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The result was delete. j⚛e decker talk 23:09, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Tom Davies (footballer, born 1993)
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Non-notable footballer, their highest level of senior football is Conference (Tier 5). As a result, they fail WP:NFOOTY and WP:GNG. Joseph2302 ( talk) 22:18, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
- This is incorrect, as I told you on the page talk, Fleetwood Town FC are in the Football League and he was playing for them only last year. Thank-you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhilRichardsGFF ( talk • contribs) 22:20, 25 May 2015 (UTC) — PhilRichardsGFF ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- I put this up before you wrote on the talkpage. Also, you've added random numbers of appearances without a reliable source, whereas the only source I can find, [1], says he's never played a first-team game for Fleetwood. Joseph2302 ( talk) 22:33, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
- I would also like to add that several other Lincoln City players have Wiki pages: /info/en/?search=Lincoln_City_F.C.#First_team - I think you're being a bit of a jobs worth here to be honest.
- There are plenty of sources proving beyond doubt the validity and existence of the player:
- http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31757407
- http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26527586 PhilRichardsGFF ( talk) 22:47, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
- yes, but all of them have played in a
fully-professional league, whereas the evidence suggests Davies hasn't (unless there is a
reliable source that says he made a first-team appearance for Fleetwood). Therefore they pass
WP:NFOOTY, and he doesn't. Also,
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is rarely a good argument.
Joseph2302 (
talk) 22:55, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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User:PhilRichardsGFF you wrote above 'I think you're being a bit of a jobs worth here to be honest' - what an offensive and ludicrous attack on Joseph2302. People wouldn't have to spend their time on these matters if you weren't on Wikipedia unashamedly promoting the commercial interests of your company and its clients.
AusLondonder (
talk) 23:00, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
- @ PhilRichardsGFF: Considering you initially made this article about the wrong player, I think it's very strange that you seem to think I'm not doing things correctly. Joseph2302 ( talk) 23:04, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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User:PhilRichardsGFF you wrote above 'I think you're being a bit of a jobs worth here to be honest' - what an offensive and ludicrous attack on Joseph2302. People wouldn't have to spend their time on these matters if you weren't on Wikipedia unashamedly promoting the commercial interests of your company and its clients.
AusLondonder (
talk) 23:00, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
- yes, but all of them have played in a
fully-professional league, whereas the evidence suggests Davies hasn't (unless there is a
reliable source that says he made a first-team appearance for Fleetwood). Therefore they pass
WP:NFOOTY, and he doesn't. Also,
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is rarely a good argument.
Joseph2302 (
talk) 22:55, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
*Delete: Not an expert on football but seems to fail WP:NFOOTY. While not relevant to deletion the article has been created for commercial purposes, anyway by an editor with a WP:COI. First version was sickeningly promotional and was mixed-up with another 'client'. Wondering if creator should be reported to ANI for this behaviour. AusLondonder ( talk) 23:07, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NFOOTY and in my opinion fails GNG as well. Best to just nuke it given very obvious COI and let some time pass, allow someone unconnected to create the article. It's not like there's a shortage of established editors who create footballer bios anyway. § FreeRangeFrog croak 23:28, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
- @ FreeRangeFrog: I basically rewrote it all already, so the COI isn't a reason to nuke. Basically, they wrote a semi-promotional article about the wrong player, and then added random numbers of appearances to the infobox, so I rewrote most of it, according to actual sources. Joseph2302 ( talk) 23:36, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep I have added more information and several more sources to the article with inline citations so now there are all these sources: [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]. With all of these sources that have significant coverage of Tom Davies the article passes WP:GNG, the subject is notable, and therefore should be retained at Wikipedia. מען טאָר ניט עסן די חלה פֿאַר דער המוציא ( talk) 01:16, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
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- Delete - He has not played in a fully pro league, meaning the article fails WP:NSPORT, and the coverage he has received is routine sports journalism that does not amount to significant coverage, meaning the article also fails WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 03:50, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - Fails WP:NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Everything noted above is routine and mainly local sports journalism which does not count towards GNG. A vary low-level, semi-professional at best journeyman footballer. Fenix down ( talk) 15:04, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - never played in a fully-pro league, so fails WP:NFOOTY, and no evidence of in-depth coverage in reliable sources so fails WP:GNG. Additional sources provided above are simply to stats databases and very cursory news announcements -- ChrisTheDude ( talk) 15:55, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 17:54, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
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