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The result was delete. Not seeing any evidence that he played internationally for anyone other than a junior team, not the senior team. Fenix down ( talk) 18:40, 15 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY. Nehme1499 ( talk) 15:34, 8 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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@ Pelmeen10: Is Meistriliiga players really not notable? He was even top scorer there-- Estopedist1 ( talk) 07:45, 9 March 2020 (UTC) reply
Only if they pass GNG. NFooty needs fully-proffessional league or national team caps. Pelmeen10 ( talk) 17:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Question Nehme1499, GiantSnowman Can I ask if you checked the other wiki's because according to the Russian one he has played 12 games for Estonia at national level. However I am not sure if that was under-21, U23 Olympics, I don't think it was for UEFA Euro 1996 qualifications period as I don't see games for that when I had a look. I do feel these delete votes are currently are saying one thing without analysing the players credentials, which kinda bugs me. Govvy ( talk) 18:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Govvy: I had already checked him out at national-football-teams.com: he isn't there. Nehme1499 ( talk) 19:01, 9 March 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Nehme1499: It would of helped if you explained this AfD a little more, I mean, one when something looks like it's pointing to national team games, it really does help that you explain your findings as well. Govvy ( talk) 20:23, 9 March 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Govvy: WP:NFOOTY includes both clubs and NTs and, as I explicitly stated that he doesn't pass the guideline, it's implied that I believe that he hasn't played for a senior NT. Also, where in the article does it "look like it's pointing to national team games"? It just says that he was the Estonian league's top scorer once, followed by a bullet point of Estonian (non professional) clubs he has played in. Nehme1499 ( talk) 20:30, 9 March 2020 (UTC) reply
It clearly said in the info box on the Russian wiki that he played for the Estonian national team for 12 games from 1994 to 95! I pointed to that earlier. Govvy ( talk) 20:34, 9 March 2020 (UTC) reply
This is the English wiki, not the Russian one. I'm not going to investigate every single wiki the guy has. Especially since I'm not fluent in German, Russian, Estonian or Hungarian. Also, the Russian one points to him having played at YOUTH level, not senior. My statement was very clear: he doesn't pass GNG, nor NFOOTY (ergo: he hasn't played in a professional league, nor for a SENIOR national team). I don't see why you would like me to explain in detail the reasoning behind why I believe he hasn't played for a national team. If the author of the page didn't write it, then why should I write a paragraph stating: I searched on NFT.com, he isn't there. So rest assured, he HASN'T played for a senior national team. THEREFORE he doesn't pass NFOOTY. Seems a bit pedantic. Nehme1499 ( talk) 20:40, 9 March 2020 (UTC) reply
Why pedantic? I wasted 30 minutes looking into that simply because you failed to write that down as part of the reason to your nomination, it's a clear oversight and unprofessional of you. Govvy ( talk) 20:44, 9 March 2020 (UTC) reply
If even after 30 minutes you didn't figure out that the Russian wiki listed him as a youth international, and not a senior... Nehme1499 ( talk) 20:48, 9 March 2020 (UTC) reply
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