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I PRODed this in August but one user, who I presume is from the company perhaps, contested saying "Downloaded 10,000 times a month", but searches once again found nothing of genuine substance and Wikipedia is not a software listing as our policy WP:NOT states, so there's no automatic inheritance for an article.
SwisterTwistertalk23:56, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment, noticed this at
WP:REFUND, and tried to search for
WP:RS that mentioned this open source project. Unfortunately, there are a lot of
race-dirtbike-related websites that use javascript, so (enduro AND javascript) types of searches produce 7m false-positive hits. Searching with the creator's name produces seven hits, by contrast, but for an open source project typically the creator's name is not always mentioned in "product" reviews. So what I will say, for anybody that knows something about Enduro.js and the creators/developers, please listen, what wikipedia requires is simple. To help stop the
Enduro.js article from being deleted, please provide a list of URLs, pointing to detailed in-depth factual articles specifically talking about Enduro.js for multiple paragraphs, which are published in well-known newspapers / book-publishers / scientific journals / deadtree technology magazines / television newscasts. Which means not the endurojs.com website, not slant.co in Colombia, not facebook, not youtube, not blogs, not wordpress, not github, not alexa, not download counts, not client testimonials, not logical arguments from first principles. The only thing that matters is *coverage* in respected fact-checking reliable publications, which means newspapers/books/academia/magazines/newsmedia, and it has to be *detailed* coverage specifically *about* Enduro.js and/or the creator, as much as possible. See
WP:GOLDENRULE for what I'm talking about here, that is the only thing that will help. If the project is too new to have received such coverage in the media and academia, then it is
WP:TOOSOON for the wikipedia article on
Enduro.js to be written, and it can be moved to
Draft:Enduro.js until such coverage (detailed in-depth by well-known highly-respected reliable publishers) has been achieved. Hope this clarifies
47.222.203.135 (
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15:11, 27 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete - Fails
WP:NSOFTWARE,
WP:GNG and
WP:NOT applies. Article initially deleted 16 August 2016 per Expired PROD, "concern was: Nothing at all actually suggestive of substance for its convincing notability, searches noticeably found nothing." Article was "Restored" five months later on 26 January 2017. Article has the same problems as before. Article doesn't seem to establish notability. Article lacks independent reliable sources. Number of downloads is not a criteria for notability. Strong COI issue- article creator appears to be the developer of product. See:
"Gottwik/GottwikWiki".
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Keep and update/
copy edit. A valid and functional list article per
WP:NOTDUP and
WP:LISTPURP, with content that is easily verified. I have added a {{refimprove}} template atop the article and have added some sources to better verify content. Also, I removed the
Agdam ghost town entry, which took about two seconds to accomplish. North America100022:55, 27 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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Lack of reliable sources aside from several Phoenix New Time articles. Rest are fansites, voice actors personal websites, or blogs.
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23:21, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Weak delete - While I could find several sources, most are local in nature, and the rest are promotional material or sites of questional reliability. No prejudice against recreation if future iterations receive more coverage.
Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew04:58, 27 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Weak develop, maybe This con seems to get regular coverage by Phoenix New Times, which is good, but not nationally, other than that it gets mentioned by ANN that it is happening. It doesn't appear that ANN is sending any reporters there to summarize events. It's only after having to dig around that it has recently (like 2016 and 2017) attracted some of the big seiyuus from Japan such as
Yuu Asakawa,
Kappei Yamaguchi,
Yuko Sanpei and
Akemi Kanda; attendance is about 1500 increasing to 3200. However, I wouldn't keep this if most of the anime industry doesn't really care about using this convention for promoting anything. I only see one person from Viz Media who regularly attends, and have no idea who the other sponsors are.
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Delete with an optional limited merge of anything that can be properly referenced to the main RHI article. This subject can be mentioned but it does not justify an article of its own. --
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Merge / Redirect to
Roller Hockey International Our nominator seems to be back on the warpath, looking to destroy encyclopedic material and failing to consider the obligations imposed by
WP:BEFORE. A merge is a blindingly obvious solution to address whatever shred of legitimate concerns have been raised here.
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Merge / Redirect to
Roller Hockey International Our nominator seems to be back on the warpath, looking to destroy encyclopedic material and failing to consider the obligations imposed by
WP:BEFORE. A merge is a blindingly obvious solution to address whatever shred of legitimate concerns have been raised here.
Alansohn (
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01:41, 27 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Unreferenced material is very questionably encyclopaedic. Of course, if it can be reliably referenced, and it is just that the original author didn't bother, then we can merge as much as is relevant and which the sources support but if what the sources support is next to nothing then we don't want to just move unreferenced, unencyclopaedic cruft from one article to another. --
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Speedy Delete. In the previous nomination the consensus was to delete and this article may be to be similar to the deleted article (has no reliable sources and is advertising ) and should be speedy deleted under
CSD:G4 -KAP03(Talk • Contributions)
00:50, 27 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep A question of notability and weather there is a place for this subject on Wikipedia may not have a lot of sense in this particular situation, as this article existed on Wikipedia and was linked-to for at least a year, until the moment when it was filled with promotional content, which basically triggered the first deletion nomination. In my submission I was looking to make it even more neutral than it was originally when it was approved by editors. I tried to avoid mentioning notable facts in the social and financial sphere of the subject and only referred to bare numbers and key points, in order not to make it sound as any sort of advertisement, as there is a fine line in determining whether such facts are used in promotional context or function as illustration of notability in the category of business subjects like this. Basically most references of articles about business, enterprises or corporations on Wikipedia may be interpreted as a result of their promotion campaigns even when they're subtle and claim to be notable. While I agree with you that Wikipedia is not a platform for promotions and business listing and not trying to question it in any way, one other fact that influenced my decision to give a try on recreating this article is that CARiD page used to be mentioned and linked-to by other notable articles within the automotive category of Wikipedia itself, such as
Automotive aftermarket; plus there is also an appropriate category that directly corresponds with the subject
Category:Automotive part retailers of the United States, which serves as interlinking of these pages and potentially improves the Wikipedia knowledge base.
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Comment. Lists, categories, and templates all serve different purposes, which is why we can have all three of them on a similar topic. However, exactly because they serve different goals, they also look different. A category is a bare list of wikilinked articles. A template helps in navigation. A list however, should be different. Yes, we have many
lists of members of learned societies. Just click on a random one in that category and compare it to this list. Those lists give some more information than a bare list of names, which is at it should be for lists. The list under discussion here is a bare list of names, most not even wikilinked. As
WP:NOTDUP (like
WP:CLN a guideline, BTW, not policy) states: "lists may include features not available to categories". This is not that. I also note that the vast majority entries in this list are not sourced to anything. In short, I argue that
WP:TNT applies here. --
Randykitty (
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08:58, 27 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep. I'm also quite baffled by this nomination. The topic meets
WP:LISTN and
WP:CLN. If it's missing extra context and referencing, the obvious solution would seem to be to add that information, rather than delete the article.
WP:TNTTNT applies... –
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Delete. DeBary is not a large or prominent enough city to hand its mayors an automatic presumption of notability just for existing — but the sourcing here, which consists of his own
LinkedIn profile and a few pieces of purely
WP:ROUTINE local coverage of the type that all mayors always get in their local media, is not good enough to make him more notable than the norm.
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The article claims a lot of things why one should think this company to be notable but I cannot find any reliable sources discussing the subject. Fails
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Doesn't appear to meet the notability requirements,
WP:N,
WP:GNG,
WP:BIO. No applicable coverage. The author added a couple of sources and removed a PROD tag, but one is a link to IMDb and the other is to his company's website, neither of which helps to demonstrate notability.
Largoplazo (
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18:35, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete - not notable at all. IMDB is not a reliable source. My searches online didn't yield anything to establish notability either.
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An AFD on this article closed last week as: "Move to Evil corporations in fiction". An editor previously active on the page then pared it down, and returned it to this title. As far as I can see, the idea that the "evil corporation" is used in fiction, particularly in film and comic books, can be supported, the article and title now present "evil corporation" as an actual type. Sources fail to support this, and phrase fails to meet
WP:NEO when used in this sense. — Preceding
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E.M.Gregory (
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Keep as a notable topic as evidenced by the sources. The claim "Sources fail to support this" is false. The term is a trope, as the sources state, and it has been used in regard to fictional and real-life corporations. This does not mean it would be appropriate to have a "list of evil corporations" for real-world corporations, but background is given to the term, and uses of the term are shown. Editor
E.M.Gregory has recently engaged in rapid passerby tagging, such as at
hipster sexism, claiming lack of notability despite no real time devoted to researching each topic. This particular follow-up on my own contributions to this article is similarly knee-jerk. This is a poor nomination, putting forth that "evil corporation" should be deleted in its entirety from Wikipedia, rather than proposing a renaming or a merging.
Erik (
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I did consider proposing a merge, but in light of the fact that Erik reverted the title against the consensus at AFD, I thought that this would be more appropriate.
This was the nominator's response to me, for a comment that I had tried to speedily remove rather than strike through. Basically, I misunderstood the issue and was hasty. My bad.
Shawn in Montreal (
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18:59, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Sorry, my mistake: Erik, if you're unhappy about this Afd, then you might consider your actions in unilaterally reversing the merge move that was the consensus decision at the last Afd. I'm alerting @
Xymmax:.
Shawn in Montreal (
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18:45, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
I think Shawn misspoke. How do you think the topic should be covered on Wikipedia? You expressed concern about the term being applied to real-life corporations. As I said above, I would oppose a so-called "list of evil corporations", but I mentioned where the label had been applied. For example, the Monsanto inclusion is based on The New Yorker, and it specifically states who thinks that way, rather than saying something inappropriate like, "Monsanto is considered an evil corporation."
Erik (
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ping me)19:02, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Shawn in Montreal, the AfD closed with the consensus to keep. Renaming was considered acceptable on top of that. I actually created a thread on the talk page explaining my changes (expanding the scope beyond just "in fiction") and pinged all editors involved with that AfD. Fixuture thanked me for this, so I assume at least that editor was fine with the change. The other editors have not said anything about it.
Erik (
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Yes, both because I expanded the scope of the article, and even if I did not, the renaming violated conciseness under
WP:CRITERIA. Assuming that there was only coverage about the fictional aspect, it should stay named "evil corporation" and be clear in the article body that it is about the fictional aspect. Adding "in fiction" was an unnecessary matter of distinguishing because there is nothing to distinguish it from, as opposed to something like "2017" vs. "2017 in film".
Erik (
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I see. And I did indeed misspeak. Sorry again for the confusion. I am quite literally on painkillers today, and I think I'm a little foggy! I certainly am of the general opinion that the concept "evil corporation" need not be just a fictional element. As for the relationship between the last Afd and suggestions of 'possible wikihounding' -- made on the article talk page -- I'm not going to look into, or comment.
Shawn in Montreal (
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19:15, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
I also believe that a content dispute has led us back to Afd again, for the wrong reasons. The nominator believes that with the fictional element gutted, this is no longer a sufficiently notable topic. And I do think
this edit seems excessive to me. Adding content about real world perceptions about bad corporations didn't require purging the article of these fictional examples, it seems to me.
Shawn in Montreal (
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19:29, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Yes, I do not think we should be back at AfD either. However, I do not think the nom made their decision based on the fictional element being gutted; they have targeted articles about neologisms in general and found this new target. As for the purging itself, I was actually considering redoing the list but requiring sources. The vast majority of the previous list was unsourced. I can start working on that, but I don't think the presence of the list means the renaming was warranted, both due to the expanded scope and the lack of conciseness in the titling.
Erik (
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ping me)19:53, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Yeah, tricky. Closeapple rightfully doesn't want an "opinion article about real-life institutions" but there's gotta be a way to address notable real-life as well as fictional applications... anyway, disagree with deletion. I do think Afd is really the
WP:WRONGFORUM for this especially as it was just kept and editors are clearly willing to work on this to improve it -- albeit with conflicting agendas.
Shawn in Montreal (
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20:37, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Yes, and there is no such corporation named "Evil corporation" and the term/phrase "Evil Corporation" is a neologism and is used as a tag/description/label of a company/corporation. There is merit in this article but not with this title which is misleading and is in danger of running foul of
WP:NOTDICT.
-- HighKing++ 14:30, 29 January 2017 (UTC)reply
We are not supposed to have articles on neologisms if they have little or no use in reliable sources. Here there are many sources that use this term. And regarding article titles,
WP:PRECISION states, "Usually, titles should be precise enough to unambiguously define the topical scope of the article, but no more precise than that." The article title as it is not "misleading" -- it is not anything at all. We do not need to add on clarifying language or disambiguation terms to the title itself. To use an example, we don't take
golden parachute and modify it further to make it clear it is a business term. Here we would use the article body to state what "evil corporation" means.
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Non-notable CRM software. SPA-created product promotion with no independent sources. Google search turned up empty (aside from mentions and listings by resellers and other partner companies).
GermanJoe (
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18:10, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
It might be one of the many "make work" projects sponsored by the European Union. Hard to tell since the only sources I see are in Italian, which I do not speak. There is a North American bias in the English Wikipedia, so would be nice to include more coverage. However, this article is clearly not worth saving, and as above, there do not seem independent sources yet for notability evidence. So delete alas.
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This was created by then topic banned, now site banned editor
User:Brews ohare in violation of his topic ban, as he worked his way towards earning his site ban.
In as much as there’s any content it’s a fork of
Determinism which covers the physics of determinism well and in context: see
Determinism#Modern scientific perspective. This adds nothing, just a collection of anecdotes culled from google searches, written by someone who understands little of the relevant physics or philosophy. No-one has taken it up since, no point userfying as the editor is blocked.
JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds18:15, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete I thought initially that there would be something worth saving there, but after reviewing both article, I have to agree this is an unnecessary/redundant
WP:FORK of
determinism. No objection on redirecting however, since this is a likely search term.Headbomb {
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physics /
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Doesn't meet
WP:PROF. The author de-prodded the article with the comment "The text book is an extensive academic piece of work and had been used as reference book at several higher education institutes." This is true, although the two libraries where I've found Mazumder's Principles of Electronic Circuits are places where he taught, University of Liberal Arts Bangladesh and Daffodil International University, so I'm not especially impressed. It is common for a professor to use their own textbook, so that could explain its presence, or his colleagues may have thought it politic for the library to hold copies.
In any case, the example in the guideline is "has authored several books that are widely used as textbooks ... at multiple institutions of higher education" (emphasis mine). According to the article he has written two textbooks. Only evidence about the use of one book has been shown (in addition to the two libraries above, it is used as a textbook at University of Chittagong.
[14]). One book used at a handful of universities does not seem to me to be "a significant impact ... affecting a substantial number of academic institutions."
Searches of the usual types found no independent reliable sources deeper than a directory listing or passing mention ("addressed the function", "present in the seminar"). As much as I would like to see more articles on academics, this does not make the cut.
Worldbruce (
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18:07, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
There have been changes made in the article in terms of references. Prof Mazumder's strong affiliation to professional bodies like- Bangladesh Electronics Society, his contribution as a JSPS fellow has been added up. Which fulfills the notability criteria set by
WP:PROF, since it states "The person is or has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association or a fellow of a major scholarly society which reserves fellow status as a highly selective honor." — Preceding
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05:20, 27 January 2017 (UTC)reply
It seems that those positions are research fellowships which are not the same thing as, for instance, being named a Fellow of the Royal Society. Also please sign your comments by typing ~~~~.
JbhTalk16:09, 27 January 2017 (UTC)reply
As Jbhunley says, the JSPS fellowship was a temporary research position. Being a Bangladesh Electronics Society (BES) fellow may be worth another look. BES has been around 25 years, has about 300 ordinary members, and 40 fellows. I couldn't find any information about how one becomes a fellow. Two other fellows (
Saiful Islam (academic) and
M. Rezwan Khan) are notable, although not because of BES - their articles don't even mention it. Pinging
DGG for his opinion because he seems to have his finger on the pulse of which societies are highly selective/prestigious/major. --
Worldbruce (
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01:50, 31 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete Fails
WP:NPROF and
WP:GNG. I was going to AfD this when I saw it come up again yesterday. The article promotional in tone and the sources are either by him or trivial. It is also a "one-edit-wonder" so I suspect we are dealing with undisclosed paid editing here as well.
JbhTalk16:06, 27 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete. Fails
WP:PROF. The fellowship is not an honorary membership carrying international prestige, as is the case for fellows of the IEEE, but just a visiting postdoctoral position. The textbooks are in widespread use, and there is nothing else remotely substantial. DGG (
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@
Yvarta: In a case like this do not hesitate with restoring the version prior to removal of the Afd template and give an edit summary like Restoring last revision with {{[[Template:Article for deletion|Article for deletion]]}} per [[WP:EDITATAFD]] and issue the proper level {{Uw-afd}} on the user's talk page. If there are intermediate edits, try with Undo instead. Otherwise restore it manually. Done now. — SamSailor19:40, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment - Internet is slow or I would do a more complete search, but based on what I've found in perhaps 100 google hits, I'm leaning towards keep, based on coverage of his various mayoral activities.
[15],
[16],
[17],
[18]. So he might just yet pass the second number of
WP:POLITICIAN, although not the first of course.
Yvarta (
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18:54, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete mayor of a very small city, a status that does not confer notability. He lost a race to become the Democratic Party candidate for a congressional seat, but entering a party (primary, caucus - not sure which) does not confer notability. I just scanned the first page of a news archive search, and all that I find is local coverage of these political activities which looks routine.
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20:11, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete. DeBary is not a large or prominent enough city to hand its mayors an automatic presumption of notability just for existing — but the sourcing here, which consists of two pieces of purely
WP:ROUTINE local campaign coverage of the type that all mayors and mayoral candidates always get in their local media, is not good enough to make him more notable than the norm.
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Delete, being mayor of a small city does not confer automatic notability. No sources demonstrate notability from causes other than mayoral office.
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20:03, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete. Orange City is not a large or prominent enough city to hand its mayors an automatic presumption of notability just for existing — but the sourcing here, which consists of one piece of purely
WP:ROUTINE local election coverage of the type that all mayors and mayoral candidates always get in their local media and one raw table of election results, is not good enough to make him more notable than the norm.
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Strong Keep Is this a joke? He has a serious decade plus underground career, has been featured on dozens of albums (I know, notability not inherited), the article has dozens of references, he was co-owner of a prominent club and concert venue. A simple Google News search finds mainstream media references to him,
such as USAToday. There's no reason for the article to be deleted. This seems like some sort of a vendetta or based on some other pretext. I've never heard of an article with 25 references (that aren't blogs, IMDb, fansites, self/first-party, etc) be nommed for non-notability.
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An eight sentence-long song review in USAToday does not establish notability. I was only able to locate than two vacuous-sounding secondary sources with biographical content. If other editors can locate more I will withdraw this nomination.
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Delete - I did a relatively fast google search for anything useful, and agree with Largoplazo. Not enough to pass GNG. I did look for some sort of journalism award, but came up short. Part of the issue might be that his authored articles come up first in google, and it is hard to hone search words to instead just find sources written about Adwent by others.
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"Keep" - The page has been updated to include various references about the society and information about its background at Cambridge University, all records are available at the proctors office in Cambridge University and the University Library.
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14:12, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
"Keep" - Thank you for your help. Yes, more references have been added about the society, its appearance in the news, its links within the university and some of the archives. If more is necessary please let me know. There is currently no information about the society on wikipedia and it would be beneficial to start this article and add to it as more research is done about its history.
Ilyacambridge (
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16:41, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment If you want to reinforce the notability of the subject you will need to give reliable sources such as newspapers and articles from the archives. References to youtube and social media are just not going to cut it. Most university societies do not have have articles because they cannot show their notability. Think to yourself, has this society had any impact outside of the university environment.
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13:09, 29 January 2017 (UTC)reply
"Keep" Thank you for your concern. And the "socks" being what exactly? Russian Culture and history within the top two universities of the United Kingdom? The society is a University society that has no political affiliation. There is no significant Google Books or Scholar references because it is, again, a university society not a business or money making organisation. The society is one of the biggest in Cambridge and has had some incredible people visit for talks, artists, musicians, authors, journalists etc. Please see the added references.
Ilyacambridge (
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11:41, 27 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete. The modern reincarnation of the society doesn't appear in significant references. The Slavonic Society maybe notable, but I cannot find any references to show this.
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13:09, 29 January 2017 (UTC)reply
I couldn't find any independent reference for the assertion that Nabokov founded the Slavonic Society. Has anyone come across such a source? --
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Other than the infobox, this article has stood empty since it was created in April 2016. I try to avoid school notability, but at the moment, notable or not, it's an embarrassment. If nothing else, perhaps this AfD will trigger improvements to the article.
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Fails
WP:NGEO and
WP:GNG and also seems to have a bit of promotion in the article. I've done multiple searches on this village and also done a map search of the area, and the only thing i've found is a school called "Kanhai Ka Pura School". This also tells me that this village could be made up. There are also no sources present in the article that establish notability. I proposed this article for deletion per
WP:PROD but this was declined per
WP:NGEO, but the article has shown no evidence of passing this guideline so far.
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It's a village so doesn't seem to meet NGEO at face value. Only "notable" living person there was born in 2001 and doesn't even have their own article. I think you could be right about the place being fictitious. Also no sources, so I wouldn't have removed the PROD tag. I'm therefore voting Delete.
Patient Zerotalk13:24, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete. Even the article's content indicates it is
WP:MADEUP. We didn't like the old name of the place. There is no such village in Bhind district in the 2011 Indian census. The supposed old name occurs in several places in other districts in Madhya Pradesh. Fails
WP:V.
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Article claims some significance of the subject, which is why I declned the A7 tagging, but checking for sources I can't find any on GNews, GBooks, etc. His claims to notability are shaky at best and I couldn't find any sources that he passes
WP:BIO,
WP:GNG or
WP:PROF. SoWhy13:03, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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I found two sources about this event but both are from local papers, which is probably not enough to establish notability. Other than those two sources, significant reliable coverage for this film festival is sorely lacking.
Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew12:01, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Appears to be a non-notable student film festival. A Gnews search for the full name turns up a sole Ghit for an unrelated event at a Maine high school. Delete It held its first festival
last year. Maybe just give it some time -- and notability -- before recreating.
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Cannot find any reliable sources in English that establish notability for company. Prodded article and editor added a reference, but not from what I would consider a reliable source. As it stands, article fails
WP:GNG and
WP:ORG.
CNMall41 (
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08:10, 10 January 2017 (UTC)reply
It's
WP:UGC and hosted by
Blogger. Personal travel blog with no fact checking policy that I can find listed. Unless the site owner is an established expert (which I cannot find anything to support that) it would not be a reliable source IMHO. --
CNMall41 (
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18:46, 10 January 2017 (UTC)reply
According to the site's about section, the blogger is a graduate of business administration. Doesn't that make him a expert?
FoxLad (
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23:12, 10 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Not in my opinion. It only means he is a "graduate of business administration." If that were the case, I would be an expert in computer engineering and I guarantee you I am no where near that. I'm still struggling with Wikipedia. --
CNMall41 (
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05:24, 11 January 2017 (UTC)reply
DeleteNeutral, pending further comments from OP in discussion below.--talk2Chun(
talk) (
contributions) 23:52, 11 January 2017 (UTC), per
CNMall41's reasoning. Of the references provided, one is a blog with no available info as to establish expertise of the blogger so as to lend reliability to the source (per
WP:BLOGS), while another is a job-listing website, which given the
dead link and the nature of the source, cannot IMHO reasonably help establish notability of the business/organisation by itself. The only other cited resource, which on the basis of
good faith I will assume to be an independent reliable source, does not seem to support notability either, as it merely seems to support the running of the business without a permit at a given moment (and thus would not amount to sufficient/in-depth coverage per
WP:SIGCOV and
WP:ORGDEPTH). A Google search (using the queries "Burger Machine philippines" -wikipedia and "Burger Machine" +philippines -wikipedia) did not result in any other reliable sources either to establish or support notability.--talk2Chun(
talk) (
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Weak keep. Here's an 2009 article about the founder from the Philippine Star that confirms there were more than 1400 of these burger stands at one point
[20]; and a page about the company in a Philippine business textbook
[21]. With due regard for avoiding
systemic geographical bias, I'd be inclined to give a national chain of that size the benefit of the doubt.--
Arxiloxos (
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06:51, 11 January 2017 (UTC)reply
I would too. The only problem is that I believe a franchise with 1,400 locations would have more press. Unfortunately, there are only the brief mentions you presented as well as information from unreliable sources. What you presented would not satisfy
WP:CORPDEPTH IMO. I agree the place exists, but so do a ton of other franchises that don't meet notability guidelines. --
CNMall41 (
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08:05, 11 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep Found a book reference (Felina C. Young; Cristobal M. Pagoso (2008).
Principles of Marketing' 2008 Ed. Manila, Phillippines: Rex Book Store. pp. 256–258.
ISBN9789712350634. Retrieved 11 January 2017. {{
cite book}}: Unknown parameter |last-author-amp= ignored (|name-list-style= suggested) (
help)) which I posted on the article Talk page. I didn't add it to the article yet because it differs in some respects, e.g. founders were husband and wife, not sisters; 81 stores in first year; etc. Assuming it's the same company, I !voted keep as this is a reliable source.
Geoff | Who, me?20:17, 11 January 2017 (UTC)reply
That's the same source presented above. Can you tell me how, based on the single passing mention source you presented, this would meet
WP:CORPDEPTH or
WP:ORG? Again, you proven its existence, nothing more. --
CNMall41 (
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21:33, 11 January 2017 (UTC)reply
I realized only after I posted that the book was the same as mentioned by Arxiloxos. Nevertheless, it appears to me to be a
reliable source with enough substance that, assuming it refers to the same organization, supports general notability. Another mention in a publication of longstanding substance is this:
The Fookien Times Philippines Yearbook. Philippines: Fookien Times. 1997. p. 284. Retrieved 11 January 2017. from
The Fookien Times. And yet another mention here:
Asian Business, Volume 36, Issues 7-12. Philippines: Far East Trade Press. 2000. p. 22. Retrieved 11 January 2017. I'm thinking there's enough available if we kept looking to justify keeping the article as I've been able to find these in a relatively short period of time, even with the issue of
systemic geographical bias mentioned by Arxiloxos, which clearly affects search results. The does not seem to be a "one-location" restaurant, but one with 1,000s of sites in operation, at least at one time. And
notability is not temporary.
Geoff | Who, me?22:34, 11 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Okay, let me ask it this way as I don't think I was clear enough in my original question.
WP:ORG states the company would be notable if it "has been the subject of significant coverage in secondary sources. Such sources must be reliable, and independent of the subject." How do the sources you provided meet that criteria? --
CNMall41 (
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22:53, 11 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment Having had a brief look at the additional sources provided by
Arxiloxos and
Geoff, I must admit that
notability may have been met for this topic. Of the four elements of
WP:ORG and
WP:GNG, I haven't found any reason to doubt the
reliability or
independence of these
secondary sources. The only question is whether
significant coverage has been established. Going by the description of significance in
WP:GNG
"Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material.
On the other hand, the notability guideline doesn't require that the subject is the main topic of the source material, only that it's more than a trivial mention. The spirit and the letter of the guideline are concerned with having enough content to write articles from a neutral point of view.
it is clear that significant coverage only requires that there is enough information so that
no original research is required. It does not require substantial coverage. In this light, it seems that significant coverage is also met. At the minimum, the book discusses the case of "Burger Machine" in quite some detail, notwithstanding that length-wise, it does not cover more than one page. Assuming the other two sources also cover the topic in some detail (and I'm willing to take this assumption
in good faith, it is likely that notability for the purpose of Wikipedia has been met (regardless of whatever opinion any of us have on the
notoriety of the topic).--talk2Chun(
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1 - Not sure I follow the reasoning here.
WP:TRIVCOV states we need "significant coverage that addresses the subject in detail is required". Note it says "in detail." We have four references, only two of which are readable to determine any depth of what is actually said of the subject. I agree with the definition of
WP:SIGCOV in that it must "address the topic directly and in detail so that no original research is needed to extract content." The only content can we extract from the two sources is that it exists.
2 -
WP:CORPDEPTH says that "Trivial or incidental coverage of a subject is not sufficient to establish notability." This is trivial coverage as it only mentions its existence. It also says "Deep coverage provides an organization with a level of attention that extends well beyond routine announcements and makes it possible to write more than a very brief, incomplete stub about an organization." Do we have enough to write MORE than a very brief, incomplete stub? Not really. In fact, the only two references that we could use actually contradict each other as far as ownership so we cannot even talk about who founded it. There is nothing else to write about then.
3 -
WP:SIGCOV states that ""Presumed" means that significant coverage in reliable sources creates an assumption, not a guarantee, that a subject should be included. A more in-depth discussion might conclude that the topic actually should not have a stand-alone article—perhaps because it violates
what Wikipedia is not, particularly the rule that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information." Based on what we can write about (its existence) would violate
Wikipedia:NOT as all we have to write about is that it exists.
4 - Now I am the first person who will vote to keep an article if I can find a reason to. Here, I just don't see how this passes
WP:GNG,
WP:ORG, or
WP:CORPDEPTH. Not even close. If it did based on the rationale provided, I could create Wikipedia pages for any company I can find mentions for as long as they are from at least 2 reliable sources. But again, just my humble opinion based on interpretation of the guidelines.--
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This is a classic example of confusing the criteria in
WP:Notability with
WP:Reliable sources. All of the citations given, and the discussion at the article's talk page, are about third parties that have either cited Leip's Atlas, or have attested to its reliability. None of them actually says anything about the site, or gives any details about why they say it's reliable, or that they have fact-checked anything they found on the site. These citations might support an argument at
WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard that we may cite Leip's Atlas, but no amount of this type of evidence is sufficient to justify having an article about it. Even at that, this website has no editorial oversight, and is entirely the work of one person who has not published in the field and is not a recognized expert in election data, failing
WP:SELFPUBLISH and
Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources#Exceptions.
Dennis Bratland (
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23:10, 18 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete It would seem the article's creator has a
COI and is using Wikipedia for promotional gain. It would seem on
this site that the author is using Wikipedia to substantiate claims that this atlas "...has been used a reference for U.S. election and political data by major media outlets. Leip's Atlas has been cited as a "preferred source for election results" by statistician and political pundit Nate Silver" Otherwise, this is just a collection of data, that also exists outside of this atlas, making the subject of this article not meet
WP:N.
{MordeKyle} ☢23:26, 18 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep. If the website is self-published, it is an illogical argument to say the publisher "is not a recognized expert in election data" when the opposite is objectively obvious, as the article makes clear in the ten references. There aren't articles about baseballreference.com or allmusic.com or other statistics websites that have Wikipedia articles either. That's the nature reference sites. You don't talk about them, you use them or cite them.
2005 (
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02:37, 19 January 2017 (UTC)reply
You should click through and read the guidelines I referenced. The more complete quote at
Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources#Exceptions is: "Self-published material may sometimes be acceptable when its author is an established expert whose work in the relevant field has been published by reliable third-party publications." They're saying whoever this guy is, he would be need to have had his writings on the subject published in a book, magazine, journal, etc. in order to verify that he is an expert on this subject. Leip has not been published elsewhere on this subject, and in fact this is not his field at all.
Your argument makes no sense. The article has multiple references showing Leip is published. Th Wikipedia uses his material in hundreds of articles. If you point is the trivial one that he hasn't written papers on what it is like to aggregate elections statistics, who cares? That's not the important aspect of how his work is published. As for the "other stuff exists wikisilliness, let's not go there. If you have nothing better to do with your Wikipedia time than also try to delete articles about Baseball Reference or AllMusic, I'd suggest finding a more productive focus.
2005 (
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19:44, 19 January 2017 (UTC)reply
The article has zero references showing Leip is published. Zero. The guidelines say "an established expert whose work in the relevant field has been published by reliable third-party publications". Nobody but Leip has published Leip's work. Sources cited Leip, but they didn't publish his work. Meeting the reliable source criteria is not the same as meeting the notability criteria.
You are free to disagree with the established guidelines, but I don't think you should be terribly shocked when an editor like me supports deletion on the grounds that it fails to meet the plain meaning of our guidelines. You're entitled to your opinion that
WP:OSE or
WP:WAX are "silly", but those principles are widely accepted and you should expect to have a frustrating experience if you react this way every time you meet someone who follows the guidelines. A good use of your time might be working to change the guidelines, rather than sniping at those just getting on with the work of building the encyclopedia.
We don't create articles when the subject only gets passing mention, or trivial coverage, and we don't create articles just because the subject is cited a lot. Citations, often nothing but a footnote or a web link, are not significant coverage. --
Dennis Bratland (
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20:08, 19 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep -- an endorsement by
Nate Silver is a strong indication of notability and significance, as far as election web sites go. For example, WaPo provides this paragraph, calling the web site "great":
"Dave Leip's great-if-not-super-modern Atlas of Presidential Elections has collected data on contested primaries going back to 1992 -- including vote totals by state for primaries and caucuses, when possible. It allows us to estimate with some certainty how many voters cast their votes for candidates. But, perhaps more interestingly, it lets us figure out which voters actually mattered -- that is, the votes cast before and after a candidate clinched the nomination."
Once again, these arguments would support
reliability. This is evidence that you can cite this source. It is not evidence of
notability. A blurb saying, "this is awesome the best five stars would go there again" is great, but is not significant coverage. It's an endorsement. Two different things. --
Dennis Bratland (
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07:37, 29 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Sources
The fact that the article currently contains
Reception section suggests to me that we are dealing with a notable entity here. If this web site were a book, as widely cited as this web site, and with reviews/evaluations by independent 3rd party sources, we would not delete an article on it, I don't think.
Passing judgement is not significant coverage. Significant coverage tells us facts about the subject. Facts we can put in the article. Quote: "Significant coverage addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material." These blurbs, no matter how enthusiastically they endorse the website, tell us nothing about the website. What is the point of having a Wikipedia article? To give readers information. Where do we get the information that goes in the article? From the significant coverage found in our sources. What information do we have about Leip's Atlas? Nothing. We don't know anything about the website, except that a bunch of other sources trust it. Not a single one of these endorsements even tells us why they trust the site. Your entire article consists of no verifiable information except a litany of sources that give Leip's Atlas a thumbs up. Try this: delete everything from the article that is not verifiable in a third party source. What do you have left?
All of which is just another way of saying that reliability is not the same as notability. Hats off to sources that are reliable. All respect. But we don't write an article about every reliable source. --
Dennis Bratland (
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20:53, 29 January 2017 (UTC)reply
These three sources provide facts that can be put in the article, not just endorsements:
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The result was keep. Notability established
at prior AfD discussion. Notability is
not temporary, and no argument has been put forward to suggest the prior evidence of notability was incorrect or that the prior AfD conclusion was wrong. Even without the prior AfD, sufficient sources are shown here and in the article itself to establish notability. Any future AfD should address this and the prior AfD and demonstrate how these conclusions are flawed. Non-admin closure per
WP:NAC #1. --
Hammersoft (
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16:22, 2 February 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep. The previous AfD from 2012 was a clear "keep" outcome, and I have linked to it here above using {{
subst:oldafdlist|The Jungle Book (Swedish play)}}. From that discussion it is worth quoting
Julle: I did a quick search in Mediearkviet ("The Media Archive"), where a number of Swedish newspapers keep digital archives. The director, Alexander Mørk-Eidem, was nominated for the Swedish Theater Critics Award in the children and youth category in 2007, citing his work with the play (
Svenska Dagbladet 2008-01-05). I find (mainly positive) reviews in pretty much all of the major Swedish newspapers, e.g.
Aftonbladet 2007-01-13,
Metro (
TT) 2007-01-13,
Svenska Dagbladet 2007-01-10,
Göteborgs-Posten 2007-01-14. There are also shorter articles in newspapers in neighbouring countires (Finnish
Hufvudstadsbladet 2007-01-09, Norwegian
Dagbladet). And then yet again when it moved to another stage in
Västerås (e.g.
Svenska Dagbladet 2007-12-23). The adaption is also mentioned in later articles, referred to as a "success" or "cash cow" ("kassako"). So, yes, in obvious need of sources and of a rewrite, but definitely notable.
and I do not see the
WP:JNN argument being a "strong reason supporting deletion", cf.
WP:LASTTIME.
I have added a few more references with significant coverage readily found online, both from reliable, independent sources:
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Reinstated after a soft delete without any rationale (except that it pissed of the editor as per the edit summary). Page has no references, notability is not inherited.
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The paper Trigg, Roger, "
Thought and Language." Proceedings of the Aristotelian Society, Vol. 79, Aristotelian Society, Wiley, 1978 contains the sentence "The concept of tomorrow is doubtless very difficult to acquire without language." I can't access the full paper however... Perhaps the article could be further expanded based on that paper. --
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There is one link (of unclear notability) that merely confirms that the individual exists. I do not see anything in the article which would make him notable according to specific criteria, and he seems to fail
WP:GNG.
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Delete as blatant bio-spam very obviously created by a COI/PAID user, as
Husseini energy matches
http://www.husseinienergy.com/ He may be notable, news and book sources reveal that he at least is often quoted in English language sources, but in a case like this I tend to agree with a view held by
DGG that Any article edited by a promotional editor should always be deleted. This is the only way to discourage people from using the WP for advertising. If the subject is actually important, someone else will create an article. Rescuing it sends the message that if your write an unacceptable article about yourself, someone will very possibly fix it for you, and therefore you might as well try to advertise here. It furthermore sends the message that if you hire someone to write an article and they take money for doing this, and they write the usual unacceptable article such people write, then someone will fix it for you free, while the guy who wrote the bad article gets the money. (diff) — SamSailor19:12, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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WP:NOTWEBHOST full of descriptions of his cases. Already some of the victims have expressed their concerns that this article harasses them. Which violates
WP:BLP. From previous deletion discussion it is clear that it is a COI. Created to promote the subject. An
WP:SPA created this large and well formatted article in a
single edit. The account was
created at 07:44 and the article 07:51 on 24 November 2014. A new account can not create such large, well formatted article in just 7 minutes. It must be a
WP:SOCK of any expert wikipedian. Meaninf its an Undisclosed paid editing. -
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Keep - per COVERAGE, per WP:GNG. plenty of good sources. That a SPA created the article is irrelevant as long as the article subject passes WP:GNG. This article was put through an AfD in July 2015, with No consensus result. I see nothing that points towards a Delete !vote, as the article seems to have been improved even further since then.
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Withdraw nomination. His article is so badly written, it doesn't highlight his Wonder Years role. That and his other credits are just enough.
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Delete If the content can be sourced, it might be notable. However, the page seems like a hoax. Aside from an imdb page, I would be sure it is a hoax. The first 4 pages that I checked in the footnotes were either dead or had no supporting content.--
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Weak delete Does not have to satisfy any specific SNG if there is sufficient NEXISTS generally, but while there is some material available, I cannot see sufficient IRSS. I suspect this person is potentially notable, but cannot readily find the relevant required sources.
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Keep Since his career is basicly pre-internet it will be much harder to find. However I did find a reference quite easily, the claims are significant, so this person will easily pass
WP:PROF, and you could be sure there will be more references in newspapers and other publications.
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Fails
WP:ANYBIO: No significant coverage which addresses the topic directly and in details to support her work also I can't see if she has played a major role in
India’s Daughter, I tried per
WP:INDAFD but failed to find significant coverage in independent secondary reliable sources to support
WP:NACTOR.
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GSS-1987, the creator of this article has asked at Teahouse how to save the article while they work on it. Obviously Draft-ifying it would do do that. As no one has voted on this and you are a page mover, would you be willing to extend the author some good faith and move it to draft? As I am uninvolved here, if you choose to do that I'll be happy to close this as withdrawn for you. Thanks.
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@
John from Idegon:Done: now let's see if the author can provide some independent reliable sources to support the notability. Please go ahead and close this AfD as Draftify. Thank you –
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WP:OR, overly detailed coat rack. In fact just a list of programs, often not notable, broadcasted (not made) by a local channel.
And according to
an article owner: WHO ARE YOU?! YOU DON'T ANYHOW CHANGE THE COLOUR AT "List of MediaCorp Channel 8 Chinese drama series (2010s)"! THAT PAGE IS FOR SINGAPOREANS TO READ! NOT FOR OVERSEAS PEOPLE LIKE YOU! IF THAT PAGE MADE YOU PUKE, THEN DON'T READ IT! NO ONE ASK YOU TO READ! BY THE WAY, THAT PAGE IS NOT FOR READING! If the page is Singaporeans only, it is not relevant for the worldwide Wikipedia. And when the article is not for reading, what else is the use of this article? The Bannertalk13:09, 12 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep This is a useful list of dramas on Channel 8, which is a channel of the national (and only) TV broadcaster
Mediacorp. Channel 8 is watched by a lot of people and I think it is encyclopaedic and helpful to preserve this list. --
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18:42, 16 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment about original programming The vast majority of dramas on Channel 8 are produced by government owned
Mediacorp itself in Singapore. And the
Channel 8 itself is one of the few local television channels here (There are only 7 television channels in Singapore, all controlled by Mediacorp). These few channels have lots of viewers and it is useful to keep this info. The side effect of lots of viewers is the disruptive editing and "fan edits" on these articles. --
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18:52, 16 January 2017 (UTC)reply
I usually keep a watch on these articles and I am aware of sourcing/NOR problems. However, sometimes it slips through my watchlist. If there is any disruptive editing, please let me know on my talk page and I would be happy to help out. --
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Not notable and the external references are to itself. — Preceding
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Comment - This discussion page was created without the {{afd2}} template and never transcluded to a daily log. Fixed now--I offer no opinion on the nomination itself. @
Ziphit: For future nominations, please fully follow the procedures at
WP:AFDHOWTO. --
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Reference 1 is a biography that was supplied by the article's subject, per the note at the reference "Biography provided by the composer — current to March 2007". As such it's a primary source. Reference 3 is actually broken. You need to go to reference 1 to find the list. Reference 6 lists the subject as a guest, but provides very little else. Reference 7 is the detail for reference 6. Together they actually provide only one reference. --
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Refs 1&3 are provided by an independent body and the catalogue shows that the subject has performed/composed numerous works. Refs 6&7 show that he was the subject of a national radio programme (yes, he was a guest on it!) which described his research on dementia and baroque music.
shaidar cuebiyar (
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21:52, 17 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment - I'm yet to form an opinion but some of the references in the article don't seem to meet the requirements of
WP:GNG, regardless of what WP:MUSICBIO might say. --
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14:50, 14 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep The article seems to have a good amount of references, and Mr. Helm has been talked about in 3rd party sources. I would say that we should leave it alone, or try to improve it.
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I feel that the reasoning given by @
SwisterTwister: in their PROD (removed by the page creator) is valid; "Searches have found nothing but mere announcements, mentions and listings with none of it being the needed substance and there's no automatic inherited notability from anything or anyone else; listed sources are still only the mirrored announcements and mentions." No indication of
WP:ORG being met.
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I'm unconvinced that
WP:NARTIST is met.
Hufpo is the best source, but interviews are not great for establishing notability. Next best is
NYT but he is not the subject of it and it does not discuss his art.
Coverage in local newspapers is of no use for determining notability.
SmartSE (
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20:32, 19 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete fails
WP:ARTIST. exhibits, awards are unsourced, and difficult to find. #1 is primary. #2 is a blog post. #3 is the best of the lot, but it is in the the local paper in one of the wolrd's most internecine art communities #4 the NYTimes is about his activity as a collector of another artist. # 5 is about a film about a childhood friend of Christensen's #6 is a listing about an exhibition organized by Christensen as a collector # 7 is primary and # 8 is about a group exhibition in the Hamptons in which his work was included. All in all, it adds up to proof that Christensen is extremely well-connected in the Hamptons, that he is the close friend of artists, and the sibling of an artist, but not that he is notable in his own right either as a collector or as an artist.
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Article does not assert notability and the refs provided barely qualify as superficial. Googling suggests that he's an unremarkable sports journalist with no particular notoriety or claim to fame. Most Google hits are for stuff he's written. I did find
this small bio and although it's better than the sources we have it's still nothing to base an article on.
Matt Deres (
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03:11, 11 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep The article is quite short and could use some expansion and references, but Bianchi is notable enough for an entry. He has been a prominent Florida sports journalist / commentator / whiner (I'm not much of a fan, not that that's relevant) for years in print, radio, and TV, and he's won several state and national awards for sports journalism. Mike clearly meets the notability requirements, imo.
Zeng8r (
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11:46, 11 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment Whether he's prominent or not is irrelevant. He needs to be
notable in the Wikipedia sense and that means he needs to have "significant coverage" in
reliable third-party sources. The current article doesn't have any of that and I couldn't find anything when I looked. If you can find some, great, toss them in there and I'll be happy to withdraw the nomination.
Matt Deres (
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03:02, 22 January 2017 (UTC)reply
comment To support my earlier point above, a quick search turned up the fact that Bianchi was named an "Alumnus of Distinction" by the University of Florida's College of Journalism and Communications in 2013. This
page on the UF CJC's website lists some of his awards and accomplishments.. Sports journalists don't fit neatly into any of Wikipedia's notability categories - by the nature of their jobs, they do much more writing (and in Bianchi's case, talking on TV and radio as well) about athletes and teams than they'll ever be written or talked about themselves. But when someone has successfully worked in many different facets of the sports reporting / commentating industry for many years and has received multiple recognitions from his peers, it seems to me that he's notable enough for an article. (And again, I'm not much of a fan, just giving credit where credit is due.)
Zeng8r (
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23:55, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete. Being named an "alumnus of distinction" by his own alma mater is not, in and of itself, a claim of notability that would get a person into an encyclopedia — and while winning an award from the
National Sportscasters and Sportswriters Association might be, it would still have to be referenced to
reliable source coverage about him and not just to the NSSA's own
self-published website. There are lots of people who sound notable in theory, but simply don't actually have the depth of RS coverage needed to actually clear our inclusion rules — and while journalists do tend to fall in that camp given that their job is to report the story while generally trying not to be the story, that fact does not mean that we can exempt journalists from having to pass
WP:GNG on the depth of sourcing. Because we're an encyclopedia that anybody can edit, we can't guarantee that every "anybody" who edits the article is actually doing so responsibly or correctly — our articles are quite regularly overwritten with promotional PR puffery and/or dirtwashed with unsourced criticism or "controversy", and reliable sourcing is the only defense that we have against inappropriate edits. So we can't exempt somebody from having to be the subject of enough media coverage to clear GNG — unfortunate though it may be, there are some topics for whom the necessary depth of sourcing just isn't there, so we just can't actually keep an article regardless of how notable they sound like they should be.
Bearcat (
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17:30, 27 January 2017 (UTC)reply
comment I've been an active Wikipedian for almost a decade, so I know the notability guidelines and the reasons behind them pretty well, thanks. There probably be should be a specialized list of notability criteria for members of the media, but there isn't, so
Wikipedia:Notability (media) is a good resource. Yes, it's primarily concerned with the notability of broadcast outlets, but it's also instructive when considering broadcast personalities, especially this section:
...the media does not often report on itself. It is not often that one media outlet will give neutral attention to another, as this could be seen as "advertising for the competition." Also, when searching for sources on media outlets, the results are often pages produced by the outlet, making it difficult to find significant coverage in multiple sources. As media outlets are themselves a significant proportion of our sources for other content, however, it serves an important purpose for Wikipedia to provide neutral and verifiable information about those sources so that readers are able to evaluate their reliability and scope. Accordingly, the notability standards for media organizations and content are designed to be as inclusive, not restrictive, as possible within the bounds of verifiability in reliable sources.
Bianchi is a well-known, award winning journalist who has worked in three different broadcast mediums for almost 20 years. (Four, if you count online commentary.) Right there, he meets the first criteria for inclusion for a periodical, which, I would argue, confers notability on the person who won the award. As to your other points, the article is far too short, but it isn't puffery, and I don't see any indication that a PR person or Bianchi himself wrote it to make him look good. (And now that it's on my watchlist, it will never turn into a PR piece.) It just needs expansion and the inclusion of more facts besides a basic list of where he's worked and what awards he's won. And there are some good sources of information. It's inaccurate to call the UF and NSSA award pages "self-published" - they're independent institutions, independent of Bianchi and each other. Looking at the big picture and keeping
WP:NOTPAPER in mind, Bianchi meets the notability standards.
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Redirect to
Almavision Aired nothing but that, pretty much a glorified translator for Almavision's
KTAV-LD for the northern part of the Southland. The majority of the article is filled with information about the station before it aired one image, which is a good sign of a short-lived station with little history. Nate•(
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The result was redirect to
Exhaust (band). There is limited participation on this AFD. Although there is one keep !vote, the argument that this article doesn't meet
WP:NALBUM has not been rebutted. A pragmatic solution here is to redirect it to the article about the band. The history of the article is preserved in case anyone may want to merge content. (
non-admin closure)
Lemongirl942 (
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06:25, 3 February 2017 (UTC)reply
Thanks for finding that review; although it appears to be on the personal website of a person named Aaron, he seems to have written a lot of reviews. I wasn't suggesting deleting the article about the band and I am not questioning the notability of Girt, even though his article has only one reference; however, I don't see that this particular album passes
WP:NALBUM. Notability of an album isn't inherited from the artist or band, and the record company info doesn't help with notability either. If the album info were added to the
Exhaust (band) article, and the album title made into a redirect, the result would still be fairly short; readers could read more conveniently about both in the same article.—
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A poorly attended previous AfD ended in no consensus in July. The article on the International Federation of BodyBuilders says, "The IFBB annually holds more than 2,500 competitions at the local, national, regional, continental, and World Championships levels." Given that so many competitions are held, national competitions, particularly short lived competitions such as in Canada, simply are not notable, while higher level competitions, such as regional, continental and worldwide championships most likely are notable. Delete for failure to satisfy both
WP:GNG and applicable sports notability guidelines. Do not redirect, as title is too generic to make a good redirect.
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Delete as per nom.
WP:TOOSOON,
WP:Music and
WP:GNG all valid here. Subject does have 2 youtube videos with half a million views each and 20,000 instagram followers, but this is not a significant following. It must be noted that those videos are answer songs to one with over 2m views.
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I do not believe this company has the sort of in-depth coverage required to meet
WP:CORP. This was actually an uncontested PROD: however, the reason supplied for PRODing it was "irrelevance to the public," which is not a valid deletion reason, and so I felt compelled to de-PROD and send it here.
Vanamonde (
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09:16, 18 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete or Merge and REDIRECT to
Avnet. Definitely not notable, but since it was acquired by Avnet in 2012 it would be reasonable to mention it there, merging in whatever can be properly sourced. Not currently in Avnet, but Avnet is already tagged as incomplete.
MB04:38, 21 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete: A
WP:SPA article on a consultancy firm. I am seeing nothing more significant than fastest-growing lists and then routine coverage at the point when the firm was taken over; no
evidence provided or found to indicate that it ever met
WP:CORPDEPTH, or
WP:GNG.
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Does not appear to be a notable musician: all I could find about her online are a few artist profiles, lyrics pages, and apparently a Kickstarter page. Not much specifically about her.
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c Not sure if this is the way I should respond, but there are a few references up and I'm working on getting more up, do not delete the page. Wiki is being policed way too hard and is lowering the appeal of this platform. — Preceding
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Absolutely this is how to do it. This is where the resolution will be made as to whether the article should stay or go, so any input you have will be most likely to be noticed here. Also, any and all input you can provide is valuable. Good luck! Zeke, the Mad Horrorist(Speak quickly)(Follow my trail) 07:54, 11 January 2017 (UTC
c It appears that a quick judgement for deletion was made based on a small amount of information that had been posted at the beginning stages of building the page and a call for deletion was made five min into creating the Wikipedia page for Jenevive before all of the information had been posted. The final version of the page had not been completed and posted until later after the need for deletion had been decided. It is in my opinion that the completed page for Jenevive meets the minimum criteria to remain posted on Wikipedia.
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This is unreferenced and this list really should not have its own article. This is the only team in the PBA that has its own separate article for their import players. If deletion is not applicable, maybe merging and redirecting this this into
TNT KaTropa all-time roster is a possible move. Babymissfortune10:07, 18 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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Okay, thanks for notice. I am not trying to self-promote, rather to create an entry about this annual event that is strictly factual, describing the event. Please advise what steps can be taken to keep this article online! Thanks
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No claims of significance, could find nothing on the web and no in-depth coverage. The only thing I could find about hydrocord is a system for handles on water bottles. Fails
WP:PRODUCT as this is an experimental system it may be
WP:TOOSOON as it fails
WP:GNGDomdeparis (
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14:13, 18 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete. It seems to be a very special system with application strictly limited to hydro power plants. A redirect to
Statkraft would perhaps be plausible with better sourcing, if the system was essential to the company, but that does not seem to be the case, and I have found no sources that support this is meeting
WP:GNG for a stand-alone article. Delete for now per
WP:DEL8. — SamSailor17:13, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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Proposed small ballpark that never materialized. Plans have been scrapped (see
here for instance. There is some local coverage about the various delays and ultimate cancellation of the project but I don't think this is sufficient to firmly establish notability.
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WP:NEO,
WP:PRECISION. Unsourced and unsourceable. Scope is too vague to be covered in an encyclopedia. "Seafarer" has a dictionary definition of a sailor or a traveler by sea. The term is not used in academic sources or in common parlance to refer to sea-living cultures collectively, whether Austronesians or not. Which brings into question on what this article is about. The existing content of the article is already covered at the individual pages of the groups linked here, the dab page at
Sea gypsies/
Sea nomads (which in contrast, are actually commonly used terms), and the article on the
Austronesian peoples. This article dates back to 2005 and seems to have started out as a
WP:DICDEF for
Seafarers (currently a redirect to
Sailor) that slowly morphed into a haphazard
WP:CONCEPTDAB, then got split off.
OBSIDIAN†SOUL16:22, 18 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep and rename to
Sea gypsies (with lowercase g) to supplant the current dab page, per above comment. The seafarers term fails
WP:NEO, but sea gypsies doesn't, and is what describes the actual scope of the current article. --
Paul_012 (
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15:36, 30 January 2017 (UTC)reply
The terms "Sea gypsies" and "Sea nomads" aren't abstract or difficult to define, thus
WP:BROAD isn't necessary. It's a catchall term that is used quite specifically in almost all sources to refer to one of the groups listed in the
dab page. Furthermore, you simply can not describe multiple unrelated cultures in a single page when all they have in common is that they live (or lived) in boats. The content of the current
Seafarers (ethnic groups) article is quite horribly all over the place because of this. Going into detail for some, mentioning others only briefly. The scope seesaws between highly specific to very very generalized. Because again, the only connecting characteristic in the article is that "they all live in boats." That's it. All of the groups listed in the dab page have their respective articles that treat their subjects more thoroughly without conflating anything or implying a cultural relationship where it doesn't exist. If an article should ever be created, it should be on the topic of
Sea nomadism (cf.
Nomadic pastoralism), as in an article on the
way of life in anthropological terms, and not simply a (spottily) expanded list of every single culture that has ever lived or traveled by boat (which is the case here). --
OBSIDIAN†SOUL18:36, 30 January 2017 (UTC)reply
I've taken another look, and while I still think the subject warrants an article (probably best based on an anthropological point of view, as you said), I'm convinced that the current article isn't a good start in that direction, so struck my !vote. --
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Maybe there are better sources in Korean, but I'm not finding basically anything of any reliability in English. Was trimming the article originally for improper ELs, but it doesn't look like the problem of relying to heavily on primary sources is fixable at this time, because that's pretty much all there is, again, at least in English.
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Non-notable site/company. No evidence of substantial coverage in RS that I can find. Article was appears to have been created b someone with a COI (although they've since tried to
remove evidence of that).
Fyddlestix (
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17:13, 18 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete: A
WP:SPA article on a yet-to-launch e-commerce site, in which circumstance it is unsurprising that no
evidence of attained encyclopaedic notability (
WP:NWEB,
WP:CORPDEPTH,
WP:GNG) can be found. It is also worded as an advertisement ("Our customer friendly features") which combined with the lack of claim of notability would have made CSD A7+G11 possible, but at this stage maybe it is better to let the AfD take its course.
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08:14, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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Weak delete since the company has been around for long enough and there might be a wide quantity of coverage, but the article is now so promotional in tone do not see anything worth saving.
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23:55, 22 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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Delete per
WP:MANUAL. I could only find very passing mentions of this product; not sufficient for an encyclopedia entry. Otherwise no indications of notability or significance.
K.e.coffman (
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08:29, 21 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete Apparently this is a useful tool. I find instructions for installing it in several books. All short mentions. Nothing significant. I didn't find coverage needed for notability.
Gab4gab (
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03:36, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep or redirect to
Tail (Unix)#Variants, where it is mentioned. The book
Practical Linux Security Cookbook has three pages devoted to MultiTail. There is an in-depth article on the utility at
Linux Magazine and a shorter article at
ServerWatch. I think these are enough to establish marginal notability per
WP:GNG. Even if notability is disputed, however, the sources definitely form a basis for verifiability of basic facts about the software in independent RS. Wikipedia policy dictates that outright deletion is uncalled for when there are
alternatives to deletion available. One such alternative is a redirect to
Tail (Unix)#Variants, where it is already mentioned. --
Mark viking (
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20:46, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
The fairly long articles briefly mention some items of interest for wikipedia content. Most of the coverage is on to how to install and use the utility. I'm liking the redirect idea.
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Comment No problem with deleting this as there are no values for most of the listings, with no prejudice to recreation if someone ever has the values because as I would point out that
WP:NOTSTATSBOOK wouldn't apply to a page like this because per
WP:5P Wikipedia contains elements of an Almanac and lists of records holders is a very prominent part of Sports Almanacs. Its the reason why pages like this and season pages are completely normal all across the wiki. NOTSTATS applies to indiscriminate collections of stats, where this is a discriminating list of record holders. -
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16:45, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete. Total cruft with nothing worth keeping even if it could be verified, which it can't. Most of these "records" are not even filled in, not that it would help if they were. --
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PROD (as an unsourced BLP) was removed claiming that sources were there, but I see no citations or references (just two external links to unacceptable sources of the subject's own website and his Facebook page) Page exists only to promote subject's brand new clothing line (founded in 2017!) with two (against rules) in-line outside links to the clothing website. When I do a Google search for the subject's name, next to nothing comes up, other than hits for his social media profiles.
Mabalu (
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01:07, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete - shameless & transparent vanity page for an exceptionably non-notable person. No refs. No info. No significant following.
Rayman60 (
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02:46, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete BLP PROD was incorrectly removed. The article had no references (key word) at the time it was nominated, just external links - which definitely aren't the same thing. Never mind - fails the GNG. Delete it with fire.
Exemplo347 (
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19:34, 31 January 2017 (UTC)reply
It also says "the BLP deletion template may be removed only after the biography contains a reliable source that supports at least one statement made about the person in the article" but I suppose you stopped reading before that.
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21:09, 31 January 2017 (UTC)reply
And it also says "To be eligible for a BLPPROD tag, the entry must be a biography of a living person and contain no sources in any form (as references, external links, etc., reliable or otherwise)".
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21:42, 31 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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