure whether I will personally support it. However, perhaps they need to be deleted as well. Aldij ( talk) 15:59, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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@ Aldij, I would oppose deletion of "South Asia" categories since that is the region's name. "West Asia" is covered by the "Middle East". Omnis Scientia ( talk) 21:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
There are plenty of locations that could be considered to be in West Asia that are no where near the Middle East, that are on the Europe-Asia border. Liz Read! Talk! 20:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)C reply
@ Liz in principle, I am not opposed to your suggestion of merging the categories of Middle Eastern people into the categories for West Asian people. However, this clearly requires a separate discussion, as the category:Middle Eastern people contains many different subcategories. I fear that the term "Middle East" is more commonly used than "West Asia." In any case, the main point of my proposal, and the most important one, is the unification of the two trees. The specific name chosen is not so important.
P.S. I have only nominated Category:People of West Asian descent so far. Once consensus is reached, I will nominate either the Category:Middle Eastern people tree or the Category:West Asian people tree, depending on the result of this discussion. Aldij ( talk) 07:44, 29 May 2024 (UTC) reply

IIHF Ice Hockey Women's World Championships

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:18, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Harmonizing subcategory names in the Category:IIHF Ice Hockey Women's World Championship. Please see also the previous discussion here. Maiō T. ( talk) 17:52, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Support. The nomenclature aligns with the official name of the tournament as used by the IIHF. Spitzmauskc ( talk) 15:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose. The naming is unnecessarily redundant. The proposal is equivalent to "1999 International Ice Hockey Federation Ice Hockey Women's World Championships". What logical reason is there to say ice hockey twice? Seems like the parent category should be discussed, not the children. Flibirigit ( talk) 11:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    The IIHF uses "IIHF Ice Hockey Women's World Championship" on all official documentation. I suspect the inclusion of 'Ice Hockey' has its roots in the period during which the IIHF also organized the IIHF Inline Hockey World Championship. While I don’t disagree that the name may read as redundant, I do see value in maintaining the official name and feel the inclusion of 'Ice Hockey' is a helpful indicator for readers who may not be familiar with the IIHF acronym. Spitzmauskc ( talk) 19:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Arab diaspora in the Middle East

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:18, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Not all individuals from countries such as Egypt, Iraq, Palestine, Syria, and Lebanon self-identify as Arabs. Therefore, this categorization may be misleading and fail to accurately reflect the diverse ethnic and national identities of people from these regions. Additionally, the term "diaspora" refers to a community of people who live outside their place of origin or ancestry. However, since Arabs are indigenous to the Middle East, the use of "diaspora" in this context can be confusing and inaccurate. Aldij ( talk) 09:45, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Mexican people of Arab descent

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:18, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Small category, I propose to upmerge into category:Mexican people of Middle Eastern descent. Aldij ( talk) 09:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom, and it is not even sure if these people are of Arab descent. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar)

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The result of the discussion was: soft delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, only contains the eponymous article and a subcategory. The subcategory suffices. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:41, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Fiddlers from Sweden

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I think these categories should be merged because frankly it's confusing to have two swedish categories Mason ( talk) 04:55, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Rename of Alien invasions in media et al.

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The result of the discussion was: rename all. @ Zxcvbnm, feel free to nominate the "Alien visitations" categories for merging. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Rename per several past renames, in order to make it clear that these categories are for media that are about alien invasions and such, not where such things make potentially trivial appearances. DonIago ( talk) 02:31, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support. Surely we dont want [Category:Alien visitations in fiction] be populated with novels where, like, "Hey Bob, Pete says he was visited by aliens. He must be drinking" - Altenmann >talk
  • Rename, stressing that it should be a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:45, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Rename all except "alien visitations", which should be upmerged as overly vague - alien visitation is a disambiguation page. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 10:13, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose: Trivial examples can already be removed with the current names and related guidelines. Cambalachero ( talk) 12:57, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    I don't see how this is an argument against renaming the categories? This discussion is consistent with multiple recent category renamings as noted in the rationale. A few of them: [1], [2], [3], [4]. DonIago ( talk) 13:32, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Rename all, and I agree with DonIago's comment about how purging doesn't address the question at hand. Mason ( talk) 12:55, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Rename all in line with numerous precedents, like that time I launched around 14 bulk nominations of this type. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 18:27, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    14 is pretty impressive, though I'd say 29 is more impressive. Not that it's a competition. ;p DonIago ( talk) 13:14, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Comic book editors

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Category:Franz von Sickingen

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 15:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This category only contains the Franz von Sickingen, who was a leader of the Knights' War and the category of the conflict. I think that they should either be merged or this category should be deleted. It really doesn't help navigation. Mason ( talk) 00:59, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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May 14

Category:Soda Den games

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 23:30, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I am not sure if categories with a single page (or less than a few) is allowed. Therefore, I am bringing this to discussion. I am putting Category:Amstrad video games and Category:BlankMediaGames games for the same reason, since Twinkle (the userscript) doesn't me do that. JuniperChill ( talk) 21:57, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
I wanted to mention 'Category:BlankMediaGames games' and one other but for some reason, it isn't appearing. JuniperChill ( talk) 21:59, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Art festivals in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The name is too similar to Category:Arts festivals in the United States, creating confusion about which articles and categories belong in which. Vegantics ( talk) 17:42, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose -- Upon further research I now understand that this is a (admittedly confusing) standard across Wikipedia. I'm not sure if I can retract a discussion but no longer feel the discussion is needed. Vegantics ( talk) 18:03, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Vegantics As nominator, you can vote Withdraw, as long as nobody has given a vote in support of your proposal. Then the discussion will be speedily closed. :) NLeeuw ( talk) 18:32, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Thank you! I appreciate your help. Vegantics ( talk) 18:33, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Question Seems okay, but we don't have any Category:Visual arts festivals cat (tree) yet. Does it overlap with Category:Visual arts competitions, Category:Visual arts conferences and/or Category:Visual arts exhibitions? The latter has Category:Art festivals as a child, so that seems to be an apt parent. On the other hand, do all current items in Category:Art festivals in the United States fit the "visual arts" domain? Category:Arts festivals by type suggests a lot of other domains. If you could answer those questions, we might have a better idea what you are proposing. NLeeuw ( talk) 18:01, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    I appreciate the questions. In reviewing Category:Art festivals in the United States, which is described as intended for "festivals focused on the visual arts," I noticed some articles which do not seem applicable. I suspect this is because editors made the same mistake that I did of confusing it with Category:Arts festivals in the United States. However I now realize that this is a bigger standard across Wikipedia and would require a much larger, more extensive discussion. Vegantics ( talk) 18:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    You're welcome. Would you like to start somewhere else, or could we use this case as an example to set a precedent for future discussions? I should add I've never been to the United States and visuals arts are quite outside my area of expertise (hence the questions for clarification), but I would like to help you out in finding the best way of categorising all these articles. Personally, I find the current category tree quite confusing, so it's a good idea to discuss how we could improve it. NLeeuw ( talk) 18:19, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    I think it does need to be addressed, but I want to do some additional research into how extensive this is and how much renaming would be required. I'm not equipped to lead such a discussion and would rather drop it for the time being. Vegantics ( talk) 18:22, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    That's okay. As I said above, you can vote to Withdraw your own proposal. Take your time to your time to work out what you would like to discuss, and then come back some time with a new proposal. Good luck! NLeeuw ( talk) 18:35, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Withdraw Upon further research I now understand that this is a (admittedly confusing) standard across Wikipedia. Vegantics ( talk) 18:34, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:United States politicians killed during the Civil War

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:25, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: per article title American Civil War. This was opposed for speedy. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
copy of speedy discussion

@ AHI-3000 and Ymblanter: pinging contributors to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:09, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Support per nom. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 14:48, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Conditional support per nom, but I need clarifications first: why is "United States" proposed to be omitted? So that it could also include Confederate politicians and perhaps foreign politicians who somehow got killed in the ACW? That would mean it no longer fits in the Category:20th-century American politicians (should be Category:19th-century American politicians), and more broadly the Category:American people tree, since Confederates and foreigners were arguably not "United States citizens" for the duration of the ACW (at least from the Confederate POV). In fact, I see the category currently already contains Confederate politicians, so removing "United States" is a good idea, but then we should remove Category:20th-century American politicians as a parent. But that may be a bit too legally speaking on my part . NLeeuw ( talk) 18:13, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Zzap!64 Gold Medal Award winners

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:40, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: A category for winners of "Gold Medal", awarded by a video game magazine. No article on it. See also this discussion. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 04:16, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:UCLA Department of Earth Planetary and Space Sciences alumni

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 23:35, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Degrees from a school within a university may be defining, a degree from a specific department isn't typically defining. See for a similar case Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_September_23#Category:Harvard_University_Department_of_Psychology_alumni Mason ( talk) 04:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Ship names with ukrainian origin

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:40, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:TRIVIALCAT. Mellk ( talk) 03:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:01, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. (But if kept, it should be renamed to "Ukrainian") Mason ( talk) 04:16, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Paintings of Hebrew Bible themes

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Category:Tokyo Musashino United FC

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Yokogawa Musashino FC. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:24, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON * Pppery * it has begun... 00:59, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:05, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • That ping was munged so I didn't get it, but I have no objection to keeping and renaming now. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:21, 24 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Architects

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The result of the discussion was: delete/rename as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 23:31, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OCEPON. These categories only contain an eponymous article and a subcategory, so having the subcategory suffices. Marcocapelle ( talk) 14:46, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. Mason ( talk) 01:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Ossetian male writers

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The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 01:28, 24 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Non-defining intersection between ethnicity, occupation, and gender. Mason ( talk) 16:56, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose; we already have similar categories of ethnciity/occuptation/gender, such as Category:African-American male writers, Category:Yoruba women writers, and Category:Basque women writers. Categorizing writers by gender and nationality is quite common as well; see Category:Male writers by nationality. ForsythiaJo ( talk) 17:32, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Merge per nom and Marco. EGRS is not a WP:OTHERCATSEXIST thing: we need to know that being male, ossetian, and a writer is a defining intersection. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:43, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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May 13

California articles missing geocoordinate data

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts ( talk) 00:25, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: There's no longer a need for these by-county maintenance categories. They were created 15 years ago when the backlog was much larger and separating by county was useful. The backlog has been greatly reduced; at the moment, every one of these categories is empty. (Special thanks to User:Oona Wikiwalker who has added a lot of coordinates recently.) The rate of new California-related articles is low enough that the statewide category is sufficient. Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 20:35, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Pardon me, but where have the remaining articles been moved to? I can't seem to find them.
And thank you for the kind words! Oona Wikiwalker ( talk) 21:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Oona Wikiwalker: I removed the last remaining articles today by adding coordinates to some and removing the others that didn't need coordinates. There are currently no California-related articles that have been tagged as needing coordinates. Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 21:34, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
How do you determine which articles don't need coordinates? I suspect I've wasted a lot of effort on pages that didn't need coordinates... Oona Wikiwalker ( talk) 03:25, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete Some US counties are very small in area or population. For example, the category tree for Alpine County, California, has only 194 articles according to Petscan — this county has only about 1,000 people and is smaller in area than most counties in Texas. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 01:27, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete as per nomination, although if these are now empty categories wouldn't CSD C1 have been quicker and more apporpriate? Adam Black talk • contributions 22:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Adam Black GB: The guidelines for C1 seem to exclude occasionally-empty maintenance categories; this is a somewhat uncommon case of those categories no longer being needed. I figured it was better to bring to CfD than risk confusion with CSD. Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 22:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Ah, I see. From my reading of it I thought C1 could be used if the maintenance category templates weren't on the page. Adam Black talk • contributions 22:37, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Trinitrotoluene

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts ( talk) 00:25, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category name should be consistent with the title of the article TNT. HertzDonuts ( talk) 17:48, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose, as there are lots of meanings. Unlike articles, where it's easy to find and correct mislinking ("TNT" but not the chemical meaning), cats are less well patrolled, harder to notice, and and create more problems when mis-set. In fact, the original Category:TNT was about the Russian TV channel even though the the chemical article was already at TNT. WP:MOSCAT notes:
"Avoid abbreviations. Example: "Category:Military equipment of World War II", not "Category:Military equipment of WW2". However, acronyms that have become the official, or generally used, name (such as NATO) should be used where there are no other conflicts."
and in this case the name is not "official", just COMMONNAME and there is a conflict. I have no objection to {{ Category disambiguation}} or similar solution (I see that Category:Disambiguation categories does have other entries where the eponymous page is a redirect to a better-named article). DMacks ( talk) 19:50, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Note: Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemicals notified of this discussion. DMacks ( talk) 19:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:American communists of the Stalin era

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts ( talk) 00:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:ARBITRARYCAT. Communists in the United States are not necessarily defined by the leader of another country. User:Namiba 17:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Newspapers published in Western Australia by region

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Category:Ernest Cline

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts ( talk) 00:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary layer of categorization. The "works by" category suffices as a top level parent category. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 15:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Electoral reform in Jersey

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts ( talk) 00:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: No need to differentiate the electoral reform referendums from the others. At the very least, have it nested under the referendums in jersey category rather its own separate category alongside it. Saltywalrusprkl ( talk) 14:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Yoruba police officers

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts ( talk) 00:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCEGRS. There are MANY Yoruba occupation categories which could also be nominated. Moreover, many of the people in these categories are put their because of their name, not because sources say that they are Yoruba. User:Namiba 14:10, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Beringia

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The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 01:10, 24 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, anachronistic content, Beringia is a concept from prehistoric geography, but the category only contains current-day geography. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:51, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose Marcocapelle's definition contradicts the maim article Beringia, which defines it as a current region. Dimadick ( talk) 18:52, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It does not. It was one coherent region because the Bering Street was dry land. That is no longer the case. Beringia is not usually on any current-day map. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:35, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Oppose per Dimadick. Nom seems to ignore the fact that the English term Beringia is also used for a present-day region. That it doesn't usually appear on present-day maps is an argument from anecdotal evidence. If nom could demonstrate that the category arbitrarily mixes up past and present in a confusing manner, that would be interesting to consider for a renaming or split, or something. NLeeuw ( talk) 11:39, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Except a spurious touristic source, all sources referenced to are related to prehistory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:22, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Hmmm... wait, I may have judged too soon. NLeeuw ( talk) 22:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. That one source, https://www.nps.gov/subjects/beringia/index.htm, claiming that Beringia still exists today, evidently represents a fringe view not supported by the first 10 other sources I checked. All other language versions also support the idea that it is a region which no longer exists, and equivalent to "Bering Land Bridge". So let's remove that spurious source, and delete the whole category that has nothing to do with the geological, geographical and human migratory aspect of Beringia. NLeeuw ( talk) 22:11, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Battles involving Bengal

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The result of the discussion was: Rename per Fayenatic london, as unopposed. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:08, 24 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, battles are diffused by (former) countries and Bengal was not a country. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:52, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Ok that is a reasonable alternative, but then still the content should be added to Category:Battles involving the Indian kingdoms too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:29, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    • @ Marcocapelle: it should only be a selective merge to that parent, because many of the articles are already in other subcats of that one, and I'm not sure whether the others belong there. I suggest you watch the category and merge any valid missing items yourself if the rename goes through. – Fayenatic London 15:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Pocatello Army Air Base Bombardiers football seasons

Nominator's rationale: Only one page in category. Let'srun ( talk) 16:36, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep; standard cat scheme. Jweiss11 ( talk) 16:37, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:20, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Saying something is standard, so we should keep it, is not a compelling reason. Having only one category is not helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 23:48, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes it is. Parallelism matters and should be considered a central pillar of Wikipedia. If this cat merged as nominated, then 1943 Pocatello Army Air Base Bombardiers football team is lost from the tree at Category:College football seasons by team. User:Let'srun's notations here are becoming tiresome and obstructive. Jweiss11 ( talk) 03:57, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Roman Catholic bishops in Macau

Nominator's rationale: merge, per article List of bishops of Macau, Catholic bishops are primarily bishop of a diocese. This is follow-up on Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_16#Category:16th-century_Roman_Catholic_bishops_in_Portuguese_Macau. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:43, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. Although I'm on the fence about merging to Category:FOO-century Macau people, because not everyone is from Macau. Mason ( talk) 16:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • This category tree is now a big mess.  · There were Catholic bishops who were appointed bishops or titular bishops elsewhere but stationed in Macau, some of them as coadjutor/auxiliary bishops or administrators or governors of this diocese. These bishops were not bearers of the title Bishop of Macau although they were bishops who worked in Macau. Further the diocese covered a much much larger area in the Far East. It's only since the 1950s (or the 1980s if the two parishes in Malacca Malaysia and Singapore are taken into consideration) the Diocese of Macau is coterminous with the present-day territorial extent of Macau. From its founding in the 16th century hundreds of dioceses have been carved out from this diocese. The first proposal regarding Category:Roman Catholic bishops in Macau is therefore opposed.  · Likewise the second and the third proposals for the 19th and 20th century categories are opposed for the reasons as stated above, and that this is also a vote for the restoration of the 16th to 18th century categories. If the 19th and the 20th century categories (and the 16th to 18th century categories as well) were to be merged the target should be Portugal since the territory was over the period a Portuguese province (save for the last twelve days of the 20th century).  · For the fourth proposal on the 21st century category, bear in mind that the bishop does not participate in any conference of bishops or anything similar of the Chinese catholic church, and that the present bishop is not a native of Macau – There is no point to proceed as proposed.  · Overall this is a keep vote (and a vote to clear the mess under the preexisting structure prior to CfD 16 April). 58.152.55.172 ( talk) 12:21, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Comment: To the closer, this IP is WP:HKGW and has been the one making a mess of this and other similar categories. Mason ( talk) 01:06, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • This user labelled me as such with no explanation and I simply don't understand why she gave me such a label. It appears she just labels when she's running out of supporting arguments. I took no part in making this mess. The categories nominated in this CfD or the 16 April one were created by other editors, and I'd done nothing to change them. 58.152.55.172 ( talk) 09:02, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • By all means purge bishops who were appointed bishops or titular bishops elsewhere, but stationed in Macau. If the tree is a mess we simply should have a clean-up. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:27, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep as part of a larger categorisation scheme. Moving articles from categories of dependencies to those of the sovereign powers is not uncontested. 42.200.80.48 ( talk) 12:44, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Fictional animals by taxon

Nominator's rationale: No reason has been given why this unnecessarily WP:NARROWCAT has been created. It only contains two taxons which is not enough to justify an entire separate category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 04:50, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep Category:Fictional animals by taxon, but merge Category:Fictional invertebrates and Category:Fictional vertebrates into Category:Fictional animals by taxon. AHI-3000 ( talk) 05:08, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Ultimately doing that is just shuffling around deck chairs and makes no real difference. But I think the more longstanding categories (since 2006) should take precedence over your new 2024 category, not things be merged just because you want your category to be prominent. You have just stated an opinion but not provided a reason to back why taxon is better than the vertebrate/invertebrate split. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 09:45, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Zxcvbnm: My suggestion is to leave "Fictional animals by taxon" with 8 subcategories instead of 2, if your only argument is that it's too small right now. AHI-3000 ( talk) 21:23, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Both the nominated and the alt proposal could be an improvement, but I prefer the alternative, in order to keep taxa together as a recognizable attrribute. I have tagged the two subcategories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:43, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Marcocapelle: So do you support my suggestion? AHI-3000 ( talk) 21:20, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Merge as originally nominated. The alt proposal is no good because it would leave the articles directly in Category:Fictional invertebrates orphaned and I see no reason true taxonomic category need to be categorized separately from folk taxonomic ones. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:17, 24 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge as originally nominated, per above. -- Aldij ( talk) 09:51, 3 June 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Dimadick:, what do you think about this? AHI-3000 ( talk) 18:51, 3 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom While we can expand the subcategories, I don't really see any need for a category tree about taxons. The way taxonomy works, any particular grouping (clade for example) can have subcategories which would not be visible in the "by taxon" category. Dimadick ( talk) 23:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Category:Jewish communities destroyed in the Holocaust

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:57, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Disclaimer: I would like to say that this is a sensitive topic that should not be treated lightly. I am going to make some observations that seek to address what I see as inappropriate categorisation practices, but I thereby do not seek to deny or diminish or trivialise the severity of The Holocaust. That said: I think this is an WP:ARBITRARYCAT that should be listified, and every entry supported by WP:RS.
Detailed explanation
Firstly: We cannot say that a city or town, which had at some point a "Jewish community" (something which should also be properly defined first in terms of numbers and characteristics) living in it, should in its entirety be included in this category. The precedent Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 27#Category:Hungarian communities in Slovakia comes to mind: a minority community within a populated place or administrative region cannot be WP:DEFINING for the identity of that place or region as a whole. This is a wider issue within the Category:Historic Jewish communities in Europe tree, but also in similar category trees of "communities" that categorise entire places or regions based on a minority of ethnic group X living within its borders.
Secondly, what exactly "destroyed" means is also not clear, as there have also been many Holocaust survivors. Is a "community" only destroyed when 100% of its members did not survive the Holocaust, or is 90% enough? I'm sorry if that seems like a strange or inappropriate question, but it is one we need to ask to avoid having arbitrary percentages, and thus WP:ARBITRARYCATs. It is the same reason why we can't have Category:Fooian-speaking countries just because, say, more than 50% of inhabitants in country X speaks Fooian, because '50%' is arbitrary. (So I had those categories all renamed last year as well).
What "destroyed" means exactly may also vary. A few years ago, there was a long dispute on Dutch Wikipedia about "List of castles destroyed by the French during the Franco-Dutch War" (it had many different titles, all of which were quite arbitrary and untenable; link: nl:Wikipedia:Te beoordelen pagina's/Toegevoegd 20201103#Lijst van kastelen in Nederland, die door de Fransen rond 1672 of 1794 verwoest zijn). There, it turned out that some castles were rather "damaged" than "destroyed", or "demolished" outside of combat, and that a lot of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH was involved in developing the list. Like this category, that list mostly sought to highlight and quantify the extent of the destruction wrought by a group of perpetrators, but failed to properly define what it was exactly about. "Community" is an even vaguer concept than "castle", and how one can "destroy a community" is really a question I would rather like to leave up to sociologists than us category Wikipedians.
If we listify this category, we could at least provide reliable sources in which scholars explain what they mean; categories cannot do that for us. NLeeuw ( talk) 17:10, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, the category contains articles about current-day European cities and towns rather than articles about pre-1945 Jewish communities. No objection against listification per se, but I think this task is far too big for someone to start with on a short term. The category content may be listed at the talk page of a relevant WikiProject before deletion, for someone, or maybe for multiple editors together, to start listifying in their own pace. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    That seems like a good idea. Perhaps the creator @ Eladkarmel is willing to do so? NLeeuw ( talk) 20:32, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete These populated places are not notable for being Jewish communities. Dimadick ( talk) 19:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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@ Dimadick Do you support the proposal to listify before deleting? NLeeuw ( talk) 18:51, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Only if there are enough independent sources for such a list. Dimadick ( talk) 00:27, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
I suspect there are plenty of libraries full of sources writing about this. But as Marco said, documenting and verifying all that takes a lot of time, so it would probably be best to list the content on a relevant WikiProject talk page. I think the most appropriate would be Wikipedia:WikiProject Jewish history. NLeeuw ( talk) 21:31, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:American buskers

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts ( talk) 00:22, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This was previously discussed and agreed at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 31#Category:American buskers before it was suddenly moved back without any discussion. WP:ENGVAR allows us to use the American English term. Buskers is not a word generally used in the United States. JDDJS ( talk to me • see what I've done) 18:14, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy rename in the spirit of WP:G4 but keep a redirect. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:24, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • @ QuietHere: as you listed this at WP:CFDS you might want to react as well. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:43, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    As I noted when I nominated this for a speedy move in January ( see here), the relevant parent category is Category:Buskers by nationality, in which all other entries use that same word. I don't think it makes sense for just one category out of the tree to use different terminology, so I am opposed to this proposal as is. However, I would not oppose renaming the whole tree (and every other relevant category in the greater Category:Buskers tree) based on this given " busking" and " busker" are both redirects to street performance, and I would think it best for all categories to match with that. Plus, I would imagine "street performer" to be a better known, more readily understood, term than "busker". If you wish to extend this proposal to the whole tree, then I will gladly change my vote, but as is I think matching category names is ideal regardless of what terminology is in use. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 19:11, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Migrant to the Ottoman Empire people from British India

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Category:Military history of Lorraine

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts ( talk) 00:20, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, Lorraine is a defunct administrative division, meanwhile part of Grand Est. Marcocapelle ( talk) 10:00, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Weak support It's true that it is no longer an administrative division, but we've got lots of other "Military history of former country/province X" cats. But I suppose it's okay to merge if that makes navigation easier. NLeeuw ( talk) 17:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • @ Nederlandse Leeuw: if you know other "Military history of former province" categories let me know and I will nominate them too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:15, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Hmmmm I suppose there aren't that many, actually. I expected to find them everywhere, but all I could find that semi-qualifies is Category:Military history of Savoy, Category:Military history of Baden etc. But those have arguably been independent countries at some point before becoming provinces of larger countries. If I do find others, I'll let you know or nominate them myself. At any rate, seems like your rationale is in line with common practice. NLeeuw ( talk) 17:42, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:New South Wales rugby union team players

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Category:Battles in Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge. (non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts ( talk) 00:31, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN and recent precedents. NLeeuw ( talk) 06:33, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Battles in Grand Est

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge. (non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts ( talk) 00:28, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN and recent precedents. NLeeuw ( talk) 06:31, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Kyrgyzstani politicians of Korean descent

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts ( talk) 00:19, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. there'd no need to diffuse Kyrgyzstani people of Korean descent by occupation. Mason ( talk) 04:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per given reasoning. Also only one page in the politician cat 104.232.119.107 ( talk) 07:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Jules Dassin

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts ( talk) 00:19, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary eponymous parent category for one subcategory of films. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 04:42, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Analysts of Ayodhya dispute

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Category:Political linguistics

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:30, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge/delete. This category contains one page and a redirect, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 02:56, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Centro de Estudios Puertorriqueños faculty

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Category:NBA 2K players

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Discussion about the categorization of Brent Petway can take place at Talk:Brent Petway. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:07, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one subject in category Let'srun ( talk) 02:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, not a defining characteristic. (If not deleted, merge per nom.) Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:37, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per Marco. Being in the video game is not defining for the sole member. Queen of Hearts ( talk) 00:16, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:19th-century Canadian people (post-Confederation)

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts ( talk) 00:15, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between century and confederation status. There isn't a Canadian people (post-Confederation) category. Mason ( talk) 00:41, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment, the problem is rather in pre-Confederation Canada, when Canada did not yet exist and the term British North America is controversial. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:06, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Canada did not mean all of what you now know as Canada in that era, but it most certainly did exist. A person from the pre-1867 Province of Canada most certainly was a Canadian; a person from the pre-Durham provinces of Upper Canada and Lower Canada most certainly was a Canadian. Bearcat ( talk) 22:11, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Which can be easily fixed by creating the more appropriate categories and moving those people to them, and doesn't require this. Until better categories for where they were really from actually exist, however, categorizing pre-confederation New Brunswickers or Newfoundlanders as "Canadian", while certainly not ideal, remains preferable to leaving them completely out of the entire tree. Bearcat ( talk) 15:41, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. The question of whether a person died before or after 1867 isn't particularly relevant in this context; as I explained above, a person from Upper Canada/Canada West or Lower Canada/Canada East between 1791 and 1867 was still very much a Canadian. Bearcat ( talk) 22:11, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Can you please convey that to the JPL? I've tried again on his talk page, and there's just no reasoning with him. Mason ( talk) 03:48, 20 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Fran Saleški Finžgar

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:07, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Delete for now. This entire category tree only has two pages in it: the author and one novel they work, which isn't helpful for navigation. (Notably it has just as many categories as pages). Mason ( talk) 00:22, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Fran Levstik

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts ( talk) 00:14, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Delete for now. This category only has two pages in it, the author and the list of their works. That's not helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 00:20, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Fujiwara no Shunzei

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts ( talk) 00:14, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has two pages in it. One of which is the author's work and the other is the author. That's not helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 00:17, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Canadian military personnel from Kelowna

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The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 01:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization by location. While a few Canadian cities do have "Military personnel from City" categories (but not "Canadian military personnel from City"), there's no comprehensive scheme in place of doing this across the board for all cities — they otherwise exist only for the major megacities with populations of half a million or more, whose base "People from City" categories were overpopulated into the hundreds or thousands and needed diffusion for size control, and not for every city across the board. But with just 67 articles in Category:Canadian military personnel from British Columbia and just six in Category:People from Kelowna, neither of the parent categories are large enough to need this for diffusability. There's no particularly unique relationship between military service and being from Kelowna per se, so this isn't needed for just three people if other Canadian cities in Kelowna's weight class (Lethbridge, Regina, Saskatoon, Thunder Bay, Sudbury, Gatineau, Sherbrooke, Moncton, etc.) don't have the same. Bearcat ( talk) 14:51, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Disagree Kelowna is the third largest locality in BC. Uncontroversial categories exist for the two largest localities (Vancouver and Victoria). It already has three entries which is often considered the criterion for a category, and is likely to gain more in the future as more biographies are created. ☆ Bri ( talk) 15:11, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Firstly, the standard minimum size for a category is normally five, not three, and even then size alone doesn't automatically trump other considerations. A category that is failing or violating other rules isn't exempted from those other rules just because you can get its size to five per se.
Secondly, "(Canadian) military personnel" categories don't exist for either Vancouver or Victoria at all yet, so I don't know what you even think you're talking about with that argument.
Thirdly, it's not "ordinal size rank within province" that determines whether such a category is warranted in this tree, but "is the base people-from category large enough to need diffusion or not" — which with just six people in it now and only nine even if these get upmerged to it (well, actually eight, because one of these three people is already in a different occupational subcategory as it is), Kelowna's is not. At present, these categories exist only for big cities where an undifferentiated "People from" category without occupational subcategories would be populated past the 500-article or 1,000-article marks, which is not where Kelowna is sitting, and they do not automatically exist as a matter of course for every small or medium city that had one, two or three military people come from there.
My mistake on thinking there was a category for military personnel from Victoria and Vancouver. It is actually Category:Writers from British Columbia that includes those two cities, and now (since I created it) Kelowna. Which is a good reason to think maybe they should all be in a category, rather than ruling out Kelowna because the other two haven't been created yet.
I could add Trevor Cadieu from Vernon, which is on the same lake as Kelowna and with city limits separated by ~10 km, possibly considered a suburb. Also since this nom, I discovered that George Randolph Pearkes served with the BC Dragoons which is a Kelowna reserve unit ( Okanagan Military Museum). I don't want to change the categories of either bio right now in case this is an error and would be perceived as gaming this nom. ☆ Bri ( talk) 17:24, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Found one more notable definitely described as "from Kelowna" by Okanagan Military Museum: Rodney Frederick Leopold Keller. ☆ Bri ( talk) 17:28, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
The smallest other city with a sibling category is both (a) four times Kelowna's size, and (b) about 80 years older than Kelowna, both adding up to the fact it has several hundred more articles in its "People from" tree than Kelowna does, and thus needs to be diffused more than Kelowna's does. Bearcat ( talk) 15:16, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:LGBT-related music

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:45, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: An odd entry in Category:LGBT arts, because of the "-related" adjective not shared by any parent category (but shared by some subcategories that may need to be renamed as well). Sister categories at that level (in LGBT arts) are just LGBT dance, LGBT literature, LGBT arts organizations, LGBT theatre, and LGBT art‎. No "-related" anywhere there. Another option would be to rename everything to the form of 'X about Y", although I am not sure if "about LGBT" sounds best (ex. "Music about LGBT"?). For now, removing "-related" from that tree might be easiest in terms of standardization. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:31, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment, I guess it is called "-related" because it also contains LGBT musicians and LGBT musical groups subcategories with artists who do not all create LGBT content. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: I would note that the category is named the way it is because CFD previously renamed it from the proposed new name to the existing one on the grounds that the music itself doesn't have its own innate sexual orientation, but is merely contextually related to the sexual orientations of people. I would further note things like Category:LGBT-related films, Category:LGBT-related television shows and Category:LGBT-related books, which are also categorized as "LGBT-related", and not just as "LGBT", for the same reason, which means there's a mixture of "LGBT" vs. "LGBT-related" among its siblings rather than this being a one-off outlier. It's a complicated question, for sure, but the reason it's named this way is because of a prior CFD discussion on it, so it's not nearly as clearcut as the nominator makes it out to be. Bearcat ( talk) 15:13, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Weak keep based on the names of the sibling categories that Bearcat mentions. Mason ( talk) 03:40, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Songs against capitalism

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:53, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Generally, our songs by topic categories are 'about' not 'against'. Ex. Category:Songs about poverty. This is also subcat to Category:Songs about consumerism, not Category:Songs against consumerism... Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:27, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Lean to delete, it is quite a stretch to say that these songs are about capitalism. I found several that are just critical of modern society in general, some others about the labour movement. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:51, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Perhaps could be saved after pruning, if anyone can indeed show a song about capitalism. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:49, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Weak keep. I can understand why one ould argue that should be deleted because of the nebulous nature, but it is pretty clear that many of these songs have lyrics that are anti-capitalist. Velociraptor888 ( talk) 23:26, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • No, it is not clear at all. It relies very much on subjective judgement. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:37, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • That is not an improvement versus the current name. This proposed name suggests the songs are about an anti-capitalist movement while the intent of the category is to have songs that name and shame capitalism. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:27, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Nigerian books by year

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Also delete Category:2015 Nigerian books, Category:2017 Nigerian books

Contains two subcategories, each containing only 1 article. Gjs238 ( talk) 22:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Transport infrastructure by decade

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:26, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, very complicated tree for only a few subcategories about bridges, canals and lighthouses. Note that this nomination is not about these bridges, canals or lighthouses subcategories, but only about intermediate container categories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Congenital amputees

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:52, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between specific disability and source of the disability. Mason ( talk) 23:01, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
My understanding of the categorization rules ( /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Categorization) is that categories that are relevant are based on what criteria are considered defining. I believe that congenital amputee status is considered a meaningful category in the emic (i.e., members) of the limb difference community. E.g., https://www.amputee-coalition.org/resources/amputations-in-childhood/ . This reflects the fact that the lived experience of those with congenital vs acquired amputations is often quite different (e.g., variation in phantom limb experience, the need to actively learn how to function without a limb from birth vs learning as an adult, the use of prosthetics vs not [prosthetics are less frequently used by those with congenital limb differences]). I am aware of this through my extensive involvement with the limb difference community. It can also be observed by a read of the discussions of amputees and those with limb differences (e.g., one of many examples here: https://www.reddit.com/r/amputee/comments/zl8rdk/looking_for_insight_into_child_amputee/).
Note also that there is a Wikipedia page for congenital amputees ( /info/en/?search=Congenital_amputation) which per categorization rules is an important signal that a category is defining. Calculatedfire ( talk) 23:31, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Also meant to add- there is a precedence set for amputee categories based on the current categories presented ( /info/en/?search=Category:Amputees). Certainly congenital amputees is just as or probably notably recognized as per current Wikipedia guidelines (e.g., having its own Wikipedia page) than other categories (e.g., there is no page German amputees; "Works about Amputees" is certainly not a defining characteristic of much of the included media. This is not to say that these other categories should be removed, but rather, to show that congenital meets the required threshold of defining. Calculatedfire ( talk) 23:34, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Comment. I think you'll be able to make a more compelling case if you review WP:EGRS/D which gives clearer rules for intersections with disability and other characteristics (gender, race, sexuality etc). Could you show me where having a wikipedia page about a condition means that "per categorization rules is an important signal that a category is defining"? Because I don't think that is sufficient to have a wikipedia page to ensure that it could be a category. Mason ( talk) 03:42, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Lean to oppose, I may be mistaken but at first glance I don't think there is a trivial intersection at stake. Congenital amputation is being born without a limb, which is a "thing" in itself. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:53, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    But is it defining for individuals? I'm open to having my mind changed, but I don't think people tend to have the lead of the article stating that they are a congenital amputee. If anything, the leads will be about amputees who acquired their disability through a headline grabbing fashion. Now, I'm well aware that there is literature on differences between acquired and congenital disabilities, and that has implications for interventions as well as well-being.
    However, I still don't think that " reliable sources [...] regularly describe the person as having th[e] characteristic". Fuller quote from Wikipedia:EGRS/D
    >"People with disabilities, intersex conditions, and other medical or psychological states or conditions, should not be added to subcategories of Category:People with disabilities, Category:Intersex people or Category:People by medical or psychological condition unless that condition is considered WP:DEFINING for that individual. For example, there may be people who have amnesia, but if reliable sources don't regularly describe the person as having that characteristic, they should not be added to the category."
    Mason ( talk) 03:45, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Hi, here I did some more research:
    /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Categorizing_articles_about_people under "Specific Intersections":
    "At all times, the bottom line remains can a valid, encyclopedic main article be written for this grouping?"
    There is a main article on this subject as I noted in my original response.
    Thank you as I am learning to navigate this process. Calculatedfire ( talk) 01:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Oppose as constituted, though open to other alternatives if somebody's got a better idea. The distinction obviously hasn't been upheld all that well in the past, but today there is greater recognition than there used to be that there is a qualitative difference between being born with a congenital limb difference and the later loss due to injury or disease of a limb one previously had. It is, for example, one of the reasons why we moved Category:Amputee sportspeople to Category:Sportspeople with limb difference about a year and a half ago, so that the terminology was more inclusive. Medical literature is stricter on the distinction now than it used to be, referring to congenital limb difference rather than congenital amputation; people with congenital limb differences are more outspoken about the differences; even media try harder now to recognize and respect the distinction (even if they're not always perfect); and on and so forth. So really, we should either allow the category system to uphold the distinction, or pick an alternative term like "people with limb difference", instead of continuing to use "amputees", if consensus really wants to collapse it. Bearcat ( talk) 23:52, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Buildings Downtown Portland, Oregon

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Category:G13 eligible AfC submissions

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May 11

Category:MSI nettops

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:MSI computers and Category:Mini PC. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:29, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one article in category. Upmerge to relevant categories. Gonnym ( talk) 20:53, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Rihard Jakopič

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Delete for now: This eponymous category only has the artist and a pavilion that is named after them. Such a category, with two pages is unhelpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 20:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep for now: categories like redirects are WP:CHEAP. Maybe the category will be populated in the future. Do you see no prospect for expansion of this right now unhelpful category? Awesome Aasim 21:21, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep Jakopič is well known artist in Slovenia and in future the category will likely contain Slovenian streets named after him. Category is useful to me. A09| (talk) 12:20, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Articles about streets named after an artist do not belong in a category anyway, as these articles do not provide any information about the artist. The streets may be listed in the article about the artist though. Marcocapelle ( talk) 14:01, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:OCEPON, and the two articles are already directly interlinked. Marcocapelle ( talk) 03:16, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I don't object to deletion of this category. It only contains two articles besides the eponymous one. If there are more articles created on the artist about some of his paintings (which are notable but I don't expect it will happen right away), the category may be recreated. Thanks for the notification. -- TadejM my talk 22:10, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:OCEPON. I see zero policy/guideline-based reasoning to keep this category; just an WP:ITSUSEFUL and a "it might grow" (which was deprecated as a reason to keep a category in October). House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:54, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Coaches Kerala Cricket Team 2023

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:31, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: One-entry category for a non-defining characteristic. We do not exhaustively subcategorize cricket coaches for the individual year they worked, particularly given that sports teams normally only have one coach at any given time, and thus each category would have only one entry (or perhaps two if a coach got fired and replaced partway through the season, but never, ever enough to actually surpass minimum size requirements for categories). And even if this category were justified, this wouldn't be its correct name anyway. Bearcat ( talk) 19:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Cartoonists by country templates

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Category:United States National Recording Registry albums

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The same rationale as last time: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 April 28#Category:United States National Recording Registry albums. I still see no reason for this category to be active and it is still redudant to Category:United States National Recording Registry recordings. Even if all the album articles were listed under the United States National Recording Registry albums category, that would just leave songs and other miscellaneous records under the United States National Recording Registry recordings category. It is really a crime to have all the inducted recordings under one category? QuasyBoy (talk) 18:18, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Good point Espngeek ( talk) 18:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Weak keep, otherwise upmerge per Marcocapelle. Like all participants in these two CfDs, I'm not clear what the issue is. Not all recordings are albums, so there isn't an obvious redundancy here. But like the sole participant in the previous CfD, I'm not sure if these really make sense as categories rather than a list. -- Visviva ( talk) 02:13, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Former universities and colleges of Jesuits

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Category:People of South Asian descent

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:07, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The boundaries of South Asia are not well-defined. Beyond the central regions of the Indian Empire, there is significant inconsistency in which additional countries are considered part of South Asia. Clear demarcations—whether geographical, geopolitical, socio-cultural, economic, or historical—between South Asia and other Asian regions are lacking. Aldij ( talk) 16:05, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Strong oppose: Asia is a huge continent. I see this as creating more confusion when making categories than having them separate. The geographical boundaries can be debated but it does not change that some reliable sources including sources close to the author refer to the subject as of "South Asian" descent. Awesome Aasim 21:23, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment, in the history tree for before 1947, the term "India" is mostly used to encompass the current territory of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. "South Asia" might be a better alternative than "India". Marcocapelle ( talk) 03:32, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose. Regardless of the variability in definition of "South Asia" in the real world, Wikipedia has solved the problem for its own purposes. We have numerous articles and categories relating to "South Asia". The 8 countries we include are listed at South Asia. It is untrue that we lack a clear demarcation. To help with the issue of users not being aware of which countries are covered, we could copy and paste the list of 8 countries into the top of each category listed above. If there is a valid rationale for merging, it's not the one presented above. Nurg ( talk) 09:07, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Wikipedia intends to follow the real world, not to set its own standards. Of these 8 countries, Afghanistan is very questionable as it is often counted as part of Central Asia, but the other 7 are ok. Marcocapelle ( talk) 14:23, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • I don't have an opinion on whether Afghanistan should remain in South Asia or be moved to Central Asia. "Wikipedia has solved the problem for its own purposes" for now. It can change to a different definition of 'South Asia', but that's a separate debate and I probably wouldn't be interested enough in it to participate. But the nominator's rationale that the boundaries of South Asia are not well-defined is not true for our purposes. We have a very clear definition, albeit it is not immutable. Nurg ( talk) 01:48, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose unless this is a proposal to upmerge all intermediate regional categories into Fooian people of Asian descent categories, for consistency. -- Paul_012 ( talk) 09:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    I would oppose such a proposal as well because geography. South Asians are culturally and linguistically different from East Asians and Middle Eastern Asians. Distance does a lot to culture. Awesome Aasim 20:52, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Carib people

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Category:20th-century Algerian photographers

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:20th-century photographers. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:03, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. This category is only has one person in it and doesn't help navigation. Mason ( talk) 04:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Students in Mauritius

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:33, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one page in this category, which is unhelpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 01:54, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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May 10

Category:Random Pages Tests

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:09, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary Capitalization; Consistency With Wikipedia:Random pages test Queen of Hearts ( talk) 23:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Drakengard

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Category:Rhino Records albums

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The result of the discussion was: merge/rename as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:12, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Rhino Records was renamed to Rhino Entertainment. Same company shouldn't have separate categories. Add all three renames to Category:Rhino Entertainment. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 20:16, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Gruppo API

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category contains 1 eponymous article and 1 redirect, which is targeted to the same eponymous article. Gjs238 ( talk) 20:11, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Non-denominational

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:OC/U#not-based * Pppery * it has begun... 18:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It is not about the name, it is about the fact that Non-denominational is not a denomination. There are over 2000 other Wikipedians in Category:Christian Wikipedians who did not specify a denomination. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    • Only in the way that agnosticism is not a religion, non-binary is not a gender, and rejection of a sexual orientation label is not a sexual orientation. There is a difference between not specifying something and rejecting or not identifying with it (also non-denominational is not specific to Christianity). However, as the only editor in this category has been blocked, I no longer oppose deletion. Peter James ( talk) 12:03, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:People educated at Alcester Grammar School

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Category:People educated at De La Salle College Dundalk

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Category:People educated at Coláiste an Phiarsaigh

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Category:Nance Family

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only three entries and no others to add. Not necessary to have a family category when this is the most there will ever be in it. SportsGuy789 ( talk) 04:41, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, the articles are already directly interlinked in the body text of the articles. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:56, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk) 01:36, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:14th-century French Sephardi Jews

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:11, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: 3x upmerge for now. It's not helpful for navigation to diffuse 14th/13th century sephardi jews by nationality when theres only one or two people in the category Mason ( talk) 01:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Just delete, one article is about a Jew who wasn't of Spanish origin, the other about an ex-Jew who wasn't French. Generally the concept of French Sephardi Jews does not make much sense before 1492 ( Alhambra Decree). Marcocapelle ( talk) 03:52, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per Marcocapelle. -- Aldij ( talk) 17:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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May 9

Category:Rebel princes

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Category:Beauty pageant contestants from Lagos

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:57, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-notable intersection User:Namiba 19:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:American Splendor artists

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Category:Third-person view

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The result of the discussion was: delete for now, with no prejudice against recreating the category if more content is found (either under this name or a similar one). (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I've created this one few minutes ago, but maybe the name should be analogous to Category:First-person video games? Consider the existence of Category:First-person shooters and Category:Third-person shooters, with only the first having a parent category outside shooter games (until my creation). Both have main articles. However, third-person view has a redirect to an article section, while first-person view goes to a disambig, sigh. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • @ Piotrus: what other content are you planning to add to this category? That will provide the answer to the question. If topic articles are going to be added then "view" seems the right name. If only video games are going to be added then "video games" is the obvious right name. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:29, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • If there isn't anything going to be added on a short term then the category might as well be deleted, because of lack of content. It can be recreated when it is more clear what sort of content there is. Marcocapelle ( talk) 02:19, 2 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete for now without prejudice per Marcocapelle. I can't think of anything else to add either. There are lots of other games that are third person, but that is either WP:NONDEFINING because virtually no other game of that genre (say, RPG, survival, puzzles etc.), uses first-person view, uses bird's eye view or isometric view (e.g. RTS games), or you can switch between first and third person (sometimes even second person). "Third-person shooter" is the only commonly used term in video gaming that I know of. NLeeuw ( talk) 23:01, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Armenian screenwriters by century

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Category:Nigerian gay writers

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge to Category:Nigerian LGBT writers as well as Category:Nigerian gay men and Category:Nigerian lesbians, respectively. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:49, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only 1 or 2 articles, too small to aid navigation. All are already in the appropriate sub-categories. User:Namiba 15:53, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Populated places on the Underground Railroad

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Caribbean people by descent‎

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:16, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename for consistency with their subcategories which are all "by descent", as well as for consistency with Category:North American people by descent at the top of the tree. Marcocapelle ( talk) 14:09, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Extinct Indigenous peoples of Australia

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Category:Religious buildings and structures destroyed in the Muslim period in the Indian subcontinent

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Category:Conspiracist media

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Category:Disinformation operations

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The result of the discussion was: purge (and reevaluate after purging). (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:50, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This category contains medias that are mainstream, and most of these are from certain countries. Coddlebean ( talk) 06:08, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I don't feel qualified to be a great judge in the matter, but it does seem to be a bit of an WP:ARBITRARYCAT. Disinformation operations definitely exist, but what does that mean exactly for categorisation purposes? Sure, Category:Government spokespersons of Russia spread a lot of disinformation, no doubt about that; but does that make them "operations"? I don't think that makes grammatical sense. Perhaps this category just needs to be Purged? NLeeuw ( talk) 06:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Purge, to begin with. There are nuanced differences between disinformation, misinformation, propaganda and fake news and this category contains all of that. As we have Category:Misinformation, Category:Fake news and Category:Propaganda as well, it would make sense to remove all articles and subcategories from Category:Disinformation operations if they are already in one of the three other trees. After that is done we may re-evaluate what to do with this category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:11, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support purge Seems like a good approach to begin with. NLeeuw ( talk) 23:05, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support purge and, as for the justification for this delete, these are not mainstream media; they are something else. Whether or not they are mostly from certain countries is beside the point; they are from wherever they are from. And whether or not they are even media is beside the point, since this category is about 'operations'. The same justification has been used into several deletion requests here. Hmains ( talk) 19:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Hindu temples destroyed by Muslims

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Category:Continental League contributors

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Category:Continental League

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Category:Singles by decade by record label

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Category:Philosophers of theodicy

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:22, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. I don't think we need to diffuse this category by the specific question in the philosophy of religion, especially since this cateogory only has one person it it. Mason ( talk) 02:44, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom, this doesn't seem to be a particularly useful subdivision of Category:Philosophers of religion. Psychastes ( talk) 02:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Philosophers by ethnicity

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: per WP:OCEGRS, there doesn't seem to be a reason why philosophers should be categorized by ethnicity Psychastes ( talk) 02:37, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Comment. If not deleted, I think that Jewish philosophers‎ should be added to Category:Philosophers by ethnicity. Mason ( talk) 13:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Early Germanic music

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:49, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now, there's not enough content to support a category right now. There's only one page in here (and Early Germanic music redirects to Early Germanic culture Mason ( talk) 22:56, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Native Americans' rights activists

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:48, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Rename to make the distinction between being an activist who is of native american ancestry and someone who is in support of the rights of people who are of native american ancestry. This category is a siblings to Category:Activists for African-American civil rights‎ and Category:Activists for Hispanic and Latino American civil rights, which were renamed following this: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_November_4#Category:African-Americans'_civil_rights_activists Mason ( talk) 22:38, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
support per nom jengod ( talk) 22:40, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. NLeeuw ( talk) 06:16, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 08:31, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. PersusjCP ( talk) 15:31, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Support - seems reasonable. -- ARose Wolf 12:09, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Support - per nom. Makes sense. Netherzone ( talk) 00:26, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support in principle, but why not "civil rights" like the other categories? Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    I would think it's because not only does "Native American rights" encompass civil rights, but also treaty rights. PersusjCP ( talk) 15:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Also there are quite a few Native American environmental justice rights activists, too. Netherzone ( talk) 00:23, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Albanian rights activists

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Category:Lists of airports in Massachusetts

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Lists of airports in the United States. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:46, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant category. Let'srun ( talk) 19:42, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
"Places" doesn't make sense. Up-merge to Airports in the United States and delete category all together. CaribDigita ( talk) 21:06, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Upmerge to Category:Lists of airports in the United States for now without prejudice per CaribDigita. NLeeuw ( talk) 06:18, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Heliports in Massachusetts

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Category:Punjabi diaspora in Asia

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:46, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, not enough content for diffusion by continent. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:32, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge for now per nom. Normally a "by country" category is a containercat, but in this case it's not marked as such, and it would create an impractical situation if it were (as indicated by nom), so it's fine. NLeeuw ( talk) 06:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Book of Joel people

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:52, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge delete, single-article categories, this is not helpful for navigation. Not every Hebrew Bible book must have its own people category per se. There is no need to merge to Category:Hebrew Bible people, the articles are already in Category:Prophets in the Hebrew Bible. Marcocapelle ( talk) 14:18, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Marcocapelle: do you mean "merge"? House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:45, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Tuvan independence activists

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Tuvan people and Category:Independence activists. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:50, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Broaden this category so it can include other kinds of activists. Mason ( talk) 04:22, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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People from Overseas France by ethnic or national origin

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:45, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename for consistency with their subcategories which are all "by descent", as well as for consistency with Category:French people by descent at the top of the tree. Marcocapelle ( talk) 03:23, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 04:22, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:16, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Suicide books

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Books about suicide. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:44, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge: These categories seem to be extremely overlapping Mason ( talk) 02:16, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Marcocapelle: @ NLeeuw: @ Mason: I want to take a moment to clarify the nature of the category we're discussing. It appears there might have been a misunderstanding, and I'd like to ensure we're on the same page. The category in question pertains to books on the topic of DIY suicide. These books delve into sensitive and potentially dangerous instructions related to suicide. As such, they carry a significant degree of risk and responsibility. It's important to recognize that their content can have serious implications for individuals who may be vulnerable or in distress. Given the sensitive nature of this subject matter, it's understandable that there may be concerns regarding the availability and promotion of such materials. Our intention is not to offend or upset, but rather to approach this topic with caution and consideration for the well-being of all individuals involved. I apologize if there was any confusion regarding the purpose or scope of this category. Geysirhead ( talk) 06:06, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Noted. NLeeuw ( talk) 06:23, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Single merge to Category:Books about suicide; Category:Suicide methods does not seem to be an appropriate merge target. Perhaps keep a redirect. Marcocapelle ( talk) 03:02, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Single merge per Marcocapelle. A book about suicide can be about a lot more than just the methods. Think about motives, underlying causes, social impact, prevention, statistics, cultural depictions and references, etc. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:16, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Great points! Mason ( talk) 22:34, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Georgetown College (Kentucky)

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May 7

Category:Comic book editors

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Category:Ethnic groups in the Arab world

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The result of the discussion was: split. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT, largely duplicative of Category:Ethnic groups in the Middle East (which actually has a proper, identically named main article: Ethnic groups in the Middle East) and Category:Ethnic groups in North Africa, with an unnecessary focus on "Arab" in the title instead of recognising the ethnic diversity of the region. NLeeuw ( talk) 22:06, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support, ethnic groups in the Middle East and in North Africa are unrelated to each other (except for Arabs of course). Marcocapelle ( talk) 00:27, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support, per nom. -- Aldij ( talk) 16:20, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Pornography in Australia

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The result of the discussion was: merge/rename as in the updated nomination. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:26, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT. Exactly the same scope. Category:Pornography in Australia was created today; Category:Australian pornography in 2011, so the latter should be the merge target to preserve the edit history. However, for consistency per WP:C2C and per main article Pornography in Austria per WP:C2D, Pornography in Australia should be the catname once the merger has been completed. That will leave Category:Pornography in Oceania a redundant layer with 1 C 0 P, so it should be upmerged to its parents for now without prejudice per WP:MFN. NLeeuw ( talk) 21:00, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:IMAX venues in the United Kingdom

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:07, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects. Let'srun ( talk) 20:37, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Communism in the Arab world

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:39, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT WP:OVERLAPCAT. All children are already in parents Category:Communism in Asia and Category:Communism in Asia (part of the Category:Political movements by continent tree), as well as Category:Communism by country). On the other hand, Category:Arab communists is in the Category:People by ethnicity and political orientation tree, which has been inappropriately intersected with the trees above. NLeeuw ( talk) 06:02, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
PS: Added Conservatism and Monarchism which are very similar situations. Other siblings could be nominated as well, but I suggest we do them as follow-ups in order to not make this nomination overly complicated. NLeeuw ( talk) 06:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Oppose this ongoing process of dismantling Category:Arab world one layer at a time. The above participants have argued for retention of this hierarchy, so this group appear to be safe for now. If any further nominations are made, rather than deletion of Arab world categories, the nom should suggest replacing them by building out "in the Middle East" and "in North Africa" hierarchies, which have been the targets of some other former Arab world categories – like the Ethnic groups nomination above. Category:Politics of North Africa is currently rather thin. – Fayenatic London 10:22, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Fair points. I guess this nomination was malformed from the start. I'll withdraw and start over with a better proposal at some later stage. NLeeuw ( talk) 10:28, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    PS: I'm not necessarily advocating for the entire dismantling of the Category:Arab world tree per se. I'm looking at all the branches to see if they make sense or not, and what alternatives there may be. Some categories appear more justifiable than others. NLeeuw ( talk) 10:32, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Punjabi people by occupation

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The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 14:42, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:OCEGRS, trivial intersection between occupation and ethnicity. There is mostly no need to merge, the articles are already in a parallel Indian or Pakistani category if applicable. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:29, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Seems like a notable intersection [5] [6]-- User:Namiba 14:10, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It is mainly about Indian descent, as the second link also illustrates. Hardly any of these articles is about someone of Pakistani descent, while a clear majority of Punjabi are Pakistanis. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:40, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Quebec Kebs

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:38, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Defunct minor league team containing no articles except the team article, the arena it temporarily inhabited, and the coaches category. User:Namiba 14:43, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Defunct National Basketball League of Canada teams

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:38, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The NBLC itself is defunct. User:Namiba 14:44, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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IIHF Ice Hockey Women's World Championships

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Category:Rātana politicians

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. No prejudice against a new, specific nomination. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:15, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. No need to merge, the subcategory is already in the tree of the three potential targets. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:24, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Are we certain there are no Rātana people who stood but were not elected? I would prefer to keep ‘politicians’, but delete ‘MPs’. If that is not preferred, then yes, I would still delete ‘politicians’. —  HTGS ( talk) 00:15, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: there seems to be a lot of confusion in this category (and in articles relating to Rātana as a political force). Some of these people are adherents of the Rātana faith who became MPs, others of them were MPs for the Rātana Party or (after affiliation with the Labour Party) MPs officially endorsed by the Rātana church. Soraya Peke-Mason, for example, is a Rātana, but not an official Rātana-endorsed MP. If that can be cleared up I'd support Marcocapelle's second suggestion (merging MPs into politicians). Grutness... wha? 14:22, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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@ Marcocapelle, Grutness, and HTGS: what are your current thoughts? Which categories should (or should not) be merged to which categories? (I will note that Category:New Zealand Rātanas is now at Category:Rātana people.) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:55, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
It's a baffling one. Perhaps Category:Rātana-endorsed MPs would make sense, but I'm not entirely convinced. Grutness... wha? 13:08, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • If they are actual Rātanas, then yes. If not, then just merge them back into the politician level, I suppose. Grutness... wha? 05:05, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Belgian Ministers of Defence

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The result of the discussion was: rename as nominated, except for downcasing the MOS:JOBTITLES. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:25, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename, "of country" seems to be the standard format. I am not sure about the capitalization. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:13, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Thanks for the nom. Looking at the Category:Defense ministers by country category tree, the vast majority use a "Defence ministers of X" format, my original proposal was to rename any that don't to match the category tree per C2C. A similar situation is seen in the other ministers category trees. AusLondonder ( talk) 20:06, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Paintings of the Sacrifice of Isaac

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:18, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, only very few articles in Category:Paintings of Isaac and it is not part of any other tree because Category:Sacrifice of Isaac or Category:Binding of Isaac does not exist. Marcocapelle ( talk) 14:24, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Canadian people of Tajik descent

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Category:British people of Tajik descent

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Category:Caucasus Jews

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People from British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies by ethnic or national origin

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:26, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale:rename for consistency with the subcategories which are aĺl "by descent", as well as for consistency with Category:British people by descent at the top of the tree. This is follow-up after this earlier discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 10:08, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:People of West Asian descent

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Category:Chinese retired emperors

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:37, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: More clear, consistent with related categories. Remsense 诉 06:45, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Rename per nom. Preferably nominate the Japanese and Vietnamese sibling categories too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:54, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Union Theological Seminary (New York City)

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:38, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: In line with the main article about the subject, which was recently the subject of a requested move discussion that determined that the New York seminary is the primary topic for the title. Graham ( talk) 04:01, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom – the previous discussion has established that Union Theological Seminary is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, so this should be followed in the category name. Robminchin ( talk) 20:32, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Could you clarify what you mean? As discussed in the RM discussion, of the five other articles listed on that disambiguation page:
  • Three of them use a name prefixed with a city and we were unable to find any references to any of them as simply "Union Theological Seminary". (As partial title matches, they're probably borderline cases as to whether they should even be listed in the body of the disambiguation page rather than the see also section.)
  • One of them ( Union Presbyterian Seminary) was historically known as "Union Theological Seminary" but changed their name a number of years ago in part to distinguish themselves from the much better-known New York seminary. (By way of comparison, the fact that the University of Portland was historically known as "Columbia University" rightly doesn't stop the title Category:Columbia University from being used for the New York institution.)
  • One of them ( Union Theological Seminary (Philippines)) is so obscure that, despite apparently being an English-language institution, there was minimal information available online about them. IACOBVS suggested that they may have actually been named after the New York seminary.
This would seem to be a clear-cut case of a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, especially when we take into account the fact that the New York seminary is recognized internationally as a major intellectual centre of mainline Protestantism and liberal theology and its article is viewed 10 times more often than Union Presbyterian Seminary and 26 times more often than Union Theological Seminary (Philippines).
Additionally, why would we use a different title for the article versus the category? Graham ( talk) 19:03, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Graham: we frequently do that with categories that have ambiguous names. A higher level of primacy is required for categories, otherwise it is highly likely that articles will be placed incorrectly in a category based on its name alone, without checking the scope specified on the category page. – Fayenatic London 21:20, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Sure, but in this case, it is nigh inconceivable that a user would place an article incorrectly in this category. Three of the other institutions have never shared a name with the New York seminary, so there is no ambiguity. One of them hasn't shared a name with the New York seminary for years. And – given that the Philippine seminary appears to be so insignificant that I would be shocked to learn that there is even a single academic there that meets our notability standards – there is no risk that anyone would assume it to have its own category or that an article that belongs in such a theoretical category would even exist. Graham ( talk) 16:52, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Notified: User talk:Station1, User talk:IACOBVS, User talk:Walrasiad, User talk:Robertsky. Reason: Participated in the RM discussion. Graham ( talk) 19:03, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Notified: Talk:Union Theological Seminary, WT:WikiProject Christianity/Noticeboard, WT:WikiProject Columbia University, WT:WikiProject Higher education, WT:WikiProject New York (state), WT:WikiProject New York City, WT:WikiProject Reformed Christianity. Graham ( talk) 19:21, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support. Seems most logical and within policy. Ergo Sum 20:19, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support based on the fact that the proposed names are currently redlinks and there is little likelihood of them becoming ambiguous among categories in the foreseeable future. Station1 ( talk) 03:03, 8 May 2024 (UTC) <responding to ping> reply
  • Support per nom and for the above rationales stated. Disambiguation is not needed for these 3 articles per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. IACOBVS ( talk) 04:43, 8 May 2024 (UTC) <responding to ping> reply
  • Comment: If not changed per proposed, then recommend changing to Category:Union Theological Seminary (New York) to shorten. Semper Fi! FieldMarine ( talk) 12:38, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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May 6

Category:Sámi educators

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:56, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:52, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose. It mirrors the same well-formed categories for non-Sámi educators. I have added one more category to this and at least two more categories could easily be created to add to this one based on the structure of the category for non-Sámi educators. - Yupik ( talk) 15:27, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Slight lean oppose. I have mixed feelings because it's a pretty common parent category, making it helpful for navigation. (Moreover, I think that Sami educator is more defining than Sami schoolteacher). Regardless, Yupik's reason for keeping isn't a good reason to keep or create categories. Please review WP:EGRS before making more categories. Mason ( talk) 16:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Ossetian male writers

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Category:Deaths from food poisoning

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Category:Animated characters debuting in 1972

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Neither of the articles listed here are for fictional characters, but their television shows. I could not find any other entries for this category. If this category is kept, it should be at Category:Animated characters introduced in 1972 anyway. (Oinkers42) ( talk) 21:12, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Actors by ethnicity

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename per actual content of these categories. The diffusing attribute is not these actors' ancestors but it is rather their own ethnicity. Also, this aligns with parent Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:12, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC and friends

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French violinists by gender and century

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:NARROWCAT and WP:OCEGRS, narrow intersections with gender, for none of these categories there will be a topic article in its own right. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:29, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Goldey College football

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:57, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects Let'srun ( talk) 18:10, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Male fiddlers

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:57, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. There is no need to merge somewhere, the subcategory is already in appropriate categories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:24, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom without prejudice. NLeeuw ( talk) 21:22, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:2024 United States Libertarian presidential primaries

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:57, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one page, doesn’t fit with similar category styles Yoblyblob ( Talk) :) 16:34, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:20th-century Canadian people by ethnic or national origin

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:20, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category level with only two subcategories each. Marcocapelle ( talk) 14:55, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom without prejudice. NLeeuw ( talk) 21:22, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Architects

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Category:Whai players

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:52, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Whai (basketball) is now Tauranga Whai. I created the category when the team name did not have "Tauranga" in it. The team name is now officially "Tauranga Whai". DaHuzyBru ( talk) 10:51, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom, for consistency with main article's name ( Tauranga Whai). Paora ( talk) 09:42, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Dual men's international footballers

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Dual internationalists (men's football). (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:52, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: They are men's footballers who are dual internationals, the current order does not make grammatical sense. An alternative would be Dual internationalists (men's football), mirroring how the female players cat has been named‎ Crowsus ( talk) 09:06, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support alternative, similarity would be good, and I feel that the alternative fits it better. Yoblyblob ( Talk) :) 16:35, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. Giant Snowman 15:42, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support alternative to match the women's naming. Giant Snowman 15:44, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Anarchism task force participants

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:52, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: It has been years since the anarchism taskforce of WikiProject Philosophy was expanded into its own dedicated WikiProject, but this category has yet to be updated to reflect that. This proposed move is a simple update to reflect the category's current use by WikiProject Anarchism. Grnrchst ( talk) 08:28, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:18th-century German male violinists

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:18th-century German violinists and reparent. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:00, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I think we should broaden this category to include violinists of all genders. Non of the othe 18th-century violinists are diffused by gender and there isn't a 18th-century german violinists category. Mason ( talk) 03:49, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Rename and re-parent per nom, despite the fact that the French 18th-century violinists are also diffused by gender. It is rather the French males that should be upmerged. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:57, 6 May 2024 (UTC) Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:01, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Rename and re-parent per nom without prejudice. NLeeuw ( talk) 21:23, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Poisoned Romans

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Poisoned ancient Romans. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Duel upmerge as Non-defining intersection between nationality and method of death. Category:Victims of intentional poisonings isn't diffused by nationality. If not merged, it should be renamed Poisoned ancient Romans. Mason ( talk) 16:10, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose "Category:Victims of intentional poisonings isn't diffused by nationality." Why the heck not? Murder victim categories are typically subdivided by nationality. Dimadick ( talk) 16:46, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Well, are you going to diffuse it by nationality? I did't consider the category populated enough to need diffusion. Mason ( talk) 17:02, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I am not seeing any opposition to the rename (noting it was suggested in the OP and seconded by Marcocapelle). Further comments – both about the rename and the merge – would be appreciated, but if there are none I would close this as rename with no consensus on whether this should exist or not.
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Rename is fine by me Mason ( talk) 01:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:American family lawyers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between occupation, type of law, and nationality. Lawyers are not typically defined by whether they practice family law. Similar to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_22#Category:Canadian_criminal_lawyers Mason ( talk) 01:16, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Tokyo Musashino United FC

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May 5

Category:Film templates parameter issues

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The result of the discussion was: split as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:21, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is a valid Wikiproject category that exists principally as a container for other Wikiproject tracking categories, but it's straying a bit from its stated purpose: not every category that's been filed here is tracking issues in the "something wrong here that needs to be fixed" sense, and instead some of them are just tracking usages without regard to any "issues". So genuine "issues" categories can be left here, but "usage" categories should be upmerged to the parent instead of being here. Bearcat ( talk) 22:48, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
The category trees of Template parameter issues by task and Template parameter issues by topic (which includes the nominated category Category:Film templates parameter issues) created by me in 2022 are named this way because of the original category Wikipedia template parameter issues. I too, at some point in this process, realized that some relevant categories are just for tracking/awareness, not for fixing issues. I wouldn't mind renaming the whole category tree into Wikipedia template tracking categories, Template tracking categories by task, and so on.
An alternative would be to make it an additional structure on top: Wikipedia template tracking categories could be the parent of Wikipedia template parameter issues, Template tracking categories by topic – parent of Template parameter issues by topic, and so forth. What do you think?
This is a much larger scope than the original nomination, let me know if you want to limit the discussion here to just the film-related categories. —⁠ andrybak ( talk) 23:31, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
See also Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 200#PetScan or DB query for categories exclusively in Category:Hidden categories and Category:Tracking categories. —⁠ andrybak ( talk) 23:35, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Sorry, I forgot to ping Bearcat. —⁠ andrybak ( talk) 09:29, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
This category isn't being force-transcluded onto its contents via a template, but is just being generically declared as a conventional category declaration, so I'm not sure I see why this is a larger issue. We can just move things out of the category and up to the parent if they're not tracking issues, while leaving things that are tracking issues here, so I really don't grasp why we would need to complicate things by widening the net. Bearcat ( talk) 13:58, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
OK. I support splitting and withdraw my proposal for expanding this nomination. I will wait until this nomination closes and try to implement Category:Template tracking categories by topic after that. —⁠ andrybak ( talk) 14:31, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:American buskers

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Category:Climbing books

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Climbing and mountaineering books. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:30, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: We should merge 'Climbing books' with 'Mountaineering books' to create 'Climbing and Mountaineering books' (as we have done with some other climbing and mountaineering categories like 'List of climbers and mountaineers'). It is not always appropriate to merge 'climbing' and 'mountaineering' but in this case it is not useful to split them as too many of the books include both topics. Aszx5000 ( talk) 16:29, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
I have tagged Category:Mountaineering books too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:48, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Great, thanks. Aszx5000 ( talk) 19:28, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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This was closed (with the right result imho), but the existing old categories of Category:Climbing books and Category:Mountaineering books remain (with their CfD tags). Do we 'rediredct' them to the new Category:Climbing and mountaineering books or are the deleted? thanks, Aszx5000 ( talk) 16:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Aszx5000, they are listed on WT:CFDW and will be handled by admins there. —  Qwerfjkl talk 17:37, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Great - thanks for the quick reply. Aszx5000 ( talk) 17:46, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
The bot merged Category:Mountaineering books into the newly created Category:Climbing and mountaineering books, but it didn't also carry out the second part which is the merger of Category:Climbing books into Category:Climbing and mountaineering book? Can this be fixed. Thanks. Aszx5000 ( talk) 11:15, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes, that will be processed shortly. In such cases, the bot needs to process the work in stages – if a merge and a rename to the same target are listed at the same time, it is coded to ignore both instructions. – Fayenatic London 14:24, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Great - thanks for that. Aszx5000 ( talk) 14:38, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Category:Fictional animals by taxon

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 13#Category:Fictional animals by taxon

Category:Cornish people by descent

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:27, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:42, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Brazilian cuisine by region

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:27, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Tweaking category names to be more representative of their intended usage. As they stand currently, I believe that the categories could be misunderstood as not aligning with Brazil's official regions. I hope to remedy that with this change. BaduFerreira ( talk) 20:49, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Sikh military

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Renaming (A) may be a good idea because of parents Category:Sikh Empire and Category:Military by former country, and siblings in Category:Military by former country. However, as @ Marcocapelle pointed out at Speedy, this requires more discussion because there is lots of content in the category that pre-dates the Sikh Empire. Moreover, Dharamyudh (Sikhism) (an article I wrote some years ago) is a religious concept, and does not belong solely to the Sikh Empire as a state. Alternately, we could also decide that this is just an WP:ARBITRARYCAT that should be deleted (B). Also, I think that the two recently created children Category:Military units and formations of the Sikhs and Category:Wars involving the Sikhs may be WP:ARBITRARYCATs, which will also have to be renamed (A) or deleted (B). Category:Sikh warriors may be a valid category (if it passes WP:EGRS), but not all those within the military of the Sikh Empire were necessarily adherents of Sikhism, so unless renamed & rescoped, that subcategory should be removed from this tree. Please indicate your preference, as both seem workable solutions to the current issues. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose. This is a difficult one, because the Sikhs dominated (parts of) Punjab, but did not have a consistent political structure in that region during the two centuries that this category tree is about. They did have military though, to defend their territories. The period covers the Early Mughal–Sikh wars until the Afghan–Sikh wars and it is only during the latter wars that there was first a Sikh Confederacy and later a Sikh Empire. Deletion or purging would certainly be counter-productive because it would arbitrarily break the military history of the region. At most diffuse by different periods. An alternative in a completely different direction is renaming to Category:Sikh military (1621–1849). Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:14, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    I really don't think we should be categorising military history by religious denomination. That's kinda like creating Category:Anabaptist military and then throwing Münster rebellion and Anabaptist riot in there, as if those were carried out by the Armed Forces of the same "state". They weren't.
    We could split up by state, e.g. Category:Wars involving the Sikh Confederacy and Category:Wars involving the Sikh Empire. I would definitely support that. I could add that as Option C to the nom. NLeeuw ( talk) 20:01, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    • The comparison with Anabaptists is unfair because the two articles you mentioned are situated at two different places and the Anabaptists held power in only one of them. Hypothetically, if they would have maintained longer in Münster, and if there they would have been called "the Anabaptists" by historians as belligerant in wars, then by all means Category:Anabaptist military would have been a valid category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:17, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
      I think it is fair, because as you mentioned, the Sikh Empire is a different state than the Sikh Confederacy, and formations such as the Akal Sena are even older, but did not yet have their own state; they were in rebellion against the Mughal Empire. (I suppose that's what you are referring to by your suggestion to start counting form 1621?).
      At any rate, we should avoid categorising military personnel by religion per WP:EGRS. A military or armed group is either always connected to a state, or usually intends to form its own state or quasi-state, and sometimes already operates a proto-state or quasi-state (even gangs and mafia can have territories of influence where they extract 'protection money', i.e. tribute). (It is for this reason that we have maintained Military personnel of Fooland rather than Military personnel from Fooland conventions; their service to Fooland defines them, not their birth or residence in Fooland).
      The Akal Sena was such a group, whose military aspects were defined by their loyalty to Guru Hargobind, and their pursuit to establish an independent Sikh state (the First Sikh State arose in 1709). The personal religious beliefs of the individual soldiers in the Akal Sena are WP:NONDEFINING for the group as a military force in service of a guru and a proto-state in the Punjab region. NLeeuw ( talk) 10:42, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
      • It may have started as a rebellion, but so did the Dutch Republic which is in retrospect said to have started in the 1570s while it was only recognized by Spain in 1648. There is usually a grey area between rebellion and independence. For the Sikhs independence presumably started in 1606 with the Akal Takht and the first battle against the Mughal Empire taking place in 1621, the Battle of Rohilla. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:13, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • See also this follow up discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Sikh warriors

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:15, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename and purge, in 1849 the Sikhs ceased to have power in Punjab, the Sikh Empire was merged into British India. The category also contains military personnel of India who happen to be Sikhs, e.g. Jagjit Singh Aurora, they should be purged as a matter of trivial intersection. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:47, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Question What do you think this category is supposed to contain right now? And what do you think the category should contain?
Because what I am seeing is an inappropriate intersection of the Category:People by nationality tree and the Category:People by religion tree
Category:People by nationality > Category:People by occupation and nationality > Category:Military personnel by nationality > Category:Warriors by nationality > Category:Indian warriors > Category:Sikh warriors
Category:People by religion > Category:People by religion and nationality > Category:Sikhs by nationality > Category:Indian Sikhs > Category:Sikh warriors
Even the Category:People by ethnicity tree is mixed up in it because of parent Category:Punjabi people, but that could easily be Purged.
The word "Sikh" thus acquires a double meaning, namely adherents of Sikhism and subjects of the Sikh Empire or Sikh Confederacy. As you noted, The category also contains military personnel of India who happen to be Sikhs, e.g. Jagjit Singh Aurora. Therefore, the current name is ambiguous. The renaming proposal will not resolve that ambiguity. If we are to identify them with the Sikh Empire as you mentioned in the rationale, then we should alt rename to Category:Military personnel of the Sikh Empire. This would be in line with my proposal A to rename the parent Category:Sikh military to Category:Military personnel of the Sikh Empire, with possibly a separate category for Category:Military personnel of the Sikh Confederacy. NLeeuw ( talk) 10:20, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
PS: Oh I see you already created Category:Military personnel of the Sikh Empire as a subcategory of Category:Sikh warriors 3 days ago. Shall we also create Category:Military personnel of the Sikh Confederacy and diffuse the rest? NLeeuw ( talk) 10:46, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Based on the proposal my response is predictable: I think the category is supposed to contain Sikh warriors while the Sikhs were self-governing, i.e. governing the Punjab region in which they were in the majority. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:27, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Sidenote: there wasn't really any such thing as military personnel of the Sikh Confederacy since the military was primarily organized per member state. They just joined forces upon need. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:42, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
while the Sikhs were self-governing, i.e. governing the Punjab region in which they were in the majority. I'm afraid that is an WP:ARBITRARYCAT. Political and military control over an area never perfectly coincides with the area where a certain ethnic, linguistic, religious etc. group lives or lived. That is the fiction of the modern nation-state, that you can have population and state borders coincide. E.g. there never was a time when all inhabitants of the "Netherlands" were "Dutch" by ethnicity, language, nationality or whatever, nor did they ever all adhere to exactly the same religion. Crosscats of people by nationality, by religion, by ethnicity and by language are always inappropriate for that reason.
If confederacies / confederations do not have military personnel, how come we've got: Category:Confederate States of America military personnel, Category:Swiss military personnel by century before 1848 (when Switzerland transformed from a confederation to a federation) etc.? Besides, there is an article about Dal Khalsa (Sikh Army). NLeeuw ( talk) 14:38, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It is more than likely that the area that the Sikhs controlled did not exactly match with the spread of their religion. But that does not matter for the articles which are clearly about Sikh warriors defending their territories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:45, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Sidenote: Category:16th-century Swiss military personnel is vague enough about how the military is organized, just like Category:Sikh warriors. It is not Category:16th-century military personnel of the Swiss Confederacy. On the other hand the Confederate States of America never seem to have had separate armies per state. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:10, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Battles of the Moldavian campaign of Tymofiy Khmelnytsky

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now without prejudice. Template:Campaignbox Moldavian campaign of Tymofiy Khmelnytsky indicates that this category could include up to 8 articles, but only 3 of them have been written so far, and they are fine to leave in the parent category for now. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:56, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
PS: An argument could be made to merge Template:Campaignbox Moldavian campaign of Tymofiy Khmelnytsky to Template:Campaignbox Khmelnytsky Uprising for now as well, but that's beyond the scope of CFD. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:58, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Paintings of Hebrew Bible themes

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Category: Willesden Cemetery

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy delete under G7. – Fayenatic London 12:57, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Australian business executives by industry

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:25, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation to only have one category in here. Mason ( talk) 04:30, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:21, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Australian mining entrepreneurs

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:25, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: overlapping category. Also there's no Category:Mining entrepreneurs (which suggests that this tree is probably also redundant) Mason ( talk) 04:29, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
support - good points made - however for the record - despite the fact that in the Australian context an entrepreneur tends to infer an investor/wealthy person, whereas businessperson includes and infers potentially management level - the lack of mining entrepeneurs as a tree seems to deny the universal phenomenon, which is extensive. JarrahTree 07:55, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
indifferent - closer examination - the specific article exists, and the separation between magnate/business person is clearly made at the head of the category - whereas the american mining business people conflates the issue by having text inside the main page Magnates of the mining industry. The conflation is unhelpful and combines the entrepreneurs and the rest. A merge will simply make a mess. JarrahTree 08:10, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support, the content of this category is a conflation anyway, with many articles about upper management level. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:30, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Jewish communities destroyed in the Holocaust

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Category:Carolus-Duran

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: There's no need to have a category with two interlinked pages. It doesn't help with navigation because the two pages are the painter and the list of their works. Mason ( talk) 23:00, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Beacom College football

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects. Let'srun ( talk) 21:19, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Films by country and year

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary category. We don't categorize films for the intersection of their home country with individual year, so there's no prospect of this being filled out -- the only contents here are the Egyptian category listed for discussion below (which isn't actually catting the films by year, but by century, and thus wouldn't belong here even if it were kept), and Category:Lists of films by country and year, which is already filed in other subcategories of the parents and thus doesn't need this. Bearcat ( talk) 20:34, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, this naturally follows from the nomination below. Marcocapelle ( talk) 01:22, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Egyptian films by year

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Category:Defunct IMAX venues

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects. Let'srun ( talk) 14:33, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Upmerge for now without prejudice. NLeeuw ( talk) 15:04, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:38, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Statues depicting Mary Magdalene

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Not all of these sculptures are statues; The Deposition (Michelangelo) is a sculptural group of multiple figures. In this recent CfD "Sculptures of" became the preferred phrasing over "Sculptures depicting". Ham II ( talk) 13:13, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Courtroom novels

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Perhaps I've just misunderstood something here, in which case please resoundingly reject this, but I can't seem to find the difference between these two categories or any reason why they should be separate. All but one (The Children Act) of Courtroom novels' entries appear in both categories. If I had to guess, I think one refers to the legal drama (or, more specifically, the "courtroom drama") genre while the other is the setting, but I get the sense that may just be a distinction without difference. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 12:54, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Battles by country

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: To avoid further confusion, and make clear that we mean by country involved, not the geographical location in which the battle, war, military operation/campaign, siege or naval battle took place. All six categories already have a description explaining this, but apparently it is not enough, because editors keep misinterpreting the scope. Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Category:Battles by location. NLeeuw ( talk) 12:48, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Rename for more clarity about the purpose of these categories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:30, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Sikh monarchs

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Category:Hindkowan families

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:44, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Hindkowan diaspora

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:44, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:01, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Fictional West Asian people

Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 April 29#Category:Fictional Western European people (all Upmerged) per WP:NONDEFINING and WP:ARBITRARYCAT. NLeeuw ( talk) 13:29, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment, European regions do not have natural geographic boundaries and in history the European countries have interacted with each other heavily irrespective of any region definitions. I am not sure if the same applies to Asia. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:11, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep all except West Asia. Most people agree on the definitions of the subregions of Asia, except for West Asia and the classification of Afghanistan. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 08:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Let's do a simple reading, shall we?
South Asia#Definition: The geographical extent is not clear cut as systemic and foreign policy orientations of its constituents are quite asymmetrical. Beyond the core territories of the Indian Empire (territories of the British Empire which were under the system of British Raj), there is a high degree of variation as to which other countries are included in South Asia.
Central Asia#Definition: The borders of Central Asia are subject to multiple definitions.
East Asia#Definitions: (complicated, read for yourselves)
Southeast Asia#Definition: Although from a cultural or linguistic perspective the definitions of "Southeast Asia" may vary, the most common definitions nowadays include the area represented by the countries (sovereign states and dependent territories) listed below. ( WP:UNSOURCED, typical case of WP:OR)
West Asia#Definition The term West Asia is used pragmatically and has no "correct" or generally accepted definition.
It's quite evident that there are no universally accepted definitions of these subregions. Same as with Europe. East Asia seems closest to having a commonly accepted definition, but even there we see lots of variation in official usage by governments and international organisations like the UN. Geography doesn't really provide natural boundaries, at least very few that seem to follow present-day national borders. (E.g. the Himalayas do represent the northern boundary of "South Asia", but UNESCO includes Tibet and Uyghur in "Central Asia", which most definitions include into "East Asia", so that doesn't help very much.) As LP indicates, Afghanistan could be included in Central, South and even West Asia (for biological, geological or cultural-linguistic reasons); Pakistan is also sometimes included in "Middle East / West Asia and North Africa". Myanmar could be both South and Southeast Asia. And so on. NLeeuw ( talk) 12:20, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • LaundryPizza03's made a comment about West Asia. It does make sense to merge West Asia and keep Asia as a parent of Middle East because West Asia and Middle East are almost coterminous. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:28, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    I'm even more opposed to "Fictional Middle Eastern people", actually. It's one of the most arbitrary eurocentric neologisms of the 20th century, rarely has a positive connotation, and comes with numerous generalisations. I've been gently steering towards commonly accepted continental categorisations where that seems appropriate instead of these arbitrary regions and subregions that everyone seems to have a home-made arbitrary definition for. NLeeuw ( talk) 22:16, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge West Asia. For the rest I have no opinion. -- Aldij ( talk) 12:45, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Category:Public baths in the Arab world

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Hammam. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 18:07, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Implementation note: as this is a set category not a topic category, I am merging it to the existing Category:Hammams. – Fayenatic London 16:01, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT. 5 out of 16 are located in Spain, 1 in Israel, which are not usually considered part of the "Arab world" (itself a contested and arbitrary term). It also seems that "Turkish bath", "Islamic bath" and "Arab(ic) bath" are all lumped together. I think the non-Spain articles are best upmerged for now. For the others, subcategories can be created once they have at least 5 articles. Morocco, Syria, Egypt etc. NLeeuw ( talk) 15:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Hmmm ok. Rename to Category:Hammam per Marcocapelle. NLeeuw ( talk) 12:23, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Natural history

  • Propose deleting:
more categories nominated
Nominator's rationale: delete, Natural history used to be what we call Natural sciences today, the umbrella term of biology, physics, chemistry etc. The current meaning of natural history is very fuzzy. The content of these categories largely overlaps with Category:Environment of Bangladesh, Category:Environment of Barbados etc. This is a follow-up nomination after Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_11#Natural_history. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:35, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per precedent. These are WP:ARBITRARYCATs which do not aid navigation. NLeeuw ( talk) 17:34, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. This is a confused nomination citing another confused discussion as precedent. There is certainly a reasonable intersection between the natural sciences, such as the biology, botany, zoölogy, paleontology, geology, etc. of a place, and the place that they represent. The nominator here and in the previous discussion linked above notes that the term "natural history" is somewhat synonymous with "natural sciences", which would be a valid reason to move these categories or change the titles to "natural history of foo", but not to delete them unless they simply duplicated "natural sciences of foo" or "environment of foo", or a similarly-named set of categories.
But in many instances there are no such categories; I came here from WikiProject West Virginia, and there does not seem to be a similar category combining the included articles or subcategories. The overlap mentioned by the nominator does not exist in this instance, and probably does not in many others. It makes no sense to use the supposed overlap with categories that do not exist as a justification for deleting others that do. The second comment above, supporting deletion, is for a completely different reason: the supposition that there is no valid intersection between the natural sciences of an area, region, or country.
The nominator seems to suppose that there is value in collecting these articles and subcategories, but that these are redundant and mistitled; the other person does not think there is any point in collecting them in the first place. This is the same pair of contradictory reasons provided by the same two editors in the above-linked discussion being cited as precedent. I also submit that said discussion involved only these two and one other editor, and so does not set a very strong precedent for deciding the fate of hundreds of existing categories. P Aculeius ( talk) 11:54, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Category:Natural history of West Virginia consists like its siblings of biota, flora, fauna, forests which are or belong in environment. There are also geology and paleontology subcategories which are very unrelated. Marcocapelle ( talk) 14:00, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    They are related in the sense that "environment" is related to both geology and paleontology, and readers might be served by finding a category or container category for these items together, grouped by state, region, or country. Just as a category for "natural sciences" groups these topics (or parent categories containing them), someone studying a particular place wold benefit from being able to find a grouping of biology, geology, paleontology, etc. relating to that place.
    It also makes sense to group the natural sciences away from cultural topics, such as history, politics, education, etc., rather than just having one overarching category for the place containing all of the subcategories or topics relating to it. For example, it makes sense to have "Fauna of West Virginia", "Geology of West Virginia", "Cheat Canyon", and "Mingo Oak" grouped together with each other, but not with "List of governors of West Virginia", "Taxation in West Virginia" and "Tennessee Gas Pipeline".
    As far as the title is concerned, alternative formulations—"environment of", for example—can be a bit vague; is a list of species part of "environment", or the geography of the Appalachians? Is paleontology a topic within "environment"? It seems to me that "natural history" is the broadest formulation, as "natural sciences" might be understood to have a more limited scope; a salamander or a canyon might not sound like it fits in the latter category—although I suppose someone unfamiliar with the term "natural history" might regard it similarly. Either way, deleting the category seems unhelpful to readers. P Aculeius ( talk) 15:00, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per P Aculeius, whose arguments have completely convinced me that these categories are both useful and not redundant. Whether "natural history" or "natural science" is the better title I'm unsure of, but whichever is deletion is not the answer. Thryduulf ( talk) 20:59, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • There isn't any grouping in science that treats biology (flora and fauna), geology and paleontology as a coherent group. Neither "natural history" nor "natural sciences" are commonly used for such combinations. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:20, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    And yet, it seems that all of these are included under the headings of "natural history" and "natural sciences". So are those groupings invalid, or just not the categories that come first to mind when thinking of individual sciences? P Aculeius ( talk) 15:38, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    • They are included under the headings of "natural history" here in Wikipedia categories. But that does not mean anything. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
      If "natural history" and/or "natural sciences" are valid categories of science, as they seem to be, then it makes sense to group the subjects of these headings by location. Anyone researching places, such as West Virginia, California, Poland, Saudi Arabia, etc. would presumably benefit from finding categories containing sciences related to those specific places, as opposed to history, politics, economics, etc. It may be possible to subdivide "natural history" or "natural sciences" into narrower groups of topics—but that doesn't mean that the overarching categories are of no value to readers. P Aculeius ( talk) 14:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all country and continent categories as an unnecessary duplication of existing categories. We should probably keep Category:Natural history and Category:Natural history museums by country‎. But if not deleted, due to lack of consensus, then restore those deleted in the previous nomination. – Fayenatic London 13:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Beringia

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Category:Virginia dynasty

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: per WP:NARROWCAT. The category is a limited scope to only four people. There will not be further additions to this. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 19:09, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose Five articles are more than enough for a category. Dimadick ( talk) 19:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Lean to delete, it does not seem a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:50, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. The main article Virginia dynasty is poorly developed, and most of the bios of the 4 presidents do not even mention the term, or only in passing. The term "dynasty" can only be considered a very loose metaphor anyway, as these were elected presidents in a republic, not related to each other biologically, none of them was born in Virginia, the 2nd president John Adams breaks the "line", even the first president's "Virginity" (pun intended) is questioned in the 2nd sentence, so all we really have is 3 presidents who weren't really born in Virginia, not really related to each other, not really monarchs who succeeded each other dynastically, being randomly associated by some people, but not really a lot of people. Yeah... nah. We might almost delete the main article as well, but that's beyond this CFD. NLeeuw ( talk) 11:50, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Battles in Northamptonshire

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 18:07, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN. Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Category:Battles by location. NLeeuw ( talk) 10:53, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Battles in Fukushima Prefecture

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN. Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Category:Battles by location. NLeeuw ( talk) 10:51, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support, these are battles with involvement of local rulers, "involving Japan" is slightly off because the government of Japan was not involved, but "in Fukushima Prefecture" makes even less sense. On top of that, the number of articles is not such that we should keep this category under a better name. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:15, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Battles in the Azores

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Military history of the Azores and purge Category:Battles involving Portugal as a parent. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:04, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN. Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Category:Battles by location. Not all these battles involved Portugal, but they did have something to do with the Azores. NLeeuw ( talk) 10:48, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Battles in Uganda

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 18:09, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Category:Battles involving Uganda if Republic of Uganda was a participant;
otherwise to Category:Military history of Uganda
Nominator's rationale: WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN. Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Category:Battles by location. I propose to manually upmerge these to battles in Uganda where applicable, and if the modern Republic of Uganda was not a participant, to Category:Military history of Uganda. NLeeuw ( talk) 10:28, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Battles in Latvia

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:09, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Category:Battles of the Livonian Crusade, or
Category:Battles involving the Livonian Order, or
Category:Battles involving Latvia, or
Category:Military history of Latvia (remainder)
Nominator's rationale: WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN. Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Category:Battles by location. These battles are an WP:ARBITRARYCAT / WP:OVERLAPCAT mix of Category:Battles of the Livonian Crusade, Category:Battles involving the Livonian Order, Category:Battles involving Latvia, and others. I propose to manually merge all items into one of these categories (if they're not there already), and put any remainders into Category:Military history of Latvia. NLeeuw ( talk) 10:21, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support, "in Latvia" is anachronistic because Latvia did not exist yet, but there have been other states in the same region who already have their own battles category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:38, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Battles in Jamaica

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:07, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN, WP:ARBITRARYCAT; location seems to be WP:NONDEFINING. Even if it were defining, it's only 3 items, so Upmerge for now applies. Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Category:Battles by location. NLeeuw ( talk) 10:05, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support, the anachronism argument (which I argued below) may not apply, arguably this refers to the island of Jamaica. But nom is right about the small size of the category anyway. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:30, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Battles in Estonia

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Military history of Estonia and purge Battle of Määritsa and Battle of Wesenberg (1268). (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:06, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN, WP:ARBITRARYCAT; location seems to be WP:NONDEFINING. Parent Category:Battles involving Estonia does not apply to 13 out of 15 articles, as "Estonia" as such did not exist, or was not a participant. Battle of Määritsa and Battle of Wesenberg (1268) are already in Category:Battles involving Estonia, and although that involved the Estonian partisans/ Forest Brothers and the Duchy of Estonia (1219–1346) ("Danish Estonia") respectively, that is arguably correct. Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Category:Battles by location. NLeeuw ( talk) 10:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support, "in Estonia" is anachronistic because Estonia did not exist yet. "History of" is arguably correct though. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:25, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Battles in Angola

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The result of the discussion was: implement the alt proposal. Namely, manually recategorise most contents to Category:Battles involving Portuguese Angola; Upmerge remainder to Category:Military history of Angola. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:46, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN, WP:ARBITRARYCAT; location seems to be WP:NONDEFINING. Not all battles involved the modern republic of Angola, so parent Category:Battles involving Angola does not always apply. Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Category:Battles by location.
Alt proposal rationale: A partial alternative may be to manually recategorise the majority of the contents into a to-be-created Category:Battles involving Portuguese Angola (as many involved the colony of Portuguese Angola), and Upmerge the remainder to Category:Military history of Angola. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:44, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Private battles in the British Isles

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The result of the discussion was: disperse to Category:Military history of England and Category:Military history of Scotland. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:03, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT WP:NARROWCAT; location seems to be WP:NONDEFINING. Unclear what added value "private" has, and both other parents by definition do not apply to all items and subcategories. Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Category:Battles by location. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:34, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Battles involving the Seljuk Turks in Anatolia

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:02, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN, WP:ARBITRARYCAT WP:NARROWCAT; location seems to be WP:NONDEFINING. Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Category:Battles by location. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:31, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Deaths from asthma in the Isle of Man

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:02, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one asthma death in the isle of man, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 05:34, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Medieval canals

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:02, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated categories with very little content, this does not contribute to easy navigation. Marcocapelle ( talk) 02:42, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 05:35, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. NLeeuw ( talk) 06:23, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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May 3

Category:Deaths from tabes dorsalis

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:01, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge. This category is for a specific way to die from syphilis. I don't think that the specific mechanism is defining Mason ( talk) 22:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Cartoonists by country templates

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Category:Paintings of Hebrew Bible people by book

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary category layer. It had only one parent (the target category); I added Category:Books of the Hebrew Bible, but that doesn't really make this into a useful intersection. – Fayenatic London 20:39, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. In addition two of the subcategories may be upmerged too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Many books of the Hebrew Bible are remixings and recyclings of other books of the Hebrew Bible, and so we could get endless category duplicates for all the Hebrew Bible books that mention Moses, Joshua, Jacob etc. NLeeuw ( talk) 08:53, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Paintings of figures from the Deuteronomistic history

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:01, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category:Deuteronomistic history (see Deuteronomistic history) is not part of the standard division of Bible books in either Jewish or Christian tradition. – Fayenatic London 20:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Note: If not merged, this should be renamed using "people" rather than "figures" like its parent hierarchy. – Fayenatic London 20:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, trivial intersection between biblical art and historical critical scholarship. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per Marcocapelle. It is unwise to be intersecting critical scholarship and biblical art this way; most paintings were created before modern critical scholarship even existed. NLeeuw ( talk) 08:55, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, not so much a "trivial intersection" but an unfamiliar term to most, and a tree that is not too crowded anyway. Johnbod ( talk) 04:26, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Nudity in film

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The result of the discussion was: purge of every individual film. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is a purge proposal rather than a deletion proposal per se; there may be a case to be made that the ongoing monitoring needed to properly maintain this category is more trouble than it's worth, although that's not the argument I'm prepared to mount in the moment (though I wouldn't stand in the way of a consensus going in that direction either.)
The issue here is that the category's usage note states that it is for films that "pioneered nudity or were controversial due to nudity", but it has a bad habit of collecting random films that happen to have nude scenes in them without stating or sourcing anything whatsoever about the nude scenes being either "pioneering" or "controversial" -- on a random spotcheck of about ten or so articles here, only one contained any content whatsoever to support any kind of controversy, and the majority failed to even contain the words "nude" or "nudity" at all apart from the presence of this category.
It's certainly possible that some of the films I didn't check were genuinely pioneering or controversial (I didn't, frex, spotcheck anything with "naked" or "nude" in its title, since I was looking for questionable entries rather than obviously includable ones), but not everything in this category actually fits that criterion -- so it needs to be either purged of any entries that aren't sourceably pioneering or controversial, or simply deleted as more trouble to maintain than it's worth. A category indiscriminately listing all films that ever had nude scenes in them at all is certainly not something we would need, but that's exactly what this is in danger of becoming if we're not sufficiently on the ball about keeping it clean. Bearcat ( talk) 20:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:McCarthyists

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:34, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Direct overlap between this category and the anti-communist category. User:Namiba 19:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Weak oppose I think McCarthyists represent a specific era of American anti-communism, namely the late 1940s through the 1950s, as the main article McCarthyism says. It's also a more specific style of anti-Communism, connected with American patriotism and replete with conspiracy theories that turned out to be false. Plenty of American anti-communists of the time had different reasons for opposing communism than the rather fringe ideas of a demagogue and conspiracist like McCarthy. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:11, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Looking at the articles in this category, few of them make any mention of McCarthyism and are not defined by it. McCarthyism is a catch-all term for anti-communism during the aforementioned period. Outside of Joseph McCarthy and a few others, anti-communist is a better descriptor according to sources.-- User:Namiba 11:32, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Fair enough. Changed my !vote to Weak oppose. Still not excited, but it might be okay. NLeeuw ( talk) 22:20, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete or merge, looking at the articles, many aren't defined by either anti-communism or McCarthyism, so deletion is also a good option. Otherwise merge, people living in the same time and having similar opinions as one senator is a kind of WP:OCASSOC. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:54, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Swedish emigrants to Japan

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The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 19:51, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual speedy upmerge for now. These categories were deleted due to only having one person it in (and is still the case), which wasn't helpful for navigation. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_May_11#More_emigrants Mason ( talk) 11:42, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Battles involving Bengal

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Fooian American billionaires

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The result of the discussion was: merge all. (non-admin closure) Toadette Edit! 01:42, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Follow-up discussion to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 24#Category:Asian American billionaires. WP:OCEGRS; upmerge all to Category:American billionaires. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support all per my comments at previous discussion. Chubbles ( talk) 22:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support all the ones listed here. (a.k.a. all of them except African Americans) also per my prior comment. Mason ( talk) 22:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 02:32, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:17, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Ethnic groups in Europe by language family

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 18:59, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Geography is WP:NONDEFINING for language families. Each of these "ethnic groups" (if we can even call them that) has "members" living on every single continent on Earth, and there is no reason to categorise them by continent. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. It is a strange category tree anyway, it is more like ethnic groups named after their language family, or maybe just ethnolinguistic groups. Marcocapelle ( talk) 02:38, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:United States National Recording Registry albums

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Category:Sikh terrorism by country

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 18:59, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only three (and probably soon only two) subcategories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Battles by location

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 10:49, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Recently created (12 March 2024) trivial intersection between military history and modern geography. We categorise Category:Battles by "country" (i.e. "battles involving country X"), "period", "type" (naval, aerial etc.), and "war", but not location or geography. We should follow precedent and delete any battles category based on location/geography as a WP:NONDEFINING WP:TRIVIAL WP:CROSSCAT.
Follow-up to:
Procedural note: I think it is important to confirm the precedents first, namely that battles should not be categorised by location/geography. But if it is desired that all subcategories be included in this nomination rather than nominated in a follow-up, I will tag them as well. But I expect that they will need a customised case-by-case approach with mergers and renamings, as happened with the Flanders/Wallonia, Drenthe, and Netherlands by province precedents. It would be wise to do so according to the Manescheut principle: Merging to the History of (modern territory) category (Ane), or Merging to the historically applicable territory (Scheut). E.g. Category:Battles in the Azores could be upmerged to Category:History of the Azores (Ane), merged to Category:History of the Portuguese Empire (Scheut), or perhaps renamed to Category:Military history of the Azores; it doesn't necessarily need to be deleted, but the current situation is untenable.
Therefore, to prevent a WP:TRAINWRECK, I'm only nominating the recently created two new categories for deletion, and to purge the subcategories that are in the battle by country (involved) and battle by type (battlespace) trees. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:10, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • The nomination deserves sympathy, but the proposal is deletion of the parent categories while the subcategories are the bigger issue. By deleting the parents we will merely loose sight of the subcategories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Marcocapelle Granted. Then maybe I should start by the roots of the tree first? Alternately, I could simply copypaste the contents of the category here for reference while we clean the tree up, so that we don't lose sight of it.
    Incidentally, it does have a main article: List of battles by geographic location. A December 2022 AfD, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of battles by geographic location, decided to keep but split the article by country. Some efforts have been made to do that, but it is far from completed. The argument that the location of a battle may be WP:NONDEFINING or WP:TRIVIAL, or in the words of the nom Second, it is organized by current country, even if the battle took place before the country existed and who in the world is going to look for the Battle of Megiddo (15th century BC) in the Israel section?, did not receive broad support in favour of deletion by the other participants, who seemed only concerned with navigability. Moreover, nobody seemed concerned that the entire list is WP:UNSOURCED.
    This does worry me a little. If the mainspace does not object to putting battles in lists by geographic location, does the category space have a good reason to object to it and delete such categories anyway? NLeeuw ( talk) 14:02, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    PS: List of battles in Belgium was even deleted on 18 March 2024, shortly after it was split off from the List of battles by geographic location, because it had no sources. The same could happen to all lists of battles by country that have been split off or will be split off in the future. I'm not sure how we should proceed. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    • Starting by the roots of the tree first would have my preference, copypasting the contents of the category here for reference while we clean the tree up would be my second choice. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
      @ Marcocapelle I've withdrawn the nomination for now (see below), and began working on the roots of the tree. I also just found WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN as a good guideline to invoke in phasing out battles by location categories. NLeeuw ( talk) 10:13, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Withdraw nomination for now as nom. We will start by the roots of this category tree first and work our way to the top. I've WP:BOLDly purged the two subcategories already for this purpose. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:25, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Pocatello Army Air Base Bombardiers football seasons

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 13#Category:Pocatello Army Air Base Bombardiers football seasons

Film controversies in India

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The result of the discussion was: Purge * Pppery * it has begun... 19:50, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Subcategories of Category:Film controversies by country: this one also has a subcategory which needs purging, so I have elected to nominate it separately to avoid a WP:TRAINWRECK. Purge of all articles about films, leaving only the articles about controversies themselves. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Purge all articles about a particular film, but keep subcategories and articles about controversies, per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 02:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Purge per nom. NLeeuw ( talk) 08:03, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Film controversies in South Africa

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Toadette Edit! 01:47, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Subcategories of Category:Film controversies by country: I don't see a future for this category in its current state. Most of the articles in this category are controversial films, not articles about film controversies. What stopped me from including it in the mass nomination is Films and Publications Act, 1996, which seems does not seem to belong here, either. Even if we grant that it does belong here, after purging the articles about films this would be a single-member category. Delete this category; discussion of the categorization of Films and Publications Act, 1996 can take place at Talk:Films and Publications Act, 1996 House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Film controversies in Malaysia

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Toadette Edit! 01:48, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Subcategories of Category:Film controversies by country: I don't see a future for this category in its current state. Most of the articles in this category are controversial films, not articles about film controversies. What stopped me from including it in the mass nomination is 1Malaysia Development Berhad scandal, which seems does not seem to belong here, either. Even if we grant that it does belong here, after purging the articles about films this would be a single-member category. Delete this category; discussion of the categorization of 1Malaysia Development Berhad scandal can take place at Talk:1Malaysia Development Berhad scandal. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Subcategories of Category:Film controversies by country

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The result of the discussion was: Delete/purge * Pppery * it has begun... 19:49, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 23#Category:Film controversies in Spain, in which it was decided to nominate the entire tree of Category:Film controversies by country. I would in theory say we should purge the categories of articles about films themselves – leaving only articles about controversies themselves. However, doing that would leave most of these categories empty. Therefore, I have nominated those categories for deletion, with no prejudice against recreating any of these categories if they can be appropriately populated. The ones which do contain articles about film controversies themselves (e.g. Category:Film controversies in Canada contains Natural Born Killers copycat crimes) I have nominated for purging. If, after purging, any category is too small to be useful we can have a discussion about upmerging that category.

I have not nominated Category:Film controversies by country for anything in particular, but I will tag it so it can be discussed here. I personally would advocate for that it be kept, even though most of its contents will no longer exist.

There are also three categories ( Category:Film controversies in South Africa, Category:Film controversies in India, and Category:Film controversies in Malaysia) which have considerations specific to that category; I will start separate discussions on those to avoid a WP:TRAINWRECK. Also pinging participants in Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 23#Category:Film controversies in Spain: Marcocapelle, Bearcat, Qwerfjkl, and Nederlandse Leeuw. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Support per nom and my own rationale in the previous discussion. To summarise: It should not be sufficient to only have a "controversy/controversies" section in an article about the film itself; although it may help establish notability, it is usually WP:NONDEFINING. Nor is it appropriate to label an entire film as "controversial" per WP:SUBJECTIVECAT, and Category:Controversial films has been repeatedly deleted for that reason. And yet, almost the entire tree of Category:Film controversies by country is currently populated with main articles about the films themselves, rather than stand-alone spin-off articles about the controversies they caused. I think that is very inappropriate categorisation practice. I happened to come across it first with the Spain subcategory, but as this is not a Spain-only issue, at the request of fellow editors, I have withdrawn the nomination in favour of a broad discussion about the entire tree. I thank HouseBlaster for preparing this follow-up. NLeeuw ( talk) 02:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support i.e. purge all articles about a particular film, but keep subcategories and articles about controversies, per nom. And delete the category if it becomes empty after the purge. Marcocapelle ( talk) 02:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support purging and deleting subsequently empty categories. The same purging appears needed at the parent Category:Film controversies with the rationale Nederlandse Leeuw provides. CMD ( talk) 07:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Rename them like this Category:Bangladeshi films involved in controversies. Mehedi Abedin 11:14, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    That's just Category:Controversial films under another name. It remains a WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:34, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Spam filtering

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: These seem to be the same topic - many pages are in both. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. There could be a set category for spam filters but that can be created after this merge. Marcocapelle ( talk) 02:44, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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May 2

Disputed/unknown cause

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:05, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Feels very much like a WP:OCMISC to me. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:25, 2 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Aviation accidents and incidents caused by mechanical failure

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Aviation accidents and incidents involving engineering failures. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:05, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer. Boeing manufacturing and design issues fits just as well in the subcat. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:25, 2 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Aircraft bombings

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:04, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer. Category:Kamikaze shouldn't be here at all since the scope appears to be "bombings targeted at aircraft", not "bombings using aircraft as a weapon" (which would be Category:Bomber aircraft) and Kamikaze bombers targeted ships rather than aircraft. That leaves only one redirect and one subcat. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:12, 2 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Aviation accidents and incidents involving uncontained engine failure

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:04, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer. Only one subcat * Pppery * it has begun... 21:10, 2 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:NAIA Women's Basketball Championships

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:06, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Over-capitalized. Dicklyon ( talk) 20:30, 2 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Deputy Heads of state

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category of unclear utility, whose name isn't really an accurate reflection of its contents. This was created within the past month solely as a parent for Category:Vice presidential residences -- but that's already a subcategory of Category:Vice presidencies, and the name of this implies that its contents should be people rather than inanimate things related to job titles. There really aren't other types of "deputy head of state" besides vice-presidents anyway, so this functionally just duplicates another category that already exists. Bearcat ( talk) 14:34, 2 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Useful category to hold the articles on deputy heads of state, most of which would be titled vice president or other similar titles. 42.200.80.48 ( talk) 12:50, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • They would not be titled vice presidents, they are titled vice presidents. And vice presidents already have their own tree. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:40, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Buildings and structures on the Ashley River (South Carolina)

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, the categories contain only one article each, that is not helpful for navigation between articles. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:56, 2 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:John Hawks buildings in New Bern, North Carolina

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: There's no need to difuse this category be the city that these buildings are in given that these are the only two buildings in the full tree. Mason ( talk) 04:04, 2 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • I added a third article but that does not change matters, the parent category remains empty, so merge. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:00, 2 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Nazi Germany ministers

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Government ministers of Nazi Germany. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Fix the rather ungrammatical title of this category and rename it to be consistent the main article, Hitler cabinet ( t · c) buidhe 04:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Atari 8-bit family games

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The result of the discussion was: rename all. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:08, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Article has recently gone through a name change to Atari 8-bit computers. This category should reflect that. Andrzejbanas ( talk) 13:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

-- Krótki ( talk) 05:39, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Unless anyone is going to object to the article move (which happened 2 weeks ago) the category name should just follow the new article name. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:48, 2 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Rename all per nom and Krótki. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:54, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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36 to 42 days old

May 1

14th-century transport infrastructure

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:09, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, unnecessary complex tree for only three articles in total. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:44, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Chitrali cuisine

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn by nominator and retagged as C1. ( non-admin closure) ‍—‍ a smart kitten[ meow 08:31, 2 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary; Only one article in category, which is the titular article Chitrali cuisine. Chitrali cuisine has also already been added to the proper categories, so we don't need a merge. ForsythiaJo ( talk) 22:36, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • The category is meanwhile empty. Presumably this is a case of speedy WP:C2F anyway. Marcocapelle ( talk) 23:34, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Yes, this category has been emptied. No need to come to CFD. Liz Read! Talk! 01:15, 2 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Continental League contributors

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Category:Continental League

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Category:USA for Africa songs

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The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 22:40, 31 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Categories containing only 1 article. Unlikely to be expanded since the group has been inactive for 40 years. Mika1h ( talk) 12:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep While not a guideline, there is consensus per WP:ALBUMSTYLE "that a category for an artist's albums should be created even if they have only released one album (irrespective of whether they are likely to release more in the future)." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars ( talk • contribs) 18:18, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Dutch cookies

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:10, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: overcategorization, attempt to empty the categories cookie and Dutch cuisine. The Banner  talk 07:23, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:WikiProject Film task force usage

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:07, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Outdated WikiProject tracking categories, no longer applied or used by the template that formerly used them. {{ WikiProject Film}} used to feature code that would count how many of the project's task forces any given film had been assigned to, and automatically sort the page into one of these categories accordingly -- but it no longer does, so none of these categories are still in any use because the template isn't populating them anymore.
They can of course be recreated in the future if they're ever actually needed again, but there's no need to indefinitely hold onto them if they're not actually being used. Bearcat ( talk) 19:00, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Russo-Turkish War (1672-1681)

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Russo-Turkish War (1676–1681) * Pppery * it has begun... 19:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Recently created new category with an error in its name. The two articles filed here both say that the Russo-Turkish war that they were part of began in 1676, not 1672 -- and indeed, we have an article titled Russo-Turkish War (1676–1681), but none titled Russo-Turkish War (1672–1681). Meanwhile, there's a completely separate article about a Polish–Ottoman War (1672–1676), but the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was not part of Russia in that era, so they aren't the same thing and wouldn't belong in one merged category.
I'm not sure whether the creator just made a typo or actually merged two separate wars together, but this category should be renamed and have Russo-Turkish War (1676–1681) added to it as its head article (although I'm not inclined to preemptively add it to the wrongly-named category in the interim.) Bearcat ( talk) 14:37, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:5th-century Irish literature

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:11, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Isolated category, not currently useful for navigation as it only holds 5th-century Irish writers, which is already in all the parent categories via other hierarchies. – Fayenatic London 09:36, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Connector category between the Irish writers tree of cats and the Irish literature cat. 42.200.80.48 ( talk) 12:53, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Redirects from gender

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Redirects from gendered terms. Per consensus. – robertsky ( talk) 20:35, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The current title, Category:Redirects from gender, was a little confusing to me - at first, the name suggested to me that this category (and the related template) might be for categorizing redirects from the name of a gender identity. I propose moving it to the more specific title Category:Redirects from gendered terms, in order to clarify the purpose of this redirect category and remove the potential ambiguity.
Starting this CfD as a parallel discussion to the RM at Template talk:R from gender § Requested move 1 May 2024. All the best, ‍—‍ a smart kitten[ meow 09:23, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Spinozist philosophers

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:02, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant with either Category:Spinozists (adherents to Spinoza's philosophy) or Category:Spinoza scholars (philosophers who produce scholarship on Spinoza, independent of their own inclination).

All current members of this category are also in one of those two categories. Psychastes ( talk) 03:40, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Support per nom. In addition, the description on the category page is such that it is hardly a defining characteristic, more a case of WP:OCASSOC. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:59, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Princes of Vladimir

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Though I would argue that the set of "people who edit Wikipedia for fun" is a subset of "people who are nerds". ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:07, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant layer. Upmerge to parents.
Detailed explanation for nerds :)

Theoretically speaking, the first one, Andrey Bogolyubsky, never called himself "grand prince of Vladimir", and was never called it while alive. But the linguistic evidence shows his successor Vsevolod the Big Nest had himself called "grand prince" in the Suzdalian Chronicle from 1185 onwards (see Talk:Vladimir-Suzdal#When did the princes of Vladimir become grand? if you are as nerdy as me and want to know all the details. ;) ). At most, we could put 2 items in this category, 1 of which will also be in its only child, while the other is often (technically incorrectly) called "grand prince" in literature anyway. We could also include Mikhail of Vladimir and Yaropolk Rostislavich, who sat on the throne for a very short time during the 1174–1177 Suzdalian war of succession that Vsevolod ended up winning, but that still only fills the category with 4 people. So I'm okay with treating them as essentially the same.

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Category:Armenian screenwriters by century

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Category:People with non-binary gender identities

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:07, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: To be more objective. The current title became unnecessary since every non-binary biography is diffused into subcategories. I can understand that not every person with a non-binary gender identity self-identifies as non-binary personally, and that the list uses this phrase in the title, but we name Category:Non-binary writers, not Category:Writers with non-binary gender identities. And the names would be too big. -- MikutoH talk! 01:31, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Support per nomination. Makes sense and thanks. Jessamyn ( my talk page) 01:20, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support – I don't think we use "people with [x]" for any self-applied label, so this reads very very weird. ~ Maplestrip/Mable ( chat) 08:28, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:New Zealand Rātanas

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:10, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Procedural follow up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 21#Category:Rātanas. Pinging participants there @ Grutness, @ Marcocapelle, @ HTGS. Qwerfjkl talk 17:23, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support, this way it is clearer that it is a biographical category. And it is too obvious that it is about New Zealand people, that does not have to be added to the category name. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:30, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support - that would be a sensible option. Grutness... wha? 05:22, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support as above. Worth considering that “Ratanas” is also ambiguous between followers of the man, and his family and descendants. Hopefully the new name is fine with encompassing both? Categories for certain NZ families with many notable figures are not uncommon. And thank you for the ping ☺️ —  HTGS ( talk)
  • Family (if not followers) should be covered by a Category:Rātana family if there are enough of these articles. But if all notable family members are followers then we will not need such a category anyway. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:03, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Third-person view

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Category:Intersex lesbians

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (Noting that OP proposed keeping the category in the nomination.) (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 23:27, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Since its siblings ( Category:Non-binary lesbians and Category:Intersex gay men) were nominated for discussion, I bring it here for consensus. Merge or keep? -- MikutoH talk! 22:32, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:First Nations drawing artists

Nominator's rationale: There is no "drawing artists" category. Mason ( talk) 15:20, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Would these categories be acceptable if there was a larger "drawing artists" category? We already have Category:Cartoonists, Category:Draughtsmen, and Category:Illustrators, plus artists in Category:Ballpoint pen art, and we don't yet have a category for artists who use charcoal, so there would be plenty to fill a larger umbrella category. ForsythiaJo ( talk) 15:51, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Honestly, I don't think that drawing artist is a defining category. Mason ( talk) 21:09, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • There is Ledger art but I am not sure if the articles would fit that. In fact most articles just say "artist", so the merge seems reasonable. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:00, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose merge. There are not good terms for fine artists who prominently draw (pen and ink, pencil, pastels, etc.). Illustrators, draftsmen, and graphic artists are sometimes used, but the phenomenon of Native American, First Nations, and especially Inuit artists who predominantly draw is well established. Yuchitown ( talk) 16:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Can you point to literature on the this predominance? And do you have a suggestion for better name for the occupation? Mason ( talk) 03:48, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Support Firstly, we should never localize by using just "First Nations", a term large numbers of our readers won't be familiar with. Secondly, whilst I recognise issues mentioned above, I don't think we want a new overall category for "drawing artists" or even "graphic artists". In most traditions, few artists worked exclusively in drawing. "Artists" is enough. Johnbod ( talk) 03:09, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Yes, First Nations people are absolutely categorized. See Category:First Nations people and its numerous subcats. Yes, numerous fine artists do specialize in drawing (pen and ink, graphite, pastels, etc.). Seems like some familiarity with the subject at hand should be valued in these conversations. Not everyone understands Category:Axiomatic quantum field theory but we don't upmerge it. Yuchitown ( talk) 17:02, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Yuchitown reply
    They may be, but they shouldn't be! "of Canada" needs to be added for our many (cough) NON-CANADIAN readers. Johnbod ( talk) 02:08, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    The term "First Nations" is widely known throughout the U.S. and the difference between Native Americans (used for the Indigenous peoples of the US) and First Nations (used for Indigenous peoples of Canada) is quite clear. The term "First Nations", also is used in Australia, another English-speaking country, although other terms are used there as well. It may not be as commonly used in the UK, but I don't think that should rule out its use as a category. Netherzone ( talk) 23:35, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    And are Australian artists going to be added here? Or American ones? You say the term is "clear", but I repeat it is not globally well-known. What do you think our vast numbers of Indian readers will make of it? Or doesn't that matter? If a term is essentially only known in North America, and Australia where it means entirely different people, it should NOT be used in a category name. Johnbod ( talk) 01:14, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. Since we're supposed to continue discussion after the relisting, I'm responding here to Mason request. Like I said in my "oppose", there isn't a good term for artists who specialize in drawing. Draftsman has gender issues. Graphic artist is widely used, especially in regard to Inuit artists ( examples at Inuit Art), but is confused with graphic design. Illustrator suggests an image to support text as opposed to a free-standing work of art. Sometimes the Inuit artists who primarily draw and whose work is made into prints are lumped in with printmakers but are not the same person making the print. Inuit drawings are a well-established subject of literature. Drawing artist is an easily understood compromise. Yuchitown ( talk) 17:13, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Yuchitown reply
  • Oppose merge - I find the term "Drawing artist" awkward, I've always used the gender neutral "Draftsperson", but some may think of that awkward as well. Nevertheless, it's an important category to retain because there are artists who work primarily in drawing media. As Yuchitown explains above, Graphic artist often gets confused with Graphic design; it is also confused with etching which a printmaking process. Any thoughts on Draftsperson? Netherzone ( talk) 18:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    I'm totally find with replacing "drawing artists" in the category names with "draftspeople." Yuchitown ( talk) 18:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Yuchitown reply
    I noticed that "Draftspeople" is used in this article: List of Indigenous artists of the Americas Netherzone ( talk) 23:10, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    As I say above, I don't see any need to go beyond plain "artist", especially as some carved etc, but if we must "graphic artist" is best - "draftspeople" will puzzle many readers. Johnbod ( talk) 02:05, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    As mentioned before, graphic artist gets confused with graphic designer. If we are going for understandable "drawing artist" is pretty clear. But the proposal to delete/merge was made 26 days ago, and yours was the only vote to "delete/merge." Yuchitown ( talk) 14:11, 9 May 2024 (UTC)Yuchitown reply
    Apart from the nom. And there are only 2 opposes. But your rationale makes very little sense. In fact you give no reasons for not deleting/merging, but go straight into renaming arguments.
    Johnbod, do you prefer "draftsmen" to "draftspeople"? I'm not opposed to the gendered term since it is in widespread use, but I do think draftspeople is more appropriate and inclusive. I agree with Yuchitown that "graphic artists" gets confused with graphic designers and the more commercial sense of the term rather than the fine arts. The term graphic artists is also used for printmakers. I'm also not opposed to leaving it as "drawing artists" since there is no ambiguity as to the meaning. Netherzone ( talk) 23:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    I'm firm that we should have any such categories - if Rembrandt, Guercino etc can do without them, I don't think we should start a whole new type of category for these guys. I repeat, "artists" is fine. "Drawing artists" is a made-up term we shouldn't use. Johnbod ( talk) 01:09, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    The equivalent categories for those artists do exist: Rembrandt is in Category:Dutch draughtsmen and Guercino could be added to Category:Italian draughtsmen. The Category:Draughtsmen category tree, with 10 subcategories by nationality, is the one for "drawing artists". "Draughtsmen" as a term has met with some disapproval – there have been attempts to rename it in 2020 and in 2024 – so renaming these categories to "First Nations draughtsmen", etc., would be presumably be a non-starter. I could accept "draftspeople" for these three categories if we do want to incorporate them into a category tree with other artists who draw (or who drew) – I'm not finding any usage of "drawing artist". Ham II ( talk) 07:25, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Category:Native American drawing artists has been around since 2011, and no one previously had a problem with it. Rembrandt, Guercino, etc. aren't Indigenous artists of the Americas so have a different art history with different access to supplies. Can this please close as no consensus? It's been a month. Yuchitown ( talk) 03:17, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Yuchitown reply

17th and 18th century in the Mughal Empire

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The result of the discussion was: merge. No opposition for a month. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:31, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
more categories nominated
Nominator's rationale: merge, mostly single-item categories, this is not helpful for navigation. Most content is categorized at decade level and that seems to suffice. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:40, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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I'll note Category:1754 establishments in the Mughal Empire and Category:1748 establishments in the Mughal Empire are untagged, and I don't have time to tag them right now. —  Qwerfjkl talk 17:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Neo-Latin writers

Nominator's rationale: WP:C2C: Per all child cats and per parent Category:Writers in Latin by period.
Copy of speedy discussion
The 5 speedy nominees were opposed by Jim Killock, see Copy of speedy discussion above. NLeeuw ( talk) 06:47, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • I do not follow the objection. If this is about style then the categories should be named Category:Writers in foo-style Latin and the larger part of the proposal follows that format. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:01, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    "Category:Writers of late antiquity in Latin" is extremely clunky; I have no opinion about the rest. Furius ( talk) 20:32, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    • True, for consistency this should become Category:Writers in late antique Latin Category:Writers in Late Latin. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:03, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
      So these are the style names: Old Latin; Classical Latin; Late Latin; Medieval Latin; Renaissance Latin; Neo-Latin.
      We have instead Category:Writers of late antiquity in Latin; Category:Renaissance writers in Latin; Category:Medieval writers in Latin. These remove or obscure the "styles" and make them in effect "period".
      The grammar objection is this. I write in Noun-Neo-Latin. I am a adjective-Neo-Latin noun-writer. I am not in Neo-Latin. Thus a writer is not "in" Neo-Latin. Thus writers cannot be "in" Neo-Latin. At least; it's not great English. I can imagine someone saying "A list of writers in English"; yet this isn't really correct, it should be a "A list of English writers", for the same reason (English here is an adjective, not a noun) (or "A list of writers writing in English", so that English can be used as a noun). see wiktionary:en:Latin#English regarding the noun and adjectival uses of Latin. Jim Killock (talk) 06:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
      Note that Category:Latin-language writers of late antiquity is a child of Category:Writers of late antiquity. " late antiquity" refers to the time they lived in, not (directly) what kind of Latin they wrote in. Alt renaming to something like Writers in late antique Latin would change the scope.
      I must say I find the category fairly dubious to begin with: it has only 6 articles (which could easily be diffused to "by century" categories), and the rest are just Xth-century writers in Latin‎ from the 3rd to the 8th, all of which are already children of Category:Writers in Latin by century. The added value of such arbitrary duplication eludes me. "Late antiquity" isn't a very commonly used term anyway; the conventional timeframes are "Antiquity" and "Middle Ages". If we can't agree on how to properly phrase the catname, maybe we should just delete or upmerge it instead.
      it should be a "A list of English writers" This is the kind of convention we have been phasing out for years, because adjectives such as "English" (or "Latin", for that matter) are ambiguous due to their multiple meanings (language, country, nationality, ethnicity, geography/location, "style" (e.g. English landscape garden, which you could surprisingly create anywhere on Earth outside England as well)), which almost inevitably leads to confusion and miscategorisation. "Latin-language writers of late antiquity" is hardly a prettier phrase than "writers in Latin", which at least makes clear that the writers wrote in Latin, and that they were not ethnically speaking one of the Latins, or from the Latin League, or from Latin America, or a songwriter of Latin music songs etc. etc. NLeeuw ( talk) 16:09, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
      I agree the categorisation is not done correctly overall. They conflate period and style. The category names are mostly unambiguiously about style. The socially predominate categorisation of Latin is by style, so that is what people will expect.
      I also agree with the principle of removing ambiguous phrases, I just don't agree with naming things with incorrect grammar. Writers are not in a noun-Language. People do something in a language; books and poems are written in a language. A different formulation is needed for "writers" to use the adjectival form avoiding "in". Jim Killock (talk) 16:16, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
      What about Category:Books in Latin? Is that also grammatically incorrect? If not, why not?
      I see both catnames as merely an abbreviation of a longer phrase.
      Books in Latin = Books that were written in Latin
      Writers in Latin = Writers who wrote in Latin
      Makes sense to me. (Also per WP:CONCISE, or whatever the category equivalent of that is). NLeeuw ( talk) 15:30, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
      "Books in Latin": it isn't incorrect, to my understanding, as a thing can be in a language. There may be an implied "is". Perhaps the omission of "is" feels natural in contractions ("the book is in Latin" vs "the writer is in Latin", doesn't work). Perhaps it is also because writers can change their language, so one can't say a writer is "in" a language. At some point one has to ask what "sounds" right; I feel it doesn't. Jim Killock (talk) 11:48, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It is always possible to read things differently than intended. "Neo-Latin writers" could be read, hypothetically, as writers who are Neo-Latin themselves. Likewise, reading "writers in Neo-Latin" as if the writers are in something themselves is equally bizarre. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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I think the issue is that contractions normally omit a part of the verb "to be" rather than some other verb. However "Neo-Latin writers" is clearer because NL is an adjective not a noun, so the phrase does not need a verb. Jim Killock (talk) 11:50, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Child amputees

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The result of the discussion was: Manually merge * Pppery * it has begun... 01:13, 24 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between kind of disability and age. Mason ( talk) 22:57, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
My response here is roughly the same as my response to congenital--
My understanding of the categorization rules ( /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Categorization) is that categories that are relevant are based on what criteria are considered defining. I believe that child amputee status (this is a person who has an amputation that occurs AFTER they are born but before they are an adult) is considered a meaningful category in the emic (i.e., members) of the limb difference community. E.g., https://www.oandplibrary.org/alp/chap31-01.asp, https://www.waramps.ca/ways-we-help/child-amputees/, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0030589820321490, https://www.independentliving.org/donet/51_international_child_amputee_network.html
This reflects the fact that the lived experience of those with child (as compared to adult amputation or congenital amputation) is often quite different (e.g., variation in phantom limb experience, the need to actively learn how to function without a limb from birth vs learning as an adult, the use of prosthetics vs not [prosthetics are less frequently used by those with congenital limb differences]). I am aware of this through my extensive involvement with the limb difference community. It can also be observed by a read of the discussions of amputees and those with limb differences (e.g., one of many examples here: https://www.reddit.com/r/amputee/comments/12nfcrl/adults_who_had_their_amputations_as_very_young/, https://www.reddit.com/r/amputee/comments/15j1kp2/looking_for_support_child_lost_a_finger/).
There is a precedence set for amputee categories based on the current categories presented ( /info/en/?search=Category:Amputees). Certainly child amputees is just as or probably notably recognized as per current Wikipedia guidelines (e.g., coming up in the introduction) than other categories (e.g., there is no page German amputees; "Works about Amputees" is certainly not a defining characteristic of much of the included media. This is not to say that these other categories should be removed, but rather, to show that child meets the required threshold of defining.
Another criteria for defining category is that it is in the lead to an article ( /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Defining). This is the case with many entries in this category, reflecting the fact that many members of this category are on Wikipedia because of their advocacy or involvement in activities related to their childhood amputation. Some examples:
/info/en/?search=Mihaela_Lulea
/info/en/?search=Joanne_O%27Riordan
/info/en/?search=Aimee_Mullins
/info/en/?search=Hisako_Nakamura
Etc.
I want to emphasize here the importance of not collapsing child and congenital into one category because of, again, the relevant community's differentiation in these two groups' experiences, as well as how medical research has coalesced on these differences (you will notice that child amputees are not included in the congenital amputee page, for instance). Note this follows Wikipedia's criteria of categorization in so far as categories should be as specific as possible: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Categorization_dos_and_don%27ts Calculatedfire ( talk) 23:48, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Comment. I understand that you have experiences with this community, however, we don't typically have categories that distinguish people by what stage of development they were disabled. I am extremely sympathetic, but the examples you give are people who are defined by the intersection of their activism while having a disability, not that they were amputees during their childhood. Please review other categories for children. Mason ( talk) 03:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
It may be worth reviewing the comments on the discussion for the congenital amputee conversation as they apply here too, e.g., regarding these distinctions not being "trivial" Calculatedfire ( talk) 00:25, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Manually merge, trivial intersection between type and starting age of disablement. People will need to get used to missing a limb irrespective of their age. Most articles are already in a Category:Amputees by nationality subcat so a plain merge will lead to a lot of duplication. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:58, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Congenital amputees

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Category:Wikipedian disc golfers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 14:28, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:USERCAT for utterly lacking collaborative value, compare Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/User/Archive/April_2008#Category:Wikipedians_who_play_golf
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Pppery ( talk • contribs) 01:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
That makes sense to me. I created it as I was creating the userbox and following the pattern of another sport's userbox. I didn't realize this as ancient history! WidgetKid ( talk) 21:11, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Writers of government reports

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 14:33, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining Mason ( talk) 13:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. The single article is about a politician, that is the defining characteristic. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:30, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:59, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Canadian imperialists

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 14:35, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non defining category, with a very large wall of text on the category page that effectively says as much Mason ( talk) 13:47, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete as a category per nom. Possibly the wall of text can be converted to an article, if properly sourced. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:33, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:German speculative fiction translators

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:06, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Duel upmerge for now. There's only one (or two) people in each of these categories which isn't helpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 13:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim personnel

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:06, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Merge per precedent. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 10:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I believe these are the last categories with the name "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim". Omnis Scientia ( talk) 10:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup qualification (CAF)

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:06, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This category's main focus is on the competition whose actual title is the proposed one and not made up. C2C or C2D aren't applicable here since one would look at the category page and see no focused main article. But I want full discussion on this. Intrisit ( talk) 08:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:American Splendor artists

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Category:Executed assassins of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Assassins of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. I will list at WP:CFDWM for follow-up. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:11, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Broaden the category name. Is there really a need to distinguish between assassins who were executed and those who were not? Mason ( talk) 05:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Georgetown College (Kentucky)

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Category:Indonesia Wikimedians

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Wikimedians and Category:Indonesian Internet celebrities. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 16:49, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: All other categories use "Indonesian". I would speedy rename but I can't figure out how to with Twinkle. 📊Panamitsu (talk) 02:02, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • The next level in the tree is Category:People related to the internet, I guess celebreties is fine then. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:10, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    • @ Panamitsu: How do you feel about a merge? (And while I am here, speedy renaming is one of the options in the drop-down menu where you select which XfD venue you want to use. Click "XfD" and it should be under Deletion discussion venue.) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
      Yes I support a merge. I see, thanks for the Twinkle tip! ― Panamitsu (talk) 04:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
      • Comment There have over time been some bizarre Indonesian category titles (spelling and grammar), and the lack of adequate scrutiny and effort to clarify into correct English is very prevalent. It is quite disturbing to see wikimedians in an internet celebrity tree, another very weird legacy that should have been cleaned up ages ago. I would prefer to see Indonesian Wikimedians any time. I neither support or not support the change, but simply wait to see more problematic category titles emerge into this forum... JarrahTree 07:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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April 29

Category:Rātana politicians

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Native American artists by gender

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The result of the discussion was: make non-diffusing with no consensus about whether it should continue to exist. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 23:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: If there are concerns that lead to categories such as Category:American male artists (and similar articles) being treated as non-diffusing, it seems that the same rationale should apply to Native American artists. (Apologies if I've made any formatting errors. This is my first time submitting a cfd.) Katya ( talk) 21:23, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Ok, then I modify to: Merge Category:Native American male artists to Category:Native American artists, per WP:OCEGRS unless there is indication that male Native American artists are a notable topic in themselves. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:05, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    So, it looks like there's been discussion in the past about whether or not there should be any "male artist" categories, without any consensus. In the absence of consensus to delete them, I think we should keep the Native American male artist categories, in keeping with other paired male / female artist categories elsewhere on the site. (Or we could revisit the issue of whether "male artist" categories should exist at all, but I think that's a separate issue. Again, my original question was just whether or not the categories should be non-diffusing.) Katya ( talk) 01:03, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Politicians of the Second Polish Republic

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:25, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The contents seem to be broader than political office-holders, so "from" will be more appropriate than "of". – Fayenatic London 11:45, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment, while "from" is the default, I think "of" is also a good possibility for politicians and for military personnel. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:57, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    • "Of" is fitting for political office-holders, but we don't use it for politicians generally. I suppose we have "opposition politicians of a country" who are appointed to a formal role, but e.g. revolutionaries or independence activists would be better described as "from" the country. – Fayenatic London 22:00, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support for consistency and given the broader scope of the category. Mason ( talk) 21:11, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Support per nom. NLeeuw ( talk) 05:37, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Politicians of the Korean Empire

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Political office-holders of the Korean Empire. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:19, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Either (A) purge and rename to political office-holders, removing some e.g. Syngman Rhee who was born under the Empire but IIUC not a politician until it ended; or (B) rename to Category:Politicians from the Korean Empire, because where there is no demonym we usually use "Politicians from" rather than "of" (see various siblings in Category:Politicians by former country). – Fayenatic London 15:16, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • At least purge, possibly rename, people who weren't a politician in the Korean Empire do not belong here. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:00, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Support purge and rename plan per provided reasoning. 104.232.119.107 ( talk) 12:28, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Politicians of the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan

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The result of the discussion was: rename and purge. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 23:29, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Purge and rename. E.g. Abdul Rashid Dostum was a military officer, not a politician, of the DRA (1978–1992). – Fayenatic London 15:30, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Muppet performers

Nominator's rationale: Performers by performance is textbook WP:PERFCAT. -- wooden superman 09:58, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
These actors are on contract with either Jim Henson Company or Disney (Muppet), Sesame Workshop (Sesame Street), or Jim Henson Company (Fraggle Rock), to perform numerous roles. Such contracts are incredibly rare, and even the most finite involvement with any of them, the puppeteer remains known as having been part of the troupe, akin to a college alumni category.
For reference, they also each play endless characters, so it's not really by performance.
I'd propose Category:Muppet Studios performers, Category:Sesame Workshop performers, and Category:Jim Henson Company performers. -- Zanimum ( talk) 23:04, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, especially the Muppet category. They're distinct performances/performers, categories and brands of puppeteering. Scanlan ( talk) 01:37, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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IIHF Ice Hockey Women's World Championships

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Category:IIHF World Women's U18 Championships

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:18, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Official tournament name as used by the IIHF. Maiō T. ( talk) 16:02, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Support. Spitzmauskc ( talk) 15:19, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Lists of films by year

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The result of the discussion was: split. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:30, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: A prior discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 11#Lists of films by country or language split the "Lists of YYYY films by country or language" subcategories that used to be here into separate country and language categories, which is fine and I'm not disputing that result -- but now this category is a bit confusing and difficult to navigate because of its mixture of two categories (one by country and one by language) per year for virtually every year after 1920. So now that by-country and by-language are two separate sets of categories rather than one set of merged ones, they should actually be split up to their own separate parent categories rather than being mixed together in the same place.
This can certainly still be kept as a parent for those two new subcategories, if desired, but the by-country and by-language categories really should be split up into separate subcategories. Bearcat ( talk) 14:45, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support Yes, the lists should be kept seperate I think.♦ Dr. Blofeld 05:04, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Any thoughts Ser Amantio di Nicolao? Bearcat's proposal makes sense I think. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 05:02, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Defunct National Basketball League of Canada teams

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Category:Quebec Kebs

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Punjabi people by occupation

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Category:Remote viewing

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The result of the discussion was: keep. No prejudice against nominating Category:Remote viewers for merging. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:27, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. This is a fringe subject with only three articles and one subcat, which has a tendentious name (there are no "remote viewers", remote viewing is nonsense). Creator is permabanned and globally locked. Guy ( help! - typo?) 21:32, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • If not deleted, it may be renamed to Category:Stargate Project, that is what the category and subcategory are primarily about. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Even that is a small category with no hope of expansion (because it doesn't exist any more). Guy ( help! - typo?) 15:56, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep but Upmerge Category:Remote viewers to Category:Remote viewing. Nom is correct that this is a fringe subject generally considered pseudoscience, and the claim that anyone is a "remote viewer" is WP:SUBJECTIVECAT / WP:OPINIONCAT. But I think we can put them in the parent category as people making claims about remote viewing, which at least has a main article. This seems to solve most issues pointed out by nom. I just think they nominated the wrong category to be changed. NLeeuw ( talk) 15:17, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep both as sufficiently well populated to be useful for navigation. People are normally categorised separately from topics, see WP:SEPARATE, and the remote viewers category has parents which look useful for navigation. Hella Hammid is not mentioned in the main article, but states that "Hammid was also a remote viewer who worked with Russell Targ and Harold E. Puthoff at SRI International doing work for the CIA" with five citations, so the involvement of these persons is sufficiently well documented. – Fayenatic London 10:02, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Communism in the Arab world

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Category:Continental Singers

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:18, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation to have a category that's with two pages (just the band and their discography) Mason ( talk) 03:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete per nomination. The discography page doesn't look like it would survive an AfD as is anyway, and I'm not even sure the main article would. Regardless, the main article doesn't look likely to spawn any more additional pages any time soon, so the category would be staying at two entries. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 04:02, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, the articles are already interlinked directly. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:07, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Housing rights organizations in Nashville

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated, and to Category:Housing in FOO as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:20, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one page in this category, which is uphelpful for navigation. If not merged, it should be renamed to Housing rights organizations based in Nashville, Tennessee Mason ( talk) 03:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Television in Cleveland

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Anyone interested can create subcategories. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:24, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 18#Category:Chicago television shows. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 03:52, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Not all content is about original programming. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose. Most of these categories have scopes that go beyond television programming. No objection to creating subcategories for programming, where appropriate. - Eureka Lott 05:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose renaming, but support creation of subcategories. The proposed categories could legitimately be created as subcategories of the "Television in" categories where there are enough programs to support one, but just doing a straight rename of the "Television in" categories isn't appropriate as they don't only contain original local programs — they also have subcategories for (and/or directly contain) television stations, and people, and television programs that were national Hollywood productions set or filmed in that place but not "original" local-channel programming per se. I'll grant that they're misfiled as subcategories of a "local television programming" tree, so that should be moved to subcategories if they get created, but these categories don't only contain original local programming. Bearcat ( talk) 14:53, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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April 28

Category:Ghais Guevara

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The result of the discussion was: delete. SD by me (creator). (non-admin closure) Coop ( talk) 07:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: One additional article besides the main article. No need for an eponymous category, too. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 23:09, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Speedy delete: Sorry, I am not familiar with the criteria for categories. I have tagged it for speedy deletion. Coop ( talk) 07:02, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, the two articles are already directly interlinked. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:American men centenarians

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn.. (non-admin closure) Omnis Scientia ( talk) 14:27, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge with parent categories for now. This is the only cross between nationality and gender for centenarians. I don't know how necessary it is but there is no such other category like it at the moment. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 23:08, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
(Category creator) Given how many entries each parent category current has (1,735 and 2,920, respectively), I don't think diffusing them hurts. I'm sure a lot more of these could be made for the same reason, they just haven't been yet. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 02:51, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment, one may wonder if centenarian is still a special thing, as we meanwhile have a large number of articles about supercentenarians too. Readers interested in the extreme age topic will find enough material in the supercentenarians tree. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:19, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Marcocapelle, I would say that people are definitely more likely to live to a 100 now than they were in the past but that its still rare enough to be a notable thing. Of course, that is only my opinion and probably a much bigger debate should be had on this matter.
    As for this particular one, the question is whether these categories should be diffused and more categories like Category:American men centenarians should be made. I can see that diffusion can make navigation easier. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 12:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Nationalists of African nations

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:46, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:POVFORKs of Category:Nationalists by nationality. The catnames assert the existence of said "nations", which is a controversial subject as a whole, and controversial in every single example ever asserted due to competing claims of various nationalists. All contents are found in the Category:Nationalists by nationality tree already anyway. NLeeuw ( talk) 22:36, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 03:27, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Nationalism in the Arab world

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:46, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT. Almost completely the same contents, except framing the Middle East in terms of the largest ethnolinguistic group, the Arabs. NLeeuw ( talk) 22:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 03:27, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Donor conceived people

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Bare assertions do not carry much weight. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:47, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. Although the cat is interesting, this category isn't a defining feature for anyone but the very first cases, which isn't the case for most of the folks ib here Mason ( talk) 22:11, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 23:09, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:British squatter leaders

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:47, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. each of these categories only has 1 person in it, which isn't helpful for navigation, especially considering how small the parent category is Mason ( talk) 21:59, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Murdered artists

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:47, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between occupation and specific cause of death. I've ensured that each member of the category is in an artists category and a murder victim category. Mason ( talk) 21:08, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Deaths from food poisoning

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Category:Iraqi Turkish poets

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The result of the discussion was: rename and split as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 23:55, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Language and ethnicity are different. The Kurdish category needs to be split. Mason ( talk) 17:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Iraqi Kurdistan is a thing though. An autonomous semi-independent region with its own citizenship, if not nationality. I think what you are proposing is a change of scope. Lots of inhabitants of Iraqi Kurdistan do not speak or write Kurdish. NLeeuw ( talk) 22:47, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I'm happy to add another split target. My impression was that these two categories were intended to be language categories based on them being in Iraqi poets by language. Mason ( talk) 03:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Iraqi Turkmen is also an ethnic group, but I agree with Mason that poets are better to be categorized by language that they are writing in. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:36, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Fair points. Taking a closer look, I see that Iraqi Kurdistan and Kurdistan Region are two separate articles, the latter the political one. Alright, Support per nom. NLeeuw ( talk) 05:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Ossetian male writers

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Category:Sámi textbook writers

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Sámi non-fiction writers and Category:Textbook writers; the argument surrounding OCEGRS has not been rebutted. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:30, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is not a defining intersection under WP:EGRS. The intersection of textbook writers and sami ethnicity isn't defining. (FYI: the existence of non-sami versions of the category is not sufficient.) Mason ( talk) 16:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
To be blunt, it is defining in a Sámi context and even on the enwp, even if it is not in your opinion. The category exists to differentiate Sámi non-fiction writers who are textbook writers from those Sámi non-fiction writers who are not textbook writers. Or seen from the other direction: Sámi non-fiction writers can write multiple different types of books, not just textbooks. - Yupik ( talk) 16:39, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
How is it defining under EGRS? I looked but did not find evidence that this was an established intersection in academic sources. Even if you were to argue that the category is helpful for diffusion, you still need to make the case that this is a defining category. Mason ( talk) 17:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Yupik Please review EGRS, saying something is defining in a sami context isn't particularly convincing, unless you can point to evidence. Mason ( talk) 17:04, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, unless any counter evidence is provided this is a straightforward application of the WP:OC guideline. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Poisoned Romans

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Category:Cultural depictions of Zanzibari people

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:29, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redudant category layer. There's only one category in here, Category:Cultural depictions of Freddie Mercury‎, which probably... isn't a defining feature of FM. Mason ( talk) 16:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:C+VG Hit award winners

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 23:57, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: A category for recipients of an awarded by a video game magazine. There are hundreds of magazines awarding their own awards. Not defining. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 15:22, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
See also this earlier discussion: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 27#Category:PlayStation Official Magazine – UK 10/10 recipients. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 15:25, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep. CVG is the oldest and longest running magazine in the world. Very well respected, and being a multi format magazine, it offers a unique perspective and way of comparing games across generations. The award was used as a selling point in videogames advertising. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.155.34 ( talk) 15:47, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, there isn't even an article about the award. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:24, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:National Football League first overall draft picks

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:34, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Matches the recently renamed article. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 15:16, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Pro-Khalistan militant outfits

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Pro-Khalistan rebel groups. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:28, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename, "militant outfits" is a phrase that I have never seen before in category names. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:29, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment This is a confusing tree. I'm not voting anything yet, I think we need to explore the options first. The main article appears to be Groups of Khalistan movement, which is also a grammatically incorrect title. I think the parent categories provide the best clues: these are Sikh rebel or terrorist groups which seek to establish an independent Khalistan or Sikh state in Punjab through armed violence. I think "organisations" is too generic. How about "Khalistan rebel groups", "Khalistan militant groups" or "Khalistan terrorist organisations"? The articles seem to say almost every single one of them, except Sikhs for Justice, has been designated a terrorist organisation by the government of India, and sometimes other states as well. But since "terrorist" can be POV, "rebel groups" is perhaps more neutral. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • "Rebel groups" is certainly more to the point than the too general "organizations" and this is an established category as well. So definitely an improvement. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:31, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Thanks. Any thoughts on "Khalistan" versus "pro-Khalistan"? This is the only cat in the tree to use "pro-"; it seems redundant, although not necessarily wrong. NLeeuw ( talk) 20:37, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Caribbean people of Arab descent

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The result of the discussion was: manual upmerge. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 23:20, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, very few articles and for the biographies it is not clear whether the subjects are really of ethnic Arab descent. They could be Druze, Copts, Assyrians, the articles just do not tell about it. A dual merge is not always needed, the biographies are already in Category:People of Syrian descent etc. and the topic articles are already in Category:Arab diaspora in the Caribbean. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:32, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • The latter is a fair point, it should be split between Asian and African. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:27, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    • @ Dimadick: are you okay with a manual upmerge (which would merge to the appropriate parent categories, be it Asian, North Africa, or something else entirely), or are you opposed to merging in general? House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:28, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
      • Yes, manual upmerge seems fine to me. Dimadick ( talk) 22:57, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:10th-century Chinese adoptees

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The result of the discussion was: single merge to the century categories. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:30, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge: Non defining intersection between century and adoption status Mason ( talk) 14:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Lean to delete single merge, these are articles about rulers who adopted their successor in this period, comparable to Roman emperors in another period. It has little to do with adoption in the modern period. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Shouldn't they still be merged to the relevant century cateogry? Mason ( talk) 01:04, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Anti-Zionism by former country

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:31, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:53, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Relisting comment: Previously closed as merge; relisted per request.
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  • With meanwhile two subcategories it is still a redundant category layer. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:31, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Support per nom. Mason ( talk) 16:11, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Red Smith Award recipients

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:28, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: per WP:OCAWARD. Information will not be lost; it has its own template and article with a list. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 13:44, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Roman Catholic bishops in Macau

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Category:Sámi educators

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Category:Assassinated Baloch journalists

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Assassinated Pakistani journalists. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:28, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge. There's no need to diffuse the intersection of ethnity, cause of death, nationality, and occupation. Mason ( talk) 12:42, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge per nom. While Dimadick is right, Marco's point about the articles being about Pakistan are correct too. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 23:50, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Abdi İpekçi

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:28, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:Shared name Mason ( talk) 12:40, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Murdered Cumhuriyet columnists

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Cumhuriyet people. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:28, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: 2x upmerge. I don't think we ought to diffuse murdered journalists by whether they worked for a specific journal. Mason ( talk) 12:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:North African-Jewish diaspora

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:33, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: North African Jews is a redirect to Maghrebi Jews. Egyptian Jews are already in the tree of Middle Eastern Jews. Aldij ( talk) 09:15, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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North Asia

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The result of the discussion was: redirect and delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:03, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete/redirect, the content in these categories is broader than North Asia which is not very helpful, e.g. about Russia as a whole, or the Soviet Union as a whole. Even the Japanese Empire is among its former countries. The only content that really belongs is about Siberia, which already has its own categories, except for Category:Exploration of Siberia. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all per nom. If you hadn't nominated them, I would have done it sooner or later. NLeeuw ( talk) 22:18, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Jewish anti-Zionism in the Arab world

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:27, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, the two categories have a largely overlapping scope. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:04, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:North African people of Jewish descent

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:27, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 13:47, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Antisemitism by region

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:27, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:31, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 12:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Turkish telenovelas

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The result of the discussion was: merge or delete, whichever term you fancy. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:27, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category. Telenovelas are basically the same as soap operas. The only difference between the two is length of series. Telenovelafan215 ( talk) 04:47, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Okay. Then I guess the category was emptied after this nomination. Liz Read! Talk! 16:59, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Sámi schoolteachers

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:53, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. there's only one person in this category which is unhelpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 03:30, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It's your duty to identify these articles and add them to the categories before you nominate such categories for deletion. You have been reminded to do so. Cheers. 42.200.57.53 ( talk) 04:58, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 27


April 26

Category:Virginia dynasty

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Category:Sikh terrorism in Austria

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 11:18, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge for now, currently the category has only one article, that is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:23, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Beringia

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 4#Category:Beringia

Category:Jewish communities destroyed in the Holocaust

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 5#Category:Jewish communities destroyed in the Holocaust

Natural history

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Category:Internet censorship in the Arab world

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The result of the discussion was: manual delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 11:50, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant WP:OVERLAPCAT / WP:ARBITRARYCAT. 4/6 items are just redirects which are all already in Category:Internet censorship by country, as is Internet censorship in Syria. That leaves only Internet censorship in the Arab Spring, which should probably be renamed "during" rather than "in", because it was an event, not a location. We could dual merge it to Category:Internet censorship in Africa and Category:Internet censorship in Asia. NLeeuw ( talk) 15:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Public baths in the Arab world

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Category:Arab military ranks

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 11:28, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT. Inappropriate intersection of Category:Military ranks by country (where almost all articles are already in), and Category:Arabic words and phrases (where all other articles are in, except Ispahsalar, which is in Category:Persian words and phrases because it's not even an Arabic word). NLeeuw ( talk) 14:52, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, a strange mix of military ranks by country and non-military Arab-language titles or offices. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Science and technology in the Arab world

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 11:32, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant WP:OVERLAPCAT. All children are already in siblings Category:Science and technology in Asia by country and Category:Science and technology in Africa by country. Category:Arab inventions is already a child of Category:Asian inventions and Category:African inventions, children of Category:Science and technology in Asia and Category:Science and technology in Africa, respectively. Arabic Wikipedia is not specific or exclusive to the so-called "Arab world"; anyone on Earth can access and edit it (and they do). NLeeuw ( talk) 14:37, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, trivial intersection, illustrated by a lack of of overarching articles. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:06, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Fictional West Asian people

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 4#Category:Fictional West Asian people

Category:Hindkowan diaspora

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Category:Hindkowan families

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 4#Category:Hindkowan families

Category:Sikh monarchs

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 4#Category:Sikh monarchs

Category:Massacres of indigenous North Americans

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 11:48, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:INDIGENOUS and MOS:RACECAPS Indigenous should be capitalized when referring to or describing people and their citizenship. ARose Wolf 12:08, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Canadians of Jordanian descent

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 11:49, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, as a duplicate. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I think it should be merged too daSupremo 11:20, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Speedy merge per C2C. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 08:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Sikh terrorism by continent

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 08:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, too few subcategories and articles in this category tree. Merging is not necessary, the subcategories are already in Category:Sikh terrorism by country. Only article 1985 Narita International Airport bombing needs to be moved to Category:Sikh terrorism manually. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:26, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Archetypal pedagogy

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 08:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, only the eponymous article and Clifford Mayes belong here, and these two are already directly interlinked. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Jungian pedagogues

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 08:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge. I don't think this category is clearly defined, and even if it were, I don't think that having only a single person in the category is helpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 00:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Dual merge per nom, but one of the targets may be deleted (see discussion above this one) and then it will become single merge. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:09, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Upmerge to Category:Psychology educators. The second target should be deleted per Marcocapelle. NLeeuw ( talk) 16:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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April 25

Category:Swedish emigrants to Japan

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Category:Swedish emigrants to Japan

Category:Fashion in India

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The result of the discussion was: rename as nominated for now, with no prejudice against a wider discussion for a rename in the other direction. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 04:41, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Categories out of phase with their siblings in Category:Fashion by country.
These were both speedy-moved from the target names to their current names two weeks ago on C2D grounds because the head articles are at "fashion in country" -- but that should never have happened without wider discussion, because C2D and C2C are in conflict with each other here: with the isolated exception of Georgia, which has an established consensus to diverge from normal standards because of the Georgia-as-in-Tbilisi vs. Georgia-as-in-Atlanta problem, every other sibling category is at "Demonym fashion" rather than "Fashion in Country".
But it's an important principle of category trees that they need to be as consistent as possible so that the location of a category is predictable, so these need to be named in the same format as their siblings. There may be a valid argument that they should all be moved to "Fashion in Country" across the board, so I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody is willing to tackle a comprehensive batch nomination, but there's no legitimate case to be made that these two countries alone should be pushed out of sync with their siblings. Bearcat ( talk) 16:02, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment As the nominator of the speedy renames above, I should say it was indeed my intention to move all categories to Category:Fashion in Fooland. This was a follow-up to a long-standing reorganisation effort of parent Category:Culture by country and siblings such as Category:Music by country by myself and others. The goal was to move away from ambiguous adjectives, and mention the country's name, as almost all main articles of those categories already did. So I set out to rearrange the Category:Fashion by country tree, starting with the United States and India, which already had main articles that could be speedied. However, I found that several sibling cats such as Category:German fashion had main articles with corresponding titles of Fooian fashion, like German fashion. I was considering whether to BOLDly rename those per WP:TITLECON, but I wasn't sure whether that would be enough, and then I sort of gave up, went on to do other stuff and forgot about it (sorry). I agree that the catnames should be consistent, but then the main article titles should be made consistent first in order to avoid an endless conflict between C2C and C2D. My preference would still be to rename all the main articles to Fashion in Fooland, after which the categories can follow. NLeeuw ( talk) 18:53, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comparison Most child categories of Category:Fashion by country do not have a main article, if they contain any articles at all (besides a few subcategories). Although most have Fooian fashion catnames right now, in Commons, all c:Category:Fashion by country subcategories are named Category:Fashion of Fooland. The main articles which are about fashion in/of/from a particular country are about evenly matched in frequency between Fooian fashion (mostly concentrated in European articles) and Fashion in Fooland (from countries around the world, especially Asia). I've allowed for some variation in names, e.g. Japanese street fashion and Genderless fashion in Japan; a great example of inconsistency within the same country category.
Fooian fashion main articles:
  1. Brazilian fashion
  2. Canadian fashion
  3. French fashion (but bold opening sentence "Fashion in France")
  4. German fashion
  5. Israeli fashion
  6. Italian fashion (but Fashion in Milan)
  7. Japanese street fashion
  8. Russian fashion
  9. Swedish fashion
Fashion in Fooland main articles:
  1. Fast fashion in China
  2. Popular fashion in ancient China
  3. Fashion in India
  4. Fashion in Iran
  5. Genderless fashion in Japan
  6. Fashion in Nigeria
  7. Fashion and clothing in the Philippines
  8. Fashion in South Korea
  9. Fashion in the United States (but Indigenous fashion of the Americas, and Native American fashion)
. ( Fashion in Barcelona, but doesn't really count for all of Spain)
This is illustrates the problem I ran into: I couldn't really invoke WP:TITLECON, because there was no clear majority naming convention. We would have to discuss it in either a very large discussion, or on a tedious case-by-case basis, neither of which seemed very appealing to me. NLeeuw ( talk) 19:28, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Rename for now per discussion above, without objection to a broader nomination in opposite direction. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:KCIC Line

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: One eponymous page. Gonnym ( talk) 08:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. The parent categories are not appropriate to add to the article. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:38, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Sikh terminology

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, this is a whole lot of entirely unrelated terms which have already been dispersed among other subcategories of Category:Sikhism. The only exceptions are Glossary of Sikhism, Patit and Sahajdhari which should be moved to Category:Sikhism. Many "terminology" categories have been deleted before. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:54, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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