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WP:CRYSTAL. We don't know if there will be a bid by England to host the 2030 World Cup. Indeed, most of the recent reporting has suggested if there is a bid involving England, it would also involve other neighbouring countries.
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GiantSnowman 12:33, 20 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete - per nom and CRYSTAL.
GiantSnowman 12:32, 20 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete The article is just guess work at the moment, with no real information. LugnutsFire Walk with Me 16:36, 20 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep through the sourcing, passes
WP:GNG. Per
WP:CRYSTAL, It is appropriate to report discussion and arguments about the prospects for success of future proposals and projects or whether some development will occur, if discussion is properly referenced. That is the case here.
SportingFlyertalk 17:58, 20 September 2018 (UTC)reply
But we don't even know if this will occur.
WP:CRYSTAL states "Individual scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place" (my emphasis). The recent reporting indicates that any bid would be a UK, or UK and Ireland, bid. Therefore an "England" World Cup bid is far from certain to take place.
Jmorrison230582 (
talk) 20:29, 20 September 2018 (UTC)reply
It's not really an "event," though, and it passes
WP:GNG regardless.
SportingFlyertalk 14:53, 25 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep A bid is not an event, it's a proposal, so the part of CRYSTAL delete !voters are citing does not apply. Rather, the part cited by
SportingFlyer is what we need to look at, as it discusses future proposals. And right now, it's a future proposal, which is allowed under CRTYSTAL if it passes GNG, which it does due to the ample sourcing.
Smartyllama (
talk) 12:47, 25 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment I'm in two minds about this. Is this article useful to readers? Maybe. Is it still TOOSOON? Maybe. We really shouldn't be covering this until they have actually lodged an intent to make the bid, as right now it is just some backroom discussions that may or may not come to anything. This article is basically a bunch of quotes and opinions from various people and groups speculating on a possible British bid. Its a bit of a flimsy rationale for a standalone article at this stage. Maybe merging it to a short section over at
2030 FIFA World Cup would be the wisest choice? — Insertcleverphrasehere(
or here) 14:29, 25 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete. It is referenced 'chat'. Not quite twitter but not encyclopedic.
Szzuk (
talk) 13:19, 28 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 14:11, 28 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete. I think it is too soon. While a bid is possible and is being discussed more than when the similar article was deleted, until things firm up (eg whether it is not clear yet whether this will be a stand alone bid by the English FA, a joint England and other UK nations bid or indeed a UK and Republic of Ireland bid) it is best covered as part of the 2030 world cup article.
Dunarc (
talk) 23:00, 2 October 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete - until there is confirmation that a bid will be made, it is too soon to have an article. ICPH makes good points in his comment, and I would agree that including a short section at
2030 FIFA World Cup could be a good option until the associations confirm whether or not they will actually bid.
21.colinthompson (
talk) 17:26, 3 October 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete for now as all the sources are speculative about whether England will actually bid. Fine to recreate if/when a proper, official England bid is announced.
Joseph2302 (
talk) 11:14, 6 October 2018 (UTC)reply
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