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2024 Sakhir Formula 3 round

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Having checked through per WP:BEFORE, significant coverages ( WP:SIGCOV) are rather poor for most 2nd and below tier formula classes given the reason for this nominations. Sources consists of almost entirely of WP:PRIMARY. Additionally, Wikipedia is not a sportsheet for the most ardent of fans ( WP:NOTSTATS), whom anything less than first tier formula classes appeals to. WP:AFD will be a redirect or merge to 2024 FIA Formula 3 Championship (edit) and 2024 FIA Formula 2 Championship.

I am also nominating the following related pages for this same reason with more to be added in:

Further additions for this same reason above):

SpacedFarmer ( talk) 19:55, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Formula One is the top tier of the sport and one of the (if not the single) most prestigious category in motorsport as a whole. The F1 equivalent pages to the ones included in this nomination, using this article as an example, contain little more additional information. Reading WP:NOTSTATS, the only thing these pages are missing is a little more summarised information. The nominated pages display the information in clear, concise tables and they provide information that is not available in the main season articles ( 2024 Formula 2 Championship and 2024 FIA Formula 3 Championship) and add context to the relevant motorsport championship.

Romero13 ( talk) 10:01, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Fandom are always there for fans like you. SpacedFarmer ( talk) 14:05, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Motorsport-related deletion discussions. SpacedFarmer ( talk) 19:55, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:57, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bahrain-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 20:02, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep all - It's standard practice to routinely split out individual races from their parent (season) article. This keeps the parent article (in this case 2024 FIA Formula 3 Championship) readable. Your suggestion to merge, while also being a full admittance that there is notable content here, would cause the parent article to be far too cluttered. WP:SIZESPLIT and WP:NOMERGE once again apply here. ~~"...whom anything less than first tier formula classes appeals to." That is your personal opinion and one which quite obviously has a lot of disagreement.~~ ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 23:21, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Furthermore, suggesting 2024 FIA Formula 3 Championship as an ATD for the F2 races you bundled in is pure nonsense. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 23:24, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply
- What about WP:NOTSTATS? 5225_C ( talk • contributions) 05:52, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  "Where statistics are so lengthy as to impede the readability of the article, the statistics can be split into a separate article and summarized in the main article. (e.g., statistics from the main article 2012 United States presidential election were moved to a related article Nationwide opinion polling for the 2012 United States presidential election)." This language seems to support the splitting of these individual races. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 07:05, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  I wouldn't have minded them to exist if reliable third party sources exists to back them up, but no, we get sources consisting of mainly WP:PRIMARY or nothing and do we need an WP:INDISCRIMINATE amount of sports results to clutter Wikipedia with, especially those the most ardent minority of nerds bother with. There's always a home for them in Fandom. Nothing wrong with that site, though. People should think before shoving junk into Wikipedia. SpacedFarmer ( talk) 14:05, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  But you're not understanding that these are not standalone articles; their notability is established through sources which exist in the main article including Formula Scout and Autosport. The personal aspects of your rationale also really needs to stop, posthaste. Personal attacks like calling people "nerds" and calling their efforts "junk" are part of what got you sent to ANI before. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 15:19, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Saudi Arabia, France, Italy, Spain, and Australia. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 23:23, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep per above discussion. These are not standalone articles — if you nominate these few you should go all the way back to 2004 and list all rounds of previous F3000, GP2, Formula 2, GP3 and Formula 3 seasons. But as much as some lack sufficient prose, all are notable individually and WP:SECONDARY coverage exists. Nominator also gets a WP:TROUT for their uncivil comments. MSport1005 ( talk) 18:09, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
"But as much as some lack sufficient prose..." I noticed that 2024 FIA Formula 3 Championship does have summaries of the races in its prose, in line with the above-quoted section of WP:NOTSTATS which I opine supports our keep !votes. This is the exact standard which I believe we strive for on Wikipedia as a whole; SUMMARY-style prose in the main article, stats tables split out into their own sub-articles. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 18:21, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Australian Grand Prix F3 Support Race

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Following up on Talk:Australian Grand Prix#Merge proposal, there is support for deletion on the grounds of notability, with no suitable merge target as an alternative to deletion. The results are unreferenced; the single reference is not independent of the topic. Klbrain ( talk) 16:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Motorsport and Australia. Shellwood ( talk) 17:04, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete – Agreed, no independent notability. Any content worth preserving (I don't think there is any) could be merged to Australian Formula 3. 5225_C ( talk • contributions) 17:16, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete minor support event that hasn't being run for 17 years BFC Aspie ( talk) 17:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:01, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete per nom, 5225C. Other than Macau GP, most individual 2nd tier or below races are not notable, especially those sanctioned by the FIA. Most people but the most ardent fans don't pay attention to it too and don't remember who wom either, including Macau. SpacedFarmer ( talk) 20:33, 29 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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