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Africa

Chizo 1 Germany

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An article that lacks the minimal inclusion for bios. Doesn't meet WP:GNG. A WP:MILL. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 10:38, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Hadarou Sare

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The article subject is a non-notable entrepreneur and PhD student. I could not find any reliable sources containing significant coverage of the subject. None of the sources currently cited in the article establish notability: [1] and [2] are interviews in trade publications that read like puff pieces. [3] does not have any clear editorial standards, is based on an interview, and also reads like a puff piece. [4] is a bio and abstract for a talk he gave at a seminar. [5] is an interview with the organizers of the same seminar. [6] is the subject's company's website. [7] is an advertising website. [8] is a slideshow about a project that the subject worked on. voorts ( talk/ contributions) 03:27, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Amélie Chekroun

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Academic biography that does not meet WP:GNG, WP:NBIO or WP:NACADEMIC. Their articles and books are not widely cited and there is no available significant coverage in independent secondary sources. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 13:54, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete clearly fails NACADEMIC (it seems she is not a professor, let alone one of the special types that is presumed notable), and a web search found no significant coverage, independent or otherwise. Toadspike [Talk] 14:53, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Her citation record is not yet strong enough for WP:PROF, I don't see any books that could pass WP:AUTHOR, and her position (chargée de recherche au CNRS) is still pretty junior. Directrice de recherche (the next level up) would be more likely to be notable, although still not something that leads to automatic notability. (A note, though, re the previous comment "not a professor": the French system separates academic researchers from academic teachers more than the US or UK ones do, and she is on the research track. "Professor", in the French system, is the top teaching-track position. But our notability criteria favor research over teaching. So it is entirely possible that she may become notable in a few years despite not being so now.) — David Eppstein ( talk) 17:29, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Nkawkaw Senior High School

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Nothing much to be notable. While I agree with WP:NSCHOOLS, "secondary schools are not presumed to be notable simply because they exist, and are still subject both to the standards of notability, as well as those for organizations." I can't find any WP:GNG or WP:ORGCRITE for a simple article. WP:SIRS already was not enough except for the schools 50th anniversary. A redirect can be kept though at List of schools in Ghana#N. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 16:21, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep This may not be the most influential school in all of Ghana, but it meets the GNG and WP:NORG. See source analysis below. Bgv. ( talk) 08:57, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Source assessment table:
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://www.ghanaiantimes.com.gh/nkawkaw-shs-celebrates-50th-anniversary/ Yes No association with subject known Yes Meets WP:NEWSORG Yes School is the subject of the article ✔ Yes
https://newsghana.com.gh/nkawkaw-shs-lacks-logistics/ Yes No association with subject known ~ Appears to meet WP:NEWSORG Yes Critical article about the school and its administration ~ Partial
https://www.modernghana.com/news/1119989/solution-to-west-african-senior-school-certificate.html Yes No association with subject known Yes Meets WP:NEWSORG Yes Speaks to the school's involvement with a state examination controversy. ✔ Yes
https://www.modernghana.com/news/817913/nkawkaw-senior-high-school-receives-support-from-1992-year-g.html Yes No association with subject Yes Meets WP:NEWSORG Yes Coverage of alumna's philanthropy to school. ✔ Yes
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Bongofari

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Apart from lacking sources to reliable sources, the article doesn't meet WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 16:06, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Aleksandr Surikov (diplomat)

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Fails GNG and NBIO. Recently deceased Russian diplomat. Sources found in article and BEFORE fail WP:SIRS. Source eval:

Comments Source
Government obit, fails WP:SIRS, all the normal obit problems plus the Russian government should not be considered a reliable source 1. www.mid.ru https://www.mid.ru/ru/activity/shots/vnutrivedomstvennye_novosti/nekrologi_pamyati_kolleg/1949977/ . Retrieved 2024-05-13 .
Government decree, fails WP:IS, does not contain SIGCOV about the subject. 2. ^ "Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of July 29, 2017 No. 348 “On the Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the Russian Federation in the Republic of Mozambique”" . Archived from the original on 2019-01-26 . Retrieved 2017-09-14 .
Government decree, fails WP:IS, does not contain SIGCOV about the subject. 3. ^ "Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of February 16, 2018 No. 76 “On the Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the Russian Federation in the Kingdom of Swaziland on a part-time basis”" . Archived from the original on 2018-02-16 . Retrieved 2018-02-16 .
Government obit, fails WP:SIRS, all the normal obit problems plus the Russian government should not be considered a reliable source 4. ^ www.mid.ru https://www.mid.ru/ru/activity/shots/vnutrivedomstvennye_novosti/nekrologi_pamyati_kolleg/1949977/ . Retrieved 2024-05-13 .
Obit based on government sources, fails WP:SIRS, all the normal obit problems plus the Russian government should not be considered a reliable source 5. ^ "Russian Ambassador to Mozambique Died" . TACC (in Russian) . Retrieved 2024-05-13 .

BEFORE found name mentions and government statements they released, and an interview, nothing meet WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth from independent reliable sources.  //  Timothy ::  talk  02:02, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment: First and foremost, lower your tone while nominating the article for deletion. Secondly, government decrees can be used as secondary sources as if you can type the full name in a Russian, many sources will pop up, (in Russian of course), apart from the official government statement. Here's my third point, he is the ambassador to Mozambique, the highest office of any diplomat in office. Would you delete the ambassador of the United States of Mozambique for that reason? Ivan Milenin ( talk) 02:56, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
he is the ambassador to Mozambique, the highest office of any diplomat in office Ambassadors are not inherently notable, several hundred have been deleted. LibStar ( talk) 03:31, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Algeria

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Job Bogmis

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None of the sources used contribute to notability: #1, #3 are interviews, #4 is not an independent source (associated with the team of the University he was playing for), #2 does not show significant coverage. I could not find other sources to fulfill WP:GNG. Broc ( talk) 07:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply

This source "analysis" is infuriating and incorrect... all the sources have secondary coverage ("In Cameroon he spent all day working on whatever he could to help his large family. They had nothing left over. The ball was just entertainment... he has the African presence in his game. Dizzying power and potency... Bogmis has always been a believer, but his faith became more intense during lockdown... he was a figure in the UdeC title in youth football", "Originally from Yaoundé, the capital of the African country... a loan, the difficulties of the climate and language, the desire to return to his country during the pandemic and endless obstacles he had to overcome before his sweet present, the one that has him as one of the figures to follow in the 'B' during this 2022", "The story of Job Bogmis is that of a fighter full of dreams. He arrived in 2019 with three young people from Cameroon. They were all promised heaven, but some were left stranded in Temuco and he was the only one who continued in soccer... He speaks Spanish better and better, he no longer needs a translator", "the cold, the difficulties with the language and the few opportunities left him alone very soon. Today, at 22 years old, he dreams of being recognized for his talent, although his team is in last place in the Primera B standings... plays on the right wing, his pass is worth $200,000 and he was the last victim of verbal violence on the Chilean fields")

the reason the third source is "associated" with the team he played for was because it was from the same city... like seriously? Young player with onoging career in Chilean pro soccer that will definielt get many more sources in his ongoing pro career as well. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 08:33, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply

You are correct. That specific source is not independent. JTtheOG ( talk) 18:09, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep – Per all above. Svartner ( talk) 08:27, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Fails GNG. Far too many quotes in those articles. Claiming racist abuse doesn't give sigcov. Dougal18 ( talk) 09:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
I provided secondary coverage from each source above... If I'm not mistaken, most articles about people are a mix of quotes with secondary coverage... I never said "claiming racist abuse gives sigcov" and even the source about that provides seocndary coverage of him as well as background info and important context... Young player with onoging career in Chilean pro soccer that will definielt get many more sources in his ongoing pro career as well. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 21:19, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Peter Wuteh Vakunta

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Non-notable professor. I can't find a Google Scholar for him; ResearchGate indicates he's only been cited 22 times (which seems too low to meet WP:NPROF). A search for sources only turns up profiles for him and sites hawking his books. — Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 19:39, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment.Although he does not seem to satisfy WP:NPROF, subject may possibly satisfy WP:AUTHOR (C3). I do see a few reviews of published works; not sure if there is enough, though. Qflib ( talk) 00:16, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Democratic Republic of the Congo

2005 Kavatshi Airlines Antonov An-26B crash

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Accident doesn't demonstrate needed notability for an article. Fails the general notability guideline, the event criteria, WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE and doesn't demonstrate any lasting effects. Whilst the event does have coverage (minimal), the majority of them are in french with all of them being short stories. I haven't been able to find any coverage post-2005 involving this accident. Aviationwikiflight ( talk) 12:47, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply

•Keep Yet again another Antonov accident that doesnt fail WP:NOTNEWS, an accident with 11 fatalities is not an everyday occurance. Lolzer3000 ( talk) 14:19, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Just because an event doesn't fail WP:NOTNEWS doesn't mean it automatically gets a keep. No lasting effects were demonstrated from the accident. It has been 18 years since the accident and the accident has not demonstrated any (long-term) impacts. The event does not have significant nor reliable coverage.
Per WP:EVENTCRIT:
  1. Events are probably notable if they have enduring historical significance and meet the general notability guideline, or if they have a significant lasting effect. Event does not fulfill this criteria.
  2. Events are also very likely to be notable if they have widespread (national or international) impact and were very widely covered in diverse sources, especially if also re-analyzed afterwards (as described below). No widespread impact or coverage in diverse sources with no analysis of the accident.
  3. Events having lesser coverage or more limited scope may or may not be notable; the descriptions below provide guidance to assess the event. Event has limited coverage.
  4. Routine kinds of news events (including most crimes, accidents, deaths, celebrity or political news, "shock" news, stories lacking lasting value such as "water cooler stories," and viral phenomena) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance. Nothing inherently notable about this accident even if tragic.
Post-2005, I haven't been able to find any coverage regarding this accident thus failing WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE. Aviationwikiflight ( talk) 15:07, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply
an accident like this is indefinetly going to fail the 10-year test that many deletion authors go by, no accident has continued coverage over 19 years. Lolzer3000 ( talk) 21:01, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
For sure no accident will have continued coverage for over 19 years but an accident should at least be mentioned/ talked about for at least a year especially for an accident with that many fatalities. All news sources are primary sources which means it is impossible to source reliable secondary sources. All news sources only state the circumstances of the accident without any analysis of the accident failing WP:INDEPTH.
The event fails the general notability guidelines as it has no significant coverage and no reliable secondary sources. Aviationwikiflight ( talk) 12:12, 22 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Agreeable here, i can only find a singular source covering it 6 days later, linked below, there is an in depth summary in 2005 in aviation so the general deletion of the article itself wouldnt be a problem because the information is still pertained in the summary.
[13] (the mentioned link) Lolzer3000 ( talk) 16:45, 22 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Egypt

List of conflicts in Egypt

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WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN WP:UNSOURCED (the few entries that are sourced are highly speculative as to what happened, where, involving whom, and why; the modern Arab Republic of Egypt has very little to do with it). Follow-up to

Abbas El-Akkad Experimental Language School

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Delete Fails to meet WP:NSCHOOL. Wikilover3509 ( talk) 15:02, 24 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Hellenized Middle East

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"Hellenized Middle East" is a made-up term which is not used in scholarship on the Hellenistic Period (a search of google books shows a few uses referring to Greek presence in the Near East, but without any consistency [14]: one book on Gandharan Buddhism, a couple on the Middle Ages, one on Cavafy in the 19th century. This is not a term used with any consistency in scholarship). The article consists of a WP:OR map, which collapses Ashokan India into the Hellenistic world and a bunch of material largely mirrored from Hellenistic Period. Furius ( talk) 00:44, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete as WP:SYNTH. Mccapra ( talk) 04:45, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: the main issue here is not the title, but the duplication of material that is already covered elsewhere. The topic itself appears to be legitimate, whatever title it's given, and unless there's a specific title that is generally applied to the topic, any reasonably descriptive title would do. There may well be better titles, but that would not be a justification for deletion: it would justify moving the article to another title. Replacing a map with a more accurate one would not be an argument for deletion. So the only remaining issue seems to be duplication of existing material in other articles.
It sounds as though most of this is covered under "Hellenistic Period", in which case a "technical merge" might be in order. By that I mean a basic review to make sure that any useful and verifiable material from here is included there or at other appropriate articles. If so, then simply indicate that the article was merged there, and then change this title into a redirect, as a plausible search formulation. There may also be some details here that ought to be mentioned in other articles, and aren't yet, in which case a full merge may be done. But even if everything is already fully covered, it would technically be a merge as long as one makes sure of that before changing this into a redirect. P Aculeius ( talk) 09:34, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. WP:CFORK. Poor page with poor and unverifiable sources that do not help identify implications that is explicitly stated by the source. The creator of the page inserted opinion by using content from other pages and used it in a circular bit of logic. Page is WP:SYNTH. RangersRus ( talk) 11:47, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Strange title, bizarre geographic scope, WP:OR and WP:SYNTH content, WP:CFORK.
    • Scholarship on ancient history uses "Near East" rather than "Middle East"; both terms are of course eurocentric, with "Middle East" reflecting Western European strategic concerns during the last years of the Ottoman Empire. Describing much of the area under Seleucid control in the hellenistic period as "hellenised" begs the question of whether that impact was more than superficial and brief.
    • The inclusion of all South Asia is bizarre; the Maurya empire is not usually described as hellenised (and the map shows it extending strangely east and south). Mapping Greece as hellenised is silly.
    • The text largely consists of an editor opining, without benefit of sources, on who became the ruler of which area after the death of Alexander, largely with no more substance than that. Any reader wanting to know about the area during the hellenistic period will be disappointed and frustrated; they will already be better served by Diadochi for successors and by Hellenistic period, including Hellenistic period#Hellenistic Near East, for the regions. NebY ( talk) 14:00, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Jana Amin

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BLP of an activist, deleted at AfD in January and immediately recreated. Notability is not evident to me at all, as the article is a collection of activities which are run of the mill. Mccapra ( talk) 22:20, 22 May 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Keep (with small potential Wikipedia:CONFLICT) as I said in previous discussion. The recreated article removed non-notable information and sources to address previous reasons for deletion, so "it was deleted before" is insufficient reason: this is a new article that should be judged on its own merits, but I still believe the subject has established notability due especially to articles about her in non-English sources. There is a danger of underrepresentation due to Wikipedia:Systemic bias if we insist on more notable English-language sources without recognising the Egyptian coverage as notable. Also, the previous deletion occurred just 8 hours after a single extra delete vote was placed after 3 relistings, so I believed that immediately recreating the article in a form that addressed the reasons for deletion was justified. With regard to Jana's activities being "run of the mill", correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding of Wikipedia:Notability is that it's not up to us editors to judge whether or not a subject's activities are extraordinary in their own right, but merely to summarise what sources are saying if the sources meet Wikipedia's standards of reliability and notability. Hence the question should not be "did Jana do something worthy of a Wikipedia article" but "are sources giving Jana coverage that is worthy of a Wikipedia article". (My possibly-biased opinion happens to be that the answer to both questions is "yes" but if we're supposed to focus on the second then no need to argue about the first.) Silas S. Brown ( email, talk) 16:08, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Comment I’m not suggesting we need English language sources. We need in depth coverage in independent sources in any language. The piece in Elle is an interview where she talks about herself, as is the piece in Marie Claire. Two other sources are authored by her. Now This News is a passing mention. Some of the others have a strong whiff of PR placements. They tell us she works for an NGO, did a TED talk, and attended a lecture by Malala Yousefzai. She hasn’t received a well-known and significant award or honor, or been nominated for such an award several times; or made a widely recognized contribution in a specific field, and isn’t in a Dictionary of National Biography. So what exactly is notable about her? Mccapra ( talk) 21:10, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply
If someone is interviewed by a source, then the fact that the source decided to interview the person might in itself confer notability if that source does not interview just anybody. So I don't think we should dismiss interviews just because they are interviews without also asking the question: how difficult is it to get an interview in that publication? I'm imagining it's not that easy to get into Egyptian Streets and Marie Claire Arabia for example. Silas S. Brown ( email, talk) 07:20, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply

New Capital Sports Hall

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Small sports stadium lacking in depth coverage in reliable independent sources. Mccapra ( talk) 07:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply

I mean that the hall itself is small, not that the sports it hosts are small. As to the sources you’ve provided above, none of them offers in depth coverage of this particular hall. They just confirm it exists, that it seats 7500-8000 people and it’s part of the larger Olympic complex. They are either about the handball matches or about the Olympic city. The sports complex as a whole looks notable and therefore potentially a redirect target, but it doesn’t seem to have been written yet. Mccapra ( talk) 14:14, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, I think the sports hall is good enough with sourcing and notability to be kept here. While Arabic sources may not be the best, they do help fill the gap in sourcing. Old-AgedKid ( talk) 10:26, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment, If the article stays, it should be on the proviso of improving it and adding a lot more to it. Shouldn't stay as 2 lines. MaskedSinger ( talk) 05:28, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
There isn’t really anything to add though, that’s the problem. It’s not an expandable stub. Mccapra ( talk) 15:09, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
nothing at all? MaskedSinger ( talk) 16:46, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Egypt Proposed deletions


Ethiopia

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Amélie Chekroun

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Academic biography that does not meet WP:GNG, WP:NBIO or WP:NACADEMIC. Their articles and books are not widely cited and there is no available significant coverage in independent secondary sources. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 13:54, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete clearly fails NACADEMIC (it seems she is not a professor, let alone one of the special types that is presumed notable), and a web search found no significant coverage, independent or otherwise. Toadspike [Talk] 14:53, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Her citation record is not yet strong enough for WP:PROF, I don't see any books that could pass WP:AUTHOR, and her position (chargée de recherche au CNRS) is still pretty junior. Directrice de recherche (the next level up) would be more likely to be notable, although still not something that leads to automatic notability. (A note, though, re the previous comment "not a professor": the French system separates academic researchers from academic teachers more than the US or UK ones do, and she is on the research track. "Professor", in the French system, is the top teaching-track position. But our notability criteria favor research over teaching. So it is entirely possible that she may become notable in a few years despite not being so now.) — David Eppstein ( talk) 17:29, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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Ghana

Eunice J. Buah

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Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Council of State members are not inherently notable and there’s not enough source to establish GNG. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 19:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Nkawkaw Senior High School

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Nothing much to be notable. While I agree with WP:NSCHOOLS, "secondary schools are not presumed to be notable simply because they exist, and are still subject both to the standards of notability, as well as those for organizations." I can't find any WP:GNG or WP:ORGCRITE for a simple article. WP:SIRS already was not enough except for the schools 50th anniversary. A redirect can be kept though at List of schools in Ghana#N. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 16:21, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep This may not be the most influential school in all of Ghana, but it meets the GNG and WP:NORG. See source analysis below. Bgv. ( talk) 08:57, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Source assessment table:
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://www.ghanaiantimes.com.gh/nkawkaw-shs-celebrates-50th-anniversary/ Yes No association with subject known Yes Meets WP:NEWSORG Yes School is the subject of the article ✔ Yes
https://newsghana.com.gh/nkawkaw-shs-lacks-logistics/ Yes No association with subject known ~ Appears to meet WP:NEWSORG Yes Critical article about the school and its administration ~ Partial
https://www.modernghana.com/news/1119989/solution-to-west-african-senior-school-certificate.html Yes No association with subject known Yes Meets WP:NEWSORG Yes Speaks to the school's involvement with a state examination controversy. ✔ Yes
https://www.modernghana.com/news/817913/nkawkaw-senior-high-school-receives-support-from-1992-year-g.html Yes No association with subject Yes Meets WP:NEWSORG Yes Coverage of alumna's philanthropy to school. ✔ Yes
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Bongofari

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Apart from lacking sources to reliable sources, the article doesn't meet WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 16:06, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Devarishi Dasa Asamoah

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There is no significant coverage in reliable sources. The first source was published by a contributor on a site that doesn't appear reliable. The second and third sources are practically identical, providing nothing about the subject beyond a name drop. This fails to meet the criteria of WP:GNG and WP:NBIO imo. GSS  💬 15:11, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply

The sources used are to establish the subject as a spiritual leader of Hare Krsna Movement in Ghana. Most of the stub centers around this. As the author of this stub, I do not have access to any information on anything else other than this. It may be a little short for a biography, but the beauty of Wikipedia is that another contributor may carry on the work that has been started. Heatrave ( talk) 17:13, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete for the reasons stated by the nominator. BoyTheKingCanDance ( talk) 15:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep: as a stub about a religious leader but invite future contributions on the subject.
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Francis Mensah

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Another poorly sourced BLP with no WP:SIGCOV demonstrated. The best that I can find are Abidjan 1 and Abidjan 2, both passing mentions in Ivorian media. The Feyenoord mentioned is the one in Ghana, not the Dutch team. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:02, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks for restoring it. I'm not going to withdraw this AfD yet as I don't think that it's enough on its own for a GNG pass. The coverage is Fifteen-year-old Francis Joe Mensah is one of the academy's best players, a lightning-quick, technically solid, left back, who can also play left wing. He predicts he will make it in Europe. He says he has no fear of failure. followed by a quote from the subject. I also think WP:YOUNGATH might apply given the age of the subject at the time (the coverage does not seem to be substantial and prolonged). I'd be interested to know what others think. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:41, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - no evidence of notability. One source on its own not enough. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:49, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Kenya

Out of Afrika

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No extensive third-party coverage to meet GNG. LibStar ( talk) 16:31, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Leonard Mbotela

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Doesn't meet WP:NJOURNALIST / WP:ANYBIO. BoraVoro ( talk) 07:06, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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East African School of Media Studies

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No refs on the page for many years. Not seeing sources to WP:V basic details, whether it is a degree awarding institution etc. Possibly sources exist that I'm not seeing but currently per WP:V claims can be removed. JMWt ( talk) 08:37, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Hannah Ryder

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Very questionable WP:SUSTAINED notability Amigao ( talk) 01:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete: Head of a UN Agency might be notable, but sourcing is about the initiatives of this agency, not about this person. I don't find much else we'd use for RS either. Oaktree b ( talk) 01:35, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    the subject worked at a UN Agency as head policy and partnerships. She was pivotal to the Initiative which is why I used as source Gold Junior ( talk) 11:55, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete present version, which definitely does not comply with NPOV policy. "As the chief executive of Development Reimagined, Ryders's Afro-centric posturing is implicit in her reports" - for goodness' sake (and since when is her surname "Ryders"?) Deb ( talk) 08:01, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Hannah is very adamant on Africans developing Africa with win-win partnerships with other blocs. I should have put it this way to underscore this fact Gold Junior ( talk) 12:04, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Are you saying that it was you who wrote that sentence? Deb ( talk) 12:36, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    I have deleted that sentence, but added other coverage of Ryder. And, to be clear, the typo in her last name was my fault. DaffodilOcean ( talk) 12:47, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, though I have edited the article a bit. She is cited in multiple reliable sources in conversations about Africa-China relations, and I have added some of this information to the article. The best coverage of her is here [21], [22], [23]. DaffodilOcean ( talk) 12:50, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Thanks for those. The main problem, as far as I'm concerned, is the undeclared conflict of interest and the original promotional intent. If we keep it, we'll need to ensure it complies with NPOV. Deb ( talk) 13:58, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Sure, though to be clear I have no COI on this article. DaffodilOcean ( talk) 14:43, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • "Keep" I must state that for me I have no COI regarding this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gold Junior ( talk • contribs) 15:56, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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*: </"keep"> this article has been edited to comply to NPOV since it's nomination allied by a declaration of COI from editors in the View AfD the page in its current existence complies with NPOV User:Gold Junior Talk 09:11, 20 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Morocco


Nigeria

Tainted Canvas

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The subject film falls short of WP:GNG, should redirect to the director, Segilola Ogidan. The cited sources are not helpful for establishing notability, as they are promotional pre-release coverage with no independent analysis of the film. Searching online, I was able to find reviews, but only one of them (a negative review in WhatKeptMeUp) appears to be potentially reliable ( [24]); the others include a Medium blogpost ( [25]), a two-person blog ( [26]), an unbylined review from a 3-person blog ( [27]), and a review on what appears to be a social media and PR site ( [28], no masthead, no editorial policies, but there is a Log In button for their "African creatives community"). The film's Rotten Tomatoes entry lists no critics' reviews ( [29]), and it seems somewhat telling that Pulse, which published most of the pre-release coverage, did not publish a review following release. signed, Rosguill talk 20:12, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

ILOT Bet Nigeria

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Not notable bookmaker, fails NCORP BoraVoro ( talk) 11:24, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Baba Ijebu

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Not notable betting company; no reliable sources to meet NCORP BoraVoro ( talk) 11:25, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Dozy Mmobuosi Foundation

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Not meeting GNG; Promo; delete or redirect to Dozy Mmobuosi or BoraVoro ( talk) 11:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Chizo 1 Germany

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An article that lacks the minimal inclusion for bios. Doesn't meet WP:GNG. A WP:MILL. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 10:38, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Aluko Damilola Grand SADG

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Fails WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO. This is literally a non-notable subject, no sources whatsoever to establish notability. Spammy, promotional puffery, this should probably be Speedy deleted. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 19:21, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Oluwadunsin Oyekan

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Non-notable clergy person and musician. There is nothing in this article that satisfies musical notability or general notability. The one reference says that he exists. Existence != Notability. Robert McClenon ( talk) 04:07, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Simon Adozi

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Fails WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. There's not a source that is independent of the subject. Some are WP:ROUTINE coverages which announce him bagging an award, they all appear in exactly copy, verbatim. Others are his opinions, etc. No source can be used to establish GNG here. Some are "Why is did this" and "Why I did that"-ish, while others are "How we're doing this" and "How we're doing that"-ish, which falls under WP:RUNOFTHEMILL. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 14:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply

- Vanguared: Generally unreliable per WP:NGRS
- nairametrics is mostly quotations, considered unreliable
- Youtube is an interview, considered unreliable
- businessday - mostly quotations, considered unreliable
- tmynewspaper - mostly quotations, considered unreliable
- punchng is about his company, with some mentions of him. Not enough to count towards notability.
- Independent - There is enough here to count towards notability. Some quotations. Publication is generally reliable per WP:NGRS.
- Guardian - like the above, good one. generally reliable per WP:NGRS.
- leadership - based on an interview, not reliable.
- Guardian - based on an interview, not reliable.
- thenationonlineng - based on an interview, not reliable.
- The Sun - This is a good article and publication reliable per WP:NGRS.

Summary: I found 3 articles to be acceptable, which in my opinion is barely enough for a keep, so a weak keep is my vote. Hkkingg ( talk) 08:44, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

You clearly do not know what WP:GNG talks about, kindly read that. I don’t want to waste my time on a source assessment. There’s, as a matter of fact, no source that satisfies GNG. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 09:03, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
3 of the sources are from reliable publications per WP:NGRS and have significant coverage. How exactly are these not within WP:GNG? I realize that many of these decisions are subjective, while one person may decide something is a valid source another may not think so. You don't need to argue every person that opposes your nomination. Let the admins be the judge. Hkkingg ( talk) 19:21, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Hkkingg It is imperative that I let you know that if there's anyone to analyse and assess WP:NGRS here, it should be me or any other Nigerian who knows very well about how Nigerian media works, don't be deceived. And again, this is a deletion discussion, and we are bound to argue things out. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 21:22, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Blessing Ejiofor

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Does not appear to pass WP:NBASKETBALL as they do not meet any of the criteria, or WP:GNG as the sources are insufficient to establish that. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 21:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Can I contribute more on this? SusuGeo ( talk) 12:22, 20 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes, of course. Any editor may work to improve articles, even those that have been nominated for deletion. If you can demonstrate that the person is notable for some reason (you can see my reasons for questioning this below), then you might be able to prevent the article from being deleted! Good luck! P Aculeius ( talk) 13:09, 20 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete unless some reason can be keeping can be located. Normally I would point out that the nominator did not mention having searched for sources, as required by WP:BEFORE. However, this is a college basketball player, and the sources in which you would expect her to be mentioned are probably news sources. A quick search just using the "news" tool above appeared to show minimal coverage: university profiles focused on one of their student athletes, and a couple of basketball scores. Certainly nothing currently in the article demonstrates notability: there are thousands of college basketball players, some of whom are notable, but merely being one doesn't seem to indicate notability. I admit to some uncertainty: is it usual for all Vanderbilt Commodores players to have articles, even those who weren't part of the team for very long and who don't appear to have been primary contributors to their team? It's possible that there's some policy I don't know of here, or some other reason for notability I didn't think of, but it isn't indicated yet. P Aculeius ( talk) 13:09, 20 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ P Aculeius Usually the majority of college players don't have an article. The editor in question seems to have been creating articles of players from Africa rather than Vanderbilt players. There is no inherent notability from playing for Vanderbilt or any other basketball team, college teams or otherwise. All players must simply pass WP:GNG. There are some sources below that have been uncovered since your !vote if you are interested. Alvaldi ( talk) 10:15, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Playing professionally would tend to make her more notable, but if the only thing to add is that she's done so, then it may not be enough. I don't discount local sources, but merely being interviewed by a student newspaper, however editorially independent it may be, doesn't confer notability. The question is whether she's done something to bring her to attention at some significant level. For instance, being a major contributor to a championship team, or mentioned (not just in passing, or noting the basketball scores) in news sources with a greater reach than college papers. Sporting figures profiled in national papers or similar sources may be notable. I'm not foreclosing the possibility of notability; just that so far it doesn't seem to be here. P Aculeius ( talk) 14:07, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: This subject doesn't appear to have nearly enough to meet the WP:GNG. I found 1 paragraph of coverage at [ [30]], and the subject was interviewed by 60 Minutes [ [31]]. It is a close call though, so please ping me if more sources are found. This source provides depth but is quite local [ [32]]. Let'srun ( talk) 02:21, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    There is also [ [33]]. Let'srun ( talk) 02:26, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Please note that locality of sources has no bearing on whether they go towards GNG or not. Proposals to discount local sources have been repeatedly rejected in the past. Regarding other sources, This has a few paragraphs about her. There is also this feature in the The Daily Athenaeum. It is the student newspaper at West Virginia University, something we generally don't consider going towards GNG, but it states in its article that it is editorially independent from the university and does not have a faculty adviser. I'm not sure that changes anything. There is also this feature in relations to the 60 minutes interview. Alvaldi ( talk) 09:50, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    It should be noted that since 2022, she has played professionally in Spain and France so there might be some sources there. She is also a member of the Nigerian national team which could indicate that there might be sources about her in the Nigerian media. Alvaldi ( talk) 10:58, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Alvaldi, we have a strong consensus against considering any student papers as contributory to notability, regardless of their editorial independence: However, given their local audience and lack of independence from their student body, student media does not contribute to notability for topics related to home institutions. JoelleJay ( talk) 16:28, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ JoelleJay I've usually never consider student papers being contributory to notability but the part about it being editorial independent cast a few doubts in my mind with this particular paper. Thanks for the clearup. Alvaldi ( talk) 16:59, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    The SI article is not independent and potentially not RS, as it was written by a WVU sophomore for the Mountaineers Now "FanNation" blog section of SI. JoelleJay ( talk) 16:37, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    I assume you are talking about the one Alvaldi posted? I posted a different one above that one. Let'srun ( talk) 19:22, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: in addition to the WP:NBASKETBALL criteria mentioned above, WP:NCOLLATH may be relevant here. However, while the article has some improvements since this discussion began, I still don't see any evidence of notability. The subject doesn't seem to have won any titles or participated in any championships or tournaments of note, and the only details provided in any of the sources describe nothing more than a brief biography focused on her playing basketball at various schools or being a member of various teams or playing in certain places. Nothing that would naturally bring her to national attention, or distinguish her from thousands of other college or minor professional athletes. P Aculeius ( talk) 09:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. based on presented citations 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 this person will meet WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Hkkingg ( talk) 08:52, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Haven't had a chance to look at the other sources, but the first one you posted is from Vanderbilt (the school she played for at the time the article was written), and as such isn't independent. Let'srun ( talk) 14:03, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    +1 to what Let’srun said. Also, I saw these sources you just mentioned before I made this nomination and they just can’t be used to establish GNG, subject already said WP:NBASKETBALL. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 14:29, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Still removing the primary source, we have 4 other sources. I stand by my Keep vote. Again you don't need to protect your nomination and argue every voter that opposes your nomination. this is not a good practice. Let the admins decide. Hkkingg ( talk) 19:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Hkkingg This is not a matter of protecting my nomination (that sounds weird) or whatever, this is a deletion discussion, and this is a matter of letting you know what the policies and guidelines involved really is. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 21:19, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Only one of those sources is independent. The first is from Vanderbilt, the second from WVU recruitment affiliate WV Sports Now (written by WVU students/employees), the third from the Vanderbilt student newspaper, and the fourth from the WVU student newspaper. The remaining French source is routine transactional news. JoelleJay ( talk) 19:49, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Per my above arguments. I don't see the sustained SIGCOV in multiple independent secondary sources to meet GNG. JoelleJay ( talk) 19:51, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep: This subject was covered extensively in this SI cover story from 2020 [ [34]], and while somewhat local this story from the Patterson Times is dedicated to her [ [35]]. Ejiofor was also featured on 60 Minutes in 2020. As such, we have multiple independent, reliable sources providing WP:SIGCOV of the subject with which to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun ( talk) 00:41, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    The SI story is a single event, so we would need sources showing sustained SIGCOV to meet N. The (highly local) Paterson Times source fails YOUNGATH and does not count towards GNG, and the fact she was interviewed on 60 Minutes is also irrelevant as it is not secondary independent coverage. If the only good material we have on her is from a flurry of minor pieces regarding one event in 2020, and nothing else substantial since then, we really don't have an NPOV basis for an article. JoelleJay ( talk) 11:30, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    I have no issue with the quality, significance, or relevance of the sources. My question is, what is the subject notable for? Her personal life doesn't establish notability, and being a member of college basketball teams or minor professional basketball teams doesn't establish notability. Being interviewed by sports magazines or similar sources doesn't make her notable. What is it that elevates her above the level of a good but not particularly outstanding young athlete? Has she done something unusual or important that would still be worth mentioning twenty, forty, sixty years down the road? Right now the only specifics about her basketball career, besides a list of teams that she's played for, are that she scored 28 points for the Vanderbilt Commodores over the course of twenty-two games in one season: an average of 1.27 points per game played. In any given year, there are literally thousands of college basketball players with comparable records. P Aculeius ( talk) 14:32, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Ecko Miles

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I do not see enough evidence to establish WP:NMUSICIAN. Some sources are unreliably having a close connection to the subject, some are WP:ROUTINE coverages announcing founding of Daed Empire, most are PRs, announcing collabo or music release, etc. Fails WP:GNG in a nutshell. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 19:20, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply

keep the subject meets some of the criterias of WP:NMUSICIAN for example the song he had with popular Nigerian rapper and musician charted major charts in the country as was cited in the article , also I would say it meets WP:GNG the sources used in the subject article are in line with WP:NGRS too, after thorough investigations I will say this the subject was not as notable as he was before the collaboration he had with Zlatan and odumodu blvck but that collaboration was what increased his notability and brought him further into the limelight. ProWikignome ( talk) 21:23, 20 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Keep - Meets WP:MUSICBIO due to chart position of his song. Hkkingg ( talk) 00:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Ibrahim Babangida (footballer)

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I've been unable to find if this Nigerian footballer who recently died in a car crash passes WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Duke of New Gwynedd ( talk | contrib.) 10:08, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply

He won the 1993 FIFA U-17 World Championship. Don't delete the article. 186.176.235.73 ( talk) 11:08, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
That has no relevance to SPORTCRIT or GNG Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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  • An ATD is to merge/redirect to Tijani Babangida where he is currently mentioned, not least since Tijani was in the same car crash. Another alternative to deletion would of course be to find sigcov in the Netherlands. Geschichte ( talk) 14:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    He play at the Eredivisie and won the Nigerian Premier League in 1992. 201.206.42.68 ( talk) 01:55, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - I think there's enough coverage of his death, including pieces like this, which show notability. He had 50+ games in the Dutch professional leagues, the issue is searching is skewed to just reports of his death. Giant Snowman 12:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep - Per GiantSnowman. Player with sources and pro career including 50+ appearances in fully pro Dutch league and definitly has more offline sources. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 01:59, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep: Won the 1992 NPL. Sources about this entity are PROBABLY offline plus the sources presented by GiantSnowman. Best, Reading Beans 13:29, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Unique Kings Obi

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Fails WP:GNG or any related SNG. Sources are either passing mention, primary or not independent of the subject. The only sources that give SIGCOV are obviously promotional paid puffs and connected to the subject. The Vanguard piece [36], and the Independent pieces [37], [38] are examples. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 02:06, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Keep: Subject is a notable figure in Nigeria and has enough sources to prove this. The passing mentions for were added to as an evidence to a sentence. The references about the African Creators Summit were also added to evidence the information that he is the founder of the summit Mevoelo ( talk)

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  • Keep - Per WP:NGRS these sources are considered generally reliable: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9. Vanguard is considered generally not reliable, but with all these subject would meet WP:BASIC. Hkkingg ( talk) 08:24, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    If you consider this or this a good source, then I’m afraid you do not know what a good source that is suitable for Wikipedia is. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 09:06, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • delete: Per nomination above. ᗩvírαm7 • [@píng mє] 09:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Aviram7. Why is this a speedy delete? Which WP:CSD criteria does this meet? – Novem Linguae ( talk) 02:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Hey @ Novem Linguae: Hello, I use XFD Partipcaition tool for vote on here, I simple tagged for delete but I don't known how add delete before speedy sentence, and I know all WP:AFD discussion who are currently open they will be closing after 1 Week and I fixed this issue. Happy editing! ᗩvírαm7 • [@píng mє] 05:25, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Sounds good. Thanks for clarifying. – Novem Linguae ( talk) 07:22, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Below is source assessment of the sources cited in this article;
Source assessment table:
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://tribuneonlineng.com/unique-kings-obi-makes-it-top-5-list-of-talent-managers/ No This is more or less a vanity list No Even though Nigerian Tribune is reliable per WP:NGRS, What's journalism without bylines? ~ ✘ No
https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/01/01/championing-collaboration-the-inspiration-behind-the-african-creators-academy/ No This is obvious from reading the piece No Even though This Day is reliable per WP:NGRS,What's journalism without bylines? No This doesn't provide WP:SIGCOV on him, rather on "The African Creators Academy" which in itself is still really not a significant coverage ✘ No
https://www.pulse.ng/business/domestic/nigerian-creative-industry-launches-the-african-creators-summit/xgzd2dd No Pieces from "PULSE MIX" are usually promo puff, paid advertorials etc. No per WP:NGRS No Of course not, this is more or less a coverage on "African Creators Summit" and not Obi ✘ No
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/01/lasisi-unveils-as-host-for-african-creators-summit/#:~:text=The%20organizers%20of%20the%20African,January%2025th%20and%2026th%2C%202024. I will not assess the independence of this source since it does not apply to Obi ~ Publication is marginally reliable per WP:NGRS, but this piece lacks a byline which renders the whole piece useless here on Wikipedia. No Just like Pulse Nigeria above ✘ No
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/01/meet-unique-kings-obi-talent-manager-digital-marketer/ No Obvious paid advertorial, promotional puffery No Ditto Yes ✘ No
https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2023/04/08/the-future-of-the-nigerian-content-industry-a-conversation-with-unique-kings-obi/ No This is an interview published in a way that makes it read like a news piece. The headline says it all "A Conversation With Unique Kings Obi". "When asked about", "Obi points out", etc. No Ditto No This is not WP:SIGCOV on Obi. ✘ No
https://guardian.ng/saturday-magazine/content-distribution-in-the-digital-age-unique-kings-obis-approach-to-reaching-global-audiences/ No Promotional puffery and paid advertorial. No Promotional puffery and paid advertorial. No This is not WP:SIGCOV on Obi. ✘ No
https://tribuneonlineng.com/top-5-talent-managers-nurturing-success-in-entertainment-industry/ No This is a duplicate publication by Nigerian Tribune that I assessed first, so, Ditto No Ditto ~ Ditto ✘ No
https://independent.ng/unique-kings-obi-paving-way-for-digital-talents-to-soar/ No Promotional puffery and paid advertorial. No Promotional puffery and paid advertorial. No Promotional puffery and paid advertorial. ✘ No
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/entertainment/music/211256-okiemute-ighorodje-emerges-winner-mtn-project-fame.html?tztc=1 I am not going to assess this source as it is reliable but does not apply to Obi Ditto No Ditto ✘ No
https://independent.ng/solvent-digital-moves-to-better-customer-service-relationships/ I am not going to assess this source as it does not apply to Obi Ditto No Ditto ✘ No
https://techcabal.com/2024/01/19/african-creators-summit-2024-countdown-to-africas-foremost-creative-workshop/ No Pieces by "Partner" from TechCabal" are usually sponsored/paid advertorials. In fact, this tells the whole story of all the sources used in this article. No Sponsored contents are not considered reliable No This is not WP:SIGCOV on Obi. ✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}.

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Rahaman Abiola

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Fails WP:NJOURNALIST and generally WP:GNG. Sources are either announcing him as new editor-in-chief of Legit.ng, passing mentions or dependent on the subject. Being Reuters-trained, or working with other Nigerian media outlets, etc, isn't a credible claim of notability. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 20:39, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Comment: Even though notability is not inherited, Rahaman's contribution to the media space is evident here as his writings are used as a reference to several Wikipedia articles. As a known journalist, Rahaman is seen working for notable media houses like Legit.ng, Medium, Sahara Reporters, Nigerian Tribune, TheCable, Tuko, YNaija, BusinessDay Nigeria, The Media Online, Dubawa, Business Post Nigeria, The Paradigm and Theindustry.ng as seen on his verified Muck Rack page here. He is recognized by Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siagoddess ( talk • contribs) 22:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Yet, these do not automatically confer GNG or JOURNALIST on him. For the former, there are several journalists whose publications in the media are being used on Wikipedia, that doesn't automatically make them notable. for the latter, these are all his employers/clients, etc, and still doesn't count towards GNG. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 23:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: @ Vanderwaalforces, the entity passes criteria 1 of WP:NJOURNALIST as he is cited as a source for most Wikipedia pages as stated earlier. That alone confirms his notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siagoddess ( talk • contribs) 23:07, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete: BLP. Fails GNG and NBIO. The sources in the article and above do not meet WP:SIRS, addressing the subject directly and indepth. Found material failing WP:IS, and name mentions, nothing that meets SIRS from independent non-promotional sources addressing the subject indepth.  //  Timothy ::  talk  09:22, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Source eval:
Comments Source
Interview, fails WP:IS 1. "Award-winning Journalist, Rahaman Abiola Shares Tips for Creating Quality Stories -". primusmediacity.com. 18 April 2022. Retrieved 2024-04-03.
Routine mill news, fails WP:IS fails WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth 2. ^ Obi, Daniel (2024-03-20). "INMA appoints Legit.ng's Editor-in-Chief Rahaman Abiola into its Africa Advisory Council Board". Businessday NG. Retrieved 2024-03-27.
Routine mill news, fails WP:IS fails WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth 3. ^ Jump up to:a b Ola (2023-04-24). "Legit.ng gets new Editor-in-Chief, Head of Desk". I-79 Media Consults. Retrieved 2024-03-28.
Nothing about subject, fails WP:SIGCOV 4. ^ Toromade, Samson (2023-06-14). "Nigeria Health Watch lands over 250 solutions journalism stories in 2 years". Pulse Nigeria. Retrieved 2024-03-28.
Routine mill news, fails WP:IS fails WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth 5. ^ Mix, Pulse (2024-03-20). "INMA appoints Legit.ng's Editor-in-Chief Abiola to Africa Advisory Council". Pulse Nigeria. Retrieved 2024-04-03.
Routine mill news, fails WP:IS fails WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth 6. ^ Tosin, Alamu (2023-04-12). "Legit.ng Appoints New Editor-in-Chief, Head of Desk and Others". NGNews247. Retrieved 2024-05-09.
Routine mill news, fails WP:IS fails WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth 7. ^ INMA appoints Legit.ng's Rahaman Abiola into its Africa Advisory Council Board.
Name mentioned in list, nothing meets WP:SIGCOV addressing the subjeect directly and indepth 8. ^ "INMA: Africa Advisory Committee". www.inma.org. Retrieved 2024-05-09.
BLPs require strong sourcing.  //  Timothy ::  talk  09:22, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep - Entity featured on notable news websites, held talks on globally recognized platforms for journalist and his works are widely recognized. -- Siagoddess ( talk) 14:00, 22 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete: source analysis from User:TimothyBlue is compelling and my reasonable BEFORE doesn't help. User:Siagoddess is the page creator and I'm not seeing anybody else asserting keep here. BusterD ( talk) 01:06, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: Per rationale by VWF, Timothy and BursterD. Best, Reading Beans 13:25, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Francois Esterhuyzen

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found was this routine news piece and a few interviews in Russian-language media ( 1, 2, 3). JTtheOG ( talk) 20:44, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Inus Kritzinger

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. There are a few sentences of coverage here. JTtheOG ( talk) 19:53, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Martin Bezuidenhout

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG ( talk) 19:42, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Pieter Louw

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG ( talk) 19:37, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Heinrich Steyl

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. Contested PROD. JTtheOG ( talk) 17:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Milo Nqoro

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Redirect to List of South Africa national rugby sevens players as I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG ( talk) 03:26, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Jacques Alberts

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. I'm thinking he goes by a nickname because I found an astonishingly low amount of hits. JTtheOG ( talk) 23:17, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Jean Cook

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found was this transactional announcement. JTtheOG ( talk) 23:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Justin Benn

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG ( talk) 23:19, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Lindelwe Zungu

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. Contested PROD. JTtheOG ( talk) 18:17, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Makoma Mohale

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Check notability by WP:GNGACTOR Claggy ( talk) 22:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete There is no Reliable Sources in the article at all. Untamed1910 ( talk) 03:03, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete WP:CSD by WP:G5. Claggy ( talk) 15:44, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    G5 wouldn't technically apply as they weren't blocked or banned before the article was created (it only applies to block evasion). Also, as the nom you are already counted as having made an implicit bolded delete, though if you have a non-delete proposal (for example, speedy delete) you can do so, though usually you'd add it into the original nom comment. Alpha3031 ( t • c) 15:54, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
I've struck the duplicate vote. I can't see why CSD G5 would apply here. It would also help if you gave a better deletion rationale demonstrating BEFORE had been done before nominating this article. Liz Read! Talk! 01:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Günther Janse van Vuuren

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG ( talk) 20:44, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Education Facilitators

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Potentially ambiguous title. Doesn't appear to meet WP:ORG / WP:GNG. Unreferenced for 14 years. Boleyn ( talk) 16:04, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Jéan Rossouw

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. Contested PROD. JTtheOG ( talk) 20:26, 24 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Cecil Dumond

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG ( talk) 17:25, 24 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Duwayne Smart

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. Contested PROD. JTtheOG ( talk) 17:15, 24 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Josh Katzen

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. Contested PROD. JTtheOG ( talk) 17:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Joe van der Hoogt

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. Contested PROD. JTtheOG ( talk) 17:18, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Schalk Oelofse

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG ( talk) 17:09, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Marlyn Williams

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found was a few sentences here. JTtheOG ( talk) 17:00, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Simon Bolze

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. Contested PROD. JTtheOG ( talk) 16:56, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Tiaan Dorfling

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. Contested PROD. JTtheOG ( talk) 16:54, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Shannon Rick

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG ( talk) 06:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Kieran Goss (rugby union)

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found was this transactional announcement. JTtheOG ( talk) 02:07, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Sampie Mastriet

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. The most I found were a few sentences here. Possible redirect targets include List of South Africa national rugby sevens players and List of South Africa national under-20 rugby union team players. JTtheOG ( talk) 01:49, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply

2007 attack on Emmanuel Mwambulukutu

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Lack of WP:LASTING - unfortunately a lot of violent crime happens in South Africa, not every attack is noteworthy. BrigadierG ( talk) 23:44, 22 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment an attack on an ambassador is more notable than a random attack, but unless there was some lasting impact, I'd probably agree with Nom. 08:47, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete the diplomat may well be notable to have his own article, but not this event in particular I would say. Uhooep ( talk) 14:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Matthys Basson

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found were trivial mentions, both in English and Japanese (search マティウス ・バッソン). JTtheOG ( talk) 22:52, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Joshua Stander

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. I found a few pieces with a handful of mentions ( 1, 2, 3), but nothing significant. There are also trivial mentions in Japanese, which you can see by searching ジョシュア・スタンダー. JTtheOG ( talk) 22:41, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Justin Ackerman

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found were routine transactional announcements ( 1, 2). JTtheOG ( talk) 22:26, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Meyer Swanepoel

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found were routine transactional announcements ( 1, 2). JTtheOG ( talk) 21:35, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Matt More

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG ( talk) 21:30, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Michael Makase

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. Contested PROD. JTtheOG ( talk) 18:51, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Weak delete I procedural removed the PROD on this to allow more time to search for sourcing, given there were 23 PRODs to look through in less than a 48 hour period, and a simple search was bringing up potential sourcing. However, although there is this and a large number of team announcements, there probably isn't enough here to pass WP:GNG, and no suitable redirect per WP:ATD either. Rugbyfan22 ( talk) 18:35, 20 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Tango Balekile

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. The most I found were a handful of sentences here. JTtheOG ( talk) 17:36, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep There's this, this and this found in a simple search. Enough for a GNG pass I think. Rugbyfan22 ( talk) 09:20, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    The first two sources are ok, but are from the same day and about the same topic, while the third source has 3-ish IRS sentences and so is pretty far from being the sustained SIGCOV expected for N. Can you find more sources? JoelleJay ( talk) 16:17, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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1996 South African Touring Car Championship

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Contested draftification. Article is completely unsourced and barely has any content. Also, context is insufficient and leaves a lot to be desired. Editor has created several of these articles, which have only been tagged as "unsourced". I suggest returning to draftspace so it can be improved there. No objection to deletion. CycloneYoris talk! 20:43, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Draftify Article needs work (a lot of it) before it is ready for the mainspace, however the information included can be verified in a number of secondary sources, even if refs aren't currently included. And while I acknowledge its prematurely been moved to the mainspace, based on the date stamps this AfD was initiated within a few hours of the article's creation. There is a reasonable potential that it can be improved. For those reasons I'm unwilling to !vote delete at this stage. Dfadden ( talk) 04:35, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Ofentse Boloko

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. It seems like he is now out of the sport and working in fitness. JTtheOG ( talk) 18:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Alandré van Rooyen

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found was routine transfer news ( 1, 2). JTtheOG ( talk) 23:31, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Week Keep - Found this should pass WP:BASIC

[39], [40], [41], [42]. Otbest ( talk) 19:00, 16 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Hoërskool Noordheuwel

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Previously deleted at AfD in October 2023; insufficient improvement in sourcing to meet N:SCHOOL. Sources are to hyperlocal news sources that read like user-submitted or sponsored copy ("Die kersie op die koek: Hoërskool Noordheuwel is die TOP AKADEMIESE SKOOL in Gauteng-Wes en bekleë ook die nr 5 posisie in Gauteng waarop ons baie trots is"... "The icing on the cake: Noordheuwel High School is the TOP ACADEMIC SCHOOL in Gauteng West and also holds the No. 5 position in Gauteng, which we are very proud of.") or a news site comprising regional high school sport news, not clearing the bar for NORG or GNG. A BEFORE search turns up no significant coverage in independent sources. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 16:56, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Corné Weilbach

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. There's a couple sentences here. JTtheOG ( talk) 20:27, 12 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment Maybe go back to draft and try to look/add more contet here and then resubmit. MaskedSinger ( talk) 07:41, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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Siobhan McColl

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect‎ to 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup. While the !vote count is close, arguments for keep have not provided an argument based on the existence of sources with significant coverage, nor have they rebutted the assertion that information that could belong at "Country X at the 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup" can be incorporated into 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup and 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup squads until such time that sources establishing independent notability can be found. Meanwhile, editors making bolded delete !votes argued against keeping the article, but did not advance any objections to redirecting. signed, Rosguill talk 15:22, 28 May 2024 (UTC) reply

India at the 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup

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These articles are unnecessary WP:CFORKs from the main article 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup, and are not required. We have never created articles for teams at Cricket World Cups before, as they are wholly unnecessary, and just copying content available on other articles, such as 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup and 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup squads. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 08:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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South Africa at the 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Joseph 2302 ( talk) 08:31, 2 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - The following articles would be suitable as in the T20 World Cup, many matches will be played and in these articles, the readers can read the per match summary, team's tournament progression, tournament kit, scorecard, per team statistics and many more of the respective cricket team at a single article, which is not possible to mention at the 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup article. Any articles which haven't been created earlier doesn't mean it is unnecessary, there should be an article to record any team's particular tournament edition journey. Wowlastic10 ( talk) 09:52, 2 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Tournament summaries should be in the main article anyway, which would cover the important matches and information, so a split out for match summaries for every match including the WP:ROUTINE coverage ones is not required. Tournament kit would be WP:TRIVIA, team statistics sounds like it would violate WP:NOTSTATS/ WP:TRIVIA. None of this sounds like encyclopedic content, and just because people create these articles for e.g. IPL teams (which are questionable to do anyway), that doesn't mean they are valid WP:CFORKs for this tournament. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 10:17, 2 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Can we keep it until first week of T20 World Cup? If you feel it useless then also, then you're free to delete it. What say? Wowlastic10 ( talk) 05:41, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    I would be against this, as the onus is to prove that they are valid articles, not keeping in the hope they might be, against any evidence that they'll be anything other than a WP:CFORK with trivia and stats obsessions (like the IPL season articles). Joseph 2302 ( talk) 15:49, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Strong Keep: The concept is basically like India at the 2020 Summer Olympics, where pages like India at the Cricket World Cup are split for every edition. This is infact a very important addition to wikipedia and should be made for all teams having played every ICC tournament. Like the IPL teams, county teams; this is a very valuable addition as each page will contain stuff others cant.
I have been working on similar articles in my private space, but havent published them yet as I want to properly finish the thing before publishing.
@ Wowlastic10 I would encourage you to make similar articles for all editions of the T20 World Cup. Do remove the words ICC Men’s and make it like India at the 2024 T20 World Cup; following the common name process. Furthermore, include national stats such as viewership, tournament stats of players of that country, pictures, quotes, squad information and match details with some description. Pharaoh496 ( talk) 05:14, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Do not rename these as suggested without WP:RM consensus, as the main article is at 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup. Also this comment doesn't address WP:CFORK. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 07:45, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • More squad information such as matches played by each person, caps, etc
  • Proper matchwise description - not there on any other page
  • More information about reaction of said mactches and tournament in the country
  • Place to add pictures
Pharaoh496 ( talk) 19:00, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Information on individual players as well. Pharaoh496 ( talk) 19:02, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
More squad information such as matches played by each person, caps, etc - can be added to squad article, as has been done for some 50 over World Cup events.
Proper matchwise description - only needed for notable matches, not those with routine coverage. This is an encyclopedia, not a fandom site.
Reactions are mostly trivial and unencyclopedic, and any events/reactions that are actually important can go in the main article.
Lots of pictures violates WP:NOTGALLERY
So none of these are a good reason to create these WP:CFORKs. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 15:48, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Redirect/merge to 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup I agree with the nom. I don't see these as being necessary as content for these forks will just be re-hashed details for the main article, and then lists and stats that violate WP:NLIST and WP:NOTSTATS as they will just be random indiscriminate. If a particular team has a 'special' tournament, or gains significant coverage for another reason, then perhaps a fork can then be made, but one for each team is unnecessary, and the comparison to the Olympic articles doesn't wash given how much bigger an event (with loads more events and athletes) than a cricket tournament. We don't have forks for Football World Cup articles for example. Rugbyfan22 ( talk) 09:18, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    But providing more knowledge should be the aim of wikipedia, and these lists provide extra information about the playing nation than the main article. Wowlastic10 ( talk) 10:21, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Per @ Wowlastic10, this can be more than a list, and it warrants an article for each country. If the article does not have unique info it can be merged back. Pharaoh496 ( talk) 19:02, 4 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Yes, that's what I'm saying, thanks for explaining it on my behalf. Wowlastic10 ( talk) 10:37, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    But providing more knowledge should be the aim of wikipedia- true, but putting information into various sub articles so people can add stats trivia isn't the best way of displaying it. We have an article on the events and squad articles, and those are the main 2 things about each team anyway. WP:CFORKs are still not needed. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 15:48, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all. I can see these becoming unnecessary, poor quality, content forks consisting of minimal prose and just scorecards... nothing which can't be included in the main tournament article. AA ( talk) 10:43, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Let this discussion end, i'll again start including all the necessary details Wowlastic10 ( talk) 04:55, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    I dont mean to bludgeon, but this has high chances of not ending up as a mere stub; per my reasons stated above. Each ipl team gets an annual page for its tournaments, as do the english county teams. This will only broaden and improve wikipedia's scope on the matter, considering the quality of cricket articles on here is way down compared to other sports. Pharaoh496 ( talk) 15:34, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    WP:OSE, just because other events like the IPL get articles like this every year (which I don't agree with anyway), that doesn't mean these should too. Nobody so far has demonstrated why this isn't an unnecessary WP:CFORK. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 15:48, 7 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    • How many times a player has played in the tournament - how many matches a swuad member played
    • top 5 batting and bowling averages in the team etc
    • catches and dismissals
    • reaction / outrage / media coverage of tournament and team in said country
    • prizes and awards won by players for performance in tourney
    • explicit knockout stage performances
    I respect your opinion wholeheartedly, but ipl and county teams have existed for long, with some of them featured and good articles. This is an opportunity for editors, who will add more valuable info and like i said, simply broaden wikipedia’s scope. Pharaoh496 ( talk) 07:56, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    None of these things are encyclopedic enough, and no article with them will be a GA or FA if the process for GA or FA is applied properly. County teams don't have season articles and most IPL teams have tables and no prose, which is what these articles are and likely will always be. This is an encyclopedia and not a fandom site. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 13:52, 8 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: It's easy for a visitor to get all the details about their desired team at one place. I'd say we keep the Teamwise articles and should nominate the Squads article for deletion. 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 ( ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 02:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    If the squads article isn't there, and all the fixtures are instead transcluded from the main page; it won't be a WP:CFORK. 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 ( ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 03:00, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    WP:ILIKEIT. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 06:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    It's not what I like, it's a suggestion to improve these articles. Vestrian24Bio ( U, T, A, C, S) 07:01, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Squad articles are a cricket standard for these events, and can be expanded easily. These country articles are not standard or needed, swapping one squad article for loads of country articles is not a good solution. Just because it's the sort of thing WP:IPL would do, that doesn't mean other cricket tournament articles should do that. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 13:03, 10 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Yeah, pretty much the point. Pharaoh496 ( talk) 11:08, 11 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    This is not a deletion discussion about squad articles, that would need a separate consensus (and nominating right now would just further muddy the waters). Joseph 2302 ( talk) 11:02, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete (alternate solution): per nom individual articles for teams' performance at each world cup seems uneccesary. I suggest we have articles for teams' overall record in the tournament and we can have season wise breakdown or details there. Cric editor ( talk) 3:07, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

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  • Redirect to 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup Dowrylauds ( talk) 10:00, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep – Due to the importance of cricket for these countries and the relevance of the competition. The alternative of summarizing the retrospective on all editions of the World Cup by country presented by @ User:Cric editor, is valid and can later transform individual edition articles into redirects. Svartner ( talk) 22:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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South Africa Proposed deletions

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Sudan

Embassy of Sudan, London

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No useful secondary sources. Fails WP:GNG. Only sources are a government list of diplomatic missions and a source purportedly about a protest at the embassy more than a decade ago but which appears unrelated. Previously subject of contested PROD and contested merge/redirect. AusLondonder ( talk) 16:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Assuming the protests aren't mentioned in the main article, there's now something to merge, but the protests were about relations, not buildings. Mangoe ( talk) 13:41, 24 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Pedantically protests can be about buildings (e.g. [43]), but these ones were not. Thryduulf ( talk) 16:31, 24 May 2024 (UTC) reply
I have revised the comment, pedantically. Mangoe ( talk) 21:35, 24 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I've found the source for the protests and fixed the article, so that information is now verified. Thryduulf ( talk) 09:29, 24 May 2024 (UTC) reply


Tanzania

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Uganda

Voice of Life

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Radio station fails WP:GNG and WP:NCORP. No effort in article to demonstrate notability. All sources in article are to self-published/primary sources. No significant coverage in independent, secondary sources, just a handful of WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 02:32, 18 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Polly Namaye

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The first source is a blog, the 5th source is Twitter. Sources 2-4 are dead. Fails WP:BIO. No notability from the roles she has had. LibStar ( talk) 00:30, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete Subject not notable, just known as a police woman. from searches on google she still doesn't meet WP:GNG.-- Meligirl5 ( talk) 10:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Please review improvements made to the article since its nomination.
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  • Keep There is coverage of Namaye in the news, with the three best sources as follows [44], [45], [46]. These articles discuss her career path, her role in the police department, and cases she has been involved with. DaffodilOcean ( talk) 22:37, 25 May 2024 (UTC) reply


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