Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/2017_South_Korea_national_football_team_season References

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The result was delete. T. Canens ( talk) 09:39, 12 February 2018 (UTC) reply

2017 South Korea national football team season

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Fails WP:NSEASONS, there is only list of matches with zero prose. Furthermore, I never saw a seasonal articles for the national teams, there is no seasonal articles like "2017 England national football team season", "2017 Spain national football team season" etc.

I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason:

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Delete - Doesn't require individual season, all the results are already recorded here South Korea national football team results (2010–19) NZFC ^(talk) 01:06, 29 January 2018 (UTC) reply
Delete not needed, standard formatting is to group in 10 years spans. Giant Snowman 10:43, 29 January 2018 (UTC) reply

Note: I notified these page creator. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 12:58, 29 January 2018 (UTC) reply

Keep nothing wrong with recording the matches of a team in detail, there is nothing saying that friendly matches cannot be recorded in detail. Inter&anthro (User talk:Inter&anthro|talk]]) 02:24, 30 January 2018 (UTC) reply

Also the rational of the nominator of these articles should be deleted because articles for say the Spain national team don't exists is classic WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST. Inter&anthro ( talk) 03:53, 30 January 2018 (UTC) reply

Then read NSEASONS instead, it is CLEARLY written "Articles can be created on individual seasons of teams in top professional leagues, as these articles almost always meet the notability requirements. Team season articles should consist mainly of well-sourced prose, not just statistics and lists of players. Wikipedia is not a stats directory. It is strongly recommended that those articles be redirected to the team page if no sourced prose can be created.", those article are just a list of matches. Snowflake91 ( talk) 10:09, 30 January 2018 (UTC) reply

Plus as mention above the matches are already covered in South Korea national football team results (2010–19), if people want more detail about the matches, then each match has a match report they can click on to read more. NZFC ^(talk) 05:03, 31 January 2018 (UTC) reply

Move and merge content to South Korea national football team results (2000–09) and South Korea national football team results (2010–19) by using {{ Football box collapsible}} instead of {{ Football box}} and delete those 18 pages Per above discussion, but I think this better. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 05:43, 31 January 2018 (UTC) reply
Merge as above, using collapsible boxes so that the useful information is all available in the two articles and the boxes prevent overloading the page, and rather than deleting the articles they can be converted to redirects. The information is easily verified so maintenance issues are not a problem. This would be a more useful solution than blanket deletions. Atlantic306 ( talk) 17:38, 31 January 2018 (UTC) reply
Comment What about moving some of them into the seasonal articles like 2017 in South Korean football as that looks like that could be a good place to put it in there as some other seasonal results of national teams are in the season review for that nation. Animation is developing 01:27, 1 February 2018 (UTC) reply

@ Matt294069:Using

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Football box collapsible}}

or retarget or transculde by using <section begin><section end>. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 02:53, 1 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Exactly on that Animation is developing 11:59, 1 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Delete and Merge, I kind of agree with Hhhhhkohhhhh, collaspable tables formatting would be much better instead of all these forked pages. Govvy ( talk) 14:22, 1 February 2018 (UTC) reply
- Except that ignores MOS:COLLAPSE, which says "Collapsible templates should not conceal article content by default upon page loading". – Pee Jay 16:07, 1 February 2018 (UTC) reply
  - @ PeeJay2K3: So what is your idea? Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 03:19, 2 February 2018 (UTC) reply
    - I think we need to have some sort of article that covers each team's World Cup and Euros/Africa Cup of Nations/equivalent cycle. Instead of having one article per year, what I suggest would cover approximately two years, starting with the first qualifier and ending with the final of the competition. Perhaps this wouldn't work, but it would be better than what we have right now. – Pee Jay 09:42, 2 February 2018 (UTC) reply
      - I do not think 2 years is better because 2 years will be the same status as or even worse than 1 year 's. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 10:04, 2 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Delete for failing WP:NSEASONS. There is no sensible way of merging this anywhere. – Finnusertop ( talk ⋅ contribs) 14:54, 4 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I am relisting this somewhat reluctantly as I think the guideline based arguments as well as the practical considerations favor deletion. However as there are arguments on the other side I'd like to see if we can get a little closer to something that can be readily identified as consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem ( talk) 01:07, 5 February 2018 (UTC) reply

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