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The result was redirect to
Ric_Richardson#Haventec. Going with redirect as a middle ground in the delete/merge/redirect spectrum. The history is still here so if anybody really wants to pull something out to merge into the target, they can do so (be sure to cite the source in the edit summary per
WP:SMERGE to preserve attribution). --
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Delete There are 5 citations on the page, 4 of which don't even mention her once. The other is a trivial mention amongst the cast-list with an empty biography. No evidence at all of media coverage, peer review or notability.
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Keep Kinda new to wikipedia and not really sure how to stop this article from deletion. The page is about an musician, composer and television personality from the UK. She has recently changed her stage name but, still has notable work under her other names. - TV Work under the name Vicky Fallon [1]
as a composer under the name O’neill and as singer ( in the band smoke2seven) for a song that charted in the UK [2] Also preformed under Fallon as a featured artist and as composer for the song by Alan Braxe called nightwatcher [3] What would be the steps to correct the sources as I feel the article provides many examples of her notable work?
Ashlee444 (
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Replace with a redirect to
Abz Love. I'm not convinced of her notability, much of which derives from
Abz Love and Smoke 2 Seven (who may be notable, having had a UK #26 single). People aren't notable on the basis of either people they're in a relationship with or bands they are in, so a redirect to
Abz Love might be more appropriate (well-cited material might be merged there, or an article on Smoke 2 Seven might be created). Sources cited are generally tabloid gossip-style coverage, which isn't a good source per
WP:RS. She doesn't meet
WP:NACTOR or
WP:NMUSICIAN in her own right, and hasn't done much as a songwriter (a Sugababes b-side and the occasional other release but no big hits, as far as I can tell). --
Colapeninsula (
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13:26, 24 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Based on
WP:COMPOSER item 1. Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition, does she not meet the criteria? I feel as a co-writer on 2 songs with Smoke 2 seven that have charted would qualify. Same with the writing credits for the song with Alan Braxe which was released as a single, she was also a featured artist on that track.
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I am having a hard time coming up with a specific WP guideline to cite here, but to me this doesn't seem notable enough to have it's own WP page. One source is cited as calling the 4 players the "Fantastic Four." The closest parallel I could draw was "The Dream Team" and even a notable nickname such as that one still directs to the page
1992 United States men's Olympic basketball team.
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22:53, 23 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete the article isn't quiiiite G4-able (based on the version kept at Deletionpedia), but delete for the same reason as the previous AfD. I'm also not sure it'd be a common enough search term to redirect it.
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Delete No citations or independent coverage in reliable, published sources. No evidence of notability. Winning a gold medal would not automatically confer notability to a subject so winning a silver does not meet WP:GNG
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Product of 2006 FAC, largely unsourced and technically falls under BLP, and many other bands do not have separate History page. Kept in 2008, but consensus may have changed since then.
Tonystewart14 (
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21:44, 23 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Snow keep no valid reason for deletion.....if it needs sources add them......clicking on the find sources link above leeds to thousands of sources on this topic.
Moxy (
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21:47, 23 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment:@
Tonystewart14: A lot of other bands don't have separate history articles. If the effort was made, you could move the information to the main article without compromising quality, I am sure the main article could be re-evaluated for FA status. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it!00:06, 24 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete, redundant to
Rush (band). If any content is worth keeping, move it there. There is no precedent for this article to exist, as it is largely duplication of what's already on the band's article. Ten Pound Hammer • (
What did I screw up now?)22:29, 23 August 2017 (UTC)reply
This article is made up of the stuff purged from the main article during the FA review..... best not to jam it back in......one of the reasons it lost its FA Satu was because this merger was tried.....and lead to FA demotion......lots of work went in to moving this stuff back to this article .
Moxy (
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Moxy: By your logic, you can't be bothered to actually go through the information and move it to the main article with sources to help up the quality.
Black Sabbath has a hstory that is just as long as Rush, but they don't have their own history article. Why is Rush given preferential treatment? Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it!00:06, 24 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment: I'm a little puzzled... if you have a separate "History" article it's usually because it's much larger than the "summary" in the main article... but that doesn't seem to be the case here – it's only about 300 words longer (out of nearly 5000), which suggests it's largely a duplication of
Rush (band)#History, so it doesn't really explain why a separate article is needed or why the main article can't be improved instead.
Richard3120 (
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23:34, 23 August 2017 (UTC)reply
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Richard3120: By Moxy's logic, it would be too much work because a lot of work went into the history article. They don't want to be bothered to actually go through the information put in the main article and source it to help up the quality. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it!00:06, 24 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete - Duplicative of the history section of
Rush. Huge swaths of unsourced fan essay, as opposed to the band page, which is sourced out pretty well. Sort of resembles a POV fork in that regard.
Carrite (
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23:15, 26 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete Agree that this is mostly repetitive--if less elaborate--information from the parent article. It's problematic that much of it appears original research (although portions are sourced) and POV rather than encyclopedic. Cut that stuff away and what's left is something that more properly belongs with the parent article; indeed, that is the place one would expect to find this information.
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The article relies heavily on primary sources and the subject of the article is only marginally notable. This article appears to be a vanity article and puffery piece. Has some recent press mention and some published works, but overall does not appear to be a mainstream researcher based on the listed sources in the article. Wikipedia certainly cannot list every single college professor who has written papers unless they have somehow distinguished themselves in a particular field. I have reviewed many of his papers and I don't find them particularly notable. His political career may be notable, but I would like to see the views of other editors regarding this. Any college professor can dump white papers by publishing in journals but they have to be distinguished and notable to warrant an article on Wikipedia.
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21:35, 23 August 2017 (UTC)reply
I disagree with Octoberwoodland. Daniel Kammen is clearly a dinstinguished professor and currently the center of a major news story for resigning from his state department post in reaction to President Trump's actions. — Preceding
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Although I mightily disagree with the political views of Kammen and his interpretation of President Trump's comments, I don't see any reason why his career shouldn't warrant a Wikipedia page. Being selected as a U.S. Science Envoy by the State Department, in addition to his position at Berkeley, is certainly notable and much more than the average college professor. I wouldn't say the current news story is that significant, but altogether Kammen's resume shouldn't justify deletion. Octoberwoodland describes many of Kammen's papers not "particularly notable" -- I'll credit him for speaking his opinion, but certainly the State Department and UC-Berkeley didn't think his papers were "trashy" (although I hate the majority of university professors for my own way).- A Guest — Preceding
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173.49.254.206 (
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21:56, 23 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep - Passes
WP:ACADEMIC.
Google scholar search shows that his scholarship is widely cited in his field satisfying criteria 1. His position as science envoy satisfies criteria 2. His position as a fellow at the
African Academy of Sciences satisfies criteria 3. He is a distinguished professor at UC-Berkeley which satisfies criteria 5. These are more objective criteria than "does not appear to be a mainstream researcher" and "I have reviewed many of his papers and I don't find them particularly notable". Further the rationale of "Any college professor can dump volumes of trashy white papers with their brain farts by publishing in journals" shows a contempt to
WP:SCHOLARSHIP.
Morbidthoughts (
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23:05, 23 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Snow keep — Another time-wasting deletion attempt because somebody's name was in the news. Easily meets
WP:NACADEMIC #3 for membership in selective groups (four times over: 1 Energy and Resources Group, 2. Goldman School of Public Policy, 3. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and 4. U.S. Science Envoy). Also meets
WP:NACADEMIC #5: holds or has held a named chair/distinguished professor chair, for being the 1935 Distinguished Professor of Energy at UC Berkeley. And then there's the small thing of being one of the lead authors of the IPCC report that shared the 2007 Nobel Prize, meeting NACADEMIC #2, or just GNG. Also meets
WP:AUTHOR for having written a significant body of work consisting of hundreds of journal articles, and 12 books, at least several of which have "multiple independent periodical articles or reviews". Significant news and book coverage of Daniel Kammen spans back at least as far back as 2001, meeting
WP:GNG. So at a cursory glance, the subject has met at SEVEN separate criteria for notability, any one of which is sufficient. --
Dennis Bratland (
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23:21, 23 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Well, you make some good arguments, however, all of these references and sources you rely on are not currently in the article or properly sourced, which leaves us with a poorly written and poorly sourced article. How about adding some of them to the article so his accomplishments are properly represented. As it stands, the current article fails to mention all this wonderful content you seem to have located online. I am having a hard time determining which of it would be useful or relevant. How about you add some of it to this article so it does not get deleted.
Octoberwoodland (
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02:09, 24 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep per Bratland. @Octoberwoodland: I don't think Wikipedia works that way. The purpose of this discussion is to determine whether this page warrants deletion. Useful contributions should not be press-ganged into additional work beyond the original spirit of contribution. Any person here can make these edits. If they don't get made, it's because each of us decided—for our own reasons—that we had better outlets for our energy on the margin.
To make a point, I just googled "IPCC Daniel Kammen", second link: "Daniel Kammen is a coordinating lead author for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007." This from erg.berkeley.edu
Furthermore: "Kammen is the author of over 300 journal publications, 6 books, 30 technical reports, and has testified in front of state and US House and Senate over 30 times." This is not difficult stuff, the subject is hardly hiding under an obscure rock. —
MaxEnt02:55, 24 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete — U.S. Science Envoys usually serve for one year. He was appointed in March 2016 (over 1 year ago). Clearly, his departure at this point is no big deal. It is not clear in this article what his accomplishments are or how significant his role in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is. There are an incredibly large number of members on that panel. This article seems to imply that he had an integral role in the panel being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, but what is there to substantiate this? — Preceding
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Individual likely fails
WP:GNG and
WP:NMG. He has not done anything major musically to qualify for an article; his most notable aspect is being a member of
Wanna One, and winning a TV show competition and even then he has not made any releases to his own name.
Abdotorg (
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21:04, 23 August 2017 (UTC)reply
See
WP:BAND, "Singers and musicians who are only notable for participating in a reality television series may be redirected to an article about the series, until they have demonstrated that they are independently notable".
Snowflake91 (
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10:12, 24 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete - per nom, fails
WP:GNG (no individual coverage in reliable sources, with exception of routine short reports about
Wanna One activities). By the way, per
WP:DUCK test, I strongly suspect that Countles and Kanghuitari are the same person – for example, they were doing the same edits in May 2017, like
here and in other categories regarding filming locations, and now this user magically appears after more than 3 months of inactivity, just few minutes after Kanghuitari posted.
Snowflake91 (
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10:28, 24 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete - I agree with
Snowflake91. He is not independently notable. His song releases for Vocal War also didn't chart otherwise he has no notable songs. It's all related to his job as a member of Wanna One.--
Thebestwinter (
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17:29, 24 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete - per nom. For someone who helped clean this page, it pains me to do this, but I really do believe that the individual fails the criteria enumerated in
WP:NMG. Besides, the page can be restored later once the individual finally does something notable that fits the criteria listed on
WP:NMG. Eugh jei♥Kaorin15:50, 26 August 2017 (UTC)reply
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Delete was not notable before his passing, is not notable since passing. Fails
WP:GNG. Just because someone dies does not automatically mean they get an article.
WereWolf (
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11:53, 25 August 2017 (UTC)reply
The article was created because he placed 8th in the super bowl of his sport and 2nd in the second most respected competition..... not because he died, assume good faith.
GuzzyG (
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11:55, 25 August 2017 (UTC)reply
I didn't say it was and i didn't make the article, i understand Wikipedias outdated and draconian notability requirements quite clearly. I am just stating that it is hardly the fault of the creator to not realize that someone who came eighth in the highest competition in their sport is not notable while someone who plays one match in a mainstream sport is. Easy mistake.
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Delete the available sources appear to consist of the paper mentioned above and a few other sources citing it or referring to it. Doesn't have enough coverage to meet
notability standards. Hut 8.520:33, 23 August 2017 (UTC)reply
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Fails
WP:GNG/
WP:CORPDEPTH. Two sources are scientific papers which have nothing to do with the subject at hand, the others are business listings, passing mentions and someone getting a job with the firm.
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User:[email protected] How does fancruft amount to deletion? "Fancruft means people want to know more about the person. Moreover she has got adequate fan following in Tamilnadu, a state of India." It should be a Keep 18:42, 23 August 2017 (UTC) [1] — Preceding
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@Ashikmb555 -- "Fancruft means people want to know more about the person. Moreover she has got adequate fan following in Tamilnadu, a state of India" -- NO, it does not mean that on Wikipedia. So, please learn the rules of editing Wikipedia before creating articles or voting on articles
recommended for deletion. You received a welcome on your talk page and that welcome shows what you need to read to learn how to edit properly. I suggest you read all the recommended sections in that message, delineated for just that purpose.
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Firstly, I should disclose my COI as an employee of the company in question. I am also a newcomer to Wikipedia and attribute any initial disruptive editing to this. I believe that I have put my case forward in a neutral and civil manner and in keeping with Wikipedia's guidelines. To get a full picture, it is probably best to visit the talk page for World News Media
Talk:World_News_Media Content on the page, even after subsequent edits appears biased and as such
WP:NPOV is violated.
WP:CORP is also violated as the company has no inherent or inherited notability
Scottrouse (
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14:30, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
Creating deletion discussion for
World News Mediareply
Comment. Without yet weighing in on the merits of this nomination, the article is now vastly different from the version that triggered the dispute on the talk page.
331dot (
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14:48, 23 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment The majority of the sources given are press releases or self-published content and therefore notability has not been established. The editors have not taken into account NPOV. To quote the guidelines: "Editors, while naturally having their own points of view, should strive in good faith to provide complete information, and not to promote one particular point of view over another". While considerable efforts have been made over the past day or so, the article remains woefully unbalanced. You focus solely on one of our publications and our awards in order to prop up what appears to be a malevolent agenda while refusing to engage in any meaningful discussion or indeed explain your edits despite repeated calls to do so. I still welcome meaningful discussion from the editors
Scottrouse (
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23:26, 23 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep but trim I feel there are enough sources that provide significant coverages towards the company to keep the article, but we need to trim awards / claims that are soley based on primary sources, whether from this company or from the Botswana Corprate Watchdog group. It's going to be much smaller, but that's probably correct for a company like this and given the existing secondary sources.
Ravensfire (
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01:34, 24 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep It is helpful to have numerous sources in order to demonstrate that this company passes
WP:CORPDEPTH, "If the depth of coverage is not substantial, then multiple independent sources should be cited to establish notability." With regard to the COI editor who eventually admitted that they work for the company, and who has sought to remove what they have described as "incorrect" or "defamatory" content, they have made no effort to identify other reliable sources that might present their activities in a more favourable light. The article satisfies
WP:NPOV, as it reflects what is available in reliable sources.
Edwardx (
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13:33, 24 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep I don't see any grounds for deletion.
WP:NPOV is only a reason for deletion if the article cannot be fixed, and the only person who has a problem with point of view is themself far from NPOV, being an employee of the organisation. There are other processes on Wikipedia for handling disputes over bias and article content, as has already been pointed out on the article comment page, but as far as I can tell they haven't been invoked. People trying to edit their employer's article should probably read
Streisand Effect and browse through
List of Wikipedia controversies. --
Colapeninsula (
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13:56, 24 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment It is not helpful to discussion to point out an 'eventual' admission as it suggests that I knowingly transgressed Wikipedia rules. I have tried to remain transparent throughout. I have chosen not to hide behind a username, and by this I don't mean to offend those on Wikipedia who choose to (far from it). As I have already stated, any errors in process are due to being a newcomer and have been apologised for. As a company we don't seek glowing references in the form of independent sources on the internet, we just try to do the best that we can for our clients, be it print, web, video or through other content promotion. We are however subject to occasional posts and articles online which do not paint us in a positive light. I don't believe this is grounds for the creation and maintenance of a page devoted to only one side of our business that is actively reported on. I would be willing to keep the article in place if, as
User:Colapeninsula has helpfully suggested, problems with
WP:NPOV can be fixed. With regard to other avenues of handling disputes, you must again forgive me, it has only been a couple of days since I discovered the page's existence and I am learning your guidelines as I go. I will explore these avenues - thank you
User:Colapeninsula.
Scottrouse (
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16:29, 24 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete Given the use of small local papers reporting on local companies, and some odd misrepresentations of sourcing (it's not THE guardian) I am leaning towards delete, but it may just need work. All looks a tad to puffery for me.
Slatersteven (
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08:45, 25 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Also where is the in depth analysis of these awards (which seems to be the main focus of the article) why are there so few sources announcing the awards overall (rather then just triumphing one (almost always local to the newspapers) companies win)? this is what I mean by "local paper" newspapers published in one (often small) country that seem to just be acting as vanity pieces for the award winner, and no in depth coverage of the wards themselves. The point is there is no real coverage beyond mere local interest except for two sources.
Slatersteven (
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09:44, 25 August 2017 (UTC)reply
We have articles for the majority of the sources. I don't think we can say that we won't use them just because they are not published in London or the U.S., and that doesn't make them "local". There are numerous other sources for the awards, just do a Google search, but obviously we want reliable third party sources and naturally the majority of the sources relating to the awards are from the giver or the recipient as people like to boast about their awards. Hence the focus on third party sources.
Philafrenzy (
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09:56, 25 August 2017 (UTC)reply
This is about notability, we know it exists, but coverage has to be in depth, not trivial mentions about X company won this award". The point is that none of these "local sources" are any thing more then trivial mention, they do not establish notability (except maybe for the awardee). Hell it is a London based ward and yet we only have (in truth) one UK source for this notable event.
Slatersteven (
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10:05, 25 August 2017 (UTC)reply
What I mean is the the sources are largely puffery of local award winners, not in depth new stories. In essence this is an article about a minor vanity ward, as such it should not have it's own article.
Slatersteven (
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10:16, 25 August 2017 (UTC)reply
We don't make any moral judgement about the legitimacy of the awards or the business. People are clearly prepared to buy what they are selling. It's just a matter of whether sufficient sources exist to demonstrate notability. It seems, when combined, that they do even if we would like them to be more in depth and more numerous.
Philafrenzy (
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10:19, 25 August 2017 (UTC)reply
No but we do need Significant coverage of the subject, not just a trivial mentions. The fact is that what we have a trivial mentions of "X local company today won an award". Now if in depth coverage of this ward exists then lets see it.
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Delete I cannot find sufficient reliable third party sources about the publisher in order to write a neutral article and the company's website provides little information beyond the address. What little coverage it has is in minor publications complaining about its awards. I don't know if the criticism is accurate, but would like to see better coverage before including it. Even then, it would come under
"People notable for only one event."TFD (
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00:15, 28 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep there are enough combined reliable sources referenced within the article to verify its present content and immediate expansion is not needed, so
WP:GNG is passed
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The person in the article is a professor at JNU and a Fullbirght Scholar. But does not have sufficient enough reason to have a separate bio page.
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This article holds significant importance as this guy is becoming a role model for many underground musician of Pakistan. His Facebook page reached above 151,000 followers and he is getting famous day by day. Please approve his page on Wikipedia. — Preceding
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Awesome page about the rising singer and emerging artist. This should not be deleted. I have checked the references as well they are great. — Preceding
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I've speedy deleted the article under CSD G11. It was created and recreated via Checkuser confirmed sock accounts (all three of which commented above as if they were unrelated individuals) in what is obviously a paid editing endeavour. --
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Vivek Lagoo is a theater writer/actor and film actor in Marathi. He is husband of Reema but that is not his identity. He has worked in many TV serials, Marathi plays and films. Unfortunately, there are not much references available on internet regarding Vivek but lot of content must be available in hard copy in various magazines. I have added few details but I suggest, other contributors can help in finding and adding more details in the article and should help in enhancing the article. I do not see any point in deleting this article.
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*Keep - I really do not understand, when he has written so many plays and acted in many, the required references are provided now, why he can not have independent article?
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Article appears to be a duplicate of existing UK railway lists. For example, the rolling stock used by franchises are in the article itself, and there are lists detailing units by class there. Additionally, the article features lots of duplication - see the many appearances of the Class 158 in this list. GR(
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I was unable to find a concise list of all of the rolling stock in one place on the internet when I created this article. Yes the rolling stock used by franchises are in the individual articles (which is where the information came from) but I feel this article is useful because it brings all of those lists together in one place. Also, the only reason the Class 158 is on this list so many list so many times is because seven different operators use it.
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Keep. I am not knowledgeable in the general topic area, but this looks like a useful, informative, comprehensive compilation of things of a certain type. As
wp:CLT covers, having a list is complementary to having categories (such as
Category:British Rail diesel multiple units, etc.), allowing for photographs and notes and sources. As a small note, I think the word "Locomotives" should be downcased in the article title, and perhaps UK should be "United Kingdom". --
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Edit heavily. This article seems to mostly contain multiple units, which are NOT locomotives. If you go to the
Locomotive page it clearly states;" A locomotive or engine is a rail transport vehicle that provides the motive power for a train. A locomotive has no payload capacity of its own, and its sole purpose is to move the train along the tracks. In contrast, some trains have self-propelled payload-carrying vehicles. These are not normally considered locomotives, and may be referred to as multiple units, motor coaches or railcars."Dr Sludge (
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Keep - while it never launched a product, it certainly seemed to generate enough news to make it noteworthy. In my searches I found a number of news articles about it (
[2],
[3],
[4],
[5],
[6],
[7],
[8], among many others). As one article noted, it was "launched with great fanfare"; it apparently died much the same way.
WP:NOTTEMPORARY would suggest that the topic remains notable even if the airline ultimately failed to launch.
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Comment – The article would benefit from listing the 5 books of his it mentions, with publisher names so as to potentially indicate whether notable publishers consider this person notable. -
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Biography (there's dispute about whether it's a
WP:BLP or not) of a porn actor whose only stated or sourced indication of notability per
WP:PORNBIO is that he won the "Biggest Bitch on Set" award one year for being a total PITA to actually work with. This is not a viable or compelling notability claim for a porn actor, but nothing else here is any stronger -- and neither is the sourcing, which depends on one deadlinked
primary source profile on the website of his own former employer and two glancing namechecks of his existence in references that are primarily about other things. Which thus brings us to the biggest problem of all: there has been an edit war raging for several years now over claims that he died in 1997, and that claim persistently relies on user-generated sources like IMDb and genealogy databases because
reliable source coverage that would properly verify it is completely nonexistent. There simply isn't enough legitimate sourcing here to get him over
WP:GNG, and there's no notability claim strong enough to exempt him from having to get over GNG, regardless of whether he's alive or dead.
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Speedy keep No reason for deletion has been provided, unless breast size is considered an argument. Clearly has the necessary coverage to satisfy notability requirements. —
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