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Fails WP:NMUSIC with no viable independent coverage. Subject has no notable discography or label work and no chart activity, and article sources are primary. 💥Casualty • Hop along. • 23:40, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

EC (programming language)

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Blatant self promotion of a non-notable programming language. Was already deleted once before for the same reason: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/EC (programming language) Apocheir ( talk) 23:40, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was speedy delete‎. Acroterion (talk) 23:46, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Kidprod

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Article moved from draftspace, despite being declined twice when submitted for review. Subject does not seem to meet notability guidelines yet, and fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. Delete unless reliable sources are found and added to article. CycloneYoris talk! 23:34, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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E@I

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Notability. I'm just not finding secondary coverage of this. Nor anything primary that's really convincing me of its significance. Andy Dingley ( talk) 21:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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2026 NCAA Division I Indoor Track and Field Championships

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Seems to be TOO SOON for this article to exist. I therefore propose deletion, or to possibly redirect somewhere if a plausible target is found. CycloneYoris talk! 22:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Redirect to NCAA Division I Men's Indoor Track and Field Championships and do not draftify. Way WP:TOOSOON for an article on an event which has no coverage outside of a single WP:PRIMARY routine announcement of date and venue. This can easily be covered on the chart of championships listed in the proposed target article. I oppose a move to draft space because it is highly unlikely any significant coverage will be available until January 2026 at the earliest (the start of that year’s indoor track season), meaning there is no benefit to creating a draft at this time. Frank Anchor 00:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC) reply
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  • Redirect per Frank Anchor. It is probably too early for the 2025 article; this one is definitely too soon. I could probably be convinced it is too soon for even a redirect. Walsh90210 ( talk) 02:02, 19 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete way too soon, and not mentioned at parent article, and so redirect is inappropriate. I also oppose moving to draft space, since it's about 21 months until the event and draft space is not an indefinite holding area. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 07:05, 19 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Adding a mention at the parent article is an easily WP:SURMOUNTABLE problem. A section with future locations can be added after the list of past events. Frank Anchor 00:53, 20 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Done. Frank Anchor 01:05, 20 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete The topic doesn't seem to match WP:SPORTSEVENT. It clearly states that student competitions are not considered noteworthy, and the article itself about the sporting event should not be just a collection of statistics. When the event is held and something significant happens there, then maybe it will become an acceptable candidate for an article-- Saul McGill ( talk) 14:41, 19 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Wilber F. Breslin Center for Real Estate Studies

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The language, scope and tone of this article feels completely self-promotional. In an effort to conduct wp:before, I uncovered minor articles that appear to be reprints of press releases in Newsday. If anything, a portion of the content from this article should be included in the large article on Hofstra University. Otherwise, I recommend deletion. Variety312 ( talk) 23:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Mewar–Delhi Sultanate Wars

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The article is nothing but a complete product of original research. There is not a single WP:RS that treats the conflicts between Mewar and the Delhi Sultanate as involving all the Sultanates ( Mamluk dynasty, Khalji dynasty, Tughlaq dynasty, and the Lodi dynasty) allied together against Mewar. Ironically, the timeline of the war/conflicts presented in the article is completely fabricated, and no sources support this notion. There was no single war between Mewar and the Delhi Sultanate, as these were not unified entities. Mewar was ruled by the Guhila dynasty and later the Sisodia dynasty, while the Delhi Sultanate was ruled by the aforementioned dynasties. The author synthesized multiple conflicts and combined them into a single article, even claiming a "Mewar victory" without any evidence. The article is completely a product of WP:SYNTH and OR. Imperial [AFCND] 14:31, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • comment:Note for the closer: Please analyze the background and contributions of the voters, as meatpuppetry is common among Indian military-history articles. Do not consider the votes of newly created users or common PoV pushers as valid, whether for Delete or Keep. Ironically, I noticed that the author of this article supported the deletion of a similar article at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maratha–Nizam wars, yet surprisingly promotes this article by linking to other articles. -- Imperial [AFCND] 14:38, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    Keep I have named the article "List of Battles between Kingdom of Mewar and Delhi Sultanate" but a user named Flemmish changed it to the current name. I suggest the name of the article to be changed to the previous one, "List of Battles between Kingdom of Mewar and Delhi Sultanate", and this is a list where as your article Maratha-Nizam was a conflict which is entirely different from this one. Both articles can't be compared, use common sense at least Imperial. Also, I did not remove the dynasties (Guhila, Sisodiya, Khalji, etc.) another user named Padfoot2008 removed it so you better have this discussion with him. Also when did I add Mewar victory in the article, if some editor adds it (which nobody did you could see page history), you could simply undo that edit, nominating the article for deletion isn't appropriate. And there are several similar articles in Wikipedia like List of wars involving the Delhi Sultanate so why can't this be? Mohammad Umar Ali ( talk) 17:21, 18 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    I changed the title to Mewar–Delhi Sultanate Wars because all parts of the actual text were portraying it as a series of conflicts and a set topic rather than just a list of conflicts between the states — changing the title back wouldn't fix anything, the problems are, as was said, about the text and treating it as a single conflict rather than whether it is called a "list" or not. Flemmish Nietzsche ( talk) 04:47, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    Which line of the article portrays this as a single conflict? It seems you have a problem in understanding English. Better work on it. Mohammad Umar Ali ( talk) 07:21, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    I'm not the one with an English problem here — I did say portraying it as a series of conflicts and a set topic — obviously this was not one 300 year war and by the latter saying of "treating it as a single conflict" I mean, as I and Imperial said, that you are treating these wars between non-unified entities as a series of conflicts, and thus one topic rather than just different conflicts between polities which happened to be located in the same region. You can't take multiple wars between any two states and treat it as one topic if sources do not treat it as one. Flemmish Nietzsche ( talk) 07:33, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    It seems to me that you simply don't want to understand what is meant by a list. I m saying that this is a list of wars between Mewar and Delhi Sultanate. When am I saying (when is the article saying) this is a single conflict? And what do you mean by non-unified entities? Clearly you are the one who is having difficulty in understanding English or even your own comments. See what you wrote, the problems are, as was said, about the text and treating it as a single conflict Mohammad Umar Ali ( talk) 07:42, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    Did you even read Imperial's initial reasoning? Non-unified means, in addition to a lack of centralization, that the "Delhi Sultanate" was not one single country and was ruled by four different dynasties. Quoting Imperial's reasoning, which it seems you can't comprehend, Mewar was ruled by the Guhila dynasty and later the Sisodia dynasty, while the Delhi Sultanate was ruled by the aforementioned dynasties. The author synthesized multiple conflicts and combined them into a single article, even claiming a "Mewar victory" without any evidence. As I said, you're taking the fact that there were multiple wars between the "Delhi Sultanate" and the "Kingdom of Mewar", both ruled by different dynasties throughout their history, and, as a quote from your writing on the article, claiming that the "Mewar-Delhi Sultanate Wars" were a series of conflicts that happened from the mid 13th to early 16th century with a set victor. I changed the title from a list because by your writing, it wasn't a list; you claimed in the lead, before the page was moved, that there is something called the "Mewar-Delhi Sultanate Wars" which is clearly just a made up name of conflicts between different entities; I was simply adjusting the title to more accurately reflect the outlandish claim your POVish article is trying to make. Flemmish Nietzsche ( talk) 08:02, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    So, You want me to change just first line of the article that is "The Mewar-Delhi Sultanate Wars were a series of conflicts that happened from the mid 13th to early 16th century"? And even if multiple dynasties are involved that does not support the deletion as it is a list. And what is my POV push in the article, all wars are supported by multiple reliable sources (WP:RS). Also, list of wars articles are perfectly suitable for inclusion in Wikipidea. And different dynasties ruling Mewar and Delhi doesn't make any sense for deletion of the article, for example you could see Afghan-Sikh War. If you changed the title for first line of the article you should have consulted me first as I was the author of this article rather than having this discussion now. Besides where did I mention a set victor in the article since the day it was accepted? Mohammad Umar Ali ( talk) 08:14, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply
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Keep: These battles did happen between Mewar and Delhi Sultanate over a long period of time as both vied for control in northern India. What did u mean by this:
There was no single war between Mewar and the Delhi Sultanate, as these were not unified entities. Mewar was ruled by the Guhila dynasty and later the Sisodia dynasty, while the Delhi Sultanate was ruled by the aforementioned dynasties.
How Mewar wasn't a unified entity? Guhila dynasty and later the Sisodia dynasty are not distinct, Sisodia are a sub-clan of Guhila. Krayon95 ( talk) 04:35, 18 June 2024 (UTC) reply
There is not a single WP:RS that treated the conflicts between Sisodia+Guhila vs Mamluk+Khalji+Tughlaq+Lodi as a single war. So, a clear synthesis is presented here. And your user talk page history is full of clearing warnings and AFD notices on caste-related issues? Imperial [AFCND] 05:07, 18 June 2024 (UTC) reply
@ ImperialAficionado Well, indeed, battles took place between Mewar and the Delhi Sultanate as they were both powerful entities, particularly Mewar as it was going towards its peak, but as explained by you, there is no source mentioning the war overwall, or, in a better way, an organised millitary standoff. Hence, I would request to rename the article to its older name, which is "List of battles between the Kingdom of Mewar and the Delhi Sultanate," or another name, which is Mewar-Delhi Sultanate Conflicts. Let's have a consensus.
Regards Rawn3012 ( talk) 10:21, 18 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete
Majority of the users pushing for “keep” seem to be POV pushers from newly created accounts. They didn’t even give any good reasons for its inclusion. As imperial mentioned, the Delhi sultanate was not a single entity. There’s no proof that all the dynasties(khalji, tughlaq, Mamluk, ETC) participated. Nor is there evidence of a supposed “Mewar victory”. Someguywhosbored ( talk) 19:10, 23 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Even read the previous discussion? And for your information I am active on Wikipedia for over 6 months which falsify your claim that Keeps are from newly created users. This is list of wars between Kingdom of Mewar and Delhi Sultanate. I don't understand why are you even mentioning the dynasties. Kingdom of Mewar existed from 6th century till 1947 (now are titular monarchs under Constitution of India) and Delhi Sultanate from 1206-1526. This article deals with the List of wars (is not a single 300 year war) between Kingdom of Mewar and Delhi Sultanate. And please point out where the article shows Mewar victory? Mohammad Umar Ali ( talk) 07:34, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Comment for the Closer : I have addressed all concerns which users Flemmish and Imperial had regarding page name, some sentences of the intro para and the dynasties of the involved belligerents in my recent edits of this page. Please see these links [2], [3], [4], [5]. Mohammad Umar Ali ( talk) 09:28, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep It's a perfect page that passes WP:GNG. These battles did happen and I don't think this page should be deleted. User:Hashid Khan
  • Delete: Yes, some of my concerns were addressed by MuA, but if this article is really just going to be a list of conflicts between the two states (who again were ruled by many different dynasties throughout these "conflicts"), there doesn't need to be an infobox, this much prose, (see list of wars between Russia and Sweden for an example) or any aftermath section, in which again it is treated as one conflict "The conflict ultimately ended after the defeat and death...". As it is this article is still too POV-pushy, and even if all of this is addressed, a good reason was never given why this article should actually exist instead of why it should not be deleted — we obviously don't have a list of conflicts between every two states that have fought more than one war between each other, so why do we need this article just for it to say "Mewar victory" 12 times in bold text? Flemmish Nietzsche ( talk) 18:35, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep or Merge. Seems definitely somewhat biased and all, should be reworded to fit WP:MOS... In general, does this information exist elsewhere on Wikipedia? If not, we shouldn't delete. If it does, we could maybe condense and merge. User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 23:29, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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VL Mike

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Fails WP:NMUSIC as individual artist. Connected purely to Chopper City Boyz with no notable coverage or discography, and like Freaky Tah, any ongoing coverage centers around his death more than his music. Redirect to Chopper City Boyz if not outright deletion. 💥Casualty • Hop along. • 23:01, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Capital Radio (pirate)

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An article from 2006 with only one source - a radio interview from 2003. There are no independent, third-party reliable sources cited. A WP:BEFORE search is complicated because there is a commercial radio outlet with the same name which came later. There is a body of work on the general subject of pirate radio in Europe in the late 1960s and early 1970s, but I could not find reliable sources for this particular station. Fails WP:GNG and WP:ORG and lacks WP:SIGCOV, Geoff | Who, me? 23:00, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete: All kinds of hits for pirate radio all over the world, Japan, Australia, the UK, that come up with this search, but nothing about this particular incarnation of pirate radio. Oaktree b ( talk) 23:05, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: Should note that as of the time I am writing this, the article appears to have zero sources. — Mjks28 ( talk) 01:27, 25 June 2024 (UTC) reply
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  • Keep as meets WP:GNG with sources added to article. Insufficient WP:BEFORE. Yes, Dutch newspaper archives are particularly difficult to access online without going to a physical library (preferably in the Netherlands), but online sources like this and this are accessible via Google (and if you look closely at some of the websites covering the King David, they include photographs of old newspaper clippings as well). Pinging Oaktree b for reconsideration. Cielquiparle ( talk) 05:07, 25 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Also found a whole section dedicated to Capital Radio on board the King David in this book about pirate radio. There is enough coming up via Internet Archive, such that going through it will take more time than I have right now. This was a happy discovery so in the end, no harm done and the article can keep improving. Cielquiparle ( talk) 05:28, 25 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Freaky Tah

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Fails WP:NMUSIC. Not notable enough for own article (no content therein outside of his death) with no individual discography or independent coverage. If not outright deletion, a redirect to Lost Boyz will suffice. 💥Casualty • Hop along. • 22:57, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Virgin Atlantic Flight 024

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Minor aviation incident, no serious injuries or fatalities, not a hull loss, no impact on aviation regulations or the air transportation system generally; in summary, no WP:LASTING impact. The incident can be adequately discussed in the Heathrow Airport and Airbus A340 articles (perhaps tellingly, there is no mention of the incident in either article as I write this). Carguychris ( talk) 21:23, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

  • keep This is a clear incident with wounded people. The Banner  talk 22:11, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Hi User:The Banner, can you expand a bit beyond direct impacts, here injuries sustained plus damage both to the vessel and infrastructure? gidonb ( talk) 01:20, 25 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Routine airline mechanical incident that resulted in no deaths or serious injuries, plus WP:NOTNEWS. "Wounded people" is certainly not a viable rationale for keeping the article. 💥Casualty • Hop along. • 23:04, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Per WP:PERSISTENCE, for example in: [1.] A Sociology of Commercial Flight Crew, By Bennett Simon, 2016 (originally 2006), Publisher: Taylor & Francis. [2.] The Virgin Way: Everything I Know About Leadership, By Richard Branson, 2014. Publisher: Penguin. [3.] Virgin Atlantic, By John Balmforth, 2009. Publisher: Midland. Item #1 is even a WP:CASESTUDY. gidonb ( talk) 01:06, 25 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Gidonb: Could you give more iformation so we can locate the sources, and if possible, check them out for ourselves? – LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 03:24, 25 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Weak Delete There is this: [6], not certain about reliability. Otherwise it's just routine day-by-day reporting, no WP:LASTING. All other information found is either mundane database entries or trivial. WeirdNAnnoyed ( talk) 01:50, 25 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Oh, wow! Great find! That's already 4 cases WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE, this time from 2024! How does such persistent coverage correspond with your conclusion? gidonb ( talk) 02:33, 25 June 2024 (UTC) reply

111 Rocket Regiment

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Fails WP:GNG and created as part of COI campaign (see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/832LT/Archive.). Ineligible for G5 due to others contributing. Mdann52 ( talk) 13:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Comment: the sockpuppet investigation linked is a "misguided newbie" creating user accounts for Indian regiments "in place of draft articles". Dubious that there is COI. Mrfoogles ( talk) 18:11, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Mrfoogles: it appears slightly more than that... are you aware of the ANI Thread? Mdann52 ( talk) 19:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
I was not aware of that. It seems like either someone in the Indian Army did actually order soldiers to edit the regiment's Wikipedia articles, or this is some kind of joke, but that's definitely weird. I was not expecting User_talk:PRISH123. Mrfoogles ( talk) 21:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: This [7] is about all there is for the regiment. Not enough to keep the article. Oaktree b ( talk) 20:21, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: Should we create a bulk AfD for all these regimental articles as a result of the COI investigation? If they're all of this quality, likely they can all be deleted. Oaktree b ( talk) 20:25, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete or redirect per creation by apparent paid editors and lack of major notability. I can't check for non-English sources, which might be helpful on a more obscure topic like this, but it's not like the article's creator checked the notability policy either when creating it. The unit seems to mostly be notable (from before I deleted the uncited bit) for the use of Grad-P rocket systems (see BM-21_Grad) and being a Rocket Regiment (described at Regiment_of_Artillery_(India), so redirect to one of those, maybe. Mrfoogles ( talk) 21:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Projexity

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nn dead business - Altenmann >talk 16:54, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep.
1. You have to actually say why it should be deleted, not just cite the notability guideline.
2. This article actually has a few decent sources, and a few more can be found by googling:
- https://www.blogto.com/tech/2013/04/new_website_aims_to_foster_city_building_in_toronto/, a full article on it
- https://web.archive.org/web/20170309094042/http://www.cbc.ca/metromorning/episodes/2013/04/04/crowd-sourcing/, a CBC interview
- https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2015/06/projexity-platform-grassroots-urban-initiatives.16288, an interview article with a few paragraphs of exposition (independent) that can be used
- https://web.archive.org/web/20170613192928/https://gridphilly.com/grid-magazine/2013/4/9/a-blossoming-vision-for-south-philly-high-school.html, a description of its use in a school
Pretty sure this satisfies notability, based on the sources that are already there and a google search. Mrfoogles ( talk) 17:30, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Also https://web.archive.org/web/20210802231748/https://torontoist.com/2013/07/kensington-market-tries-to-crowdfund-its-fight-against-riocan-and-walmart/, which is a pretty good one Mrfoogles ( talk) 17:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • I dont find these sources satisfy GNG, for a number of reasons. For example all of them are old and local, and the project died decade ago. - Altenmann >talk
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  • Keep an inactive topic is not a valid deletion reason. The same logic could lead to deletion of all our history-related articles. — Alien333 ( what I did & why I did it wrong) 19:56, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    • please don't cherry-pick / red-herring: the nom was nn dead. Of course we have on plenty of out-of-business articles. A bit below I also replied why I think it does not satisfy GNG. - Altenmann >talk 22:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: Defunct or not, I don't see this enterprise as meeting notability. The sourcing isn't helpful; an interview, a primary source and a non-Rs blog-type website. This is all I could find [8], still lacking enough RS to cover this in order to get an article here. Oaktree b ( talk) 20:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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OpenSilver Framework

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Fails WP: N. The Krill article is routine coverage, and the rest of the sources are closely affiliated with Userware or aren't reliable. This was dePRODed without any sourcing improvements. HyperAccelerated ( talk) 20:53, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment: Redirecting and/or merging to Microsoft Silverlight is an AtD that I'm comfortable with. HyperAccelerated ( talk) 20:55, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

WDGA-CD

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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Mvcg66b3r ( talk) 18:41, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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WDNN-CD

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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Mvcg66b3r ( talk) 18:42, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep, actually. To my surprise, I’m already recovering some stuff about this station. I should be finished straightening up this article soon. Though if you want sources, why not? [1] [2] [3] For some reason, apparently the times mentioned one of their shows so Danubeball ( talk) 19:06, 21 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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UAB School of Dentistry

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Fails WP: N. PROD removed without sufficient sourcing improvements. The sources are lists which can't be used to establish notability. HyperAccelerated ( talk) 16:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Weak keep - first a note to the nominator: deletion discussions are about the subject, not the article. It seems to me that the claim sourced to the school of being a pioneer in development of four-handed dentistry is true, that fact would be sourcable to a book on the history of dentistry. WP:BEFORE requires the nominator of an article for deletion to do reasonable research into the subject prior to nomination and specifically mentions that a Google search is not enough. So, did you read any books on the history of dentistry? If reliable independent sources can be found for that bit, my keep would no longer be weak. Second, if it cannot be independently verified after real research, WP:ATD tells us that this title should be a redirect to the university, not a delete. 4.37.252.50 ( talk) 18:19, 11 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    You're free to go look for a book that may or may not exist. The onus is on you to bring sources forward that would improve the article. Nominators need only conduct a WP: BEFORE search, which I already completed. Anything else is a massive waste of time for nominators. HyperAccelerated ( talk) 19:02, 11 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    I am okay with a redirect as an alternative to deletion. HyperAccelerated ( talk) 19:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Obviously, this nominator is trolling at my edits. Sources are weak but can be added eventually. He probably has some connections with other schools lol!
    "this nominator is trolling" is an ad hom. It's not a valid keep rationale. I don't have any conflicts of interest to declare. In fact, it's common for users to nominate several related articles at once. HyperAccelerated ( talk) 20:24, 11 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    then why not nominate other school/colleges pages that has lesser sources, you are only targeting my pages Juicy fruit146 ( talk) 20:26, 11 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    That's not appropriate. You should peobably read the instructions for participation at AfD linked at the top of the page. WP:AGF is a pillar policy and not optional. 4.37.252.50 ( talk) 01:35, 12 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete or Merge When searching around, I could not find anything special about this school except that it exists for 75+ years. Article is filled with run of the mill info over the school, based on related sources. Sources seem to be mostly social media. So deletion is the best option but a merge into the university is also an option. The Banner  talk 23:40, 15 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Katherine Salant

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WP:MILL journalist, does not fulfill WP:NJOURNALIST criteria. Broc ( talk) 21:26, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Inspector Chingum

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Fails WP:GNG. M S Hassan ( talk) 15:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep: Added a few things. If judged insufficient, redirect to Motu Patlu#Recurring. Again, I am inviting the nominator to PLEASE slow down nominations of Indian animated series or to directly and boldly redirect them to obvious related articles if they think apparent notability issues need to be addressed urgently. THANK YOU. Taking a page to Afd with a minimal rationale may take some time but checking sources, improving the page, verifying potential targets, etc, also does. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:47, 10 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    I prefer not to boldly redirect articles to other articles because I believe in the significance of discussion and reaching consensus. M S Hassan ( talk) 04:40, 11 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    Fair enough! Thank you for your comment. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:19, 11 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. I would not redirect to Motu Patlu#Recurring because that page segment too has no sources, no inline citation and possibly contains original research. I would have redirect to the production company if they had a page with this spin-off in the list of production. Reviewing the sources, the indepth coverage is insufficient and fails general notability guideline. RangersRus ( talk) 13:08, 15 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep the English sourcing is borderline-sufficient for GNG, and there appears to be Hindi-language coverage as well. It might be better to merge with Motu Patlu, but I'm not familiar enough to have an informed opinion. Walsh90210 ( talk) 18:54, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Korfbalvereniging KCC

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No non-primary sources were given in the article. A quick WP:BEFORE gives an announcement from a city newspaper, an interview with a former coach and a routine match result, nothing that appears to guarantee notability. Very likely fails WP:GNG Chaotic Enby ( talk · contribs) 15:30, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

[1] Korfballers vechten hard voor hun club 'De Kapellen' wacht op plek in Schenkel-Oost. "Het vrije volk : democratisch-socialistisch dagblad". Rotterdam, 27-03-1980, p. 5. Geraadpleegd op Delpher op 19-06-2024, https://resolver.kb.nl/resolve?urn=ddd:010960497:mpeg21:p047
[2] Hans de Kwant: Door en doorgezond' 'De Bermen speelt korfbal met visie' Van onze medewerker ANDRé KOUWENHOVEN. "Het vrije volk : democratisch-socialistisch dagblad". Rotterdam, 11-09-1980, p. 5. Geraadpleegd op Delpher op 19-06-2024, https://resolver.kb.nl/resolve?urn=ddd:010960654:mpeg21:p031
[3] Timmers, Jan (4 December 2023). " KCC/CK Kozijnen belandt in zwaar weer". Het Kontakt IJssel en Lekstreek. Kontakt Media Partners. Retrieved 18 June 2024.
The newer sources are not yet included in the national archives. Among the very recent news sources, the article by Jan Timmers stands out as it contains analysis. Note that the merger itself occurred in the coverage lull so we will need to do with these fine sources before and after. gidonb ( talk) 01:41, 19 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Meantime, I have identified a fourth source that supports notability. gidonb ( talk) 16:18, 20 June 2024 (UTC) reply
[4] Brassinga, Blanchefleur (6 December 2021). " KCC in grote onzekerheid nu het straks dakloos is vanwege priklocatie in sporthal: 'Een enorme dreun'". Algemeen Dagblad. Rotterdam. Retrieved 19 June 2024.
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Adrian Alvarado

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I can find nothing in-depth suggesting encyclopedic notability of this actor. BD2412 T 18:18, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Gnasher Shotgun

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I feel a huge problem here is that there's no indication of this thing having any impact or importance outside of its base series or any enduring legacy of said concept. A good paragraph devoted to it is basically gameplay tweaks that mean nothing to anyone that hasn't played Gears, and doesn't provide any reasonable grounds to be a standalone article. Kung Fu Man ( talk) 18:14, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Merge per nom and WP:MERGEREASON. Better covered in the context of its respective game(s), in a much more efficient, condensed manner. Current article is bloated and drawn out to an insane degree. It would be very easy to cover most in a much more focused paragraph that didn't branch out into these tangents. Sergecross73 msg me 18:38, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
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  • Merge with Gears of War: per nom and I don't see a problem of WP:WEIGHT by doing that, since this article is significantly smaller than the main one. I see no reason for this to be a standalone article. Rkieferbaum ( talk) 20:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge the Eurogamer article here is quite impressive, unfortunately that appears to be the only major coverage for the gun, with the other articles being announcements of balance patches or minor coverage. I likely wouldn't have created this article if I had only these sources available so I will have to agree it fails WP:GNG. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ) 20:56, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

District planning in India

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Perfect example of WP:CFORK. Both District Planning Committee and District planning in India discuss the same topic. In India, district planning is done by DPC which is set up as per the Constitution of India. Gan Favourite ( talk) 17:00, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Miguel Ángel Sierra

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Olympian who did not medal. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT #5. Lugstub. XabqEfdg ( talk) 16:23, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment: Other articles on non-notable Olympians have been moved to a special draft category where they won't be deleted after six months. That would seem appropriate here. Eastmain ( talkcontribs) 17:06, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Weak keep I added a full-length biographical profile as reference, so WP:SPORTSCRIT #5 is now fulfilled, which was the main concern of the nominator. Given the depth of this profile, it is likely a lot of coverage can be found in the sources (likely offline) of the years when he was active. @ XabqEfdg: did you perform a WP:BEFORE? Broc ( talk) 21:11, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    Yes. All I got were database results and unrelated or unreliable results. I didn't find that article which certainly counts toward GNG. Thank you for finding it. XabqEfdg ( talk) 21:28, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Kudumbashree National Resource Organisation

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Not actually a separate organisation. MoRD recognised Kudumbashree as a National Resource Organisation (NRO). Kudumbashree acts as a nodal agency for executing several schemes of central government in Kerala. This is one among several of such. The article is a content fork of Kudumbashree as it can be integrated within it and also fails WP:SIZESPLIT as there is not enough size to justify article split. Gan Favourite ( talk) 16:20, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

GSLP Kudumbashree

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Fails WP:GNG with lack of coverage. A content fork of Kudumbashree, not enough size for an article split. GSLP is only one among several programmes of Kudumbashree and this one is lesser known than the others. Gan Favourite ( talk) 16:04, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Nemanja Marković

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Olympian who did not win a medal, fails WP:SPORTSCRIT #5. Lugstub. XabqEfdg ( talk) 15:34, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment: Other articles on non-notable Olympians have been moved to a special draft category where they won't be deleted after six months. That would seem appropriate here. Eastmain ( talkcontribs) 16:55, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • As Eastman says, the articles imbued with the Template:Special draft status aren't deleted after six months, but five years. I think that's pretty excessive in this case, so delete after seven days. Geschichte ( talk) 21:40, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: Nemanja Markovic seems like a very common name, at least judging from the multiple footballers bearing the name. (Some of them are also found as incoming links to this article. None of them seem particularly notable either.) Geschichte ( talk) 21:40, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Shivendra Singh Chauhan

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Non-notable Indian journalist. Seems to be an autobiography. XabqEfdg ( talk) 15:31, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Trumpia

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No, not what you were thinking of. Fails the notability guidelines for companies. Only bringing it to AfD because there's a tiny bit of Forbes coverage that seems to have more than nonzero editorial oversight. – Tera tix 14:43, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete per nom. Tone is also highly promotional thanks to this edit, which was when User:Mytrum replaced this page with a promotional rewrite in 2022, which was also the user's only contribution.
    And hmm, I was thinking of something... Aaron Liu ( talk) 18:09, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: Well, it's all about Mr. Trump in the sources I find, whose name in Finnish sources appears as "Trumpia". Nothing about this software found. Source 6 doesn't even appear to be about the software, maybe a name drop. The rest of the sources used in the article are primary or of questionable notability. The Forbes piece is not notable/not a RS. Oaktree b ( talk) 21:32, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Erigo

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The company lacks sufficient reliable sources; not notable organization Jibbrr tybr ( talk) 15:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC) reply

delete: not notable, delete per WP:SIGCOV (nothing official pops up on google for the first few pages) Noelle!!! ( summon a demon or read smth) 16:23, 10 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete: I couldn't find any reliable sources about this company. Rela tivity ⚡️ 18:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Asim Ijaz Khwaja

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So before nominating this article for deletion, I consulted with SouthernNights, who has expertise in evaluating academic-related BLPs. They also expressed doubts about the subject meeting our WP:N. I've also conducted a BEFORE search and found nothing that could help establish GNG. Fwiw, this is a PROMO BLP! — Saqib ( talk I contribs) 14:03, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Joseph Cloud

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Biography of a person not properly referenced as passing inclusion criteria. The attempted notability claim here, "melter and refiner at the U.S. Mint", could get him an article if he were well-sourced as passing WP:GNG on coverage about his work, but is not "inherently" notable enough to guarantee him an article without proper sourcing for it -- but the only two footnotes here are a primary source directory entry that isn't support for notability at all and one page of a book about the history of the county where he lived, which is being cited in such a way that it's deeply unclear whether it even refers to Joseph Cloud at all, or merely to an ancestor of his — but even if it does mention Joseph Cloud himself, being namechecked on one page of a book about something else wouldn't be enough all by itself.
I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with much better access to archived American media coverage and/or history books than I've got can salvage it with better sources than I've been able to find, but nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to be referenced better than this. Bearcat ( talk) 13:46, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

International League for the Reconstruction of the Fourth International

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Another obscure Trotskyist international, this one almost entirely associated with its founder Michel Varga. The article cites Robert J. Alexander's book twice: both of which are passing mentions, one in a section about the International Committee of the Fourth International and another which refers to it simply as the "Varga Fourth International". Alexander himself says that the makeup of the organization was unclear and that little is known about the groups that were affiliated with it. A search on Google Scholar yields only two results, one of which is a mirror of a Swedish Wikipedia page, the other is a Czech PhD dissertation that only references it once in a long list of Trotskyist internationals. [14] There's not much on its French name either. [15]

As this organisation apparently has no significant coverage in reliable sources, and as Alexander seems to imply that its notability is inherited entirely from its founder, I recommend that this article be deleted. Grnrchst ( talk) 13:35, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep - last time this was listed for deletion, Soman found a long list of French works which mention the international. Unfortunately there was no analysis of whether they were significant mentions, but from what I can tell it does seem to have significant coverage in Benjamin Stora's La dernière génération d'octobre, a shorter mention in Pierre Turpin's Le trotskysme aujourd'hui, and it appears in the index of the Dictionnaire de la politique française and so presumably in one of the volumes which isn't on Google Books. There are some other hits in books with no previews, but I reckon that's enough for an article. Warofdreams talk 20:46, 18 June 2024 (UTC) reply
The lack of analysis was definitely an issue, because going through some of these now, it seems that most instances are only passing mentions and it appears there may have been false positives in others as well. Looking at Stora's book, the International League gets one single passing mention in a larger section about Varga, Turpin's book doesn't give much detail at all. To be clear, I'm not saying there isn't coverage of this organisation, but I still doubt there is significant coverage. It seems that most of the mentions of International League occur when discussing Varga himself, there don't appear to be any that consider the organisation as an entity independently notable of its founder.
Of what I've seen in English and French sources, the information we could glean specifically on the organisation would never grow larger than a stub. -- Grnrchst ( talk) 08:30, 19 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Trotskyist International Liaison Committee

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This is yet another obscure Trotskyist international with no significant coverage in reliable sources. Of the two currently cited sources, one is from the organisation's own successor's publication; the other is Robert Alexander's book, which only mentions the TILC briefly in passing, in a section about the Revolutionary Workers League. A search on Google Scholar yields only two results: a mirror of a Swedish Wikipedia page, and a Czech PhD thesis, which only references it once it in a long list of Trotskyist internationals. [16]

As this doesn't appear to meet our guidelines on the notability of organizations, I recommend this article be deleted. Grnrchst ( talk) 12:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Fourth International (ICR)

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This is yet another obscure Trotskyist international without any apparent significant coverage in reliable sources. This article has been tagged for multiple issues since 2010 and its only cited inline source is a simple list of abbreviations. Looking this organisation up on Google Scholar, I found only three results: [17] one is a Czech thesis that lists it alongside many other Trotskyist internationals, without any further detail; the other two only give it a passing reference in sections about the Spanish far-left, without any real detail. It apparently only has one notable section, the Spanish Internationalist Socialist Workers' Party, which has little information about it either. The Spanish Wikipedia article doesn't help with finding sources, as it is almost entirely reliant on the FI-ICR's own newspaper La Verite.

As this doesn't appear to meet our criteria for the notability of organizations, I am recommending this article for deletion. Grnrchst ( talk) 11:41, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Martin Červeňák

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With only one match in lower league as well as database sources listed, this article of a men's footballer obviously fails WP:GNG. The closest thing to significant coverage is SME where he debuted for Senica. My other searches only came up with match reports and passing mentions. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 11:27, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Yasmin Lucas

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This article about a Brazilian singer covers the subject's early career as a child / teenage performer but not the later appearance as a contestant on The Voice Brasil, performing by then as Lais Yasmin. Although this article instance is sourced only to primary social media, its basic details are verifiable in this 2018 online article associated with The Voice appearance. However I don't see the evidence needed to meet the WP:MUSICBIO notability criteria. AllyD ( talk) 09:30, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete: Sourcing now in the article is social media or primary sources. I don't find anything about this person. Nothing for sourcing. Oaktree b ( talk) 11:56, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Paul K. Davis (historian)

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Fails WP:GNG, Can't find any other sources in an outside search other than one source in the article. TheNuggeteer ( talk) 11:09, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Marco Magnani

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Not particularly relevant as an essayist, nor as a lecturer. Excellent career, no doubt, but rather in the normal range. Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 10:44, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Some profiles in the press (although mixed with interviews, not sure if they would contribute to WP:GNG: [26] [27] and some more coverage of Il grande scollamento [28] Broc ( talk) 15:58, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Yesunte Möngke

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WP:NOTGENEALOGY; only notable for being a relative of the purported ancestors of Timur. There is no WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS purely on him. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 ( talk) 09:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Moss Man

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No evidence that this is notable per BEFORE. 🍕 Boneless Pizza!🍕 ( 🔔) 09:51, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Orko (character)

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No evidence that this is notable per BEFORE. 🍕 Boneless Pizza!🍕 ( 🔔) 09:50, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

There is a paragraph discussing the character in How He-Man Mastered the Universe, p. 48, and more bits throughout, another paragraph on Orko in Naming Your Little Geek, p. 237, as well as shorter mentions in Corona Magazine, Marginal Conventions and [29]/ [30]. Daranios ( talk) 15:13, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Beast Man

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No evidence that this is notable per BEFORE. 🍕 Boneless Pizza!🍕 ( 🔔) 09:49, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Stinkor

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No evidence that this is notable per BEFORE. 🍕 Boneless Pizza!🍕 ( 🔔) 09:48, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Merge to List of He-Man and the Masters of the Universe characters. A sensible medium-term alternative to Delete, and an article that can be patched up on and improved. Should sources for GNG be found it can always be returned to standalone. Comment I know next to nothing about MOTU and care about it even less than that, but this flood of near-identical nominations would give anyone with the knowledge to put together a Keep vote far too much research to do. This is yet another case of eschewing a potentially constructive discussion on talk pages that could genuinely improve articles and Wikipedia by selectively merging salvageable material to a strong list instead being turned into someone yelling "BALEET!" because it's easier. I used to wonder why so many articles are neglected. Now I know it's because passionate editors get tired of being at the mercy of lazy rubbish like this. BoomboxTestarossa ( talk) 10:08, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Hordak

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No evidence that this is notable per BEFORE. 🍕 Boneless Pizza!🍕 ( 🔔) 09:47, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Aergo Capital

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There is reasonable doubt that sufficient sources exist to demonstrate the subject's notability, per WP:CORP. (Google's news search finds many hits) Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 09:20, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Keep. As with the nom, my own WP:BEFORE identified a relatively high number of (seemingly) independent/reliable news sources which deal with the subject org as a primary topic. And in some depth. The nom was, in my view, quite correct in dePROD-ing the article. And opening this AfD. Personally I cannot support deletion. The sources found in my own BEFORE, a number of which I've added to the article, would suggest that WP:CORPDEPTH is met. Certainly I can't support summary/procedural deletion... Guliolopez ( talk) 11:51, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Pádraig McNally

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An unreferenced article for someone who doesn’t have notability under WP:POLITICIAN. Iveagh Gardens ( talk) 08:47, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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    Hello. I created this page myself. This was sometime after the 2019 LEs when I also created for Irish Local Elections across the years 1985-99 and for each City & County Council election of each and have added to others since and created additional ones including individual pages for several elected politicians, past and present and national and local level. Devite ( talk) 19:33, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    The benefit of Wikipedia is that in some cases GAA personalities, actors, actresses, comedians and people who then become TDs, Senators and MEPs start out in their first election. The pages I helped create show links to all elections that the people stood in, if they become a significant national or international personality. You understand as a fellow editor. Its the fishing effect that we have in economics to add to the overall level of combined knowledge and this is why I like doing this. Its safe and quiet. Devite ( talk) 19:39, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    Another section I found on the pages of each Council was a list of Councillors who were Cathaoirligh of each Local Authority. This has been done for each city such as Dublin, Cork, Belfast etc and I felt should be started for each County Council at least. I am happy to discuss this further. If you analyse the list of Coucillors of Monaghan County Council, McNally is also a former Cathaoirleach. Other former Cathaoirligh include some Ministers and TDs and then again some of those weren't Ministers or TDs but significant historical personalities in each county's political history regardless. Indeed some former Councillors are famous national figures despite never having been TDs such as Nicky Kelly from Arklow, profiled in Wicklow County Council Councillor history. That is part of my argument for keeping this McNally article as part of an overall database that could be enhanced. It is the 125th anniversary of Irish local government afterall this year in 2024. Devite ( talk) 22:42, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete no evidence of WP:GNG and a local councillor does not have presumed notability per WP:NPOL. Broc ( talk) 09:13, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. A former local councillor who does not meet WP:NPOL. Spleodrach ( talk) 10:10, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Doesn't meet WP:NPOL or WP:SIGCOV. While I've found and added a few refs, which mention the subject as a primary topic, they are largely of the same type we might expect for any other (even long-standing) local councillor. The coverage of the subject's planned and then actual retirement, for example, is relatively light and only given in (very) local news sources. Can't advocate for a "keep" based on the available coverage. Guliolopez ( talk) 10:39, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:SIGCOV for the requirements of WP:POLITICIAN, also per Guilolopez. Normanhunter2 ( talk) 15:50, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup Super 8 summary

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Just a WP:CONTENTFORK, No encyclopedic value. Vestrian24Bio ( TALK) 08:34, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Also this one,
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  • Speedy delete per WP:A10. The content is copied basically word-for-word from the main article on the 2024 World Cup. I do not think this is a plausible redirect title due to its length (and users looking for information on this round are more likely to look for the general World Cup article). There is no content needed to merge because content is already at the main article Frank Anchor 10:44, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete. A pointless WP:CFORK. AA ( talk) 15:58, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was withdrawn‎. (non-admin closure)DaxServer ( t· m· e· c) 08:11, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Mariam Dao Gabala

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No WP:GNG coverage nor any WP:SNGDaxServer ( t· m· e· c) 08:09, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Muhammad Ali Mirza

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There is no specific WP:SIGCOV, and no in-depth coverage. There is routine coverage. Which clearly fails WP:GNG. He is a common youtuber, just known for his controversial statements. Youknowwhoistheman ( talk) 06:49, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Kyle Cartwright (poker player)

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No real indication of notability, only sources are routine 'match reports' on poker news sites and a stats database. Doesn't meet WP:NBIO. Only notable for a single event, so WP:BIO1E applies. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:05, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Maxim Novoselov

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Maxim Novoselov has never been ranked in the top ten, has never beaten a notable fighter (or one with a winning record for that matter), and hasn't fought for any notable promotions/events. Checking his Russian Wikipedia his biggest claims to fame are almost fighting Viacheslav Datsik, getting jailed twice, and setting up a small club in prison. The article is currently orphaned as well. User:ZenZekey ( talk) 07:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment. I think the article relies pretty much solely on this source, https://www.sports.ru/tribuna/blogs/autoblog/1020556.html, which covers the subject extensively and is solely about the subject but does not seem to be a reliable source (it's essentially a blog post). Everything else consists of passing mentions or profiles on sports pages which every martial artist has regardless of notability. I did find this source https://fighttime.ru/news/item/30275-boets-maksim-novoselov-osuzhden-na-pyat-let.html?rand=19907 which appears to have several similar articles around the internet of him being arrested again. It also sounds like he won the European Sambo Championships in 2007 according to this: https://mma.bg/novini/mma-novini/maksim-novoselov-se-vrashta-v-zatvora-zaradi-iznasilvane Spiralwidget ( talk) 16:07, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Comment It's hard to evaluate the quality and reliability of these sources. I'll admit to being skeptical about them, but I'm open to being convinced (which is why I didn't vote yet). According the FIAS, the world sambo organization, he's never competed at a world championship and the European sambo association's webpage only has results back to 2010 so I can't confirm his European title. Fightmatrix.com shows his highest MMA ranking was 110th, but he never fought another ranked fighter. He certainly appears to be a scary guy you wouldn't want to cross, but I'm not seeing anything that meets any WP SNG criteria. The question is whether or not he meets WP:GNG. Papaursa ( talk) 11:41, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Isha Malviya

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The article heavily relies on unreliable sources as per WP:ICTFSOURCES. Single significant role in Udaariyaan. Does not meet WP:SIGCOV and WP:N. Editingmylove ( talk) 08:15, 23 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Roman Hifo

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I am unable to find enough in-depth coverage of this rugby league footballer to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTSPERSON. JTtheOG ( talk) 06:11, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect‎ to Habonim Dror. Liz Read! Talk! 23:26, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Camp Amal

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Redirect to Habonim Dror, merging what's encyclopedic. Fails WP:NORG with no WP:SIGCOV for an otherwise non-notable summer camp. Both sources provided are WP:SPS and do not support WP:GNG. Longhornsg ( talk) 08:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete - insufficiently covered in reliable sources Whizkin ( talk) 21:10, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Operation Kahuta

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Pure fancruft created for POV pushing. All of the sources are nothing but invented claims of Pakistani officials not supported by any third party sources. Ratnahastin ( talk) 04:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Indian, Israeli, American, British and Irish sources are included Waleed ( talk) 04:21, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Cite them here. I don't see any which can establish WP:GNG. Ratnahastin ( talk) 04:30, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
3,4,5,8,9,10,16,17 are non-Pakistani sources which include the aforementioned sources including Israeli and Indian but also third party sources including the American air university Waleed ( talk) 05:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete : article lacks significant coverage from independent and reliable sources. The existing sources are primarily from partisan perspectives, failing to establish the article notability. Nxcrypto Message 05:28, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    Non beligrent sources are also given as mentioned above Waleed ( talk) 07:54, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
I'm not familiar with the subject but there does appear to be reliable sources covering it e.g. [39] even if it's a fabricated plot it's still arguably notable. Traumnovelle ( talk) 08:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Magdalena Leska

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the national championships do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. Previous AFD received zero arguments in favor of keeping this article that cited any evidence of notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Krzysztof Komosa

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the national championships do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. Previous AFD received zero arguments in favor of keeping this article that cited any evidence of notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:16, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Hirofumi Torii

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the national championships do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. Previous AFD featured only a bevy of personal insults and zero arguments in favor of keeping this article that cited any evidence of notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Hayley Anne Sacks

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the national championships do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. Previous AFD received zero arguments in favor of keeping this article that cited any evidence of notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:11, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Mike Caso

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I can't seem to find anything on this guy. He played in MLS for one year, made one appearance, and then totally disappeared. I've tried several searches, and nothing is coming up, much less WP:SIGCOV or anything approaching WP:GNG standards. Anwegmann ( talk) 03:10, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Delight Mobile

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This is a bundled nomination of five articles on UK MVNOs failing the notability guidelines for companies/products. They are part of a larger set of seven created by the same author in October 2011: two have since been deleted, one through PROD and the other through AfD.

The other four are:

Rather than continue the slow trickle of individual deletions, I figure it makes more sense to discuss them all at once. – Tera tix 02:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

June (The Handmaid's Tale)

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WP:INCOMPDAB with two entries, both of which redirect to the same article. – LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 02:48, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. ( non-admin closure)Jasavina ( talk) 15:05, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Fair Representation Act (United States)

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Article lacks notoriety typical for an article. The sources have a vested interest in the subject, which itself is not compelling. Repeated death in committee should itself be evidence for the notoriety level. Jasavina ( talk) 02:46, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Independent of the subjects intrinsic lack of stature, I have attempted to find non-vested sources on the topic and failed. Jasavina ( talk) 02:48, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
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Wentsley Scott

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG ( talk) 01:47, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Football Madness

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Does not appear to have any sources to back up its notability. GamerPro64 01:47, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Redirect per Waxworker MK at your service. 15:05, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Redirect per Waxworker. I did an extensive search on Newspapers.com, Both Naps Team (the game's developer website) and Phoenix Games website (the game's publisher) but ultimately found only this [52]. It being a budget game might explain why there is almost nothing on it. Timur9008 ( talk) 18:16, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
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  • Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 20:19, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Redirect per above. Would be useful to find sources to prove its WP:N and fix its WP:OR. — Mjks28 ( talk) 01:40, 25 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Ernie Smith (baseball, born 1931)

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Repeating my reasoning from 2021, but WP:NBASE now no longer exists:

Not notable. I cannot locate stats or a roster spot for this person on seamheads.com or cnlbr.org or baseball-reference.com. (B-R "Bullpen" [an open wiki] has an article created at the same time and same person that created this article.) The given source is an obit [53] that vaguely refers to playing on a Negro league team at some time. The given team ceased play in 1951 when the subject was 20, but as I stated, I cannot find any other source backing this up. (This palyer should not be confused with Ernie Smith (baseball, born 1908), also a Negro leaguer.) -- BX ( talk) 01:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete: The article's one source (an obituary of the kind likely provided by the family to a local paper) claims he played for the Baltimore Elite Giants. A separate article in the Bristol Herald-Courier on his receipt of an award puts dates on it: "After he graduated from high school in 1949, he played baseball with the Bishop Stateliners, the Amonata Slugger and the West Virginia All-Stars from 1949 to 1951. Then he played for the Baltimore Elite Giants of the Negro National League until he joined the U.S. Marine Corps in 1953, where he also played shortstop for the 2nd Marine Division baseball team." However, this is not a possible sequence, since the Baltimore Elite Giants disbanded in 1950. So that casts doubt on the reliability of the source (and thus on the obituary) right there. I'm not finding any other sources that confer notability under WP:NSPORTS (either as a player or a coach), WP:NBIO or WP:GNG. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 03:13, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Carl Faingold

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I've cleaned this article up a bit but after looking for additional information to add more substance, I don't think this meets WP:GNG. He's certainly had his name attached to many published papers, but they are pretty niche in content and many co-authors don't have their own pages. Looking at the page history, it appears that this may have been initially authored by a student or someone associated with him. Most recently, an IP user copy/pasted a numbered list of his papers but started at "112" which makes me think it came from somewhere else, but I can't find where. Lindsey40186 (talk) 01:09, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep per WP:NPROF#1. On GS I see at least 12 publications in GS with 100+ citations which is generally beyond the bar required to clear #1. Scopus lists him at an h-index of 44 with 10 publications with 100+ citations and Scopus is generally more conservative than GS. So based on this it seems like a pretty clear cut case for NPROF#1. -- hroest 10:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    That's a pretty gross misreading of WP: NPROF. It says "The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources." Nowhere does it say that h-index, citation count, or publication count is a factor for establishing notability. HyperAccelerated ( talk) 02:12, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: Author of quite a few books and peer-reviewed studies, but I don't find critical review of his books, nor any indication of the academic notability needed here. Oaktree b ( talk) 13:11, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete: Fails WP: N. I can't find any sources to establish notability. HyperAccelerated ( talk) 02:16, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Zoé Blanc

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Non-notable figure skater; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the national championships do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. PROD removed without explanation. Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:56, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Pierre-Loup Bouquet

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Non-notable figure skater; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the national championships do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. Previous AFD received zero arguments in favor of keeping this article that cited any evidence of notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:55, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Michael Novales

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Non-notable figure skater; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the national championships do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. Previous AFD received zero arguments in favor of keeping this article that cited any evidence of notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:53, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep: The first two sources already in the article each contain multiple paragraphs of in depth, secondary coverage to meet the WP:GNG. WP:NSKATE does not need to be met when there is WP:SIGCOV present, as there is here. I'd encourage the nom to heed other guidelines besides NSKATE in their nomination statements as it pertains to figure skaters. Let'srun ( talk) 21:40, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Marta Paoletti

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the national championships do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. Previous AFD received zero arguments in favor of keeping this article that cited any evidence of notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:50, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

The Fathers of the Church

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Article appears to fail WP:GNG and WP:BOOKS, with only primary sources used in article. A BEFORE search is complicated by the title of the series. Google Books and Google Scholar turn up citations to individual books in the series, but I can find no secondary coverage of the series as a series. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 00:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment the book exists! [54] [55] and there are reviews [56] [57] Not sure where to go with this. It's a massive undertaking so is probably notable in its field but not enough coverage yet—  Iadmc talk  03:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Logos has the entire 130 volumes for sale electronically for a cool $2365.00 before discounts. Not every book sold by Logos is notable, but many (most?) of them are, and recognized as reference volumes for Christian and adjacent religious studies. How many of the 130 included volumes are individually notable? I have no idea. We've had previous discussions on book series articles recently, and looking at this in that light, I'm relatively certain this should be kept, but more research would be reasonable. Jclemens ( talk) 03:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Jclemens and @ Iadmc - Looks like three of the four links posted above are to direct links to the individual books, not reviews, but the Sage Publications link is to a 1948 review of the series. If we can turn up one or two more reviews of the series itself, I will consider that sufficient to keep and withdraw the nomination. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 13:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    It was hard to find those! I'll try though soon —  Iadmc talk  14:05, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    Thanks! I was not able to turn them up in my BEFORE search but I would like to keep the article if we can establish additional sources. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 14:50, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    There was just a discussion on how series relate to NBOOKS, last month I think, and I believe the general consensus was that a series involving multiple notable books merited an article. Of course, it would then have to list or link to those books, which it currently does not. Jclemens ( talk) 16:34, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    From that discussion, actually, I'd say that a series article without individual book articles to link to can be a sensible outcome per WP:PAGEDECIDE when individual books are notable but readers will be better served by series-level coverage. ~ L 🌸 ( talk) 17:27, 18 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ LEvalyn @ Jclemens Can you share a link to that discussion? I am operating off the WP:NBOOK policy, which does not address series. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 17:34, 18 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Dclemens1971 Sure, it's here. Looking more closely, there were a few folks who wanted to treat "large general-topic publisher book series" different from, e.g. Game of Thrones-style series. But if folks are able to turn up NBOOK reviews for a few of the individual books in this particular series, there would at least be a case to be made. ~ L 🌸 ( talk) 17:55, 18 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    OK, let's see what comes up. After reading the debate, I'm reluctant to withdraw this nomination on the basis of proposals that have not been adopted as policy; my read of the governing policy would still require WP:GNG to be demonstrated for a series even if individual books are notable. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 18:54, 18 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    But each book having it's own article would be mad! Better to have them under one umbrella surely? —  Iadmc talk  18:56, 18 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    Given the dearth of reviews I'm not sure how many are notable on their own anyway. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 20:13, 18 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Commment: I'll throw my two cents in: I think that if the series is published as a series and there are many reviews for the individual books (but those are not independently notable themselves) then the series should be treated as notable. That said, it should absolutely be up to the quality of the reviews and where they were published. Offhand the reviews for the series looks to be pretty numerous. They seem to get routinely reviewed in The Heythrop Journal and Scripta Theologica, but have also received reviews from Isis (journal), New Blackfriars, and so on. My workplace's database is pulling up hundreds of reviews. Granted I haven't been able to verify them all, but that does point fairly heavily towards notability and I do think it would be a disservice to not cover the series because there aren't enough individual volumes that are notable. That's kind of taking a "not seeing the forest for the trees" approach. Besides, with something like this it's usually better to just cover the series rather than the individual volumes in order to prevent the creation of dozens of articles (assuming that the individual books are notable). ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 14:10, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
    Offhand I am seeing enough reviews to where I could probably argue individual notability and articles for some volumes, but I think that might be a waste considering that these would likely be multiple stub articles. Better to have the one article and cut off unnecessary individual ones. ( Here is what I'm seeing, if anyone is curious.) ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 14:16, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - there are dozens of reviews of articles in the series: people write reviews every time a new one comes out: so the series is certainly notable, with many reliable sources. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 20:26, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Radio Dubuque

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It seems unlikely that a company that owns radio stations in only one market — Dubuque, Iowa, of course — could possibly attain the significant coverage needed to meet the GNG, much less NCORP. WCQuidditch 00:29, 24 June 2024 (UTC) reply