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The result was delete. Whilst the keep votes are technically correct that the player passes NFOOTY, the stronger arguments presented here are that the presumption of GNG that this provides is incorrect in this case. No sources indicating sufficient coverage to satisfy GNG have been presented. Given the player is now retired it seems unlikely this situation will change in the future. There is consensus through AfD that where players only barely pass NFOOTY and have retired that they need to clearly show GNG. This is not the case here. Fenix down ( talk) 08:47, 16 March 2019 (UTC) reply

Charles Rodriguez

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Fails Barely passes NFOOTY and fails GNG. Retired soccer player never played seven games for a third-tier professional team; currently an assistant NCAA coach. Best THREE sources of SIGCOV are this decent write up... and that's really about it. This three-paragraph routine signing report, this one-paragraph mention, this one-sentence mention, and this one-sentence mention don't count as SIGCOV. Although he made the All-American team in 2011, not sure if that counts for WP:ANYBIO #1 (look how many redlinks are on the list), ANYBIO says meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included. With only one SIGCOV, no barely any NFOOTY, and a maybe ANYBIO, this article should be deleted. Leviv  ich 00:11, 9 March 2019 (UTC) reply

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Delete as nom. (removing nom vote – sorry) Note: after I made my nomination, it was pointed out that at the time Rodriguez played for the Wilmington Hammerheads, they played in a professional league (although they don't anymore). I updated my nom accordingly, taking this from a "no GNG/no NFOOTY" nom to a "no GNG/barely NFOOTY" nom. Leviv  ich 00:33, 9 March 2019 (UTC) reply

• Delete a non-notable soccer player. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 01:05, 9 March 2019 (UTC) reply
• Keep Passes NFOOTY. Playing in a fully pro third tier is no reason to delete. 7 games is more than some players with an article. Dougal18 ( talk) 08:20, 9 March 2019 (UTC) reply
• Keep Wilmington Hammerheads were a professional team in a fully professional league when he appeared for the, therefore meets NFOOTY requirements. UncleTupelo1 ( talk) 14:34, 9 March 2019 (UTC) reply
• Delete. (Note nom consulted me prior to the nomination). All the NFOOTY votes should be discounted - NFOOTY merely creates a presumption of GNG. Absent sources showing GNG is met - then in a nom challenging GNG - it is not met. Note this is a US college player who spent a single year in a minor league team (and US minor leaguers are generally non notable in all sports) and has retired from play. Additional coverage here is unlikely. Icewhiz ( talk) 16:13, 9 March 2019 (UTC) reply
• Keep - meets WP:NFOOTBALL; needs improving, not deleting. Giant Snowman 11:50, 11 March 2019 (UTC) reply

  Absent significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject - which are lacking here (failing WP:GNG) - such an improvement is unlikely - impossible even given sourcing quality required for a WP:BLP. Keep by NFOOTY (merely presumption of GNG) means nothing for borderline NFOOTY players who are being challenged for not having anything approaching SIGCOV. Show us the sources, if you want it kept. At least 3-4 high quality in-depth sources. Icewhiz ( talk) 12:18, 11 March 2019 (UTC) reply

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