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The result was delete. Sandstein 15:20, 22 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Non-notable amateur football club per
WP:FOOTYN. Never participated in national championship, has played in the Fogo island premier division (currently second division) for a few years, but never won.
MarkussepTalk 09:10, 27 August 2018 (UTC)reply
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CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 11:43, 27 August 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment I don't understand, what has changed from the keep that was decided in the
previous discussion? They competed in their National Championship as per
this source that was given in the discussion. NZFC(talk)(cont) 10:03, 27 August 2018 (UTC)reply
I was surprised about that conclusion, because the cited reference does not say that they competed in the national competition. According to the source you quote, they competed in the Fogo Opening Tournament, the Fogo Regional Championship and the Fogo Regional Cup, and won neither of those. I checked the participants of the Cape Verde Championships since 1996, and they were not in them.
MarkussepTalk 10:47, 27 August 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep Did the nominator review the previous consensus? Source provided above to qualify
WP:FOOTYN.
Govvy (
talk) 12:03, 27 August 2018 (UTC)reply
See my comment above. Contrary to what was stated in the previous AfD, Desportivo never played in the national competition. They did not win the Fogo Island League (which would have given them access to the national championship), they won the Fogo Second Division competition a few times (which gave them promotion to the Fogo Premier Division).
MarkussepTalk 13:53, 27 August 2018 (UTC)reply
I really still don't see a problem, as far as I can see if they have played in the national cup competition in Cape Verde playing four games, loosing three and drawing one. This is obviously a grey area because all the football is amateur level but I am inclined to stay with keep.
Govvy (
talk) 15:15, 27 August 2018 (UTC)reply
When did they play in the national cup competition? I couldn't find that.
MarkussepTalk 15:42, 27 August 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep per above and previous AFD discussion.
GiantSnowman 11:13, 28 August 2018 (UTC)reply
Weak Delete fails
WP:FOOTYN and
WP:GNG. I'm a weak delete on
WP:GNG grounds since couple articles have been written on the club but they all appear to be from the same press release, I don't read Portuguese anyways so giving a slight benefit of the doubt, and other sources might be available. I cannot find any verification on rsssf.com the club ever played in the national competition or in the national cup. Was originally kept on a mistaken assumption between the island's first and second division. If kept, needs a massive cleanup.
SportingFlyertalk 11:58, 28 August 2018 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:20, 4 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Need more input please.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton |
Talk 15:07, 12 September 2018 (UTC)reply
DeleteSearching pulls up a couple of marginal sources, but not enough to meet the GNG. The
WP:FOOTYN essay should not be used as a reason for keeping or deleting a team article. — Insertcleverphrasehere(
or here) 00:32, 13 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete. While the practice of keeping articles about clubs that have played in national championships is not a bad one in general, applying it blindly is unwise, in my opinion. We are arguing here to keep a page based entirely on an unknown website documenting the fact that this club played once in the national competition of a country of half a million people. The city leagues of most metros have a larger population to draw from. This threshold is absurdly low, and we need to ignore it in this (and similar) cases.
Vanamonde (
talk) 04:26, 21 September 2018 (UTC)reply
RSSSF is a reliable website for historical football research. The biggest problem here is rather the team never actually played in the national competition - just their island's competition - and
WP:GNG is borderline at best.
SportingFlyertalk 06:34, 22 September 2018 (UTC)reply
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