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Hanuman Das ( talk · contribs), apparently thwarted from creating separate "X in film" pages (such as the now-deleted March 15 in film page) has taken to adding sections into date pages (as in here). Pretty big step. So, what's the feeling on the appropriateness of these? Yes? No? Maybe? -- Calton | Talk 05:57, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I did respond to that comment -- I said that this information serves no purpose whatsoever, in any form, either in individual articles, or on the day of the year pages. The only reason I haven't mass-reverted your edits to the day of the year pages so far is the thread on WP:AN. While I've been waiting for further input on that thread, you've been continuing to make edits that you have been warned are likely to be reverted. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 06:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Oh my, Calton, just as civil as usual I see. Called any other women stalker boy lately, or is that reserved for Ekajati? — Hanuman Das 07:15, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
WARNING I came here due to a film being added to a date I watch, and I find a full-blown flame war going on, usenet style. Be aware; I have used up all my tolerance this week on others. If I see one more post here not addressing whether films should be added to date articles, but comparing, exchanging or even discussing insults, I will block for disruption.
That said, adding film info to date articles is absurd. It is trivia-creep. Don't do it. One puppy's opinion. KillerChihuahua ?!? 10:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
We've had a lot of good discussion on this page, but would it be helpful at this point to summarize our working guidelines on the project page, such as:
As for the event criteria, does everyone still think what we came up with earlier this year is appropriate? I apologize for its bulky title - if we still think it's viable, we could move the page to a more appropriate title (maybe something like "WikiCalendar Event Criteria?") and link it to the project page so it's readily visible and can be referred to when need be. Fabricationary 07:48, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't agree with "Only the births and deaths of human beings should be listed.". If an animal is notable enough to warrant a Wikipedia article, then it should be fair to note its birth/death on these pages. This shouldn't be a serious problem in practice; very few animals reach this level of notability. I agree with all of the other guidelines. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 07:44, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Turns out there's a catch-all category: Category:Famous animals. Hmm...more than I would have guessed. I still think that Koko (gorilla) is more interesting than any hundred wrestlers...but I can see this getting out of hand if someone goes on a mission to add all of those (hundreds?) of animals to the date pages. Like most things around here, this would all be fine if we could just count on common sense to prevail. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 08:14, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 18:26, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
I can see there is one page called January 1, 2005, but not January 1, 2007. Why? Wouldn't it be better to be able to link to January 1, 2007, instead of January 1, 2007? Then you can see what actually happened on that particular day instantly. Jacob Lundberg 15:09, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
The July 21 article has an item for the release of HP7. It seems pretty clear to me that this will be notable on a global scale and for years to come (at least 'til the fuss about the 7th movie dies down, and it is almost certain that there will be a 7th movie). Maybe the exact date of the release won't be important in a few years, but it will be this year.
This makes me wonder why all future events and all events pertaining to books, etc. are considered non-notable. Brian Jason Drake 09:44, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree with what you wrote about a symbolic end of childhood for millions. That, however, is nostalgia and not "cultural impact." We aren't going to look at the world differently because of the HP7 movie release. Consider Star Wars episodes I-VI. Only Star Wars IV (the first one released) had any meaningful cultural impact (ushering in a new standard in science fiction movies) rates a mention in these articles. Rklawton 18:03, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
The July 21 article has one item that can be verified using reliable sources (the HP7 release date). The reference is also given in the HP7 article and no other item in the article has a reference. There appears to be nothing on the project page about references. Brian Jason Drake 09:47, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
This talk page has a lot of great ideas. Isn't it about time we moved some of them over to the project page? Rklawton 04:13, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I think there should be listed in "Deaths on RANDOM DAY" how the people died. Just short about that. That would save people having to go to the article to see it, what do you guys think about that idea? TheBlazikenMaster 23:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
P.s. When someone replies to this please leave a comment on my talk page. Because I'm not part of this project. TheBlazikenMaster 22:21, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
[moved to User talk:Relentless1234567#Note from new user by Brian Jason Drake 01:33, 29 March 2007 (UTC)]
What's with the lack of images? A recent edit adding the first image to July 21 was reverted. Brian Jason Drake 07:40, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Just based on recent observations of some DOTY entries that have been added (things such as kids who have articles because they are in some Nickelodeon "pop" group that will last for 6 months) is it about time that we set the bar for having names included higher than simply having an article? I wouldn't so much say that this is an argument about notability as it is about the quality of the DOTY pages.
Back of the envelope calculation, there are around 9000 articles on living people who's surnames begin with A (I got fed-up counting after that) - total estimate (for living people only) of, what, 50,000-100,000 + ? 365 days a year gives us ~ 200 entries per day for people born from ~ the 30's onwards. At the moment we look to be, on most days, averaging ~ 50 or so living. Obviously the fact that we only have 50ish means things are ok, but I thought I should post this comment as I am noticing quite a few entries appearing which are basically junk (Nickelodeon types, as mentioned above). They have articles (debates about the wikipedia wide notability criterion can be left to another place) and so our current guideline set makes it ok for them to have a DOTY entry - despite the fact that I think it is a useless entry which devalues the DOTY page rather than enhances it. Is it time we (those of us who patrol DOTY pages on a daily basis) started to raise the bar a bit for entries above and beyond "has an article"? SFC9394 20:32, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Was a redlink bot ever made to find redlink additions to the births/deaths sections? I imagine one would still be useful. Soosed 06:00, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
It seems that only certain dates use the Day template to begin their article, while the majority do not (see here). My opinion is that there should be conformity, so, should the Day template be deprecated or the other dates converted to using it? Any thoughts? Cheers. -- MZMcBride 22:52, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I just wonder: the project page links to the Wikipedia:Notability on a global scale over time page as a help to editors for deciding which events are notable and which aren't. But said page opens with the following message: "This Wikipedia page is currently inactive and is retained primarily for historical interest." My question: is the guideline page still "in force" or not? If not, where's the current page? Please help me out here. -- Wernher 20:22, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
IMDB has a nice feature for each day that I thought may be useful to put as a link next to the New York times, and BBC link. Here is an example of the page [1]. What do you all think? Remember 21:05, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
I've been noticing that many of the Wikicalendar articles have many different types of headings. For example January 1 has headings Events, Births, Deaths, Holidays and observances, By observance, By faith, By Country, By City, Day of the week, References, External Links. January 2 has Events, Births, Deaths, Holidays and observances, Religious Observances, External Links. January 3 has Events, Births, Deaths, Holidays and observances, External Links. And that's only the first three days of the year. I'm in favor of limiting the headings to Events, Births, Deaths, Holidays and observances, External Links. This would also conform more closely to the template. Anyone opposed? -- Mufka (user) (talk) (contribs) 02:14, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
An editor has begun adding Today in New Zealand History links to the date pages. I don't think they are necessary/appropriate so I wanted to discuss it here before removing them. I think what's there is enough and a line needs to be drawn somewhere. I also noted that the editor appears to be somehow affiliated with the site. Thoughts? -- Mufka (user) (talk) (contribs) 00:11, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Discussion on the topic of adding future events to Wikicalendar articles has come up on August 8. The best place to continue discussion is here. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 01:39, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
With respect to Future Events, if we know things are going to happen (i.e. the start of the Olympics) why can't they be listed? I only ask because my entry for the date of the Opening Ceremony of the 2010 Winter Games was removed. --Lord Tau 11:51, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
- Very rarely do we know of any significant world event before they happen. Sometimes it takes years to recognize an event's true impact. The start of the Olympics, past, present, or future, is not significant enough to be included as an event (with the exception of the first Olympics and perhaps the 1936 Olympics). Rklawton 13:54, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
The rest of this conversation is worth reading above. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 02:04, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm a new editor, so this may be an already oft-answered question. (And I may be in the wrong place to ask it. If so, apologies.) My question is this: what is the prefered way for an ordinary editor to deal with a probable non-notable entry? I'm not asking about notability criteria (I've read through those discussions). Nor am I looking to discuss a particular non-notable example (I see plenty of those debates as well). Today I used comment tags to remove likely non-notables from January 4 and August 22. Neither had wikipedia articles. Can I just go ahead and edit such entries out? Or is there a prefered template marker of some sort? Or another page to push such things to? Thanks. --Newbie looking for guidance. Hult041956 22:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC) (Added links to the dates for convenience.) Hult041956 22:06, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm at WP:3RR on October 3, removing redlinked birth/deaths, non-notable events, and miscellaneous external links to http://video.ivillage.com. We need to establish whether removal of redlinked birth/deaths is considered "reverting WP:VANDALISM", and not counted in 3RR. (I only monitor a few dates, but some seem to hit 3RR more often than others.) — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 18:51, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
I would like to suggest that iVillage.com's daily "On This day" video. I will gladly stop posting, as I am connected to iVillage.com, but would love to see it on wiki. The information from the video is taken from various, double-checked sources before put into the piece. I think it's a great source of info, as well as something that is unique from other other references, as it is a video. You can view the latest one by clicking here: http://video.ivillage.com/player/?fid=29619 Patricksandora 21:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Because September 11 was getting rather lengthy, I added subheaders to the events, births, and deaths sections, so that it is easier to read the page or to search it for particular events. I would appreciate comments on the usefulness of these subheaders, and on the possibility of extending this format to other pages. -- M @ r ē ino 15:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
If you want to add every day of the year to your watchlist, you can copy and paste everyday from this link instead of taking the time to add everything. - User talk:Calendar2123#Days of year - Calendar2123 23:17, 17 October 2007 (UTC) aka User:Michfan2123
Over the last few days, on a handful of unrelated pages (I'll dig up which ones if you'd like me to, the most recent was Lark Voorhies), I've seen something quite aggravating. A date, for example, January 5, was put in article like this:
Circumventing user-definable preferences for the purpose of favoring one style of date display. It's unnecessary and unproductive. Perhaps "vandalism" has connotations too strong for this activity, but it's something for which we ought to be looking out and correcting. Tromboneguy0186 20:49, 5 November 2007 (UTC)