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I have carried out
WP:BEFORE and added two references to this previously unsourced article about an artist. It has been tagged as needing more citations since 2007. It looks as if it was proposed for
WP:SPEEDY in 2007, for copyvio and promotionalism, but survived. The sources I have added are from local papers and I do not think this person meets
WP:ARTIST or
WP:GNG.
Tacyarg (
talk) 23:52, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Weak delete This article about a
Silent Generation US veteran, small business partner, and painter in the industrial and landscape styles was apparently
written by
his grandson. That same local obituary claims that his collection of 21 military paintings was "highly acclaimed by the military and government officials", yet I couldn't find any mention of this in reports from the time it happened, or any wider notice of his art outside of these 2 entities. His art was displayed in his hometown of
Warwick, New York, where it was featured in town hall, and where he was name-checked as a
member of its art league. Even if more substantial confirmation of the US Capitol displays can be found, I'm not sure the obit claim, or his few illustrated books, satisfy
WP:NARTIST #3 or 4b, or
WP:ANYBIO #1 or 2. StonyBrookbabble 12:29, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete - Coverage is local from the Warwick Advertiser. and the Warwick Dispatch (Warwick, NY).
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The result was delete.
✗plicit 23:28, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete - She has acting credits in several fairly important movies, but always as minor characters. Under both spellings of her name I can find little except basic listings in the credits of those movies, and her music has even less visibility and is only self-promoted in the usual social media and streaming sites. It looks like she's making an honest living in entertainment but she has not received
significant and reliable coverage from journalists. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (
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Delete I was planning to send to Afd out the cat:nn. Its had a note tag for a decade. Non-notable. Never been updated. scope_creepTalk 22:28, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
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Comment Unsure, there is a Spanish book that needs translating that mentions him
[1], there are two newspaper articles that need checking on
[2],
[3], I am not a member of newspaperarchive. But being North Korean, it might be hard to find those sources.
Govvy (
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Helpfully, all three of these sources are saying the same thing. I also don't have a newspaperarchive subscription but you can view the the OCR text by clicking the "OCR" button on the page. Here is the Jasper Dubois County Daily Herald passage (with weird OCR case errors preserved): the International soccer federation suspended North korean an Gil wan for a year for attacking the referee during a game the koreans lost to the soviet Union. The federation warned the entire team As to its future conduct. Some version of this brief squib was carried in newspapers around the world (here it is in a
Cambridgeshire UK newspaper). It could certainly be argued to be of encyclopedic significance, perhaps meriting a mention in
Football at the 1976 Summer Olympics. But since that seems to have been the beginning and end of press coverage of Mr. An, it doesn't really furnish much to build an article out of.--
Visviva (
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me.
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✗plicit 23:35, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Ideally this would be redirected to
Football at the 1976 Summer Olympics where there could be a brief mention of the fracas and An's suspension. But looking at the article I'm not quite sure where it would go, and I don't have the topical expertise to judge if the event is sufficiently significant to include at all. Otherwise there appear to be no plausible redirection targets, so if not redirected, delete. (I am a fluent reader of Korean and anticipated finding something about this fellow but wasn't able to come up with much; the top hit on Naver was actually a word-for-word translation of the EN article, complete with hatnote about Korean name order (!).) --
Visviva (
talk) 01:11, 23 June 2023 (UTC)reply
As a note for anyone who wants to check further, the Korean name should be 안길완 (or conceivably the more common 안길원 if there was a romanization error; that one is shared by some fairly prominent South Korean folks). --
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CommentSimione001, what is your reasoning for thinking the article should be deleted? You should spell out your reasoning in your nomination. As it stands, this will likely be a speedy keep.
MarchOfTheGreyhounds (
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me.
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✗plicit 23:35, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete Sources are databases or not independent, nothing to establish notability.
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Delete couldn't find any GNG-level source. The single source in the article is a bare-mention. Fails
WP:NSCHOOL. -
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Does not appear to be notable; the article only cites a single source, which is simply a listing of a painting by the subject, and I couldn't find any sources establishing notability on Google.
2A00:23C6:880C:E101:F5F5:614A:868:AB5A (
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Comment Completing nomination on behalf of IP editor. Above rationale was copied from one of the several places where the IP manually added discussion sections to various delsort categories rather than transcluding. I have no opinion of my own at this time. --
Finngalltalk 23:16, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment: There is a review of a 2019 performance
here, which could provide some basic verification as a reference, but doesn't demonstrate
WP:MUSICBIO notability.
AllyD (
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Delete. From the article and the editing history, it looks to be an unsourced fan-page (or maybe an autobiography, as it was edited within 5 minutes of creation by an account matching the subject's name). Does not look like a controversial case.
128.252.154.7 (
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Delete: An article authored by a
WP:SPA (who also removed maintenance tags), subsequently also edited by further SPA and IP accounts. Looking at the subject's activities, her music career seems well short of the
WP:MUSICBIO criteria; offering a work for sale on the Saatchi Art site is not notable (and it is not a
WP:RS); no
evidence of meeting the
WP:NARTIST criteria.
AllyD (
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Delete I've searched for sources, and after sifting through all the results for
Amy Odell (author), I'm not finding anything that suggests this Amy Odell meets our criteria for
WP:NARTIST.
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does not cite any sources, my BEFORE serach shows that there are only primary sources i think
Iljhgtn (
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Delete, lack of sourcing, it appears they've closed since 2020. Hits are on any sort of career college/healthcare school in Ohio.
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Delete per above, current article is a stub without sufficient referencing to support notability or encyclopedic quality. -
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Contested PROD, fails
WP:NRU and
WP:GNG. Creator has stated that he has added more sources and is the son of somebody with apparent notability, however notability isn't inherited and none what's added points to significant coverage.
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Delete Nothing found for this athlete, someone connected to the blowing-up of Nelson's column in Ireland with the same name. Could redirect to the club I suppose.
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Started by
WP:SPA, the coverage is based on routine events, like funding rounds, etc. Fails
WP:NCORP.
US-Verified (
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Weak keep The Financial express article is an ok source. This is an article in the Deccan Chronicle
[4], not extensive, but is in a RS, and doesn't mention funding.
Oaktree b (
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Source #9, the rest aren't helpful for notability.
Oaktree b (
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Oaktree b Deccan Chronicle is a press release-type article without any proper byline. It is not what we call significant coverage. Financial Express is a trade publication. We need more than routine coverage to meet
WP:CORPDEPTH.
US-Verified (
talk) 02:46, 23 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete Fails
WP:CORPDEPTH and
WP:SIRS. Looked at the first 11 references. Its all clickbait and branding information to get the thing out there. Very poor quality sourcing. scope_creepTalk 09:52, 26 June 2023 (UTC)reply
The Deccan Chronicle chronicle above is a business name report from the business. It doesn't prove its notable. Its fails
WP:CORPDEPTH. scope_creepTalk 09:55, 26 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete This is a company therefore GNG/
WP:NCORP criteria applies. THe references are all PR and marketing.
HighKing++ 19:19, 27 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete per the explanation above, I can't find any sourcing we can use.
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On 12 June, I mistakenly
WP:bundled this "Iranian" list with a couple of other lists/articles at
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Iranian dynasties and countries. It turned out that they were too different from each other to lump them all together in a single AfD, so I withdrew the nomination. The AfD ended in no consensus, with No prejudice against creating AfDs for individual articles, if desired. So now I'm only nominating the
List of Iranian dynasties and countries individually. (Incidentally, virtually everyone at the bundle AfD seemed to agree that this "Iranian" list should be deleted, but we should judge it anew on its own merits rather than as a part of the malformed bundle.)
Nederlandse Leeuw (
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The list is of value. I don't see an argument of why it should be deleted. Is any part of it inaccurate?! If so, It can be updated? I personally found it very informative.
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The result was keepAndre🚐 20:13, 28 June 2023 (UTC)reply
This is an improper list that rests on a synthetic/original premise. I was trying to figure out what to rename it to or how to preserve the content, but I couldn't come up with anything. I believe this is an original creation and a violation of our guidance on what makes a list. Andre🚐 20:49, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep, borderline speedy. Historically, most judicial nominations have been uncontroversial. These lists convey the range of circumstances that arise where there is some controversy arising in connection with a judicial appointment. Given that the United States has lifetime appointments for federal judges, and that these appointments are made by the President of the United States and must be confirmed by the United States Senate, these are high-stakes issues of broad public interest, and it is perfectly reasonable to document them accordingly.
BD2412T 21:18, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
None of these are called controversy by RS, so it's synthetic. They were contested, but they weren't necessarily controversial. It's a false consistency. Andre🚐 23:36, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Are you saying these were uncontroversially contested?
BD2412T 00:33, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Clearly, the new normal is for Republicans to contest judicial nominations just to be obstructionist and gum up the works. What's the source for it being controversy? A Joe Biden judicial appointment controversy? Why isn't that a total neologism? Andre🚐 01:01, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
For a "new normal", there are a surprisingly small number of names out of the 136 Article III federal judges appointed by Biden.
BD2412T 01:17, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Also note that a parallel rename of all this type of article may be a good idea as "controversies" is a bit loaded. —
siroχo 21:28, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep I agree that a rename would be ideal. "Controversies" is not the correct term. I would suggest "unsuccessful," but I do not think that term is quite correct either. --
Enos733 (
talk) 22:34, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment I previously
removed several listings but was reverted, with discussion begun at
Talk:Joe Biden judicial appointment controversies#What constitutes a controversy?. This article should not be just any instance where any Republican made an objection or mere poor faith partisan politics. Rather it should cover actual controversies treated as such. If it cannot do that by trimming of less significant items, the article doesn't need to be kept. The article should also be trimmed of extraneous procedural details, such as who vacated the seat the person was nominated to and when, since that's rarely relevant a controversy.
Reywas92Talk 02:50, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep. I was sceptical initially but, given equivalent articles exist for the last few presidents (as well as those posted by
Siroxo above, there is also
Barack Obama judicial appointment controversies and
Donald Trump judicial appointment controversies), it seems clear that an article should exist with this title. I would echo
Reywas92's concerns that we need to ensure they're actual controversies, as opposed to bad-faith objection by a small number of opposition politicians in our increasingly polarised age, though clearly that concern also applies to the last 2 presidents also. — OwenBlacker (he/him;
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GiantSnowman 10:05, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me.
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The result was keep. Consensus that individual is notable by virtue of highly significant role, recent in-depth coverage of appointment.
(non-admin closure) —
Ganesha811 (
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Non-notable civil servant, routine mentions in non-RS. Only confirmation of where the individual works. Was tagged for speedy deletion, which was reverted, bringing to AfD for review. I'm not finding extensive sourcing for the individual.
Oaktree b (
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There seems to have been a lot of news coverage of his appointment to head
RAW a couple of days ago, and accompanying background pieces, but I don't know whether it just consists of newspapers reprinting a press release. I really can't be arsed to check, so I'll leave that to others.
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This article was previously deleted:
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Darryl Glenn. Since then, he has still not received consistent, in-depth coverage from national news outlets. Of the 6 cited sources, 2 are election databases and the other 4 are routine coverage of his political campaigns by local news outlets in Colorado. Being a county commissioner and a party's nominee for U.S. Senate doesn't inherently establish notability. Seems to violate
WP:GNG.
BottleOfChocolateMilk (
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Delete city council members are not de facto notable, and failed political campaigns are not de facto notable, and there's nothing showing otherwise.
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Delete The titles have as much notability as their parent promotion - none.
LM2000 (
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Delete non-notable wrestling group. Their championships obviously aren’t notable either.
Dronebogus (
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Delete As nominator and other said. Promotion page that this title belonged was deleted because it wasn't notable enough. Not notable title.
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In the page history, there is an AFD mentioned occurring a decade ago but it looks like it was never completed. LizRead!Talk! 23:04, 28 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete Per nominator. Page of this title promotion is deleted due to not being notable enough thereof same is for title.
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The result was speedy keep. Withdrawing as nominator. The points about the article potentially covering academic discussions/debates of what does and doesn't qualify as a physical system have convinced me.
(non-admin closure) - car chasm (
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WP:DICTDEF, the one cited source admits this is typically used as a term for "an aggregate of physical objects" - and given that this source is not heavily cited, it would appear this is still the majority view.
- car chasm (
talk) 16:31, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep. This term is linked from a lot of articles and is used as a further exploration of a term used in a lot of physics articles. It is not a
WP:DICTDEF; it does not describe its part of speech, pluralizations, usage, etymology, translations into other languages, and so forth. The article can use expansion, not deletion.
RecycledPixels (
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Keep per RecycledPixels! And expand, when I saw how nicely the corresponding
German wikipedia article is written, I blushed. --
Ouro (
blah blah) 17:47, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
German wikipedia has different rules on content, so I'm not entirely convinced, but I've added the references from that article to this one. The one book cited there by
Mario Bunge (who is certainly reliable) says "A physical system is anything existing in spacetime and such that it either behaves or is handled as a whole in at least one respect" which seems like a very generic term to me.
- car chasm (
talk) 18:52, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Because it actually is a very generic term that needs further definition as to its specific properties and (e. g. in case of an open system) any sort of relationship with the environment, in which it is found. Used in
thought experiments a lot. It's as generic as the concept of, say, food. --
Ouro (
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Keep. Common concept in science, engineering, etc. Article clearly needs some love. —
siroχo 20:22, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep The question of what can be treated as a physical system has been much discussed over the years: does a human mind qualify? What about the Universe in its entirety? And so forth. It's an encyclopedic topic. I could be convinced that this would make more sense treated as a section of another article (e.g.,
physics); for comparison, the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy uses the term all over the place but doesn't have an article with that title
[5]. But I'm not seeing a case for outright deletion.
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This article has been around for about 12 years with scant indication of notability. There is one book cited, where he appears to be
mentioned once along with a number of other religious TV programs in Chicago. A google search for
"Rabbi Doug" or
"Taped with... Rabbi Doug" or
"Taped with Rabbi Doug do not come up with significant discussion of the person or the show in reliable sources, the results are social media and notes that such-and-such has appeared on the show. Perhaps it is notable within the Chicago area but I can't see it for a Wikipedia article. ...discospinstertalk 15:45, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment Does Rabbi Doug have a last name? There are too many rabbis named Doug listed in Google to be of help here...
Oaktree b (
talk) 22:00, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. The show's host Doug Zelden is an unremarkable
pulpit rabbi whose congregation
Or Menorah was evicted from a temple building that was sold to another party. Coverage not significant in any way. StonyBrookbabble 14:41, 23 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete - no evidence of genuine notability or in-depth coverage. —
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Delete This is a company/product therefore GNG/
WP:NCORP criteria requires at least two deep or
significant sources with
each source containing
"Independent Content" showing
in-depth information *about the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. None of the references meet the criteria.
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Delete. I think
WomenArtistUpdates summarizes it best thus far. There were some beginnings of a diversified career and early hints at emerging notability. Now he is just a professional. Probably a good one. That does not equal notability.
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Ref 1 is not a
WP:RS. Ref 2 is not
WP:IS, and refs 3&4 are questionably lacking in independence as well. So, fails
WP:GNG.
UtherSRG(talk) 15:20, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
COMMENT It looks like he was one of the three pioneers who brought kajukenbo to the US,
[6] he may also have introduced a notable technique/method called "the Gaylord Method of Kajukenbo",
[7] more research for sources is needed as this is all quite old but if more found a {{Sources exist}} template might work otherwise I would recommend a merge with the
kajukenbo article.
Lewolka (
talk) 11:58, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
The art was created in Hawaii. The article says he was one of the first to bring it to California. The Gaylord method was his self-titled version of the the art.
Papaursa (
talk) 20:13, 24 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Yes should have added continental.
Lewolka (
talk) 19:11, 25 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Redirect to
Kajukenbo. None of the references can be considered significant, independent coverage from reliable sources. However, he is mentioned multiple times in the article on the art and that article contains all the significant information that is in his personal article. Therefore, I'm advocating for a redirect.
Papaursa (
talk) 20:13, 24 June 2023 (UTC)reply
REDIRECT to
Kajukenbo. not enough for standalone article.
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The result was delete.
✗plicit 14:55, 28 June 2023 (UTC)reply
WP:BLP of a poet, not
reliably sourced as passing notability criteria for writers. The article literally just says that she exists without even trying to show any evidence that she has any meaningful notability claims (e.g. noteworthy literary awards, etc.), and its sole "source" is an online bookstore, which is not support for notability at all. I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with much better access to deep American resources (literary journals, etc.) than I've got can find stronger
WP:GNG-worthy coverage about than I've been able to locate on the google, but "the availability of her books in an online bookstore proves that she exists" is not enough for a Wikipedia article in and of itself.
Bearcat (
talk) 14:30, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. No coverage at all for this person. No critical reviews of any kind in Jstor, or Gscholar. No mentions in newspapers, this is about all there is
[8], confirming she read a poem at an event.
Oaktree b (
talk) 14:54, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete - it appears she is also known as Sara Caldiero-Oertli, but on the
Wikipedia Library and particularly ProQuest, I have found various announcements in mostly Utah press about poetry readings, a brief mention of a scheduled reading in Poets & Writers (
ProQuest203609212), and a brief quote in an quote-based piece about a small workshop (
ProQuest1513784208), so it appears there is insufficient support for notability according to the
WP:BASIC or
WP:CREATIVE guidelines at this time.
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The result was keep.
✗plicit 14:54, 28 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment: would feel better about this if the nominator or any of the participants described attempts to find evidence of notability. As-is, the nominator incorrectly attempted to PROD the article, then when multiple editors indicated that there was or might be some notability through academic papers, and that this would at least have to be addressed at AFD, immediately nominated it for deletion, without any explanation besides "Fails GNG". The only other comment literally copied that, and the person who left it didn't bother to sign. This nomination shows all indications of being rushed and perhaps ignoring
WP:BEFORE. At a very minimum the nominator needs to make some attempt to investigate whether the subject could be documented through Google Books and Google Scholar, and describe the results in a non-perfunctory way here. Otherwise this nomination should fail, and the result would be keep.
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The result was delete.
✗plicit 14:55, 28 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Simply is not notable enough for its own mainspace article. There isn't even a
Swifties article, so this is incredibly unneccessary. The whole article can be summarised in one or two sentences within
Taylor Swift, if it needs to be. —
Peterpie123rww (
talk) 14:21, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete The only good sources per the bot are Buzzfeed and People mag. Rest are iffy or not useable. I can't find mentions of this topic in RS. I'd be ok with a selective merge if needed.
Oaktree b (
talk) 14:56, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep What about Jezebel, Cosmopolitan, Them, and Rolling Stone?
Elttaruuu (
talk) 15:28, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
They mention the term but don't talk about it. We aren't a dictionary; we know the word exists but need articles talking about it or the phenomenon it represents, which I don't find. Nice socks btw.
Oaktree b (
talk) 22:03, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep some lesser sources need to be removed, but has notable coverage and passed
WP:GNG — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Justwatchmee (
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Delete Even though certain reliable sources cover this topic, this article easily falls under
WP:FANCRUFT or
WP:RUMOUR, which Wikipedia is not. As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is supposed to cover universal topics and not stuff that only a specific audience is interested in. This topic should be restricted to fandom-specific websites.
Ippantekina (
talk) 16:15, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
I don't even think it merits a sentence on Taylor's page. These 'theories' are mostly gossip and there is no tangible proof. There have been multiple videos of the alleged kissgate incident. One in particular does not show a kiss, but could show Karlie Kloss kissing Josh Kushner just before he was believed to have left the concert. Unless the full story is going to be told, I believe that Wikipedia should refrain from gossip. Any media outlet who printed these stories are doing so for clicks and are well-known for spread gossip, both real and fake from 'sources' often straight from the celebrity's own PR team for PR purposes. Attach Taylor Swift's name to it and it's instant attention and clicks.
Jacklynpaper (
talk) 17:18, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. The Gaylor theory does not warrant an article on its own at all let alone a section of an article. It is not covered in
Taylor Swift (as it should not be! biography articles should not tolerate speculation), but it's mentioned in
Cultural impact of Taylor Swift in a tiny paragraph (sub-section: Mythology and subculture) about the parasocial behavior of fans as per reports by academics and coverage by few reliable publications like Rolling Stone, which is the only reason it's even mentioned there.
ℛonherry☘ 18:53, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Agreed, a paragraph mentioning Swift's impact on the LGBT community and maybe "Gaylors" might deserve a mention in the Cultural impact article, not a standalone article.
Ippantekina (
talk) 04:49, 23 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep - Article content sourced from multiple published newspapers, so why delete?
HarukaAmaranth (
talk) 22:52, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Being cited, but without proof from the artist's PR or management or from the artist herself. The same people who never pen their name to conspiracy articles, dating/drama articles, or attention seeking articles. Speculation doesn't hold up in court. Albeit Wikipedia is not court, but it does have higher standards and is more reliable than many published 'newspapers' who often times only cite 'sources' or a friend said, or in this case, fan speculation/gossip/rumor. Wikipedia runs the risk of being like Reddit, Tumblr, Twitter, Fake information sites or blogs, etc. So that I'm clear, my understanding of Wikipedia is to be a factual informational tool vs the a freedom of speech social media platform. I call for deletion.
Jacklynpaper (
talk) 16:27, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete: There are lots of reasons why I believe this article should be deleted, including the fact that the creator
and author of almost 98% of the page (
Elttaruuu) is a sock, and
just got blocked for a week for vote-stacking. Looking past the editor, the article itself is in direct violation of multiple official Wikipedia policies all detailed at
WP:NOT (namely
WP:NOTDICTIONARY,
WP:NOTGOSSIP, and especially
WP:RUMOUR, since none of the parties involved have confirmed anything). As well,
WP:CRUFT—while not technically an official policy—holds power here as it directly explains why we shouldn't cater to matters that exist exclusively inside a fandom. From a notability perspective, I'm not so sure this meets
WP:GNG criteria, as 'significant coverage' seems to be lacking in the article: most of the sources are just stating "Swift fans believe...", which does not seem all that different than citing the Swift fans themselves, which would not be notable. Overall, I believe that this would be a great article to develop
on the 'Swiftipedia' fandom page or something less serious and more fandom-related; however, I'm confident in saying that this does not belong in an encyclopedia where facts and statements (not opinions and speculations) are of the utmost value. D🐶ggy54321(
let's chat!) 01:47, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. Beyond the fancruft issues, this article is not about the subject it claims to be about. A neutral article on "Gaylors," if one were merited, would be about the fan group itself. This article is almost entirely about that group's theories on Taylor Swift. It is a non-neutral and undue collection of "evidence" that someone's sexuality is different from what they have declared, which disturbs me on a personal level (even if the "intent" by this group is positive). Even if the "events" are cited it should be clear this is original research and is definitely well outside BLP standards.
Dylnuge(
Talk •
Edits) 04:07, 23 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete - It's questionable whether Gaylors have been defined as a coherent group of people by reliable media, and coverage is still so skimpy that they only deserve to be mentioned briefly (and already are) at
Cultural impact of Taylor Swift. This particular article is a disaster for Wikipedia, as it doesn't even describe the group itself but only unloads their unhinged theories about Taylor's personal life. It's nearly an endorsement of pathological obsession, or as one source put it,
pareidolia. The article's content violates
WP:FANCRUFT and
WP:NOTGOSSIP, and this group of fans are not
notable in their own right. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (
TALK|
CONTRIBS) 13:14, 24 June 2023 (UTC)reply
This topic – perhaps the article should be renamed
Gaylor (fan theory) – is notable, widely reported on in reliable sources:
i-D (2019),
Gawker 12 (it was reliable 2021–23),
Rolling Stone,
Sydney Morning Herald,
Salon, etc. Arguments that a fan theory is speculative/gossipy are separate from whether it has been covered in reliable sources. Addressing some comments here,
WP:RUMOR (AKA
WP:CRYSTAL) is about unverifiable predictions and original research, not
notable rumors;
WP:NOTGOSSIP is about
gossip magazine–style minutiae, not the notability of a gossipy, fan fiction–adjacent (
12) theory; and
WP:FANCRUFT is not the kind of essay that can be namechecked without explaining how a relevant guideline supports that label. Keep is my first choice, but if there's no consensus for that, redirect to
Cultural impact of Taylor Swift#Fandom dynamics.
Hameltion (
talk |
contribs) 21:16, 24 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete – During an interview for Vogue in 2019, Taylor talked about her support for the LGBT community saying: "I didn't realise until recently that I could advocate for a community that I'm not a part of". These theories are nothing but weird conspiracy, Wikipedia shouldn't be a space for that. GustavoCza (
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The result was delete.
✗plicit 14:04, 28 June 2023 (UTC)reply
I don't think the subject of this article meets GNG.
He had a relatively successful college career before a brief stint in the pro game. However, I can't find significant coverage, only routine coverage and passing mentions.
MarchOfTheGreyhounds (
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GiantSnowman 10:05, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me.
GiantSnowman 10:07, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
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WP:BLP of an actor and film producer, not
properly sourced as passing notability criteria for actors or film producers. As always, people are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and instead have to show external validation of significance such as notable awards and/or the reception of significant coverage and analysis about them and their work in third-party sources -- but this is referenced almost entirely to IMDb and/or other IMDb-equivalent directories, which are not reliable or notability-making sources at all, and the only citation that comes from a
WP:GNG-worthy media outlet is just a film casting announcement that glancingly namechecks his existence without being about him in any non-trivial sense, which means it isn't enough to get him over GNG all by itself if it's the only GNG-worthy source in the mix. Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have stronger referencing than this, and the article has been tagged for possible
WP:UPE to boot.
Bearcat (
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Delete per nom. Little to no coverage in independent reliable sources.
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The result was delete.
✗plicit 14:06, 28 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Preposterous claim to notability.
TheLongTone (
talk) 12:34, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete Wanting to set a record is perhaps notable after you actually do it. There is no coverage of this individual, chef or otherwise. Appears PROMO.
Oaktree b (
talk) 12:53, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
I mean there is coverage
[9] in a RS, but it's a "get to know the person" article, very much celebrity fluff. Coverage is all similar.
Oaktree b (
talk) 12:55, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. I was thinking
WP:BLP1E before I did my source search. I found sources covering the original record attempt, plans for a second record attempt, and articles about needing bodyguards, so a bit more multi-dimensional of a person than I was expecting. But sadly these news articles seem quite
WP:ROUTINE. They are lacking depth. For this reason I do not think she is currently notable. –
Novem Linguae (
talk) 13:08, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete - this is not the Wiki Book of World Records.
Hilda Baci is notable for other ventures; this chef attempting to break her record is not.
‡ El cid, el campeadortalk 16:30, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete this one actually made me chuckle. Doesn't even get near notability.
Nswix (
talk) 02:09, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. Clear
WP:BLP1E/
WP:BIO1E. I don't see coverage of this individual outside of the context of that single event, so a standalone biographical entry is advised against. And, that event is
non-notable, so I don't see any good place to redirect this to or merge this with. For those reasons, deletion is warranted. —
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The result was keep.
✗plicit 14:07, 28 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment as far as I know, if a topic is notable a list of that topic is notable. Paramilitaries are definitely notable, so shouldn’t this be notable? I’m not actually voting “keep” because I suspect the real reasoning here is that the list looks like crap and will almost certainly never be improved to a usable standard, so
WP:TNT and
WP:IAR could easily apply.
Dronebogus (
talk) 17:43, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep per
WP:TIND. The list does at some points feel incomplete, of varying standards and what not, but a lot of lists on dynamic topics (and paramilitary organisations tend to come and go as they are formed, engage in conflict and are wiped out, or offhand information might simply be lacking) tend to be incomplete by definition. --
Ouro (
blah blah) 18:02, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep This is a valid information and navigational list. Links to plenty of articles for paramilitary organizations. Would be better if there were columns for information like the start of the Asia section has right now.
DreamFocus 00:00, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
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No notability nor reliable sources; only passing mentions and kind of promo materials
Edit.pdf (
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Keep, there are enough sources to be considered
notable for a rather short article, and I can’t find any of these “passing mentions” the nominator is talking about because the references used in the article are all independent of her and talking about her in whole, not just a passing mention. Have you looked at the references before nominating? FatalFit |
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
CycloneYoristalk! 09:15, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete Very think attempt at notability with ref stacking. I can't find extensive coverage of the person in RS.
Oaktree b (
talk) 12:56, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. The coverage in the Dhaka Tribune articles does not meet SIGCOV (what is "World University of Leadership and Management"? their website is a shell) Other coverage seems to be primary sources, or otherwise insignificant. Not sure if this is of note, but none of the articles are attributed to authors. —
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Keep. Somewhat famous event that has inspired case studies
[10][11] and is referenced in reliable sources with regards to stock prices and branding eg
[12]. The event is famous on its own and would not necessarily be appropriate for merge into any
Philip Morris-related page. There's already a citation that has SIGCOV. Event is famous enough to demonstrate
WP:PERSISTENCE. Seems like a perfect invocation of
WP:NOTPAPER. —
siroχo 09:44, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep it's still taught in business schools, plenty of examples in Gbooks.
[13]. It's even mentioned in History Channel
[14].
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Fails
WP:GNG and
WP:NBIO. All of the sources in the article are either passing mentions, are too short, or are written by him. I couldn't find any reliable sources for the article. JML1148(
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Delete per nom after reviewing sources. —
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The result was delete.
✗plicit 14:12, 28 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Vanity page, no mention of this "critically acclaimed" philosopher's work anywhere. The book reviews at the bottom are from what appear to be pay-for-review sites, so this article also does not meet
WP:AUTHOR.
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talk) 07:30, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete after some investigation, no way to verify, notability guidelines not met. —
siroχo 10:48, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. Searches for the name mostly turn up other people with similar names. Searches for the publications turn up enough to verify existence but not significant coverage by reliable sources. Notability is not demonstrated. Seems promotional. Author is pretty much an SPA. --
DanielRigal (
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Delete. I find his books in Gboks, some mentions of a professor in 1972 with the same name (but the subject here would be 9 yrs old). Having other best-selling authors on the NYTimes book list like your work is fine, but "famous people liking my work" is notability-by-association. I couldn't find critical reviews of his works, or much of anything really.
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Redirect to
Seremban#Retail, where this mall is mentioned, with thanks to Siroxo for the idea. Couldn't find any
WP:GNG passing coverage. Found some passing mentions in travel guides. –
Novem Linguae (
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Does not pass
WP:NASTRO. All you can say about this is the same thing you can say about any minor planet, some numerical parameters from a database and a brief blurb about its namesake. NASTRO explicitly states "if a minor planet has received an official name from the Committee for Small Body Nomenclature, this does not necessarily mean that object is notable". Its subsection
WP:DWMP states "For asteroids numbered above 2000, if an article of questionable notability is found, and a good-faith search has failed to locate references establishing notability, then it is appropriate to redirect the article to the corresponding list of minor planets, keeping the original categories and {{DEFAULTSORT}} information." I did this (both the good-faith search that failed to locate any in-depth publications about this minor planet and the redirect) but my redirect was reverted, so here we are. For exactly the same reasons, I am also nominating
9119 Georgpeuerbach and
9097 Davidschlag. —
David Eppstein (
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If the arguments don't hold up, we have to wait for a space probe mission ;-)
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Hello David, sorry i am from europe and i have some troubles with tecnical english. Can you for me summary in the case for 15955 Johannesgmunden the problem?
We long ago agreed not to have articles on all asteroids. We only have articles on asteroids with some particular historical significance (numbered less than 2000) or those for which we know an unusual amount of information (for instance those that have been visited by space missions, or that have been studied closely and individually in other ways). I see no evidence that these three asteroids are in any way unusual. —
David Eppstein (
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Hi David, yes i agree, the histroical significance is very important, but do not forget, in particularly "9097 Davidschlag " is the first asteroid after a break of 73 years, which discovered 3 austrian (amateur) astronomer´s "Erich Meyer, Erwin Obermair and Herbert Raab in this place.
Adding information - it was Johann Palisa in 1923 (i think it was 996 Hilaritas or 1073 Gellivara), who discoverd the last "austrian minor planets" before.
Hauptgürtel (
talk) 08:08, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
I added some historical facts about Johann Palisa and last austrian asteroid discoveries.
Hauptgürtel (
talk) 10:28, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Novem Linguae Thanks for your feedback - i think it is (WP:NASTRO criteria) criteria 3 - source you can find here (Austria Press Agentur - Net Science-Week vom 26. Jänner 1996- second article)
[15]https://www.sternwarte.at/erfolge.html
it describes a long historical descovery break for asteroids in time and place in austria.
Hauptgürtel (
talk) 13:09, 23 June 2023 (UTC)reply
How is that "multiple non-trivial published works" with "significant commentary"?
Lithopsian (
talk) 13:57, 23 June 2023 (UTC)reply
For all three minor planets, shape models are available (with the corresponding images shown in the articles). Creating a shape model requires long series of photometric observations over several oppositions of the objects, so I would argue that there certainly has been significant "study beyond refining its orbit". Note that for most, even lower numbered minor planets, no shape model is available. For
9097_Davidschlag, the fact that it was the first discovery in 70+ years made in Asutria, adds further, historic significance. --
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Delete per nom after checking sources —
siroχo 10:53, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete more Nigerian PROMO. Nothing beyond fluff coverage for this person in the sources, or that can be found elsewhere.
Oaktree b (
talk) 15:17, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. 3 advertorial sources and an interview. Does not pass
WP:GNG. They are not independent.
WP:ADMASQ. –
Novem Linguae (
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Keep or help improve please or move to draft: Greeting friends, this article has been marked for AFD, and I have tried to improve it to my best capacity so that it wouldn't be deleted. I have even asked other contributors in my community to help out with the improvement. Kindly help me improve as this is just my first article and i would like to learn more about how Wikipedia works. thank you alot.
Engrdrizzy (
talk) 13:50, 23 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Hello @
Engrdrizzy, and welcome to Wikipedia. Unfortunately not all articles are
notable. Notable means they pass our rules about what subjects can have their own page. It looks like the sources used in this article were not high quality enough. That is a hard problem to fix, since better sources may not exist for this topic yet. Anyway you are welcome to keep looking for high quality sources and adding them to the article. But the sources need to be independent (no interviews, no
advertorials) to pass
WP:GNG. Hope this helps. –
Novem Linguae (
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Delete Per nominator and others. Doesn't even come close to meeting notability.
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My reason for submitting 2023 Reddit API controversy as an article for deletion is that the subject is already covered in the Reddit article.
I don't think this event as a standalone article meets WP:GNG.
1keyhole (
talk) 05:06, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep. Passes GNG.
[16][17][18] Has been in the news for a couple weeks now, so is showing good signs of eventually passing
WP:PERSISTENCE. The article
Reddit has 10 paragraphs about this, and the subarticle
2023 Reddit API controversy has 18 paragraphs and is likely to grow, so a
WP:SPINOUT here seems reasonable. –
Novem Linguae (
talk) 05:36, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep. Agree with Novem Linguae above. Additionally, note that Reddit is a huge topic and other sub-topics have grown their own articles such as
r/place,
r/IAmA, etc. —
siroχo 09:13, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
This event is very different from r/place is a repeated event and r/IAmA is a perment fixture.
1keyhole (
talk) 10:40, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Speedy keep: This event has stand-alone notability and passes GNG, with plenty of sources.
Reddit's article is already over 200k bytes. There's no need to shove it back into that bloated article; if anything,
Reddit needs to be split further. I would argue for a procedural close here, as this really should be a merge request instead of an AFD discussion based on the nom, as this article is over twice as long by bytes as
Reddit#2023 API changes; I'm not a fan of the giant AFD banner on what could easily become a heavy-traffic article when deletion is barely supported by the nom (if this did not meet GNG, the !votes would be for merging, not deletion). Skarmory(talk •contribs) 10:08, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep: Clearly seems to pass GNG. — Czello(
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The topic fails to fullfill
WP:GNG and a standalone article is not viable. However, the content should be merged in
Rajput clans, as it is a clan of Rajputs and information regarding it should be there. -
Admantine123 (
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Merge. Did a "search inside" of the 3 book citations in the article for the word "Baruwar", didn't get any hits. If I am missing something, consider adding page numbers to the citations. Did a Google News and Google Books search for "Baruwar", didn't see any promising sources. Based on what I just checked, I think the topic likely does not meet
WP:GNG. –
Novem Linguae (
talk) 05:52, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Many such Dictionary items are created on Wikipedia, which donot contain reliable sources to back them. It should be merged in
Rajput clans.-
Admantine123 (
talk) 09:44, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge. I found that they have 4 citations, but didn't get any results. I found no results on Google News.
CastJared (
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FYI — Barwar (caste) (
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talk |
history |
protect |
delete |
links |
watch |
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views) exists and is older than this one but duplicates content; might need histmerge or just merged alongside this one if that's the way it goes. Stumbled upon it
via a CSD request. Feel free to nominate it too; I didn't dig too far into either article. --
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The result was delete. The substantial analysis of citations indicate that there is not a PROF pass here.
SeraphimbladeTalk to me 06:19, 29 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Subject fails
WP:PROF. Sources on the page are primary and I cannot locate any reliable secondary sources to show he qualifies under
WP:GNG.
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Thanks for the ping. I see papers he has written but to satisfy 1a, his papers would need to be highly cited. I do not see that here. If we created pages for anyone who has written a scholarly article, we could be creating profiles on just about anyone in his field. --
CNMall41 (
talk) 15:19, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
8 papers with more than 100 citations apiece, and 13 with more than 50, isn't a level attained by just about anyone.
XOR'easter (
talk) 15:32, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment. The papers he's first author of only have around 100 citations. The papers where he's not first author have around 450 citations. No Google Scholar profile. Unsure, so I'll sit this one out. –
Novem Linguae (
talk) 06:01, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep: There are several cited papers using Google Scholar.
CastJared (
talk) 12:26, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Several is not "highly cited." --
CNMall41 (
talk) 15:19, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete - The two keep !votes have failed to address the nom.'s point that this academic fails to meet the policy criteria in
WP:NPROF. The guidelines clearly say in the summary: Having published work does not, in itself, make an academic notable, no matter how many publications there are. Notability depends on the impact the work has had on the field of study. This notability guideline specifies criteria for judging the notability of an academic through reliable sources for the impact of their work. There are 8 criteria in NPROF, and an academic meeting any of the 8 criteria will be deemed notable. I cannot find that this subject has met any of these 8 criteria, so correct and consistent application of policy is required, thus delete.
Sirfurboy🏄 (
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My understanding is it is common and acceptable to use multiple highly cited academic papers to pass
WP:NPROF #1. This can be difficult to judge though because the cut-off for each academic field can be different. In this case the academic field is computer science. My impression is the NPROF AFD regulars have an idea of what the cutoffs are for each field. The papers and citation counts provided
here hint to me that this person may pass
WP:NPROF #1, but it is in borderline territory. If citation counts or first author counts were higher, I think this would be an easy keep. Hope this helps. –
Novem Linguae (
talk) 07:53, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
So yes, citation count can help establish if The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources. Who is citing the paper and where is more important than the count though. In this case, I do not see how this comes close to meeting #1 of the NPROF criteria. Pertinent here is that not a single Wikipedia page on any topic talks about him and his work. If he is not significant enough for a mention in any article, this may be a suggestion that a page on the subject is undue (that is not an established criterion - it is my observation, which is that there is insufficient evidence of an encyclopaedic subject here). A friend of mine reported yesterday he had just received his 1000th citation on one of his papers - yet I would hesitate to say that he is notable outside of his specific academic field, and not notable for an article per NPROF. The citation count here is too low to meet criterion 1.
Sirfurboy🏄 (
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No, notability is not determined by whether Wikipedia happens to cover a person's work yet. All that means is that hobbyists futzing around in our spare time haven't written about it so far. You're correct in saying that it's not an established criterion; but it's not even a criterion that could ever be workable in principle.
XOR'easter (
talk) 15:28, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Weak keep per
WP:PROF#C1. On the one hand, Google scholar does show some eight publications with over 100 citations each, which should normally be enough for
WP:PROF#C1 even in a high citation field. On the other hand, there seems to be nothing of note beyond the publications. The recent NP=RP debacle
[19] and the fact that almost all of his recent publications listed by DBLP
[20] are in journals by MDPI and Wolfram do not inspire confidence. And the high-citation publications are mainly with
Imrich Chlamtac, who is much more clearly notable. —
David Eppstein (
talk) 01:22, 23 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment - Seems borderline.
Here's the scopus profile.
User:JoelleJay, this might be a good case for your in-field citation script? My intuition is that this prof is below the median R1 citation count & h-index for their career stage, so unlikely to meet NPROF#1.
Suriname0 (
talk) 16:03, 27 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete - Based on the citation data provided by JoelleJay, I don't think he meets NPROF. In the absence of other SIGCOV (couldn't find anything myself, but their might be some Hungarian-language coverage from his time teaching their), I recommend deletion. No obvious redirect targets.
Suriname0 (
talk) 22:27, 27 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment. Thanks for the ping, Suriname0. Here are the Scopus citation profiles for all 76 coauthors with ≥25 papers (out of all ~140 coauthors, the average # of papers is 112!!! and the median is 31), excluding a couple high-citation people whose Scopus profiles seem to have been merged with another author's.
I don't think this demonstrates the exceptional citation record necessary for a C1 pass, and this is reinforced by his publishing in MDPI, so I would recommend delete.
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Redirect. No sources in article. Google News and Google Books search not turning up anything promising. Not enough content in article to justify a merge. Does not appear to pass
WP:GNG. –
Novem Linguae (
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Support per nom. It does not cite any sources.
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The result was delete.
✗plicit 03:51, 28 June 2023 (UTC)reply
The article states that Kristin Hedger is a candidate for office and a businesswoman. Hedger would not qualify under
WP:POLITICIAN. Only under certain circumstances would a candidate qualify for an article based on their candidacy either as their candidacy has some sort of notability to it (e.g.
Lar Daly for his use of the "equal time rule") or are candidates who qualify for reasons independent of their candidacy (e.g.
Joe Exotic). Hedger as the "youngest to be a statewide candidate for public office anywhere in the United States during the 2006 election cycle," does not reach the level of Daly and her business career does not meet GNG let alone the level of a Joe Exotic,
Cynthia Nixon, or another GNG qualifying person who happened to also be a candidate for office. This will be added to deletion streams for politics, North Dakota, and business among others.
Mpen320 (
talk) 03:33, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete "Young person ran for office, lost and got job." Just a regular working person at this point, I don't see any further coverage for her.
Oaktree b (
talk) 15:21, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
This is about all the coverage I can find, could likely be her, but nothing for notability
[21]. Still a !delete.
Oaktree b (
talk) 15:22, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. Can't find any sources that pass
WP:GNG in article or on Google. Having never been elected to office, does not pass
WP:NPOL. There is no election article to redirect to. –
Novem Linguae (
talk) 23:49, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete: fails GNG and NPOL, there's only really two sources in the stub (disregarding the image referenced?) and one is only a passing mention. Schminnte (
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Delete non-notable political candidate.
SportingFlyerT·C 09:48, 26 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete - Consensus seems clear, but lending further support to an argument for deletion on the grounds discussed above. —
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Scant evidence of notability in the article, sources available online are not in-depth, not not passing, and independent.
Bremps... 03:15, 14 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep there are a few decent sources such as an AllMusic staff written bio
here and a piece from Radio France
here, and this
here, imv
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Keep. Per Atlantic306's three sources. Those appear to pass
WP:GNG. –
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The article doesn't demonstrate notability nor meets the minimum bar to firstly presume inclusion per
WP:BIO and
WP:N. After researching more of what's out there, he is at best a minor academic and war advocate.
Saucysalsa30 (
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Weak keep. He is obviously a prolific commentator but in depth sourcing about him isn’t particularly easy to come by. I found
1,
2 and
3 and similar.
Mccapra (
talk) 05:28, 28 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Thank you. I was hopeful the links would help demonstrate GNG but they do not unfortunately. They achieve the opposite effect. I assume Google Translate is not too bad for this.
1 is not a reliable source and says very little about him. Basic bio info and looks like a contributor profile.
2 is someone's blog and most of the content is condemning the US occupation of Iraq. All it says about Al-Khafaji is that he left the "occupation administration".
3 is a basic record information on a paper he wrote. At best the links tell us he exists, but do not help with GNG to presume notability and beyond that do not help make the case for notability and inclusion.
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Delete per Salsa's observations and nomination. The sources stated in this AfD aren't eligible for GNG in my opinion, as well as the ones already existing
Karnataka (
talk) 16:42, 12 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment. As this AfD heads towards the end of its second week, I have two observations.
A lack of interest in this subject both through editing and this AfD.
The one vote says "Weak keep" but makes a strong case for deletion citing difficulty in finding any "in depth sourcing" and providing 3 links that are nothing close to in-depth sourcing. All 3 are non-RS, 2 barely mention the subject's name saying almost nothing about him, and the other is a very short contributor profile on a media site.
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Weak delete, despite Twinkle1990's excellent work. I'd say that the
2003 interview and profile constitutes an item of in-depth coverage, but there isn't much else to combine it with to support a BLP-compliant article. (And to address a question that perhaps nobody but me was asking, I'll note in passing that while I am generally not a supporter of AFD's ill-considered tradition of ignoring persuasive authority from other Wikipedias, in this case
ar:عصام_الخفاجي appears to have been translated from EN in 2020 and so its existence doesn't really reflect independent editorial judgment that we could learn from.) --
Visviva (
talk) 02:28, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. Does not appear to pass
WP:NAUTHOR or
WP:NPROF. All the sources in the article and mentioned in this AFD have various problems, including appearing like personal websites/blogs so unreliable, not containing significant coverage, being an interview so not independent, or being written by himself so not independent. Therefore, this individual doesn't appear to pass
WP:GNG. No merge or redirect targets come to mind. –
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The result was keep.
✗plicit 01:37, 28 June 2023 (UTC)reply
All universities, colleges and schools, including high schools, middle schools, primary (elementary) schools, and schools that only provide a support to mainstream education must either satisfy
the notability guidelines for organizations,
the general notability guideline, or both. For-profit educational organizations and institutions are considered commercial organizations and must satisfy those criteria. (See also
WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES)
Sources
Yin, Yin Fei 尹菲; Han, Xinhui 韩欣惠 (2020-11-06).
"择校直通车:邂逅近30年校史的北京市私立树人·瑞贝学校" [School selection through train: Beijing Shuren-Ribet Private School has a school history of nearly 30 years] (in Chinese).
Sina Corporation. Archived from
the original on 2023-04-15. Retrieved 2023-04-15.
The article notes from Google Translate: "Beijing Private Shuren Ruibei School (formerly known as "Beijing Private Shuren School") was established in 1993. It is one of the earliest private primary and secondary schools in Beijing and has a school history of nearly 30 years. The school has kindergartens, primary schools, junior high schools and high schools. It offers 15-year bilingual excellence courses, international experimental courses, and artistic creativity courses. It also enrolls Chinese and foreign students. ... The school is co-founded and led by university professor Wang Jianchao, the former principal of the Experimental Primary School of Beijing Normal University, the former principal of the High School Attached to Renmin University, the former principal of the High School Attached to Tsinghua University and other well-known domestic principals and educators. Since 2006, it has maintained the joint management of Chinese and foreign principals."
The book notes: "One illustrative case is that of Beijing Shuren-Ribet Private School (北京市私立树人•瑞贝学校), established over a decade ago as a collaboration between Beijing Shuren Private School and Los Angeles Ribet School. The school offers preschooling to Year 12 education. It has a Chinese and an international section, both of which accept international students and students from Mainland China. The goal of the school is to educate intellectuals trained in both Chinese and world cultures. The international section, called the American School, is unique in that it aims to prepare students to progress to an American educational setting and then into the U.S. college and university system. Study in the American School is essentially an American curriculum program, conducted in English and using American textbooks for grade-level course work based on the North Carolina EFL guidelines and on California state standards. The school evaluates students using the comparable American high school standard. The American School's program does not aim to take students to the level of graduation, but to place them in an appropriate sister school in the United States (or other Western countries as appropriate) to complete the last 2 to 3 years of high school."
No, the tone of the article is entirely promotional and written as a school profile for a career fair hosted by the company. (Translated)".....the "Sina 2020 International School Autumn and Winter School Selection Tour Exhibition (Beijing Station)" sponsored by Sina EducationChannel will be held .....
Beijing Private Shuren Ruibei School will participate in this exhibition. Next, follow the editor to learn about the private Shuren Ruibei School in Beijing"
Partially, Sina is generally considered to be a tabloid/low quality.
No, only provided a brief introduction, for promotional purposes.
Comment The characterization of #2 is incorrect. "One illustrative case is that of Beijing Shuren-Ribet[...]the last 2 to 3 years of high school." is a long paragraph about that school's United States curriculum division. That would qualify as
WP:SIGCOV. As for the first source, it is true Sina (which itself is the newspaper) sponsored the event, but the writing seems to be independent of the school itself (so long as the school did not sponsor the article or pay Sina). As for relatively tabloidy newspapers, they may be OK if the topics are not biographies of living people, medicine, etc. Honestly, though, Changing Schools in an Era of Globalization is much stronger.
WhisperToMe (
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While source #2 is a long paragraph, it is still only a single paragraph, which essentially only introduces the fact that the school uses the US curriculum. As no further analysis is offered, I maintain that this source does not fulfill
WP:SIGCOV.
33ABGirl (
talk) 13:55, 12 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Let's look at the text of source #2: "The international section, called the American School, is unique in that it aims to prepare students to progress to an American educational setting and then into the U.S. college and university system." (I added emphasis to show the author is using deeper analysis, and in my opinion it does fulfill WP:SIGCOV).
WhisperToMe (
talk) 02:49, 13 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep - SIGCOV demonstrated in Changing Schools in an Era of Globalization, and there would be no reason that a comparable Chinese language source would not exist.
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Redirect to
List of schools in Tongzhou District, Beijing. Sina source is unreliable
per an RFC, and a possible advertorial. The School Privatization book's coverage of this topic is only one paragraph, that is a tad below my threshold for
WP:SIGCOV. The youth.cn source might pass
WP:GNG if it's not an advertorial, it has enough
WP:SIGCOV. Overall, probably not enough GNG-passing coverage. –
Novem Linguae (
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The consensus in the discussion you've linked is that Sina is an aggregator, and reliability must be judged based on the original source. —
Mx. Granger (
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Keep I agree that Changing Schools in an Era of Globalization constitutes SIGCOV. As a somewhat scholarly book the information within that paragraph is pretty densely packed confirming a lot of basic information and offering a deeper understanding of what makes that school "interesting". It's not as long as, say, a newspaper article, but it conveys as much information as a good medium length article generally would. —
siroχo 04:22, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep per Siroxo and also per Cunard's outstanding work above. I think that SIGCOV has been adequately demonstrated. In addition, a Google Books search suggests that Changing Schools is not a one-off and that there are
other moderate-depth sources in Chinese. (And although I am in no position to evaluate them, that one at least is from a publisher whose books are fairly widely cited on EN.) The ZH article in this case also appears to reflect an independent judgment that the subject is article-worthy, which is certainly not decisive but should weigh in the balance as an independent perspective. --
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The result was delete.
✗plicit 01:32, 28 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. Unsourced. Google Books and Google News search didn't turn up anything promising. Appears to fail
WP:GNG. Not a suitable title for a redirect because the title erroneously contains the word "kalyanpur" at the end. –
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The result was redirect to
List of schools in Germany. Without adequate references cited, the "keep" !votes ultimately failed to prove that this school is notable.
✗plicit 01:40, 28 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Article does not meet notability requirements. The German article also does not seem to contain much in the way of notability per English Wikipedia requirements.
-Asheiou (they/them • talk) 13:05, 6 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep. Quite a lot of sources on the school, seems to meet WP:GNG.
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✗plicit 00:48, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Redirect to
List of schools in Germany. I checked and translated all the articles on the Google News link given above
[22]. The 7 non-paywalled sources had no
WP:SIGCOV. The 3 paywalled sources, judging from their titles and first paragraphs, had various problems.
One article talked about how the school was fighting school bus accidents by sending pupils to a "bus school" for safety training (not sigcov of the gymnasium).
One article talked about appointing a new headmaster (
WP:ROUTINE). Overall, I'm afraid I am not convinced these sources meet
WP:GNG. –
Novem Linguae (
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Reluctant redirect per Novem Linguae. I would be happier about this if we had a better target; the
List of schools in Germany entry contains no information not already present in the page title. Once again we are victims of our success in driving away the dedicated content editors who could have maintained better coverage of schooling and education on the regional/city level. But keeping a free-standing article doesn't really seem to be in the cards; there just isn't much to work with here. Notably, the DE article on the school is much more substantial but mostly uncited (and the sources it does cite aren't really SIGCOV material), so doesn't provide much help here. --
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The result was delete.
✗plicit 12:21, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
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✗plicit 00:42, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete The only sources that I could find are either primary OR school databases. -
MPGuy2824 (
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Delete. Unable to find
WP:SIGCOV in Google Books or Google News. A promising looking book, Education in Kanpur, states in the "about this edition" section "Please note that the content of this book primarily consists of articles available from Wikipedia or other free sources online." One possible redirect target,
List of schools in India, appears to only accept created articles. Another possible redirect target,
List of educational institutions in Kanpur, only accepts colleges. –
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The result was delete.
✗plicit 00:39, 28 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Note: In India, Intermediate college or inter college, is the equivalent of a school with grades 11 and 12. This is borne out by the text of the article. The target that you suggest seems to include only (the more normally defined) colleges, and universities. -
MPGuy2824 (
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Thanks for the info. I can't find a good redirect target then. Changing to delete. –
Novem Linguae (
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Delete This is the sole source
[23] i came across during my search, and unfortunately, it does not meet the requirements set by NSCHOOL.
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The result was delete.
✗plicit 00:32, 28 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. Searches online and in the Virgin Islands Daily News turned up nothing more than passing mentions. I also searched for coverage about his time at Indiana Wesleyan but found nothing significant. --
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GiantSnowman 15:21, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me.
GiantSnowman 15:21, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete per the reasons cited above.
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