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The result was delete. Tone 10:16, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
Maesot City F.C.
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Fails WP:FOOTYN as this club has not played in the country' national cup. Fails GNG this team was formed last year and the 3 sources are all routine coverage "Logo competition" brief "team bio" and brief "team to be formed" coverage. Dom from Paris ( talk) 16:53, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
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- Comment: The only in-depth coverage I could identify was the FourFourTwo.com profile piece (3 paragraphs). [1] The other news sources cited in the article appear to be talking about Nakhon Mae Sot, a different team. -- Paul_012 ( talk) 11:45, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability, no significant coverage or achievements. Giant Snowman 12:32, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- Delete The WP:FOOTYN failure is obvious and I concur. They've apparently played 1 game. That said, there was certainly a possibility, if slim, that they are notable for some other reason than playing. I searched news and found nothing. Doing a general search, if you eliminate social media results, there's nothing about them out there. This is just an amateur club of no notability of any kind. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 23:41, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
- Delete FOOTYN criteria failure doesn't matter, and isn't a valid deletion rationale. But failure to meet the GNG is. — Insertcleverphrasehere ( or here) 14:19, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
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Insertcleverphrasehere: I am sorry but I disagree with you as per
WP:PERESSAY. FOOTYN is an essay and failure to meet project specific guidelines essays is a legitimate argument to use in deletion discussions as is meeting project specific guidelines. As per point A: #3 in
WP:BEFORE "further related essays at Category:Wikipedia notability." are part of the reading list and FOOTYN is in that category. Meeting these guidelines is an almost surefire way of having an article kept so pointing out that the project specific guidelines are not met is a way of showing that a BEFORE search has been done and that that argument cannot be used. There are a very large number of deletion discussions that are kept on the basis of these kind of essays even if GNG is not shown to have been met. --
Dom from Paris (
talk) 16:59, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- @ Domdeparis: I said it isn't a valid reason for deleting. While FOOTYN might espouse some views on what the Football Wikiproject thinks is generally notable, it says nothing about what is not notable. Given your subsequent comment I see now that you weren't using it as a reason for deleting, but rather just pointing it out so that others didn't have to bother searching, which is fine I guess. GNG is what is important, and I am glad that you based most of your deletion rationale on that. — Insertcleverphrasehere ( or here) 04:42, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
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Insertcleverphrasehere: I am sorry but I disagree with you as per
WP:PERESSAY. FOOTYN is an essay and failure to meet project specific guidelines essays is a legitimate argument to use in deletion discussions as is meeting project specific guidelines. As per point A: #3 in
WP:BEFORE "further related essays at Category:Wikipedia notability." are part of the reading list and FOOTYN is in that category. Meeting these guidelines is an almost surefire way of having an article kept so pointing out that the project specific guidelines are not met is a way of showing that a BEFORE search has been done and that that argument cannot be used. There are a very large number of deletion discussions that are kept on the basis of these kind of essays even if GNG is not shown to have been met. --
Dom from Paris (
talk) 16:59, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
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