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Category:Deaths from tabes dorsalis

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:01, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge. This category is for a specific way to die from syphilis. I don't think that the specific mechanism is defining Mason ( talk) 22:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Cartoonists by country templates

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 11#Category:Cartoonists by country templates

Category:Paintings of Hebrew Bible people by book

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary category layer. It had only one parent (the target category); I added Category:Books of the Hebrew Bible, but that doesn't really make this into a useful intersection. – Fayenatic London 20:39, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. In addition two of the subcategories may be upmerged too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Many books of the Hebrew Bible are remixings and recyclings of other books of the Hebrew Bible, and so we could get endless category duplicates for all the Hebrew Bible books that mention Moses, Joshua, Jacob etc. NLeeuw ( talk) 08:53, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Paintings of figures from the Deuteronomistic history

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:01, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category:Deuteronomistic history (see Deuteronomistic history) is not part of the standard division of Bible books in either Jewish or Christian tradition. – Fayenatic London 20:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Note: If not merged, this should be renamed using "people" rather than "figures" like its parent hierarchy. – Fayenatic London 20:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, trivial intersection between biblical art and historical critical scholarship. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per Marcocapelle. It is unwise to be intersecting critical scholarship and biblical art this way; most paintings were created before modern critical scholarship even existed. NLeeuw ( talk) 08:55, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, not so much a "trivial intersection" but an unfamiliar term to most, and a tree that is not too crowded anyway. Johnbod ( talk) 04:26, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Nudity in film

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The result of the discussion was: purge of every individual film. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is a purge proposal rather than a deletion proposal per se; there may be a case to be made that the ongoing monitoring needed to properly maintain this category is more trouble than it's worth, although that's not the argument I'm prepared to mount in the moment (though I wouldn't stand in the way of a consensus going in that direction either.)
The issue here is that the category's usage note states that it is for films that "pioneered nudity or were controversial due to nudity", but it has a bad habit of collecting random films that happen to have nude scenes in them without stating or sourcing anything whatsoever about the nude scenes being either "pioneering" or "controversial" -- on a random spotcheck of about ten or so articles here, only one contained any content whatsoever to support any kind of controversy, and the majority failed to even contain the words "nude" or "nudity" at all apart from the presence of this category.
It's certainly possible that some of the films I didn't check were genuinely pioneering or controversial (I didn't, frex, spotcheck anything with "naked" or "nude" in its title, since I was looking for questionable entries rather than obviously includable ones), but not everything in this category actually fits that criterion -- so it needs to be either purged of any entries that aren't sourceably pioneering or controversial, or simply deleted as more trouble to maintain than it's worth. A category indiscriminately listing all films that ever had nude scenes in them at all is certainly not something we would need, but that's exactly what this is in danger of becoming if we're not sufficiently on the ball about keeping it clean. Bearcat ( talk) 20:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:McCarthyists

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:34, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Direct overlap between this category and the anti-communist category. User:Namiba 19:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Weak oppose I think McCarthyists represent a specific era of American anti-communism, namely the late 1940s through the 1950s, as the main article McCarthyism says. It's also a more specific style of anti-Communism, connected with American patriotism and replete with conspiracy theories that turned out to be false. Plenty of American anti-communists of the time had different reasons for opposing communism than the rather fringe ideas of a demagogue and conspiracist like McCarthy. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:11, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Looking at the articles in this category, few of them make any mention of McCarthyism and are not defined by it. McCarthyism is a catch-all term for anti-communism during the aforementioned period. Outside of Joseph McCarthy and a few others, anti-communist is a better descriptor according to sources.-- User:Namiba 11:32, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Fair enough. Changed my !vote to Weak oppose. Still not excited, but it might be okay. NLeeuw ( talk) 22:20, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete or merge, looking at the articles, many aren't defined by either anti-communism or McCarthyism, so deletion is also a good option. Otherwise merge, people living in the same time and having similar opinions as one senator is a kind of WP:OCASSOC. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:54, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Swedish emigrants to Japan

Nominator's rationale: Dual speedy upmerge for now. These categories were deleted due to only having one person it in (and is still the case), which wasn't helpful for navigation. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_May_11#More_emigrants Mason ( talk) 11:42, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Queen of ♡ | speak 18:05, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:54, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Category:Battles involving Bengal

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 13#Category:Battles involving Bengal

Fooian American billionaires

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The result of the discussion was: merge all. (non-admin closure) Toadette Edit! 01:42, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Follow-up discussion to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 24#Category:Asian American billionaires. WP:OCEGRS; upmerge all to Category:American billionaires. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support all per my comments at previous discussion. Chubbles ( talk) 22:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support all the ones listed here. (a.k.a. all of them except African Americans) also per my prior comment. Mason ( talk) 22:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 02:32, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:17, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Ethnic groups in Europe by language family

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 18:59, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Geography is WP:NONDEFINING for language families. Each of these "ethnic groups" (if we can even call them that) has "members" living on every single continent on Earth, and there is no reason to categorise them by continent. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. It is a strange category tree anyway, it is more like ethnic groups named after their language family, or maybe just ethnolinguistic groups. Marcocapelle ( talk) 02:38, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:United States National Recording Registry albums

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 11#Category:United States National Recording Registry albums

Category:Sikh terrorism by country

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 18:59, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only three (and probably soon only two) subcategories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Battles by location

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 10:49, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Recently created (12 March 2024) trivial intersection between military history and modern geography. We categorise Category:Battles by "country" (i.e. "battles involving country X"), "period", "type" (naval, aerial etc.), and "war", but not location or geography. We should follow precedent and delete any battles category based on location/geography as a WP:NONDEFINING WP:TRIVIAL WP:CROSSCAT.
Follow-up to:
Procedural note: I think it is important to confirm the precedents first, namely that battles should not be categorised by location/geography. But if it is desired that all subcategories be included in this nomination rather than nominated in a follow-up, I will tag them as well. But I expect that they will need a customised case-by-case approach with mergers and renamings, as happened with the Flanders/Wallonia, Drenthe, and Netherlands by province precedents. It would be wise to do so according to the Manescheut principle: Merging to the History of (modern territory) category (Ane), or Merging to the historically applicable territory (Scheut). E.g. Category:Battles in the Azores could be upmerged to Category:History of the Azores (Ane), merged to Category:History of the Portuguese Empire (Scheut), or perhaps renamed to Category:Military history of the Azores; it doesn't necessarily need to be deleted, but the current situation is untenable.
Therefore, to prevent a WP:TRAINWRECK, I'm only nominating the recently created two new categories for deletion, and to purge the subcategories that are in the battle by country (involved) and battle by type (battlespace) trees. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:10, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • The nomination deserves sympathy, but the proposal is deletion of the parent categories while the subcategories are the bigger issue. By deleting the parents we will merely loose sight of the subcategories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Marcocapelle Granted. Then maybe I should start by the roots of the tree first? Alternately, I could simply copypaste the contents of the category here for reference while we clean the tree up, so that we don't lose sight of it.
    Incidentally, it does have a main article: List of battles by geographic location. A December 2022 AfD, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of battles by geographic location, decided to keep but split the article by country. Some efforts have been made to do that, but it is far from completed. The argument that the location of a battle may be WP:NONDEFINING or WP:TRIVIAL, or in the words of the nom Second, it is organized by current country, even if the battle took place before the country existed and who in the world is going to look for the Battle of Megiddo (15th century BC) in the Israel section?, did not receive broad support in favour of deletion by the other participants, who seemed only concerned with navigability. Moreover, nobody seemed concerned that the entire list is WP:UNSOURCED.
    This does worry me a little. If the mainspace does not object to putting battles in lists by geographic location, does the category space have a good reason to object to it and delete such categories anyway? NLeeuw ( talk) 14:02, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    PS: List of battles in Belgium was even deleted on 18 March 2024, shortly after it was split off from the List of battles by geographic location, because it had no sources. The same could happen to all lists of battles by country that have been split off or will be split off in the future. I'm not sure how we should proceed. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    • Starting by the roots of the tree first would have my preference, copypasting the contents of the category here for reference while we clean the tree up would be my second choice. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
      @ Marcocapelle I've withdrawn the nomination for now (see below), and began working on the roots of the tree. I also just found WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN as a good guideline to invoke in phasing out battles by location categories. NLeeuw ( talk) 10:13, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Withdraw nomination for now as nom. We will start by the roots of this category tree first and work our way to the top. I've WP:BOLDly purged the two subcategories already for this purpose. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:25, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Pocatello Army Air Base Bombardiers football seasons

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 13#Category:Pocatello Army Air Base Bombardiers football seasons

Film controversies in India

Nominator's rationale: See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Subcategories of Category:Film controversies by country: this one also has a subcategory which needs purging, so I have elected to nominate it separately to avoid a WP:TRAINWRECK. Purge of all articles about films, leaving only the articles about controversies themselves. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Purge all articles about a particular film, but keep subcategories and articles about controversies, per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 02:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Purge per nom. NLeeuw ( talk) 08:03, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Category:Film controversies in South Africa

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Toadette Edit! 01:47, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Subcategories of Category:Film controversies by country: I don't see a future for this category in its current state. Most of the articles in this category are controversial films, not articles about film controversies. What stopped me from including it in the mass nomination is Films and Publications Act, 1996, which seems does not seem to belong here, either. Even if we grant that it does belong here, after purging the articles about films this would be a single-member category. Delete this category; discussion of the categorization of Films and Publications Act, 1996 can take place at Talk:Films and Publications Act, 1996 House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Film controversies in Malaysia

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Toadette Edit! 01:48, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Subcategories of Category:Film controversies by country: I don't see a future for this category in its current state. Most of the articles in this category are controversial films, not articles about film controversies. What stopped me from including it in the mass nomination is 1Malaysia Development Berhad scandal, which seems does not seem to belong here, either. Even if we grant that it does belong here, after purging the articles about films this would be a single-member category. Delete this category; discussion of the categorization of 1Malaysia Development Berhad scandal can take place at Talk:1Malaysia Development Berhad scandal. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Subcategories of Category:Film controversies by country

Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 23#Category:Film controversies in Spain, in which it was decided to nominate the entire tree of Category:Film controversies by country. I would in theory say we should purge the categories of articles about films themselves – leaving only articles about controversies themselves. However, doing that would leave most of these categories empty. Therefore, I have nominated those categories for deletion, with no prejudice against recreating any of these categories if they can be appropriately populated. The ones which do contain articles about film controversies themselves (e.g. Category:Film controversies in Canada contains Natural Born Killers copycat crimes) I have nominated for purging. If, after purging, any category is too small to be useful we can have a discussion about upmerging that category.

I have not nominated Category:Film controversies by country for anything in particular, but I will tag it so it can be discussed here. I personally would advocate for that it be kept, even though most of its contents will no longer exist.

There are also three categories ( Category:Film controversies in South Africa, Category:Film controversies in India, and Category:Film controversies in Malaysia) which have considerations specific to that category; I will start separate discussions on those to avoid a WP:TRAINWRECK. Also pinging participants in Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 23#Category:Film controversies in Spain: Marcocapelle, Bearcat, Qwerfjkl, and Nederlandse Leeuw. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Support per nom and my own rationale in the previous discussion. To summarise: It should not be sufficient to only have a "controversy/controversies" section in an article about the film itself; although it may help establish notability, it is usually WP:NONDEFINING. Nor is it appropriate to label an entire film as "controversial" per WP:SUBJECTIVECAT, and Category:Controversial films has been repeatedly deleted for that reason. And yet, almost the entire tree of Category:Film controversies by country is currently populated with main articles about the films themselves, rather than stand-alone spin-off articles about the controversies they caused. I think that is very inappropriate categorisation practice. I happened to come across it first with the Spain subcategory, but as this is not a Spain-only issue, at the request of fellow editors, I have withdrawn the nomination in favour of a broad discussion about the entire tree. I thank HouseBlaster for preparing this follow-up. NLeeuw ( talk) 02:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support i.e. purge all articles about a particular film, but keep subcategories and articles about controversies, per nom. And delete the category if it becomes empty after the purge. Marcocapelle ( talk) 02:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support purging and deleting subsequently empty categories. The same purging appears needed at the parent Category:Film controversies with the rationale Nederlandse Leeuw provides. CMD ( talk) 07:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Rename them like this Category:Bangladeshi films involved in controversies. Mehedi Abedin 11:14, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    That's just Category:Controversial films under another name. It remains a WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:34, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply


Category:Spam filtering

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 19:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: These seem to be the same topic - many pages are in both. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. There could be a set category for spam filters but that can be created after this merge. Marcocapelle ( talk) 02:44, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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