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I don't think Native Languages .org is a reliable source for information about the languages or even their phonologies. The site doesn't cite authors or source so it is basically impossible to verify the information there. The information you added to Natchez language was no in accord with the more reliable source by Kimball. So basically I don't think it is helpful to add links to native-lanugages.org or to use those sites as a source of information for articles. If you need I can generally point you to better sources for a given language that you are interested in writing about. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 07:55, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
The best sources on Western Apache phonology are these:
A youtube video made by some speaker is not real source.
But, more importantly, the video doesnt actually say what you claim it says. The video is merely a recording of a wordlist. It has no phonetic/phonological analysis associated with it.
Additionally, you are misinterpreting the spelling system. Historically, these languages don't have any voiced stops. And not only that – these phonemes actually don't have any voiced alternations either. Unfortunately, in Athabaskan linguistics (including Navajo and all Apache languages), the symbols b, d, g, dz, dl, j are used to represent the unvoiced, unaspirated (plain/affricated) stops. And, the spelling systems follow this practice. It's weird, I know. But, that's the way it's been for around 90 years.
But, it's even worse than that. Some languages have recently developed voiced phonemes. And, the traditional writing doesn't have a way to write these sounds. The White Mountain Apache dialect of Western Apache is one of these languages. It has a voiced /d/ that corresponds to /d/ in Plains Apache and to /nd/ in the San Carlos dialect of Western Apache as well as the /nd/ in Chiricahua and corresponds to /n/ in the Dilzhe'e (Tonto) dialect of Western and the /n/ in Navajo, and so on. (It goes back to proto-Apachean/proto-Athabaskan.) De Reuse writes this as an underlined d. Interestingly enough, this change in White Mountain may have happened pretty recently since it was not noted by Harry Hoijer in the 1930s (although he worked mostly with the San Carlos dialect) and he didn't note it for Jicarilla although /d/ is noted for Jicarilla since the 1990s.
Anyway, all this is why you should consult linguistics sources instead of amateur websites or youtube videos. I know it's not necessarily easy to even find that these sources exist. I suggest that you consult Marianne Mithun's The languages of native North America if you are going to continue to do this. One of the best things about this book is the very extensive bibliography it has. You should be looking up the references cited by Mithun. Now, Mithun is not going to have everything, but she will point you in a better direction than just googling websites. As for Apachean languages, you are just lucky that I happen to know a lot about this family and can point you to the best materials (and I happen to poking around on wikipedia these days). – ishwar (speak) 05:26, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused by your changes in the article Lushootseed. The conventions for phoneme tables are as follows: If a phoneme is marginal (occurs only in a few words/loanwords and/or a few dialects), it should be in parentheses. If it is an allophone, it should not be in the table but explained in a footnote. If it is neither, it should not be marked as all entries in the table are assumed to be phonemes. Please see English phonology and other phonology articles for examples. Thanks. Catrìona ( talk) 14:11, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
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I have found errors in all of the phonologies that you have provided that I have checked, some of them so bad that I had to remove the entire section since I didn't have time to reconstruct it. You have received a lot of advice and helpful reminders to use reliable sources for your edits, and to make sure you include exactly what is in the sources. If you continue inserting poorly sourced and erroneous information into Wikipedia's articles on languages I will have to ask administrators to block your account. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 07:40, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
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I just received Spiik's Lulesamisk grammatik. Let me know if there are anything specific you would like me to check in it. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 11:46, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Check if there is a phonology section of the book. You could probably fix the phonological information if the one on the Wikipedia page is not as accurate. Or you could (if you possibly can) send me copies of the pages via my email (frankiedomanico597@gmail.com). If you cannot find anything, that’s fine. Fdomanico51997 ( talk) 20:10, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi, could you explain this reversion? I can't spot any obvious problems. You should have given an explanation in the edit summary. — Eru· tuon 01:07, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
The phonological vowel chart was defomed, so I fixed it a bit Fdomanico51997 ( talk) 01:50, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
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Hi. I reverted your recent addition to this article. At first I thought it might belong at Central !Kung, though it's difficult to know without a cited source. On closer look, though, it seems to be a melange of dialects rather than any particular phonology. If it is Central !Kung, and you have a source to support it, it would make a nice addition to that article.
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@Kwamikagami Yes those basically were just all of the !Kung dialects combined, and not that specific either. The source I found was able to display the phonological information for Central !Kung (Grootfontein !Kung) so I was able to make that addition. Fdomanico51997 ( talk) 02:22, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
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Okay, so I spent a very long time separating the various phonemes into their own cells. It took me hours and hours and hours. I have just noticed that now there are perhaps up to three phonemes in one cell. It is not clear which of them are phonemes anymore. Especially Middle Cornish palato-alveolar fricatives. Which now reads 'ʃ [ʒ~dʒ]'. Now, is that ʃ, realised as [ʒ~dʒ]? Or is it two phonemes, /ʃ/ and /ʒ~dʒ/?
^ ^ ^ Please answer this question, it is very important ^ ^ ^
Similarly, it is much more important that we can see that /m/ and /mː/ are separate phonemes in Middle Cornish than that the tables look 'much better and more organized' (to whom, one might ask...)
That was the whole point of what I did - to give each ***phoneme*** its own box. Now they are all messed up again when I did not know how to separate them properly. It is now ambiguous, and makes me want to cry. Tewdar ( talk) 15:07, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
I put the old ones back. Please, if you think there should be changes, go to the talk page and we can discuss it. Tewdar ( talk) 15:37, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
/m/ and /m:/ are SEPARATE PHONEMES IN MIDDLE CORNISH
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY STOP 'FIXING' THE TABLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tewdar ( talk) 17:52, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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Hello, if you have some time, can you check the edits by 175.223.23.204 at Chokwe language, Luchazi language, and Khwe language? The IP has engaged in vandalism and I'd like to know if these recent edits are legitimate. Thank you. Nardog ( talk) 00:55, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Please stop edit warring and start discussing on the talk page. The decision to get rid of the voiceless diacritics was made after a thorough conversation, as you can see on the page. Nardog ( talk) 23:55, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi Fdom5997! I have seen you have reverted a recent unexplained edit in Natchez language, and admonished the editor about his "messing around". Well, any kind of edit is fine, if well-sourced and well-explained, so I have added a friendly, but "orange-colored" reminder for that editor to use edit summaries.
Why I'm here: at least in the case of Natchez, the other editor was actually not totally wrong, and most likely acted in good faith. In all published descriptions of Natchez that I can look up at the moment (Haas 1956; Kimball 2012,2013a,2013b), the "stop" phonemes are listed as: /p/, /t/, /c/, /k/, /kʷ/, and /ʔ/. Kimball adds [ts] as phonetic realization of /c/. Now, obviously, [ts] is not a stop in IPA, so a strictly phonetic table will have to treat it the way we presently do in Natchez language. But if the sources actually only tabulate phonemic systems, shouldn't we then follow the paradigms given in the sources, and make necessary phonetic explanations (such as /c/=[ts]) within that framework without altering the orginal grid? Just a thought. – Austronesier ( talk) 11:41, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
@ User talk:Austronesier I see what you're saying, and yes I do accept using the phonemic transcriptions, but as long as we are noting the phonetic transcriptions along with it. So then yes, it is totally fine using transcriptions such as "/phonemic/ [phonetic]". But they must be used at the same time. Fdom5997 ( talk) 22:20, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
I reverted your edit to Bernie Bro where you said the allegations of racism and sexism are false. This is not something that can be proven false, and with millions of Sanders voters there are bound to be some racists and sexists in there. There have been definite incidents of Sanders supporters harassing others, and even if they don't make up a large proportion of his base, they have been noted by the media. Your edit also violated WP:NPOV.— Naddruf ( talk ~ contribs) 01:09, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
Yes that is true. And there also was an inequality between women and men being paid in 2016 as well. Bernie had come and apologized for this and addressed this in January 2019. Fdom5997 ( talk) 03:56, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
Well yes it did happen. I do admit I am a bit biased. Fdom5997 ( talk) 05:05, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
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In the Irish phonology article: /info/en/?search=Irish_phonology Why have you modified slender R to be represented by its less common allophone? The reason given seems to be that allophones should be noted seperately, but every other phoneme in the phonemic chart is represented by the IPA of its primary allophone, e.g. broad L. Why should Slender R be any different?
That is because, [ɹ̝ʲ] is its phonetic symbol. The phonemic symbol is transcribed as /rʲ/. Fdom5997 ( talk) 17:22, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
Where? In Celtic studies papers and books on Irish phonology the phoneme is usually given as /r'/, see The Irish of West Muskerry or any of the DIAS dialectology monographs. How is /ɾʲ/ its phonemic symbol when it's explicitly saying it is a palatalised tap? Look at broad L it is given as /ɫ̪/ which explicitly gives its realisation. 64.43.132.47 ( talk) 22:57, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Swahili_language&oldid=prev&diff=980392505 I removed the reference since it was a 404 not found page. No use keeping dead links around, and reverting it makes no sense. It should either be replaced with a correct link if you know of one, or another source which supports the same claim. Since I'm not aware of any of those, I marked it as citation needed, so someone else can do that. But dead links are just clutter. Smashhoof ( talk) 08:36, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
I reverted it because it was only a dead link. Unless it is archived somehow, somewhere, then it could potentially be reverted back Fdom5997 ( talk) 08:39, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
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/ś/ does flow between [ɕ ~ ʃ] and how do i know this? because ima native speaker, so you dont believe a native speaker huh edit: its the same in all the southern dravidian languages
There is no source cited to prove that though. Fdom5997 ( talk) 00:07, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
Sorry but which part of it is "false"? AleksiB 1945 ( talk) 02:34, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
/ts/ does not exist in Malayalam Fdom5997 ( talk) 03:43, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
[1] AleksiB 1945 ( talk) 04:07, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
tat-samayaṁ not tatsamayaṁ Fdom5997 ( talk) 04:20, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Hey,
you keep adding the approximant [w] as a phoneme in the Qaqet article. I assume you follow Parker & Parker (1974).
I am currently in the process of reworking the Qaqet article based on Hellwig (2019). Prof. Hellwig has done years of fieldwork documenting the Qaqet language, and her grammar is by far the most comprehensive one yet. I am working for Prof. Hellwig in her project on child-directed speech in Qaqet, so I have a lot of experience with first-hand Qaqet language data myself.
The 2019 grammar does not list /w/ as a phoneme of Qaqet. The sound does surface in Qaqet words, but Hellwig analyzes it as an allophone of /u/ (and, accordingly, /i/ has a consonantal allophone /j/). There are good reasons for this analysis. First, it fits the syllable structure better: the maximal syllable in Qaqet is CCVVC, as in sɽiam; if you admit the semivowels as true consonants, you would have to expand the syllable structure to CCCVC. Also, there is free variation in the realization of these semivowels, between secondary articulation of the preceding consonant and true diphthongs; so kua can be [kua] or [kwa]. Of course, these matters are always a source of contention. But, in any case, if you do include /w/ in the consonants proper, you would have to include /j/ as well.
I would really appreciate it if you explained your reasoning behind /w/ being a phoneme, or else refrained from undoing my changes to the article.
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I italicized the tsh because that phoneme doesn't appear in the chart, and I wanted someone else to correct it. Reverting my change doesn't solve the problem. Sdiabhon Sdiamhon ( talk) 12:54, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
I corrected it because it was incorrect according to the source. It is not a palato-alveolar sound [t͡ʃ], it is an alveolo-palatal [t͡ɕ]. Fdom5997 ( talk) 17:54, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for making the correction. Should the /ts/ allophone also be retroflex like its voiced counterpart? 2806:102E:18:314D:A50F:2242:88BE:D507 ( talk) 21:15, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi. I recently edited the phonology on the "Turkmen language" article and you seem to be redoing all of my changes. In fact, I believe this is the second time you're doing this and there has been no reason for either of those. Why are you doing this? Sheppik ( talk) 05:58, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Sheppik I am simply doing it because the phonological information is inaccurate and does not match the correct source given. Fdom5997 ( talk) 22:32, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
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Again? [2] The other user may be wrong in their approach, but they're not a vandal. – Austronesier ( talk) 20:17, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
I was under the impression that the table lists individual phonemes and that allophones are in the bullet list below ([ ŋ does not change the meaning of a word), not that the table lists most common sounds and the bullet list - less common ones. Austronesier seems to have that impression as well. And I see that you prefer the table to be inconsistent in two more ways. Anyway, I'm an introvert so huge that the trill exchange in Talk:Lithuanian phonology caused me to have digestion problems and your revert without explanation had me holding back tears. I won't be making any more edits. Pat yourself on the back for taking the trash out. 37.157.147.100 ( talk) 09:18, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
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Hei Fredom! I just wanted to know why you reverted the edits on Nenets language, since they adhered strictly to verifiability, and most language articles that don't have a seperate article on "Grammar of X language" feature grammatical information beyond phonology. So, would you rather want there to be an article "Enets grammar" instead of including the relevant information on the "Enets language" article? Nice work adding the information to different language articles! Best, Dont-you-love-it-when ( talk) 02:43, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Wjy did you undo several edits, including a bot edit, with no explanation in your edit summary? ― Qwerfjkl talk 06:08, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
I did leave an edit summary, while I was fixing the Phonology section that had been hijacked. Fdom5997 ( talk) 06:12, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi, Fdom 5997. Recently in the page of Marathi phonology, you added the IPA sounds ɪ and ʊ back into the 'Vowels' table. While I do thank you for re-adding the template I added in the table, I suggest removing the two symbols mentioned, as they do not appear in the Marathi language, unlike Hindustani. Furthermore, as the symbols aren't mentioned in the rest of the article, they seem unnecessary, or out of place.
Sincerely, SomePacifisticGuy SomePacifisticGuy ( talk) 07:59, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
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i think it is a good idea for all mayan languages to have the same order of the phonological chart. because if i want to compare i could be able to copy-paste it but as you reverted it i would have to sort it instead of easily comparing it. so i don’t think it was unneccessary to put the phonological charts in the same order.
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@ Gtmnsa well guess what, not everything revolves around what you “personally” prefer. Fdom5997 ( talk) 00:42, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi Fdom5997, just a little unsure what you meant in this edit. Not a problem to me if you do not think the brackets appropriate, but I became really confused by your edit summary that went along with their deletion: I did not think brackets (these) indicated either /phonemic/ or [phonetic] "occurrences". I was merely trying to follow the pattern used in the table of distinguishing allophones. You'll have to bear with a very rusty transcriber; it's been years and years. Can you enlighten me? AukusRuckus ( talk) 11:36, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Sounds in parentheses are either allophones or [marginal]") However, I see what you mean, and also better understand Fdom5997's ES. Thanks for taking the time. AukusRuckus ( talk) 13:27, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
I see that you have taken it as your new hobby to revert my edits. I hope you're enjoying so far. However, such petty edit wars cannot continue on a site like this. You asked me for a source for the new phonology chart, and I provided one - a legitimate document about the structure and phonology of Dogri from a government-sponsored institute which documents the languages of India. Yet you refuse to accept it. Your 'source' is incorrect. Dogri doesn't have the open back unrounded vowel 'ɑ'. it has an open central unrounded vowel 'ä/a:', like Hindustani (refer to Hindustani phonology). The Eternal Wanderer ( talk) 03:47, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
/ks/ IS a phoneme in Blackfoot, and you removed it without reason. There were already five sources for its inclusion when you removed it.
Got it, my bad. Fdom5997 ( talk) 01:08, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
The Linguist LL ( talk) 22:20, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
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Just wanted to understand your edit to Rusyn language#Vowels. The modification I made to the chart brings it in line with what is presented in Pugh 2009 (and is itself a translation) from the Rusyn Presov standard grammar, Василь ЯбурАнна Плїшкова - СУЧАСНЫЙ РУСИНЬСКЫЙСПИСОВНЫЙ ЯЗЫК (2009), pg. 10.
Are "Front-Central" and "Central-Back" nonstandard terms in linguistics? Let me know! -- 💬 KaerbaqianRen 17:20, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
Sidenote: the source I included does not apply to the reverted version of the table.
Hello @ KaerbaqianRen, to answer your question, those terms are typically not standard terms when explaining the articulations of vowel sounds in linguistics. I believe that what Pugh meant to say was that they were more centralized rather than "front central/back central". I actually do have Pugh's same publication, but I was just simplifying it in that it is rather confusing because Pugh does not use the exact phonetic transcription to display the vowel sounds in his publication. I also just want to let you know that I may revert the vowel section back because I put down that note to prove that those vowels pretty much are phonetically centralized, as Pugh (2009:24) has stated as "front central/back central". Fdom5997 ( talk) 09:34, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
Please excuse my erroneous edit, likely a mistaken rollback or revert caused by my fat fingers, hypnagogia, or one of my ridiculous cats. I have likely self reverted or noticed the mistake after you corrected it. Again, my apologies. Thank you. EvergreenFir (talk) 19:42, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
Hi Fdom, I nominated Levantine Article for FAC. As you're interested in linguistics and Palestine, I thought you could be interested in reviewing this nomination. Thanks for any help you can provide. A455bcd9 ( talk) 08:48, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
There is no need for the bold text in those boxes. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Text formatting#Boldface. Also there is no need to link Canada as per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking especially What generally should not be linked. The link link at "Language family" shows as Eskimo–Aleut but links to Eskimo–Aleut languages on the next line linking [[Eskimo language|Eskimo]] is just a redirect to Eskimo–Aleut languages. Not useful for the reader. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 21:37, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello, Fdom5997!
I just noticed that you have edited the term "Jin Chinese" for several times. As a Jinnish reseracher and second speaker, I'm really appreciate it. Due to some reasons my first language is Standard Mandarin, although I am native to Shanxi province. Still, I have been learning & researching Jinnish for 8 years and discovered some unique features which most "experts" neglected or ignored such as 孃母(nr-) — a unique feature discovered by a friend of mine 5 years ago. If you are interested in Jinnish language or Mandarin. I'm glad to tell you anything you wanna find out! And finally, Because Jinnish is quite unknown in the western world, I have decided to make some videos about it in the next few months! Plz contact me by telegram or email My telegram https: t.me/JinnishResearcher My Email: kanjibanzai@gmail.com Tsingnywiki ( talk) 03:33, 3 May 2022 (UTC) |
@ Tsingnywiki Well thank you very much for your kind words and your knowledge of the Jin Chinese dialect here! I am very fascinated in general linguistics from any language across the world. And I decided to display the information on the phonology, because I believe that one of the key subjects to study in the field of linguistics, is the pronunciation of both languages or dialects. I came across many different sources that displayed the phonology for the dialects of Fenyang and Taiyuan, the more represented of the Jin Chinese dialects. I find it interesting that there are several different dialects of Chinese, and how each dialect may differ in regards to grammar and phonology. If you could add more to the grammar section based on your knowledge, I'd love to see it! Fdom5997 ( talk) 04:00, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
If 'tl' etc. are not affricates, does that mean they are laterally released stops? Not sure what the IPA for them would be, if only 'dhl' is an affricate. Also odd that the one "affricate" is voiced -- wonder if that's allophonically a fricative. Otherwise, what's the difference between "dl" and "dhl"? (Please ping.) — kwami ( talk) 08:35, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
Okay, I'll change them to unambiguous lateral release.
We don't indicate other allophones, and the slight adjustment of the nasals and mid vowels is trivial, so best covered in the text with the rest.
For the supposed dental nasal in -nqunta 'kiss', could that be a nasal click? Quite odd for a language to have clicks but no nasal ones. — kwami ( talk) 17:51, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
If you want allophones, add the allophones listed in the source. If you don't want to do that, then don't. But don't try doing both at once. I'll keep reverting until you follow the source. — kwami ( talk) 17:04, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
I can't find any section in the grammar of Belloni that uses I.P.A. transcription for this sound. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Moreover, I can add a list of academic literature of Venetian linguists that clearly transcript the sound as (AND ONLY AS) [e̯]:
1. Zamboni, Alberto (1980): Veneto. Pisa: Pacini.
2. Ferguson, Ronnie (2007): A Linguistic History of Venice. Firenze: Olschki.
3. Tomasin's article "elle evanescente" is already in the bibliography of the Wikipedia page - Tomasin, Lorenzo (2010), La cosiddetta "elle evanescente" del veneziano: fra dialettologia e storia linguistica (PDF), Palermo: Centro di studi filologici e linguistici siciliani.
For these names (and obviously Cortelazzo) there is a continuous cross referencing in academic literature about Venetian, Belloni I never heard of and I've never seen cited his name anywhere in academic papers.
There is no difference between "word initially and elsewhere" - it's also not correct. It should be "word-initially and intervocalically" /l/ > /e̯/.
That only in the case that we don't have a /e, i/ sound around, there it gets deleted altogether i.e. telefono [teˈɛfono] "telephone".
Hence i.e. luna [ˈe̯una] "moon", la cola [e̯a ˈkɔe̯a] "the glue", but vardarla [vaɾˈdaɾla] "looking-her". Or lezar [ˈɛzaɾ] "to read" but par lezar [paɾ‿ˈlɛzaɾ] "for reading".
So obviously the transcription of one of the most famous Venetian words gondola should be [ˈɡoŋdoe̯a], [ˈɡoŋdoa] or [ˈɡoŋdola], but surely not [ˈɡoŋdoɰa].
I need you to tell me exactly where you deduce the transcription [ɰ] for these words. Thank you.
(PS. Zamboni has phonetic transcriptions of recordings for every Venetian variety in his monography).
Gianluca Beraldo ( talk) 17:58, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
In Wichí the front open vowel patterns with the front vowels /i/ and /e/ for phonological processes, which is why it was listed under the front vowel column, and not a central vowel column, despite being phonetical more centralized.
This same process occurs in the Nivaclé language. While your edit comment about there being no reason to remove the central column again isn't wrong (You can leave the edit, this isn't me telling you that you need to change it), there also is no point in adding it. It can stay either way on the Wichí languages page as both interpretations are correct, but show different information, but it does not need to be changed on pages like Nivaclé Language in the future, as there are citations in Lyle Campbell's book Nivaclé Grammar that defend it remaining as it is. (The phonological processes mentioned).
TLDR: You don't need to make any changes based on my feedback, just know that sometimes there are reasons why a language's phonology might be grouped as it is. The Linguist LL ( talk) 19:29, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
Hello,
I've noticed you hounding my changes to various phoneme charts for the last few days. I am here to ask why you had to revert my change here [4] (which only cleaned up the table and orthography sections), and then proceed to add back everything I changed over the course of about 20 minutes up until this revision, [5], which as you can see if you compare the two only put a word inside some brackets and changed the word "voiced" to "central" on the chart - and you did not restore the initially incorrect (before I fixed it) orthography section - which included incorrect phonemes such as [ ʒ] - and a shocking mix of IPA and IPAblink.
In the future, if you wish to continue, I request that you put your own changes on top of my edits and refrain from mashing the revert button then doing the exact same thing I did.
I trust you will fix the outstanding issues with the Jingpho orthography chart as well. Thanks.
P.S. - might I add, you did the exact same thing with the Northern Ndebele page as well.
P.P.S - and Fula - in which you literally just turned the table back to the exact version I changed it to in the course of two edits. How is this in any way a good use of your time?
Stan traynor ( talk) 17:07, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
Hello,
I've noticed that you've kept reverting my improvements to phonology charts for little reason, despite my request for you to stop. For example, you did the exact same thing to Luri language as you did to Jingpho, etc. If you do not stop, I will be forced to take this to Wikipedia:ANI (and I expect they will take a very dim view of your actions considering what happened last time. Thanks. Stan traynor ( talk) 06:41, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
@ Fdom5997 What leads you to think phoible isn't a reliable source? It's used in a ton of articles ( [6]) - and there's no reason for it not to be, since it's just a compilation of phonemic analyses from other sources. Would you rather the direct source of the inventory was cited instead? Stan traynor ( talk) 17:36, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Not many articles have their letters for that system next to their IPA transcriptions, it makes it easier to read. 87.115.190.116 ( talk) 19:20, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
So not only are you putting unsourced material in the article, but you delete the sources I provide so you can keep it? If you believe the source is wrong, take it to talk. Otherwise knock it off. — kwami ( talk) 04:02, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
@ User:Kwamikagami No. The material is* cited that I am publishing. And I just cited another newer source to further prove my point. Fdom5997 ( talk) 04:05, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
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Could you care to explain why my edit to the table was "unconstructive"? Because unless we're using diametrically different definitions of "unconstructive", I don't see it at all. Santi2222 ( talk) 21:12, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
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This is your only warning; if you purposefully and blatantly harass fellow Wikipedian(s) again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. As reported at ANI, with consideration given to your previous behaviour — leave Eievie alone. — TheresNoTime ( talk • they/them) 06:11, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
User:Donald Albury is cleaning up the Hitchiti article, which currently covers both the historic tribal town and the Hitchiti language. We were curious if the Hitchiti language is the same as the Mikasuki language or if it's a related dialect. Omniglot appears to say they are the same. Native-Languages.org suggests Hitchiti is an extinct dialect of Mikasuki-Hitchiti. Thank you for any insights! Yuchitown ( talk) 18:38, 18 December 2022 (UTC)Yuchitown
Hello, I saw you reverse my edits to the Phonology section of the Cho'l Language. I did include my source, so I'm not quite sure what you meant by "unsourced." Also, it is more accurate to order consonants from obstruents to sonorants, which is why I changed the order of "Nasal." YjlJeremiah ( talk) 17:32, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
Hi, I would like to ask why my edits to the phonology section of the Wyandot language were reverted. The table had the orthographic representations of some sounds but not others, and I was adding those that were missing. Electricbrass ( talk) 18:57, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
Do you have a source that Moldavian standard Romanian is phonologically distinct from Romanian standard Romanian? (Or really, that the phonology differs when the Moldovan standard is called "Romanian" and "Moldovan".) If not, the phonology section is superfluous and per FORK should be deleted. Note we're not talking about the Moldavian dialect here -- if that's what the table is, it belongs in the dialect article. — kwami ( talk) 09:11, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
Hello! Please don't revert my changes to the Tewa consonant chart. If you read the source cited, you'll see that my edits were in keeping with the academic material about this topic. Pages 43-50 were particularly enlightening on this subject. I'm simply trying to help make sure this language is well documented on wikipedia where it is more easily accessible by the general public :) OctoToast ( talk) 20:49, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
But those sounds are same like in the Kazakh IPA chart page. While what I see in Kazakh language, phonology page is not correct. Like ұ is always ʊ, Ү - is [Y] or [y]. Ö is ø and etc. Could you please return my changes back. NusrTansj ( talk) 04:43, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
What are you talking about? Kazakh I.P.A. chart page is regulated by the confirmed user called Nardog. And where are the sources? I don’t see any of them about vowels. Stop talking nonsense, there is the sound of ü(ү) mentioned 3 times and all 3 of them shown as 3 different IPA letters. NusrTansj ( talk) 13:11, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
The source is Vajda, Edward (1994), "Kazakh phonology". It is already cited for the consonants, and also explains the phonetic sounds of the vowels, cited within the vowel section. That is the source to use, as well as Wagner et al, “A Grammar of Kazakh. Fdom5997 ( talk) 17:36, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
You have no idea nor knowledge, nor interest about it. As I said before the letter ү/ü mentioned 3 times in this one Kazakh phonology page and all 3 times it’s shown as the 3 different IPA letters. Give at least 0,0001% of attention before arguing about something you have absolutely no idea and stop overusing your position by devaluing the work of people with one click NusrTansj ( talk) 10:10, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Istriot very much uses the symbol "ʃ" and those native names for dialects, you can pick up any dictionary published by anyone and see that. I can cite to you from which dialect I specifically wrote for the word list and if you wish I can direct you to the exact pages of the dictionary where I got the words from. 46.35.129.212 ( talk) 17:20, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
This revert of my edits from over a year ago is completely incorrect. /ʃ ʒ/ are not dorsal and /w/ is not a "labialized /j/". Next time, either read the edit summaries or abstain from editing in areas outside of your expertise. The alveolar trill is not a standard sound for /ʁ/ and the table is meant to cover Standard Lisbon Portuguese. If it was meant to cover regional dialects, we'd have to put the alveolar tap in parentheses as the dialect of Setúbal features only one rhotic phoneme that is uvular, as in French. Sol505000 ( talk) 07:03, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
I've grouped together /ɾ/ with /ʁ/ as central liquid consonants. That should do. Sol505000 ( talk) 07:21, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
I am entirely right in that many of these so-called "language isolates" are infact not ones. You and your cabal of sock and meatpuppets are vandalizing this encyclopedia to promote your clearly false views on language isolates. Nestofbirdnests ( talk) 01:56, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Thank you, Fdom5997 for handling this and standing your ground when for two hours(!) this freak could uninhibitedly insert complete shit into Wikipedia. Great job!
Why I'm here: you have added a phonology section to Banggai language based on van den Bergh's grammar. Do you happen to have a digital copy of it? I only have a print copy in a deplorably torn shape, and never managed to scan it for fear it might totally fall apart when scanned. – Austronesier ( talk) 18:35, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
I did not appreciate you reverting all my edits (supported by sources) only to remove a statement you disagree with. Next time undo only the edit on [ts] and not on the rest as well. Be more careful next time
Shack76 ( talk) 18:51, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
I added sources and I was trying to make it more accurate 2601:192:8701:B4C0:C54:A0C3:D194:7AB ( talk) 20:01, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
Hei, jeg vil at du skal avklare om Timucua-språket er isolert. Gi meg kilder som sier dette. Takk! Kekemaki ( talk) 20:19, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I have seen that you have reverted several of my edits on Swahili phonology, stating that they are unsourced. That's my fault for not putting in the source as I did the update. I should have done that. This is the source for my edits. Would you mind reverting your reversion of my edits? Thank you.
BasilLeaf ( talk) 06:40, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi, I saw that you reverted my edits on the page. I would like to know why. I'm a native speaker of the language and have noticed those sounds being there for a lot of speakers. You morr ( talk) 15:32, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
I'm writing this here because i am TIRED of all the harasment you have been doing to be over the last month. I am very intersted in languages and have been for YEARS and i even made some myself. i was trying to make some CONSTRUCTIVE edits on wikipedia because when i was looking at some languages that are "isolates" i found out that many of them wer enot and that YOU are making all of this stuff up! i dont know why you are doing this and how youve been able to GET AWAY WITH THIS FOR SO LONG! you and your cabal of sockpuppets and manpulation of admins have been making hoaxes on wikipedia for YEARS. I was trying to fix those stupid articles on nestofbirdnests and then you started reverting my PERFECTLY FINE EDITS! THOSE EDITS WERE CONSTRUCTIVE AND CORRECT!AND THEN YOU GOT MY ACCOUNT PERM BLOCKED! i made another account so that I could talk to you RATIONALY but then IT GOT BLOCKED AGAIN! I AM SO FRUSTERATED WITH THESE ADMISN ON WIKIPEDIA! YOU KEEP REVERTING EVERY EDIT I MAKE FOR STUPID REASONS! I want you to stop. Just stop. then you got my IP BLOCKED!! FOR WHAT??! BECAUSE I WAS MAKING GOOD EDITS TO THE ENCYCLOPEDIA? BUT THATS APAPRENTLY NOT ALLOWED! so then I went on simple eng wiki because I wanted to stay away from you harasing me. but then you GOT MY ACCOUNTS BLOCKED THERE TOO! and not only that YOU GOT MY BOYFRIED BLOCKED FOR NO REASON!
WHY? Is it because you know that IM A FURRY and you HATE THEM? what is with people and there hate of them. you and other people always think that we aall sexualy attracted to animals! i have a cat and NOT ONCE in my life have i ever or have i ever thought of doing somethih glike that to him! the fact that u and your little admin friends have gotten my accounst BLOCKED just because I am a furry. so now my ip address is BLOCKED UNTIL OCTOBER!!! and from what i see you will wont stop at anything, you'll get my ip adress then make a report to my school cause im using their ips to make my edits too and then youll get verizon involved so you can ccome up with a STUPID EXCUSE to get my internet acess blocked! why do you hate furries? why to you want to get me banned from wiki? just stop harassing me! I love languages and i want to make this wikipedia really good. but you keep tagging my accounts like User:Stoatery as sockpuppets! I AM SO MAD WITH YOU AND THIS WIKI RIGHT NOW! THESE ADMINS ARE SO UNFAIR, AND THEYLL ALWAYS SIDE WITH YOU ISNEAD OF ME! when i become an admin one dday, the first thing i will do is GLOBALLY BAN YOU AND ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS! just let me edit for once! stop harassing me or ill bring this up to the arbitration comittee! Aloevariation ( talk) 11:18, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
They're labeled "tenuis/ejective" because they vary between tenuis and ejective. All sources I've seen state either that the ejection is weak, or that it's optional. — kwami ( talk) 04:51, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi, just as a heads-up, Libertydom5997 ( talk · contribs) was created recently claiming on their user page that they were a legitimate alternate account of yours, but then engaging in some shenanigans with Nestofbirdnests ( talk · contribs) and getting themselves checkuser-blocked. I suppose that wasn't really you, but could you quickly confirm? Thanks! Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:45, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
Not sure if it's a phoneme or just a C sequence that needs to be mentioned because it's not reflected in orthography. But it can start a word (e.g. Henry's name). — kwami ( talk) 05:41, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
It looks like you were right about Cayuga. Mithun Languages of Native North America says, p. 426: "The phonological inventory is small: consonants t, k, ts, s, n, r, w, y, h, ˀ; and vowels i, e, a, o, ę, ǫ (with variant u for o in some contexts)."
She gives examples with kh, th, tsh, but also hs, ht, hkw even one hkh and word-final hs. So perhaps the t/d, ts/j, k/g distinctions in the dictionary are for phonemic Ch sequences; presumably the Sh- in Henry's name is also a sequence, just with no good analogue in English orthography. — kwami ( talk) 06:15, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
This is a waste of your time, I have no idea why you're doing it, but if you want to change something I've edited just change it, don't revert the entire edit then put most of it back and just leave out the part you want to change. Stan traynor ( talk) 00:05, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
Hi! I hope you don’t mind me asking this here. A while ago, my edit on Help:IPA/Albanian was reverted with the justification that it was not discussed. I made the edit after my changes on Albanian language#Phonology. According to this paper The Vowels of Standard Albanian, the IPA for ‘e’ is /e/ and not /ɛ/. I understand that there is occasional alternation, but it seems unexplainable to me that ‘e’ would be pronounced always or mostly as /ɛ/. Would you be able to find out more? I’m asking you because you seem knowledgeable about phonology and have shown interest in Albanian. If you can’t or don’t want to, that’s perfectly fine. Just ignore this message. Thank you in advance!
I've copy-pasted this message from the one I've sent to Austronesier since you both have shown some interest and are knowledgeable about it. Hope you don't mind:) FierakuiVërtet ( talk) 19:32, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
Why does greenlandic lack tense? Millows ( talk) 07:17, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
Why does Central Pomo distinguish /k/, /kʰ/, /kʼ/ from uvular /q/, /qʰ/, /qʼ/? Millows ( talk) 19:57, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
Why do you keep trying to get User:Nestofbirdnests blocked? They've made nothing but positive contributions to language "isolate" articles. 172.56.33.130 ( talk) 00:28, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
You're acting so disrespectful towards User:Nestofbirdnests. Before you say anything, no. I'm not a sockpuppet. But go ahead, report me to SPI. It's even more evident that you're on a crusade against them. Perfectnest ( talk) 01:09, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
please leave the editing of the article to more advanced users and native speakers. please don't undo the edits. Başqurd ( talk) 17:05, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
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Hi, I'm the one who edited the page for the Muysccubun language. I made those edits as the wikipedia page is highly inaccurate and has a lot of spelling errors and just letters which straight up don't exist, and many other errors. Can I ask why exactly you reverted them? Iraca ( talk) 00:32, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
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Hi Fdom5997, please see my comment on the Talk page of the Yazghulami article. Thank you! Erusse estelinya ( talk) 08:08, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello Fdom5997, would you please explain why you reverted my edit?
Thanks,
Ian :) Wizardito-OL ( talk) 06:53, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
Which particular parts of this didn't you like? So much so that it didn't require an edit summary.
Starting from the top neither United States nor Russia should be linked as per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking#What generally should not be linked. This applies in several places.
Your replaced [[Chukotka Autonomous Okrug|Chukotka]] with [[Chukotka]] but the second link is a disambiguation page. Not helpful to the reader.
You changed [[Siberian Yupik]]s to [[Siberian Yupiks]] making it into a redirect.
You changed [[Eskaleut languages|Eskaleut]] to Eskimo-Aleut, again, making it a redirect.
You changed [[Eskaleut languages#Internal classification|Eskimo]] to [[Eskimo languages|Eskimo]] making it a redirect.
You changed [[Cyrillic script|Cyrillic]] to [[Cyrillic]] making it a redirect.
You changed "United States" to [[USA]]. That, as mentioned, is contrary to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking#What generally should not be linked and also to Wikipedia:Manual of Style#US and U.S.. Which, in part, says "...do not use U.S.A. or USA except in a quotation...".
You changed [[Chaplino dialect|Chaplino (Chaplinski) Yupik]] (Uŋazigmit) is spoken on the shores of [[Chukotka Autonomous Okrug]] in the [[Extreme North|Russian Far North]], and St. Lawrence Island Yupik to '''[[Chaplino dialect|Chaplino (Chaplinski) Yupik]]''' (Uŋazigmit) is spoken on the shores of [[Chukotka Autonomous Okrug]] in the [[Extreme North|Russian Far North]], and '''St. Lawrence Island Yupik'''. The bold text should be removed as per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Text formatting#Boldface. See the sections at Other uses and When not to use boldface. Neither of those terms are redirects to Central Siberian Yupik language so they should not be bold. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 18:45, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
Look, I understand that you may not like my edits, but they give information that was requested for, and explain things that have been left unexplained, and IMHO, it's more helpful as it provides many more details. I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.
As for the vowel chart, I reorganized it for the section about vowel harmony I was going to add.
Thank You for Understanding
Wizardito-OL Wizardito-OL ( talk) 22:26, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Dear Mr. Fdom5997!
Please send me a reply message to the oc-pecypc@bk.ru. I would like to discuss with you some issues of Ossetic orthoepy. I am sure that you will learn a lot of new things for yourself.
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You have reverted my edits on breton orthography because "I took away IPA sounds without any sources provided" I removed no sounds (besides [ä]) I only made transcription more comprehensive and I believe my edits were constructive. Could you provide a more detailed reason for your reverts. 2A01:B340:84:D6C9:FC86:A467:5D2E:5E7F ( talk) 23:33, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
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Klallam Grammar, page 9 (emphasis mine): "So the occurrence of this sound is predictable [...] this systematic inconsistency [in the orthography] has been established at the request of elders, who [...] disliked spellings such as ʔíʔɬx̣ʷaʔ for ʔéʔɬx̣ʷaʔ 'Elwha.'
Am I good to reinstate my edits?
Algæ ( talk) 19:35, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
I have several issues with your reversion of my edit:
That being said, I think that it would be extremely advisable that you allow me to keep the edits I made last night. Just because you don't like the status quo being changed (or you don't like me in general) doesn't mean you get to revert it if it's without reason, and like this instance, detrimental.
The biggest issue I have however is your insistance on keeping unsourced, and often factually incorrect, in the article. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Wizardito-OL ( talk) 16:31, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
You reverted my change to the page (I undid it) when the source that we are citing (the third one) clearly says that the implosive q͡ɓ is phonemic and the stop q͡p is allophonic of the labial-uvular implosive. If you see the quote that I have shown from the introduction over here, you can see what I mean.
However, our own data and Vörbichler (1969), show that there are two more articulations, q͡ɓ and ɠ͡ɓ, in Lese. In addition, [...] q͡ɓ has an allophone q͡p.
— Didier Demolin and Bernard Teston, Phonetic characteristics of double articulations in some Mangbutu-Efe languages
That is also why I kept the labial-velar implosive and added back the labial-uvular implosive on the page. PharyngealImplosive7 ( talk) 14:43, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
you reverted my edit on the phonology of my language,can you please tell my why? and clearly no language has a [tʰl] sound Laiflsse ( talk) 08:50, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
does not have sounds like [ʰn],[ʰŋ],[ʰm],[tlʰ],[tɾʰ] and more , thank you. Laiflsse ( talk) 03:49, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
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Hi. In Yandruwandha language you use {{Sfn|Breen|2004}} but no such work is defined. This means that nobody can look the reference up, and also paces the article into Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors. If you could supply the missing source that would be great. DuncanHill ( talk) 11:02, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
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Why did you revert that, when its clearly covered in another article? scope_creep Talk 17:22, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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I've noticed you have a tendency to mass-revert edits you don't like, even when there's only one minor bit out of paragraphs of info you have a problem with. If someone makes a sizable edit but only one aspect of the edit has a problem, just go in and manually revert that part. There's no need to revert everything. Overall I also notice from your editing history and talk page that you have a very domineering attitude on here. Arguing with a native speaker of a language that they're wrong about their own language, when you know nothing about the language yourself ( as you did here, e.g.), is not a great move. Just try to keep in mind that other people can make contributions, too, don't bite, don't be so quick to mass-revert useful contributions, and know the limitations of your knowledge. Dylanvt ( talk) 22:01, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
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Hi. I was wondering if your addition the Phonology section in Gubbi Gubbi language was directly based on J. P. Bell (2003), A sketch grammar of the Badjala language of Gari (Fraser Island). Was Bell (2003) using these IPA symbols or some other description? https://phoible.org/inventories/view/2940 seems to have a different set. Moyogo/ (talk) 18:28, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi there, looks like you reverted my addition of IPAlinks to the consonant chart and then added them yourself. Was the revert a mistake, or was there something wrong with how I did it? Snowman304| talk 03:12, 11 April 2024 (UTC)