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I would have waited until September 1. But I think Frances has made it clear that it's going to do something eventually. -- Cyrius| ✎ 22:54, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I kinda like the infobox, but what would we have in it after the storm's gone? Nuke it? And should it be put in all major storm articles? -- Golbez 05:02, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)
Okay, it looks like Frances will come pretty close to me just like Charley. I will try to get some NEXRAD picture again, when it comes ashore. Awolf002 03:13, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Lakeland... Having fun, yet? Awolf002 03:32, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I heard this morning that Polk County will suspend school, Friday. This thing is pretty big and will send us tropical storm winds over here, regardless of where it's going. Awolf002 13:04, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Right. Still, cross all the fingers you've got!! Awolf002 13:11, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Mmhhh... The NEXRAD picture does not look very instructive right now. We might just want to use a visible pix for the point in time when it makes landfall in FL. Or something completely different Awolf002 19:03, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Okay, the Melbourne radar seems to show some nice resolution of the center. I will concentrate on that one tonight. Awolf002 15:09, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Here's an ongoing real-time forecast discussion thread on Frances from the storm chase community: [ Stormtrack]
I vote to remove the predicted strom track! It's always out of date, and now the caption and picture are out of sync, too. Let's not confuse people! Awolf002 13:36, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I would prefer to leave it. For me, the more pictures, the better. -- AAAAA 14:32, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I only updated because you hadn't changed the time. I thought it was odd that most of the positions and speeds were the same. :)
HOWEVER, some aren't, and that's confusing me. Check the diff between you and me; some of my numbers (obtained directly from the NHC) don't match your's. Where did you get your figures from? -- Golbez 15:48, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)
Just wanted to check with everyone about this, since I know it might bother some people a little. My entire maternal family is Bahamian, and we've been getting cell phone calls periodically from family telling us what's been happening in the islands. Do you mind me adding in the basic facts from their accounts, even though I can't link to sources? One of my uncles is a hurricane tracker, so it's not like it's coming from completely useless sources, but I want to make sure I don't start adding in information when people might only want information that can be linked to on-line or some such. Maybe it's a ridiculous question, but I figured it's worth asking. (For the record, the only edit with first-hand accounts I've made so far is here.) Beginning 21:24, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)
At the moment, landfall looks imminent at West Palm Beach, Florida. I know the "be bold!" thing and all that, but I wanted to get input. Anyone think it should be changed? Mike H 19:28, Sep 4, 2004 (UTC)
Well, the western eyewall is now over the coast between Ft. Pierce and West Palm Beach. But I think the NHC will call it landfall when the center of the storm is over land. So not yet... Awolf002 01:40, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Okay, then the next Hurricane status update should tell us officially. Awolf002 01:53, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I switched it back to Fort Pierce a while ago. Mike H 05:25, Sep 5, 2004 (UTC)
I just now looked at the talk page and saw you all had a surprisingly democratic system going regarding content. I uploaded the landfall radar image Bigpicture0457xx.png for historical purposes... it's actually a pretty neat graphic, but if you decide on something else that's cool. But hopefully it works for you. Timvasquez 05:26, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Just check with the picture copyright policies of Wikipedia, since your picture has not the "normal" copyright for US governement generated graphics, which makes them free for every use. Awolf002 08:29, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I think we should keep the evacuation map around, but only one that shows the highest amount of evacuations; I'm not sure if the one up there now is a more recent one than the original. It would be useful to show just how many evacuations there were, and less so as a news resource. But I'm not sure if the one there now shows the full extent of the evacuations. -- Golbez 05:59, Sep 5, 2004 (UTC)
When this article has stablilized and become history, we should use many different versions of Image:Hurricane Frances track.gif (a pesky gif, should be converted later on too), to illustrate the path as it was expected before and during the storm. [[User:Sverdrup| ❝Sverdrup❞]] 15:01, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
If someone can come up with a GFDL/PD historical track for Frances, upload it over Image:Hurricane Frances track.gif. The image has been removed because it contains the forecast track which is, surprise, no longer relevant to the article. On the other hand, a historical track would be quite relevant. -- Cyrius| ✎ 05:19, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The box currently lists both Florida and the "East Coast of the United States" as affected territories. However, since Florida is part of the East Coast, this reads a little awkwardly to me. Can we change the East Coast part to something more specific? Also, I believe that it was never anything more than a tropical depression beyond Florida, so if the East Coast line is simply referring to the rains from what was left of Frances, maybe it's not necessary to begin with? Beginning 13:21, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)
Is UNISYS public domain? Their track maps are awesome.
- E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast
Thanks, Tom. Well at least we can link to them. I was hoping that they were public domain so that we could replace the track maps on the induvidual hurricane articles (such as Frances) with the UNISYS track maps. Oh, well.
- E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast 1 May 2005
Should we have the personal report here, or does that smell too much of original research/essay? -- Golbez 19:10, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
How can we make sure those reports are accurate and "encyclopedic"? Maybe, people who like to contribute those should be directed to Wikinews? Awolf002 20:22, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
I was unsure about this as well, I made sure of the exact times/happenings in the humanity section. And I added a warning before the section. If anyone has any ideas for how the information could be placed into the article better, that would be great. Deleting it wouldnt be good at all as it has useful information such as the number of people evacuated, the complete backup on the interstates, when and what aid and recovery was provided after the storm, etc... Thepcnerd
After reading over this section again, would wikinews not be a valid source for the information as well? Thus directing someone to wikinews would just be a time extending formality. Thepcnerd 06:36, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
Is there a point to having TWO track maps? -- Golbez 21:09, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
Lots of info here, but there's still a lot of work to be done. The storm history is too long and should be given subsections. The impact should be separated into impact and aftermath. Preparations should be extended. And I don't know what should be done with the humanity section (a similar section was removed from Hurricane Donna). Jdorje 21:10, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
The impact section on Florida (where most of the damage happened) is grossly small. I've been very surprised by how little US impact information exists on Frances and Jeanne. -- § Hurricane E RIC archive 01:20, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey, since I evacuated for Frances back then, I've got some pictures from then, including one that's of a power outage - fairly striking, candles and people's shadows in the dark. Is anyone interested in using them here? Runa27 01:45, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
I withdrew the nomination. The article isn't that good. There are no inline sources. It needs a thorough copyedit, if not a full redo. Come to think of it, when I finish Charley, I'll give this a redo. Please don't nominate it until more work is done on the article. Hurricanehink ( talk) 15:51, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
The article appears to be fully cited. Filled out the Bahamian impact some. Am going ahead and GACing the article. Thegreatdr ( talk) 13:09, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
These should be included in the article. Hurricanehink ( talk) 17:20, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
The first landfall in Florida was on unincorporated Hutchinson Island, which is the barrier island east of Sewall's Point, Jensen Beach, Port St. Lucie, etc. Sewall's Point is west of Hutchinson Island and has no ocean frontage. To make landfall on Sewall's Point the storm had to cross Hutchinson Island first. Sewall's Point was reported as being the first because it is the closest incorporated place. clariosophic ( talk) 13:52, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello.I'm going to remove the eyewitness reports and wind observations from the Bahamas and Florida that are in the "Storm History" section.I'll see if they fit into "Impact" sections,but they don't really seem to belong in Storm History,which should only contain the meteorological history of the storm itself. TheNobleSith ( talk) 18:25, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
After a long delay, the article is now well-referenced, and is being submitted for GAC/GAR/GAN. Thegreatdr ( talk) 13:14, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
And after another long delay because of backlog, it's getting reviewed. :D This is the longest I've reviewed so far and since today is a school day, the review might not be out until 5pm (EST). But, it will most likely be out this morning. Cyclonebiskit ( talk) 11:13, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Great job on bringing back this article! I only found one tiny thing with a reference, you need to put the author, date of access, publisher and the other things like the rest of the references. Once that's done I'll pass the article :) Cyclonebiskit ( talk) 11:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
The lede gives $12 billion. Impact says $9 billion. List of Costliest Atlantic Hurricanes gives $10.4 billion. Ayzmo ( talk) 04:39, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
A lot of information in this article is not sourced and may be in accurate. For example, the article states that..."Frances was the first hurricane to impact the entire Bahamian archipelago since 1866, and led to the nearly complete destruction of their agricultural economy." However, the 1928 Okeechobee hurricane impacted the entire Bahamian chain in 1928, causing severe devastation. If anybody can find sources for any un-sourced information in the article, it would be appreciated. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 16:26, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
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