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I note that you have reverted my unlinking of German, Argentine, and Dutch in our articles of Nico Göhler, Kas Haverkort, and Franco Colapinto respectively. My edit summary for removing these links was "Unlinking common words and/or phrases (and repeated linking of uncommon ones) - see WP:OVERLINK". For your information, that policy reads:

"the following are usually not linked: ... This generally includes major examples of: countries (e.g., Japan/Japanese, Brazil/Brazilian) ... nationalities and ethnicities (e.g., British, Chinese, Turkish, African-American, Nigerian"

Therefore, I will be reverting your changes. Edwardx ( talk) 17:16, 6 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Notice the title says "What generally should not be linked". Normally, motorsport articles and biographies follow their own MoS. F1 driver bios usually link to Formula One drivers from {country}, while others simply link to the nationality/ethnicity page. Just minor details anyway, but there's a custom. I reverted once and won't revert anymore. MSport1005 ( talk) 17:52, 6 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Thank you. I can see that we have Wikipedia:WikiProject Motorsport, but cannot find anything like a specific MoS that you refer to. In any event, I cannot see how Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking would not take precedence over any custom and practice that might have evolved for motorsport. Also, I will be removing flag icons, per MOS:INFOBOXFLAG, particularly as drivers compete on behalf of non-national teams, rather than their country. Edwardx ( talk) 18:26, 6 August 2021 (UTC) reply

No. Drivers represent teams and nations. Teams also represent nations. That's why they always have a flag/country code next to their names in official documents, and why the national anthem of their country (or country represented, rather) is played on the podium. This is a strangely common misconception – you won't be the first user to try remove flag icons from driver infoboxes. This is a matter that has been discussed multiple times. Bear in mind you will be reverted, either by me or by another user.

There is a policy regarding the use of flag icons in motorsport-related articles, which obviously prevails over MOS:INFOBOXFLAG. See MOS:SPORTFLAG, the documentation for {{ Infobox racing driver}} and its talk page. MSport1005 ( talk) 19:16, 6 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Looking at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons, this matter does appear to be under active discussion, so I will stop removing flags. Sorry about that. Edwardx ( talk) 19:24, 6 August 2021 (UTC) reply

No worries. Thanks for your understanding. MSport1005 ( talk) 19:27, 6 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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SSSB ( talk) 14:47, 15 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Please stop your disruptive editing.

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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Abbi Pulling, you may be blocked from editing. Unexplained reverts are disruptive. Drmies ( talk) 01:49, 28 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Hello. My revert was due to poorly-justified content removal ("doesn't meet notability because I say so", in a way) by an IP user which seemed to be making a number of unconstructive edits. I'll make sure I explain all my reverts in the future. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. MSport1005 ( talk) 10:42, 28 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Thank you. It's not about inconvenience--it's about explaining edits in a collaborative environment. BTW, there is nothing "essential" about the nationality parameter. The name, it seems to me, is the only thing that is essential. And I know, you pointed at the RfC--but that RfC is tremendously flawed, and the practice of putting these little lollipop flags everywhere is tremendously distracting. No one gains by deflating the value of the MOS. Drmies ( talk) 15:13, 28 August 2021 (UTC) reply

I find it very disrespectful of you that you basically reverted my edit here that was meant to further explain and reference an issue that was contested in the past without contacting me about it first. Miggie H ( talk) 13:45, 31 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Hello. My edit, as the summary explains, was a copyedit. There's no need to over-complicate the text, it was already clear ('Liechtenstein' works as an adjective too, if that's your point) and that is how these footnotes are generally written. It was not a revert in any way, and I maintained the source you provided as it is useful. I don't get the 'disrespectful' bit, nor your complaint. I don't think I need to notify every user whenever I make an edit. MSport1005 ( talk) 14:05, 31 August 2021 (UTC) reply

I admit that my sentence was a bit over-complicated, but I maintain that it was still concise enough for a footnote. Replacing it with the exact sentence that was there before is reverting, not copyediting, regardless of the fact that you kept the source that I added, and I would expect you to acknowledge that in your edit summary, if you don't feel like "notifying every user whenever you make an edit." My point had nothing to do with Liechtenstein as an adjective, but with clarifying the reasons for the Swiss flag, since it seemed to have been unclear to some users in the past, who even replaced it with the flag of Liechtenstein. Sorry for the "disrespectful" bit, I admit that it was unnecessary. Miggie H ( talk) 16:54, 31 August 2021 (UTC) reply

No problem. I understand my edit was technically a partial revert and I probably should've specified that, apologies. As for the content of the edit, my view is that "under a Swiss licence" conveys the same meaning as "under the Swiss flag because her licence was issued in Switzerland" in considerably fewer words, and in a simpler but clear manner. I think users changing the flag was down to them thinking it was a mistake and not spotting the footnote. MSport1005 ( talk) 17:25, 31 August 2021 (UTC) reply

I agree with your view regarding the content of my edit. I'm glad we sorted this out. Best regards. Miggie H ( talk) 17:30, 31 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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Apologies, my bad. MSport1005 ( talk) 21:26, 30 September 2021 (UTC) reply

Please have the courtesy to leave 2021 24 Hours of Le Mans alone until I've finished my copy edit. (One of your "edits" is grammatically incorrect, by the way.) This will help to avoid edit conflicts. Thanks! Twofingered Typist ( talk) 13:35, 19 October 2021 (UTC) reply

No problem, feel free to let me know when you're done. MSport1005 ( talk) 13:37, 19 October 2021 (UTC) reply

@ MSport1005: My c/e is complete. TfT — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twofingered Typist ( talk • contribs) 20:22, 19 October 2021 (UTC) reply

I will kindly ask you to revert your edits to the Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters season articles. You will note that individual team articles are not preceded by their commercial (sponsor) names as we use common names, and if you look at the majority of other series (for example, 2021 Supercars Championship or 2021 NASCAR Cup Series) teams are not referred to by commercial name – and those that do not require changing. Formula One is vastly different from other categories as the constructors are the common names, and in the past various entrants could operate a constructors' chassis. The only time this practice cannot be avoided is when a team is owned by a commercial entity (for example, WPS Racing) or if a common name cannot be sourced. MSportWiki ( talk) 09:24, 21 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Hello. The point here is that one thing is the team (i.e. the structure that operates the cars) and another the entrant (often coloquially and rather imprecisely referred to as 'team'). The name that has to appear in the championship's article is the official name under which the entrant is registered, and that should include the title sponsor if there is one. This is why in F1 2021 we see Uralkali Haas F1 Team linking to Haas' page, in F2 2021 we see UNI-Virtuosi Racing instead of simply Virtuosi and in FIA WEC 2021 there's Alpine Elf Matmut and not just Alpine—or Signature. Similarly, also in WEC the championship's article shows Realteam Racing while the linked page is called TDS Racing, and in WTCR 2021 we distinguish Comtoyou Team Audi Sport from Comtoyou DHL Team Audi Sport (same team different entrant, much like Team Abt Sportsline and Team Abt in DTM) instead of merging them or naming them "Comtoyou (#16, #22)" and "Comtoyou (#17, #32)".
Long story short: individual team articles indeed use common names and never commercial names (unless the team actually belongs to an existing brand, like Red Bull Racing and Rowe Racing), while pages of specific championship seasons use the formal name under which each entrant competed that year. MSport1005 ( talk) 14:12, 21 October 2021 (UTC) reply

what is the problem? the information was outdated and I updated the points' championship. I thought only those two tables were out of date, that's why I only modified only those two. And they are still out of date. -- Nordschleife 00 ( talk) 21:47, 25 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Merging the rows to just put a question mark is a bit... i don't know, weird. In any case, that's not the issue. I'm currently updating all 4 championships but your revert resulted in an edit conflict, which is quite problematic, so I'd kindly ask you to stop doing so. I can use an {{ In use}} in the future if you want me to but it's not like the page is undergoing major edits anyway. MSport1005 ( talk) 21:58, 25 October 2021 (UTC) reply

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Re [1] etc, please discuss at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Text_formatting#Use_of_bold_and_italics_in_the_legend_for_a_table. Mitch Ames ( talk) 23:10, 23 December 2021 (UTC) reply

That's what I'm saying. Discuss before editing, and for crying out loud, stop reverting. See edit summary at [2]. MSport1005 ( talk) 17:19, 24 December 2021 (UTC) reply

Re [3] (and possibly other similar) - please read MOS:HEADCAPS. "Use sentence case, not title case, ... The same applies to ... table headers". The word "Laps" is not a proper noun nor is it the start of a new sentence, so it ought not be capitalised. Mitch Ames ( talk) 23:25, 23 December 2021 (UTC) reply

There's very little room for discussion on this one. If it was "fastest lap" it should not be capitalised, but it's not. F/laps complicates readability and accessibility, F/Laps is preferable. MSport1005 ( talk) 17:24, 24 December 2021 (UTC) reply

F/laps complicates readability and accessibility — Agreed. Not because of the capitalisation, but because the slash is the wrong punctuation mark. It is "most often used to represent exclusive or inclusive or..." but presumably the heading is not intended to be read as "fastest and/or lap".

F/Laps is preferable — Disagree. I suggest that "F laps" of "F. laps" is preferable (assuming that "Fastest lap" takes too much space). In both cases "laps" is not capitalised because it is not a proper noun or a new sentence. The use of the full stop in the second case denotes an abbreviation; it is not a sentence delimiter (nor is the slash, in the current usage). Mitch Ames ( talk) 02:20, 25 December 2021 (UTC) reply

HumanBodyPiloter5 ( talk) 15:34, 8 January 2022 (UTC) reply

Hi MSport1005. In future, please do not make copies of articles nominated for deletion in the draftspace, as you did with for example Draft:Alex Connor during Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex Connor. You may have seen (I did ping you initially) the discussion where I asked for advice regarding this on Wikipedia talk:Requests for history merge#Appropriate action for drafts created as copy-paste moves of articles nominated for deletion, but in summary I was told I should ask you not to do this in future. Have a look at WP:EDITATAFD (which says you should not try to circumvent the result of the AfD, but instead propose draftifying, for example) and WP:COPYWITHIN (there is an issue where if the draft is recreated, the original edit history is lost) also. Thanks. A7V2 ( talk) 23:35, 30 January 2022 (UTC) reply

Yeah, no problem, I've given up on that practice already. Thanks for the input. MSport1005 ( talk) 00:34, 31 January 2022 (UTC) reply

I will be listing Draft:Levente Révész, Draft:Jonathan Browne (racing driver), and Draft:Alex Connor for repair at WP:Requests for history merge. You do not need to take any action, but you may see the deletions and restores in your watchlist. Flatscan ( talk) 05:28, 5 February 2022 (UTC) reply

...for keeping up with the post-race penalties in F4 UAE and FRAC. "MarinanGOAT" had me laughing, didn't expect it! Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 20:58, 6 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Hahaha, no worries! I wasn't expecting a reaction to it tbh, glad you liked it! MSport1005 ( talk) 21:05, 6 February 2022 (UTC) reply

How can we stop RxxingAddict from adding driver numbers without any source? He seems to like edit wars and I have better things to do.. H4MCHTR ( talk) 12:55, 16 February 2022 (UTC) reply

@ H4MCHTR: I really don't know but it's getting annoying... He appears to be a teenager with a lot of spare time and no concern for wikipedia's rules, who sees edit wars as a game ("ur turn lol"). But all he does is just add random driver numbers and unsourced content, nothing in the way of vandalism—so I don't see any basis on which to block him yet. MSport1005 ( talk) 13:07, 16 February 2022 (UTC) reply

What I experienced (e.g. at 2022 GB3 Championship) was that after some time, he starts to get angry and adds nonsense, which could be a basis to block him because of vandalism. H4MCHTR ( talk) 13:14, 16 February 2022 (UTC) reply

The reason why I did it wasn't just because of the entry list, he's often mentioned as Max in sources: [4] (tons of other Scout articles), [5], [6] (even the team he was driving for as). Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 12:37, 17 February 2022 (UTC) reply

After a quick revision on Google I'd tend to agree with you, but the fact that he still uses "Maksim" on social media and especially for his logo leaves me undecided. In any case, it doesn't really matter for now—if he ever gets to the point where he's eligible for a Wiki page the distinction should be clearer. MSport1005 ( talk) 20:00, 17 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Hi! Since I saw you editing the page, thought I might as well look for advice. In the Sauber Karting Team, there are two drivers (Monza and Wiśniewski) that don't seem to be under Sauber anymore checking their social media, they aren't using their suits nor mentioning Sauber Karting Team anymore. Sauber Karting's official account only mentions Costa and David too. What should I do in this case, as there's no way to find sources about moves like these sadly? As usual, Sauber's completely outdated for their Junior teams, so it's impossible to use that. Regards, Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 13:59, 16 March 2022 (UTC) reply

Nevermind, I've noticed that [7] mentions Sauber Karting Team will field only David and Costa. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 15:12, 16 March 2022 (UTC) reply

@ Jovanmilic97: Hi! Sorry, I wasn't available. I see you cleared your doubts yourself. Personally I would have removed them even without the existence of a source explicitly confirming their departure. If Sauber only talks about Costa and David when presenting their academies then we should only list Costa and David; it is enough to deduce that Monza and Wisniewski aren't with them anymore—even more so when other signs point towards it too. MSport1005 ( talk) 17:39, 16 March 2022 (UTC) reply

Yeah, I think you nailed it all. Hard to track Sauber Academy, because it's so, so, so out of sight and without any consistent info, discounting Pourchaire. It's actually good we finally got an update on their academy. But (again), they seriously need to hire someone to update their website for once... Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 18:59, 16 March 2022 (UTC) reply

@ Jovanmilic97: There's a reason people call it the Pourchaire Academy! Certainly doesn't look like they're taking the single-seater side of the academy too seriously, neither mediatically nor sportively... Faria probably just paid his way in, I'd assume. MSport1005 ( talk) 20:26, 16 March 2022 (UTC) reply

Hello. I noticed you recently added a section to my talk page reporting an edit I made to your talk page as vandalism. I apologize for making the mistake of adding the (EastEnders) disambiguation to the Luke Browning link. However, this simply does not constitute vandalism. This is such a minor mistake it can simply be corrected and moved on from. It's not like I attempted to deface the page, mock it, make it into a joke, or put in false information. In fact, the linked page to vandalism specifically states any good-faith edit is not vandalism, as my edit was. I had recently requested (and gotten accepted) a move from Luke Browning (racing driver) to Luke Browning, and was fixing directed links. The old page linked to a character from the show EastEnders, and I guess I accidently added back the EastEnders tag when fixing those links. Vandalism is narrowly defined as intented to "obstruct or defeat the project's purpose". It is an impossible claim to make that my edit is intended to obstruct or defeat the purpose of the page. Please do not report people for vandalism where no vandalism occurs. Debartolo2917 ( talk) 16:50, 31 March 2022 (UTC) reply

Don't worry. Your edits didn't strictly constitute clear-cut vandalism, which is why I only used the {{ Uw-vandalism2}} warning. I didn't report you and you're not at risk of getting blocked. In this case it being one of my sandboxes was an aggravation, but mistakes can happen and we're here to fix them. MSport1005 ( talk) 17:53, 31 March 2022 (UTC) reply

Hi again! I've read about Rosso retiring so I went to see his wiki page, but this... seems like a notability issue case. Doesn't meet WP:GNG nor WP:NMOTORSPORT and the only coverage he got was routine announcement signings. I wanted to check up on your opinion before bringing it to WP:AFD, but it looks like a clear and cut case to me. Regards, Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 10:45, 3 April 2022 (UTC) reply

@ Jovanmilic97: Hello! I actually disagree. The article itself lacks non-routine sources, but I see there are more than enough to choose from on the internet, mainly in Italian. Rosso is also a fairly accomplished driver considering his short career, despite always being in mediocre machinery. Lack of budget has hindered him but he was one of the standouts, most promising kids out of the current crop of Italian drivers, alongside the likes of Minì, Fornaroli, Antonelli, Pizzi... He evidently hasn't made it far enough to get to WP:NMOTORSPORT, but he's a GNG pass for me. I plan on working on the article as soon as I can, possibly tomorrow. Regards, MSport1005 ( talk) 18:22, 3 April 2022 (UTC) reply

Heh, knew it! I was kinda scared to start an AFD on this one, because I had a hunch on this response, and I don't really have enough free time right now to fully invest on non-straightforward discussions. I'll too look into sources myself (though I have to admit I wasn't impressed from some cursory search I've seen). Thanks for replying as always, Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 18:40, 3 April 2022 (UTC) reply

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The section at List of Formula One driver numbers is unsourced, so it's correct to tag it as such. It may be "easily verifiable". but someone should actually verify it then. Because the numbers for the practice drivers seem like they'll be hard to source after all. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 21:02, 22 April 2022 (UTC) reply

All are easily verifiable on the F1 website. MSport1005 ( talk) 21:43, 22 April 2022 (UTC) reply

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Hello! Apologies for the incorrect editing. However, I was somewhat confused as to what you meant. If they only ran at Le Mans, does that mean that the races results should not be added, despite the fact that they still ran during the season? Thanks! Nascarbball24 ( talk) 02:18, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply

@ Nascarbball24: Just look at the standings at 2022 FIA World Endurance Championship, you'll understand it easier. Le Mans is a special event in that it combines entries from WEC with entries from other championships. Those entries from other championships (the one-offs) are omitted in the WEC standings. So for example Alpine finished 5th in Le Mans behind the #709, but they're deemed to have finished 4th by the WEC standings because the #709 was a one-off. MSport1005 ( talk) 16:50, 17 June 2022 (UTC) reply

The LMP2 class of the European Le Mans Series needs specifiying despite being the top class in terms of the cars pace because unlike the former LMP1 class of the FIA World Endurance Championship or the Pro class of the GT World Challenge Europe, the LMP2 entries in the ELMS are classified in an LMP2 championship and not an overall championship, which leaving out the LMP2 specification implies. Formula Downforce ( talk) 23:16, 12 July 2022 (UTC) reply

Not sure how that argument holds itself... In WEC pre-2020 there wasn't an overall championship, it was the two prototype classes and the two GTE classes being combined to form the world championship, as well as the separate LMP2 and GTE Am (plus private LMP1 back in the day) trophy standings. If you consider prototype and GT independent, then you might as well not specify the LMP3 class when editing Le Mans Cup... Meanwhile GTWC is a completely different case because the cars between classes are the same, there's no BoP, the difference is made by the drivers. As such, it makes obvious sense to show both the overall and class results. MSport1005 ( talk) 08:09, 13 July 2022 (UTC) reply

I don't get why LMP3 in the Le Mans Cup should be specified but the LMP2 in the ELMS shouldn't? Formula Downforce ( talk) 18:03, 13 July 2022 (UTC) reply

? MSport1005 ( talk) 18:05, 13 July 2022 (UTC) reply

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Fabienne Wohlwend and List of female racing drivers, you may be blocked from editing. Unexplained reverts are disruptive. 110.149.133.143 ( talk) 23:01, 25 July 2022 (UTC) reply

As User:Formula Downforce told you in reply to the identical message you left on their talk page, you are the one being disruptive. We are reverting your unconstructive edits and explaining them in the edit summary, so try think of a better argument. MSport1005 ( talk) 19:36, 27 July 2022 (UTC) reply

Hello! I have seen that a few months ago they deleted Santiago Porteiro's article because it was almost empty of information. I have created it in the Spanish wikipedia (and I have completed Felix Porteiro's article), in case you want to recreate it in the English wiki by translating the spanish one. Sentoan ( talk) 17:40, 2 November 2022 (UTC) reply

Hi! That's a great job, I have to say. Ultimately it comes 4 months after the deletion though, and new (or old but unexplored) SIGCOV doesn't seem to have appeared, so... I don't think we have grounds to recreate it. I still believe an article on Porteiro Motorsport would be more useful. MSport1005 ( talk) 22:48, 2 November 2022 (UTC) reply

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on 2022 24 Hours of Le Mans. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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@ Miniapolis: There is no edit war. I literally only reverted once. What on earth are you talking about? MSport1005 ( talk) 16:39, 7 December 2022 (UTC) reply

You revert things like vandalism, not good-faith edits; EnthusiastWorld37 had requested a copyedit in preparation for a GAN, and no one (including you) owns an article. Auto-racing articles are difficult to copyedit because they're usually overlinked, overly detailed and violate guidelines such as MOS:FLAGCRUFT, and mindless reversions with uncivil edit summaries make good editors think twice about bothering with them. Mini apolis 16:50, 7 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Now this is frankly inappropriate. The fact that you warned me for an edit war that hasn't even taken place was already ludicrous—but an excusable mistake. But the fact that you're now doubling down and accusing me of unconstructive editing is not acceptable. 2022 24 Hours of Le Mans is an article I've had on my watchlist for almost a year, and if I see edits (whether vandalistic or good-faith) that make it worse —and more specifically, distort the meaning of certain sentences and present grammar mistakes— then I will 100% revert them. Could I have worded the edit summaries a bit differently? Possibly, but it was late at night and at least I took the time to fix the copyedits. Feel free to explain to me how that is a "mindless revision". You revert things like vandalism, not good-faith edits? That is blatantly false and a contradiction of Wikipedia's guidelines. MSport1005 ( talk) 17:04, 7 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Please be careful with reversions to edits like this one. It was not vandalism like you claimed and your reversion restored quite a bit of side-by-side linking that should be avoided per WP:SEAOFBLUE. -- Falcadore ( talk) 20:17, 26 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Not true. This IP user replaced official team names with made-up names. If a team is entered as (example) "Mercedes-AMG Team GetSpeed" we can not replace it with "GetSpeed Performance". It's fictional and unconstructive. In such cases, WP:SEAOFBLUE is almost inevitable. Another user has already reverted your revert of my edit, and I urge you not to revert further. I'd rather keep an eye on this IP, as it has continued to vandalise articles in similar fashion. MSport1005 ( talk) 17:16, 30 December 2022 (UTC) reply

It is neither fictional nor unconstructive. You are just refusing to make a choice and thus link everything. You link to the team and not the sponsor. Because linking to the sponsor does not contribute to increase knowledge of the motor racing team. One of the purposes of SEAOFBLUE is to assist with concise writing. Not only do you not have to link everything, it is preferable to only link to one article. A link like [GetSpeed Performance|Mercedes-AMG Team GetSpeed] is easily achievable and I suggest you do this going forward instead of bloating articles with links that do not assist with explaining the subject. -- Falcadore ( talk) 02:36, 1 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Mercedes-AMG is not a sponsor. MSport1005 ( talk) 02:34, 2 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Also, to expand on my reply: no one's making this about SEAOFBLUE except you. And while I think it is fair that you bring this issue up, this IP user wasn't just changing the links. They were literally changing the text. They were replacing the actual team names with random made-up names they come up with. That's exactly what the word fictional means. Now I'd like to know why adding fiction to Wikipedia isn't unconstructive. MSport1005 ( talk) 02:42, 2 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Apologies. I only saw your comments just now, I am new to Wikipedia editing and therefore don't know much about the format of this branch of the website. Reading the edit back again I can understand your perspective, I will remove the post and make any necessary alterations before reposting, if indeed I do repost. 2001:8003:325F:9801:D946:88CE:89F2:A155 ( talk) 02:25, 19 February 2023 (UTC) reply

Hello, MSport1005,

Whenever draftify a main space article, please use Twinkle to tag the original page for speedy deletion, CSD R2. It will help bring it to the attention of administrators so they can delete the cross-namespace redirect. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:49, 15 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the suggestion! I'll have a read on how Twinkle works to use it in the future. MSport1005 ( talk) 14:09, 15 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Mate I was in the process of adding points jeez RxxingAddict ( talk) 16:16, 25 June 2023 (UTC) reply

You can do that in a single edit. I've encountered unupdated points standings —or even random DNFs in races that are still ongoing— way too much in the last year or so. If you do multiple edits in your sandbox it's fine, if you do them in a live article it's annoying. MSport1005 ( talk) 16:24, 25 June 2023 (UTC) reply

I do it separately to avoid edit conflicts, it is easier for me so my page doesn’t accidentally reset. RxxingAddict ( talk) 16:28, 25 June 2023 (UTC) reply

you didn't have to remove my whole edit just change wurz's number? User:RxxingAddict ( talk) 13:43, 20 July 2023 (UTC) reply

I was avoiding an edit conflict. MSport1005 ( talk) 13:52, 20 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Hello,

I wanted to thank you for your work on this page. It has been a great help for his career. Is it possible for you to update the page to include his recent podium at the Spa 24 hours in the Pro-Am category, this is a notable result from his 2023 season. I wish to add it but my WIKI skills are non existent. Thank you GeoF3 ( talk) 17:18, 25 August 2023 (UTC) reply

I think it's best if a deletion review of Joshua Dufek's page is started. 62.165.255.150 ( talk) 16:28, 3 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Borderline I think? But the community will decide. 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:40, 4 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Hello, MSport1005,

Please review WP:DRAFTIFY for guidance on when it is appropriate to draftify an article. It can happen as the result of an AFD discussion but is primarily for newly created articles. You draftified an article that was several years old which is inappropriate. Please seek other solutions if an article has problems like a) work on improving the article yourself, b) tag it noting any problems that exist or c) pursue one of the accepted forms of deletion.

If you have questions about draftifying articles, please bring them to the Teahouse. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:10, 26 December 2023 (UTC) reply

I tagged it in February 2022, it's been almost two years and nothing (and I mean nothing) has changed. The main contributor, who's extremely unconstructive and seems closely linked to the subject, even had the audacity to remove the tag recently. But thanks anyway. I might go for AfD when I have time. MSport1005 ( talk) 20:33, 26 December 2023 (UTC) reply

It's got nothing to with wether I like edit wars, which is a stupid thing to say anyway. I am just going by the latest one I saw. S ( talk) 19:16, 10 January 2024 (UTC) reply

From what I gather, Emely de Heus is also part of the Red Bull Junior Team alongside the Al Qubaisi sisters. So I feel Red Bull should be mentioned in the supporting teams section with a note as I did. D4R1U5 ( talk) 12:38, 2 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Nowhere do the announcements state any of the 3 drivers is joining the Red Bull Junior Team. This is WP:OR. MSport1005 ( talk) 12:42, 2 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Then I would like to know why we mention Chloe Chambers under the Haas development program or Tina Hausmann under the Aston development program. Neither of their sources state they are in the respective academies. D4R1U5 ( talk) 12:52, 2 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Unlike Red Bull's junior team, Haas' and Aston Martin's driver development programs haven't been publicised as such for a while – Haas since the Delétraz days, Aston since the Drugovich announcement. Those tables list affiliated/development drivers, as a more general concept. I concede the section name is misleading though. MSport1005 ( talk) 13:01, 2 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Ok I see your point. D4R1U5 ( talk) 13:09, 2 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Wurz was involved in a collision with Rifai which took him out, this was after they restarted the race? S ( talk) 15:01, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply

You're right. The race 1 classification has Wurz as (what I assume is) a DNS and Abuzenadah as a DNF, but it should be the other way round. Will fix that now. MSport1005 ( talk) 15:16, 3 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Why are you claiming that Sportscar365 is not a good enough source, as compared to dailysportscar?

IMHO, they are both as good as each other. I see no reason why a sportscar365 source should be removed? JustCharlie99 ( talk) 17:36, 9 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Both are as good as each other – I favoured DSC in this case because S365 focused too much on Niederhauser. Also the page heavily relies on S365 articles so a bit of variety is necessary. MSport1005 ( talk) 17:43, 9 February 2024 (UTC) reply

MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 15:21, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Most of my draft pages won't even see the light of day, so what's the point? I have no idea how it's a issue, it makes the pages look ugly imo.

I also have learning difficulties so that's why I English isn't on point.

Don't take any of this the wrong way, I'm not slightly frustrated. It's not written it the rules and Wikipedia is a volunteer run website. BurningBlaze05 ( talk) 20:35, 4 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Most wikipedia pages have introduction OVER the infobox page. Or does it only apply to draft pages, if so then sorry. BurningBlaze05 ( talk) 20:36, 4 March 2024 (UTC) reply

All BLPs have infobox over introduction. That's the only way to align them both at the top of the page. Check Barack Obama, Bob Marley, Michael Phelps or any page you like — you'll see the order is 1) maintenance tags and templates, 2) infobox, 3) introduction. Same applies to articles of events, such as Russian invasion of Ukraine or 2024 Formula One World Championship.

It's a mere aesthetical detail, but yes, the purpose of my edits was to conform your drafts to wiki style. And yes, I spent some precious time doing that. And my arm hurts!

You also don't need to apologise. At Wikipedia we all learn as we go. Take care. MSport1005 ( talk) 20:53, 4 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Apologies. I'm still not caught up with wikipedia etiquette. I can get worked up over small shit.

(I'm a Eurovision, Tennis and Geography fan too) BurningBlaze05 ( talk) 21:58, 4 March 2024 (UTC) reply

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. MSportWiki ( talk) 04:51, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply

I will leave a message on the current Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DriverDatabase1 ( talk • contribs) 14:55, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Hello MSport1005,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Lola B07/17 for deletion, because it's a redirect that seems implausible or is an unlikely search term.

If you don't want Lola B07/17 to be deleted, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks!

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Drowssap SMM 02:34, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Hello, MSport1005

Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username DrowssapSMM and it's nice to meet you :-)

I wanted to let you know that I've asked for a discussion about the redirect Lola B07/17, created by you. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 31 § Lola B07/17.

If you have any questions, please leave a comment here and prepend it with {{Re|DrowssapSMM}}. And, don't forget to sign your reply with ~~~~ . Thanks!

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Drowssap SMM 19:48, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply