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Artists Anonymous Theatre Network

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the owner of the page has claimed this to be a historic no longer existing organisation and thus is outdated and irrelevant to information of the world wide web. due to its similarities with existing artist, the owner Alexander Parsonage has allowed for this deletion on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TazioLinse ( talk • contribs) 15:51, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log ( step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 April 29. — ^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 16:15, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Theatre, Organizations, England, and Scotland. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Kelly Metzger

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This is a non notable voice actor. The article doesn't even meet WP:THREE. The only source I see is for a convention that sources one of her works.

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log ( step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 April 26. — ^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 04:23, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Women, Theatre, Comics and animation, and Canada. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:06, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Delete: Could find no sources to establish notability. Esw01407 ( talk) 16:35, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete. As always, the notability test for actors and actresses is not automatically passed just by listing roles, and requires the provision of WP:GNG-worthy reliable source coverage about her and her roles, but none is present here and I've had about as much luck as the above commenters at finding anything better. Bearcat ( talk) 17:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete - fails per WP:NACTOR, WP:GNG, and WP:THREE. Videogameplayer99 ( talk) 22:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Trés Hanley

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Strong WP:COI vibes; the article creator has (mostly) only edited this article over a period of 14 years, also uploaded the two pictures as "own work" that are in the article. Sources are the subject's personal website and two sources that don't meet WP:RS. Lots of unsourced cruft. A search for more RS reveals lots of user-generated content, which fits the pattern. Fred Zepelin ( talk) 18:29, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Bands and musicians, Women, Television, Theatre, England, and New Jersey. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:30, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Comment. I've removed most of the cruft, including an uncited and frankly ridiculous assertion that she was the first American ever to play Polly in A Beggar's Opera. IBDB lists 7 productions on Broadway alone. Having gotten rid of all that, it appears that some of her roles were more than just bit parts, but if no one can find sufficient press coverage, she would not be considered Notable. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 22:32, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The production was 1993 at London's Canazzaro Park. Miss Hanley did TV interviews in which it was stated several times that she was the first american to play the role. The Director was Peter Benedict. Many of the parks productions are not listed in IBDB even to this day. Yet they are listed with the West End summer limited run productions. PleeUK ( talk) 13:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

There are several parks productions - Holland Park, Regents and Cannazaro London summer theatre associated with the West End in the 90s. Which roles were bit parts? Care to be specific? If you watch any of the shows that she has been in they are all featured roles or principle roles. Is this a legit or personal attempt on her work? PleeUK ( talk) 14:17, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Two questions: (1) do you have reliable secondary sources to back up these statements? (2) Do you have a WP:COI with Hanley? I ask because most of your edits are to this article, and you seem to have a knowledge of her career that sources do not. Fred Zepelin ( talk) 16:20, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Yes, all her works are also verifiable on IMDB. There are various article that were online that may be dead links now. I have met her in the past twice. But cannot say I am a friend. I do find Wiki confusing and so If I did not do something correct I apologize. PleeUK ( talk) 16:54, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

You say you "cannot say I am a friend" - but in this edit, you say "You are looking to delete my friends page." Let's continue this tangent on your talk page. Fred Zepelin ( talk) 16:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

I have said, I do not know her personally but I consider her a friend. I have followed her on social media and she is my friend there. You people here are very technical. Not all as familiar with the technical workings here.

You also make many false statements here saying her roles were bit parts when her name is on poster for movie mouth to mouth. And she has been lead or featured. Maybe you are experts on how to use wikipedia and I am not. I did apologize for it, but you do not have your facts on the actress correct. I was making an intervention on keep her page that's all. You do what you need to do. Thank you. PleeUK ( talk) 17:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Provide citations to the articles in your scrapbook, as described below and on your own Talk page. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 18:21, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

User:PleeUK, Wikipedia does not accept IMDB as a WP:reliable source, because it is user-generated, so you need to cite reviews or articles from reputable publishers, like newspapers, about each production, show and film in which she appeared. You can't just say "she got press coverage" for something, you need to cite the exact article, author name, page number or URL, etc. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 17:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

I have a scrap book with information but i cannot track it to the periodicals online today. This is from over 20 yrs ago not now all online. PleeUK ( talk) 17:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

They don't have to be online. Here is how you can succeed: We need the name of the publication, the title and date of the article or book, the name of the author and the page number on which the information appeared. Post those things on the article's Talk page, and also type out the exact text from the article that verifies a statement made in Henley's article, so that I and other editors can see it, and if it does verify WP:NOTEWORTHY facts about her from a WP:RS, then I can add an appropriate cite to her Wikipedia entry. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 17:27, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

You say IMDB is user generated but not all most of it is supplied from the tv or film compamies. You can watch the shows and see these actors in the roles. So how is this not legit? PleeUK ( talk) 17:23, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

On your talk page, Fred Zepelin has posted the answer to your question. But be assured that it is not an acceptable source, and you will not succeed by arguing about that. Instead, follow the procedure that I outlined for you above. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 17:27, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Danny Mastrogiorgio

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Non-notable actor whose career has been a string of tiny roles and insignificant voice acting gigs. Fails WP:BIO. Capt. Milokan ( talk) 21:47, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete - Fails WP:BASIC and WP:NACTOR. Starring roles in My Italy Story, Rocky the Musical, and Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories. The reviews for My Italy Story seem to be only ones that mention his performance (Hartford Courant review the only one that isn't a permanent dead link: [1]). -- Mika1h ( talk) 13:25, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Ineligible for soft deletion.
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Nick Winston

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Zero inline sources in entire article, no evidence of significant notability online. The article is of significant length, but there are few sources and none inline. 2003 LN 6 05:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete: Highly promotional and is practically a list of accomplishments without sourcing. Shadow311 ( talk) 15:42, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep. There are hundreds of reviews of his work, and he has directed and/or choreographed numerous West End musicals. Obviously, no one did the research to add references to this article, but that is not a justification for deletion at AfD. I agree that the massive list of credits should be severely culled, but that is a task for another day. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 17:31, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep Strong news coverage exists as stated by Ssilvers. He seems to have some awards as well. IMO, it should not have been nominated. Perfectstrangerz ( talk) 01:44, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Keep definitely meets WP:GNG although article needs clean up. Orange sticker ( talk) 10:49, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep Yes the writing is crummy needing a rewrite but notability is met here. X ( talk) 13:16, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Casey Childs

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Fails WP:GNG; no WP:SIGCOV; most recently edited by someone with an offensive username. Mvcg66b3r ( talk) 00:02, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Theatre, United States of America, and New York. Mvcg66b3r ( talk) 00:02, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete - I wasn't able to find much information about him, beyond the fact that he's a theatre director. There is a passing mention in a brief Playbill article, which states that he is directing the play, but that was the only source I could find about the Casey Childs that matched the article's description. The other sources were about various different people named Casey Childs. Bandit Heeler ( talk) 03:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment. I object to the fact that the majority of the nom relates to the fact that one of the edits to this article was by User:USAstinks ("most recently edited by someone with an offensive username"). That is an argument to avoid. The user did not create this article, and in fact they made only one of the 65 edits to this article over the last 16+ years. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:42, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I agree with that. While I do believe that the article fails notability, I don't think the fact that one of the (not main) contributors to the article has an offensive name is a relevant point in a deletion discussion. Bandit Heeler ( talk) 03:44, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Perhaps it is not very relevant, but i do agree with the point that there is not enough information about him. Kasphero ( talk) 06:02, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge into Primary Stages. There appears to be a painter called Casey Childs who is more notable per the online coverage. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 20:41, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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