Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jan_Matěj References

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The result was delete. Delete all per overwhelming consensus -- RoySmith (talk) 05:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC) reply

Jan Matěj

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested without providing a reason. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 04:13, 10 February 2014 (UTC) reply

I am also nominating the following articles for similar reasons. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 04:17, 10 February 2014 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 04:17, 10 February 2014 (UTC) reply

Delete all – the PRODs were removed with the message "Let's wait a couple of weeks when the season starts and see who is playing on this fully professional team before deleting" but WP:CRYSTAL does not allow for advance creation of players who may be notable in the future. None of them have received significant coverage from multiple secondary sources and none of them have played football in a fully professional league. C 679 05:52, 10 February 2014 (UTC) reply

Delete all - (or incubate all). There's a good chance a number of these will meet our criteria very soon but they don't yet. The only one I'm not sure about is Vlastimil Veselý for whom there seems to be a few instances of WP:NOENG coverage but it's confused by coverage of someone else with the same name. Stalwart 111 11:13, 10 February 2014 (UTC) reply

Re: Veselý, is playing for your country at U21 level not enough? - filelakeshoe ( t / c) 13:08, 10 February 2014 (UTC) reply

Yeah, I think that's what the coverage relates to. Stalwart 111 06:47, 11 February 2014 (UTC) reply
Not unless the general notability guideline is met. This is explicitly stated in WP:NFOOTY (senior international match). C 679 11:24, 11 February 2014 (UTC) reply

Exactly right, as is your comment below. This should be a reactive process, not a pre-emptive process. Stalwart 111 11:54, 11 February 2014 (UTC) reply

Delete - all appear to fail both WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 12:43, 10 February 2014 (UTC) reply
Incubate all - yes, WP:CRYSTAL and all that, but it's really not that long til the season starts. - filelakeshoe ( t / c) 13:08, 10 February 2014 (UTC) reply

Veselý is not even listed on the club's squad at their website, and Macej is probably third-choice 'keeper, thus being very unlikely to play professional football this season. No specific comment on the likelihood of the others playing, but articles should be created reactively and not proactively with this in mind. C 679 11:29, 11 February 2014 (UTC) reply

Delete all - per CRYSTAL. Let's see who actually plays and passes notability guidelines and create articles then, rather than keeping a load of articles on players who might at some point. Fenix down ( talk) 12:19, 11 February 2014 (UTC) reply

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Delete all - Fail both WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL JMHamo ( talk) 16:45, 13 February 2014 (UTC) reply
Delete None of them seem to have significant independent coverage or meet WP:FOOTY. Some of the them have played for junior national teams and might someday play for the national team, but right now it's WP:TOOSOON. 204.126.132.231 ( talk) 13:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC) reply
Delete all None of these meet notability requirements. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 06:33, 20 February 2014 (UTC) reply

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