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Hi, I see you have reverted my edit in the Arabic numerals article. I think there is a misunderstanding on your part here. The Arabic numerals article talks about the decimal glyphs (0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9), it does not talk about the Hindu–Arabic numeral system. The system did indeed originate in India. The Glyphs , however, are a pure Arab invention and has nothing to do with India. They were first invented by the Arabs of North Africa and Spain, and the source for that is already provided in the article. So I don't see what is your point of objection exactly? Viaros17 ( talk) 17:26, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
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If you don't like what I'm adding, don't censor it. Irfan Habib isn't talking about any Aryan invasion, but simply a migration which is the topic. So I fail to see your problem.
If it's simply because of the interpretations about Dasas being dark-complexioned, you can add a contrary view. But you cannot pick and choose what to add or remove. It is unethical to only consider one reliable source as correct and censor another reliable source.
As for taking a break, I will not be cowing down to your threats or letting you get away with what you want. Reliably sourced and relevant content should be added MonsterHunter32 ( talk) 22:18, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
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Never realised that the late Harappans were kind of split-up; sites had moved north and south, due to aridisation. See Giosan (2012) p.4. and Narasimhan et al. (2018). So, which Harappans moved south and mixed with the hunter-gatherers to form the Dravidians? Quite obvious, isn't it? Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 14:06, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
the ASI and ANI were both largely unformed at the beginning of the 2nd millennium BCE, and imply that the ASI may have formed in the course of the spread of West Asian domesticates into peninsular India beginning around 3000 BCE (where they were combined with local domesticates to form the basis of the early agriculturalist economy of South India (40)), or alternatively in association with eastward spread of material culture from the Indus Valley after the IVC declined (41). Further evidence for a Bronze Age formation of the ASI comes from our analysis of Austroasiatic-speaking groups in India such as Juang, who have a higher ratio of AASI-to-Iranian agriculturalist-related ancestry than the ASI (Fig. 3, Supplementary Materials). Austroasiatic speakers likely descend from populations that arrived in South Asia in the 3 rd millennium BCE (based on hill cultivation systems associated with the spread of Austroasiatic languages (20)), and our genetic results show that when Austroasiatic speakers arrived they mixed with groups with elevated ratios of AASI- to Iranian-agriculturalist-related ancestry than are found in the ASI, showing that the ASI had not yet overspread peninsular India.
The reason that the ratio of Iran_N to Steppe_EMBA does not decline monotonically as one goes from west to east along North Indian plain is that Indo-Aryans were not expanding into a Dravidian India. Dravidian India was expanding only somewhat ahead of Indo-Aryan India, and in some places not all at all.
A parsimonious hypothesis is that as Steppe_MLBA groups moved south and mixed with Indus_Periphery-related groups at the end of the IVC to form the ANI, other Indus_Periphery-related groups moved further south and east to mix with AASI groups in peninsular India to form the ASI. This is consistent with suggestions that the spread of the IVC was responsible for dispersing Dravidian languages (42-44), although scenarios in which Dravidian languages derive from pre-Indus languages of peninsular India are also entirely plausible as ASI ancestry is mostly derived from the AASI.
And the recent phylogenic study says:
We find the general congruence across models on a median root age for the Dravidian language family of around 4000–4500 years ago including similar 95% HDP ranges supportive of a positive evaluation of the dating results. Nevertheless, the uncertainty on the root age is large, especially for the best-fitting analyses featuring a relaxed clock. Therefore, we cannot exclude the possibility that the root of the Dravidian language family is 6000 or 6500 years old.
-- Kautilya3 ( talk) 07:35, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
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Hello Kautilya3. Recently this page showed up at WP:RFPP, where User:Dlohcierekim applied two days of semiprotection. Since I see your name in the history, I wonder if you have an opinion on what to do. There is some kind of revert war about tens of thousands of bytes of text, which goes back and forth. Do you think the article would benefit from an WP:RFC? Then we would at least know what the fight was about :-). Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 20:06, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
This article may be of interest to you: Damgaard et al. (2018), The first horse herders and the impact of early Bronze Age steppe expansions into Asia. The archeological supplements contain a wealth of information! Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 07:10, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Good work bandhu. From what I have seen so far, you are doing a great work here keeping a cool head. Some of the comments are funny too. :) Thanks and keep it up. DBig Xray 13:52, 12 May 2018 (UTC) |
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Dear Kautilya you have reverted my recent edits but none of the sources mentioned in the article state "India and Pakistan claimed victory" , can you check and confirm All books mention India won the war Janwar jibba ( talk) 00:44, 21 May 2018 (UTC)Janwar_Jibba
Should Hindavi Swarajya really be a separate article? Can you think of a suitable merge + redirect target? Vanamonde ( talk) 07:45, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi Kautilya3, I think you are trying to behave like a boss in your responses. You need not do it, I understand content dispute. Saying that you can get me sanctioned has happened on article talk page earlier, you bring up arbipa several times. Please understand I have read it and it is disruptive to keep talking in threatening tone. So, please keep away from my talk page if you want to offer only one more threat. I have a way of thinking, grasping things, and there is nothing wrong with it. If you believe there is a policy violation, though I do not want to, you may bring it to the attention of arbipa, you do not have to offer more chastising. Most of the exchange we had was about content on my talk page hence I copied it to article talk page. Please trim it as you deem fit, but please do not revert it in bulk, that is not acceptable to me, my response are not in isolation, they need the questions that you raise hence I can not surgically remove your entire response. Find something agreeable and hit revert button less, let me know and I can always make such edits myself. With this kind of interaction, no wonder, there are very few new editors embrace editing. Gian ( talk) 12:35, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
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Please stop stalking me repeatedly. Get involved if you are part of the edits and issues. There are wiki guidelines on anti-stalking. 202.156.182.84 ( talk) 06:31, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
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You are invited to join the discussion at Template_talk:Hindu_politics#Rename_this_to_Hindutva_politics?. Appreciate your kind thoughts DBig Xray 07:28, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I saw that you reverted the edits I made though I don't understand the reason why. The source I removed had been deleted so I removed it from the page as the information in the page became baseless. Also, speech marks were added to improve the accuracy of the article as "terrorist" is a politically subjective word but I'm glad you had no problem with that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gangadesh721 ( talk • contribs) 10:57, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
My bad, the link was actually link number 14: /info/en/?search=2016_Pathankot_attack#cite_note-14 I don't dispute your other points. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gangadesh721 ( talk • contribs) 19:25, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
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Then change the country to "Pakistan Occupied/Administered" Kashmir. Why have you changed it to Pakistan then? Please don't threaten to block me. We are 1.25 Billion strong. How many you will block? Swastikm ( talk) 04:53, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
hi, How is the current status of this article. I saw you making few reverts in past. Is the current version sufficiently sourced ? if you had already done some work and could summarize, i could start from there. thanks a lot. -- DBig Xray 18:27, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
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I was thinking of taking Template:Hindu politics to TfD: it's a completely incoherent set of links. Then, I realized the article it's based on, Hindu politics, is even worse. Unfortunately, any effort to blow it up and start over is unlikely to be successful, so it has to be cleaned up. I was thinking of taking a shot at it, and to begin by renaming it to Hinduism in politics. Thoughts on this? Also, would you be able to help? I'd appreciate it if you could. Fowler&fowler, do you have any opinions on this? Vanamonde ( talk) 07:25, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
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Hi Kautilya3. There's an interesting article, Poznik et al. (2016), Punctuated bursts in human male demography inferred from 1,244 worldwide Y-chromosome sequences. At page 19 is a tabel with a dating of rapid growth os R1b-L11 in Europe; and H1-M52, R1a-Z93, and L1-M11 in India. The authors calculated ith 30 years oer generation, which resulted in an outburst of R1a 5300 YBP / 2300 BCE, that is, during the IVC. Food for the indigenists! (Surprisingly, they didn't pick it up; but let's wait and see) Or... 30 years per generation is waaaaaay too long. I did a recalculation, setting the outburst of H1-M52 at 2200 BCE (what else? The IVC was huge, or there must have been an unknown civilisation in India preceding the IVC), and then it fits quite nicely: R1a-Z93 starts to grow at 1500 BCE, and shows a second, prolonged outburst at 1000-700 BCE, that is, the Kuru Kingdom. Interestingly, L1-M11, south IVC/ASI, also starts to grow at 900 BCE. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 07:34, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Ah, no, one indigenist picked it up: A.L. Chavda (2017), Propagandizing the Aryan Invasion Debate: A Rebuttal to Tony Joseph:
After approximately 5,000 BCE, the monsoon started declining monotonically. This gradually weakened the Sarasvati, which eventually dried out to a large extent around 1,500 BCE. The Harappan civilization thus gradually deurbanized due to declining monsoons, and its inhabitants migrated both eastward as well as westward, which is a logical and plausible explanation for the “striking expansions within R1a-Z93” that occurred approximately 4,000 – 4,500 years ago per [5].
Zeng et al. (2018), Cultural hitchhiking and competition between patrilineal kin groups explain the post-Neolithic Y-chromosome bottleneck, also refer to Poznik (2016).
The sex-bias has also been noted by others:
Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 08:00, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
And here's another one who picked-up a clue from Underhill (2015):
Dr. Peter Underhill's 2015 paper has already found 'the geographic distribution of R1a-M780' might reflect 'early urbanization within the Indus Valley'.
I noticed this myself too, and puzzled over it: could R1a have come to India via Iran? Or... is the dating simply incorrect; you remember, the chicken-argument and the problem of how long one generation lasts. But see Haplogroup R1a#Transcaucasia & West Asian origins and possible influence on Indus Valley Civilisation, note 8 & note 9. Those indigemists never seem to dig deep; they shop short when they find pyrite. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 08:06, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
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Kautilya, I recently reverted an edit by a POV warrior at Maratha–Mysore War and then realized that I wasn't confident that the version I reverted to was correct either. The linked sources that I was able to look up treat the subject perfunctorily, and I cannot research better sources right at this moment. So I thought I'd take the easy way out and drop you a note since you may now the answer offhand or have sources handy!
By the way, nice to see you around and active. Hope you are doing well here and in real life. Abecedare ( talk) 08:23, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
[5] It would be amusing, if such folks were any less serious in their threats. Vanamonde ( talk) 17:01, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
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There is a confusion between Sanskrit Mythology and history. So please do not share your mythological believes in in anthropological, Historical and archaeological facts. Please read all the back references
and understand how the western and north Indian historian has used mythological stories to describe Indian history. This publication and few more in the recent past has opened eye about the mythology and origin of Sanskrit in Middle eastern along with other Indo-European languages. Especially since Sanskrit language did not have a script till 14th century, rest of the history is obvious. It is not extrapolated please read the following papers and understand the truth.
For Sanskrit origin
For Tamil language in Indian subcontinent
— Preceding unsigned comment added by MaduraiSelvam ( talk • contribs) 03:00, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
All the information about Sanskrit is based on Vedic mythological verses that brought Varna system (caste system) was written only during 14th century AD. Information said about Sanskrit in any pages of Wikipedia are political propaganda of the people promoting that Language as older. Till now there is no Archeological record of Sanskrit in Indian subcontinent on this matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaduraiSelvam ( talk • contribs) 11:30, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi. I noticed that you reverted my changes to the aforementioned article which were editing the article to removing the use of "terrorism" to describe the attack. I would just like to state for the record that I do indeed condemn the attack and regard it as a barbaric act of violence. However, as you know already, Wikipedia does not function on emotions regardless of how morally justified they may seem.
It was therefore my reasoning to edit the article to remove wording that was emotionally input into the article and that does not adhere to Wikipedia's editorial standards. I again cite my reasoning being that "terrorism" and "terrorist" are political words and argue that the provision of "reliable" sources is not balanced to equally represent the "other side" of the issue, namely the reporting done by media organisations that offer an alternative but equally reliable point of view. If we take a look at the "Due and undue weight" section of WP:NOV we see that "Neutrality requires that each article or other page in the mainspace fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint in the published, reliable sources." I would like to point out how WP:FALSEBALANCE is not relevant here as the opposition to the use of "terrorism" and "terrorist" is not a minority view, extraordinary claim nor is the acceptance of the use of "terrorism" or "terrorist" accepted in mainstream scholarship, rather the opposite.
WP:BESTSOURCES and WP:BALANCE are also important as many of the sources provided (even apart from the Indian ones) are biased against one of the accused parties (Pakistan) such as some of the Western media outlets. This can be discussed for each outlet if need be though from a neutral and logical point of view, this goes without saying given the contentious geopolitics involving Pakistan and some Western countries. I also highly disagree with the use of citing think tanks, for example the Lowy Institute. As you will understand, think tanks are not reliable or credible sources of information and regardless of the validity of their claims of being independent, they many a time present one sided views. On Wikipedia, their credibility is certainly in question as can be witnessed here: /info/en/?search=Talk%3AThink_tank#Think_tank_trust/credibility
Speaking of bias, if we take a look at the "Bias in sources" section of WP:NPOV, we can see that "However, biased sources are not inherently disallowed based on bias alone, although other aspects of the source may make it invalid. Neutral point of view should be achieved by balancing the bias in sources based on the weight of the opinion in reliable sources and not by excluding sources that do not conform to the editor's point of view. This does not mean any biased source must be used; it may well serve an article better to exclude the material altogether." I therefore am not saying that biased sources should be completely removed from the page (though as you see, it is recommended to exclude this material altogether which can be done in this case as plenty of material from other sources is available) but that it should be balanced proportionally which is not the case in this Wikipedia article.
It is important to compare this article to one on a very similar incident, the 2016 Uri attack. On that article, the attack type is listed as "insurgency, guerrilla warfare" and the use of "terrorism" and "terrorist" is largely limited to use in quotes by various media outlets though it must be said that that article suffers from the same error of editors accidentally or purposefully using media outlets such as BBC news to justify the use of "terrorism" and "terrorist" to describe the incident and perpetrators respectively even though the cited article does not use either words and instead opts for using the terms "attack" and "attacker".
As you recommended, I did vist the talk page but this issue has already been discussed before though the discussion did not reach a conclusion and could be deemed as failed ( WP:PROPOSAL). Deducting from the discussion, however, I am firmly of the position that the argument against using "terror" and "terrorism" and instead opting for more neutral language was far more compelling and reasoned than the counter argument.
Finally, the UN definition of terrorism is: "Criminal acts intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror in the general public, a group of persons or particular persons for political purposes are in any circumstance unjustifiable, whatever the considerations of a political, philosophical, ideological, racial, ethnic, religious or any other nature that may be invoked to justify them."
As can be seen from the above definition, it can be argued that this attack was not an act of terror though that is understandably debatable. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gangadesh721 ( talk • contribs)
Pakistan condemned the attack and said it wanted to build on the goodwill created in the recent high-level contacts. "Pakistan remains committed to partner with India as well as other countries in the region to completely eradicate the menace of terrorism," foreign ministry spokesperson Qazi Khalilullah tweeted. TV footage showed armed guards outside the base, which is located 50 km (30 miles) from the border with Pakistan, and police stepped up vehicle checks in the area.
Thanks for systematically replying to each one of my points and offering me a response that doesn't emanate emotional distress. I would instead invite you to start editing all articles to ensure that they meet the editorial standards of Wikipedia that you have asked me a few times before to become familiar with. Afterall, it would justify the privileged position you have been given by the Wikimedia organisation as part of Wiki Project India. It is not wise nor academic to resort to "whataboutism" so you should focus on the issue presented at hand. I'll also bring to your attention how the 2016 Quetta police training college attack uses "militants" as well as "terrorist" and the attack type is not listed as something so vague and political as "terrorism" which already is far more neutral than articles I've seen about "terror" attacks in India. Admittedly, the 2016 Quetta police training college attack article among all others relating to "terrorist" attacks could still be more neutral but we'll work one at a time.So I ask you again, what justification was there to revert my edits? Can you disprove the arguments I've presented?
Much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gangadesh721 ( talk • contribs) 18:41, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for this reponse. I appreciate the consistency in your standards when dealing with an understandably contentious issue. I did indeed look over WP:LABEL and should have mentioned it in my original comment. Referencing this, however, may not be justified as the sources cited in the Pathankot attack article did not use the words "terrorism" or "terrorist" except to quote individuals who deemed it an act of terror. Individuals are not a credible source of information due to bias derived from personal beliefs e.g political and religious. These miscited sources include BBC news and the New York Times which you can check for yourself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gangadesh721 ( talk • contribs) 19:48, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
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Hello,
I need you to look at the Kulbhushan Jadhav page where a very important piece of information is under threat. Is it vandalism/edit warring, not sure. The report by the U.N needs to be told in the article. I'm new on Wikipedia so request you to please look into it asap. Thank you. Adding The Truth ( talk) 15:55, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Do you think the U.N report which came a few days after this incident isn't relevant when the U.N said that the civilians should not be tried in military courts when Kulbhushan Jadhav was infact tried in a military court? I think this criticism by the U.N is very important and needs to be in the article. Adding The Truth ( talk) 09:07, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Just to be clear "I think..." was used as in 'I believe' or "It should be this way" or 'Something isn't right and needs to be made right'. That sorta stuff. Well, we can agree to disagree. Adding The Truth ( talk) 09:38, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
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Hello Kautilya,
Could you please look into this? https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Hinduism&diff=851304870&oldid=851301762&diffmode=source
The edit was reverted for mysterious claims. The editor claims its redundant and its already covered in the lead, but I don't think it is covered in the article and yet the edit was reverted.
Need your assistance. Onkuchia ( talk) 12:11, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
Indologist Alexis Sanderson also argues that, before the arrival of Islam in India, there was no Indian term which corresponds to "Hinduism". According to Indologist Alexis Sanderson, "Sanskrit sources differentiated Vaidika, Vaiṣṇava, Śaiva, Śākta, Saura, Buddhist, and Jaina traditions, but they had no name that denotes the first five of these as a collective entity over and against Buddhism and Jainism."[99]
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Came across these two sources (MSW had cited them at Sanskrit; have read only few excerpts on Google Books), which I thought relevant to the question you raised at Talk:Hinduism. I realize your question was rhetorical and concerned Vedas rather than Sanskrit but thought you'd enjoy the refs in any case. Cheers. Abecedare ( talk) 16:37, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
In fact, Sanskrit functioned less as a target language and more as the subject and object of cultural identity. Not many were able to read Sanskrit texts in the Devanagari script even after attending the school for some years... [skipping several pages] ... it was a resource that immigrants could identify as historically theirs that would pose no threat to any one language in use. Sanskrit was literally labeled as the source language of many other languages in actual use and was revered by all. Since Sanskrit was identified as something that preceded the present-day differences, it became a heritage marker rather than just a language, and thus a unifier of all who identified with the dominant South Asian faith and cultural tradition.
hey can you please participate with me in promoting this article to a "good article" .One reviewer has suggested the section congress as a mass movement needs to be better composed .Can you please do that? .I've already done all of his other suggestions.Hope you react positively.Thanks. Akhiljaxxn ( talk) 02:04, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
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Thanks for your suggestion. About my link edit.. Gujar tribe or Gurjar tribe are same as Gurjara tribe.. so i linked the same in gurjaradesa page. Gewingewin ( talk) 08:26, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
to chime in at WP:AN#Standard Offer appeal by User:Towns Hill.You were quite involved (as far as I recall) in the Faizan-mess and may wish to see THill's assertions over the thread.Best, ∯WBG converse 12:01, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
You will need to participate at DRN. No more edit wars please, either by you or any supporters. Warm regards, Dilpa kaur ( talk) 03:52, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
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Hi Kautilya3. At Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Standard Offer appeal by User:Towns Hill (copied from User talk:Towns Hill#Faizan), Towns Hill claims that he was recruited by you for editing purposes. You may wish to comment on this, as - given the turbulent nature of the whole Kashmir topic area - it's undoubtedly going to lead to some investigation. Yunshui 雲 水 13:57, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi Yun shui, January 2017 was indeed the period of the ARE case I mentioned above. May 2016 was also of a similar kind. I am pasting my advice to him from May 2016:
From: Kautilya3 <...>
To: Kautilya3 <...>
Subject: Copy of your message to Towns Hill: Please don't quit
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 11:48:36 +0000
Hi <...>, Please don't quit. You have plenty of support, and there is a good chance you can get the sanction reduced.
But you would need to show that you understand what you did wrong. (Ignore advice from all the edit-warriors. They will only get you into more trouble.)
Make sure that you address the points Ed Johnston raised: prior warning, page just coming off full-protection, RfC going on. You need to show understanding of these issues for other admins to become sympathetic. Saying that other people were more wrong won't get you anywhere.
A better strategy might be to propose your own proposals, such as you will abide by 1RR or that you will follow WP:BRD.
All the best. Kautilya
This must have been a reaction to his post here. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 09:41, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Subject: Kashmir
Hi Towns Hill, the real battle is in the "foreign rule" section. This is where the "Kashmiri identity" has to be fought. You can concede other nitpicking, but I look forward to your help in fighting this section.
Cheers,
Kautilya3
Ok, you get the first call. I will have to think about to recollect the context of this message, which I will do later in the evening. But, after that, I will be expecting an answer to my questions. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 11:46, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Towns Hill has been adding a large amount of material lately. I cam over to review it and, if possible, clean it." The creation of the "Foreign rule" section was part of such "cleaning" and it was tentative, as I explained. I also stated that it was based on a suggestion of Wasiq 9320 at Talk:Kashmiris. So, I was more the messenger than the creator. When the labelling was disputed, I rather expected that Wasiq and Towns Hill would pick up the tab and argue their case. Instead, I was left to defend it on my own. That would have been my reason for prodding him.
I had been recruited (and rejected) at various times by Faizan, Kautilya3 and others for meat puppetry...", which is clearly a wild hallucination. The time line shows that he had been adding tens of thousands of bytes of content to Kashmir pages of his own accord before I said anything to him. Does this post sound like what my "meatpuppet" would say?
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Telugu system of persons naming is very different from rest of india. The surnames of telugu people are ancestral village names and r referred as housenames and gotras...Musunuri housename and gotra is present in only Kamma caste. Pemmasani Nayakas of Gandikota referred themselves in an inscription as kammas. There gotra is musunuri and according to many Telugu historians they r descendants of musunuri nayakas....Bsl hanumantha rao, Mallampalli somasekhara sharma, etukuri balaram murthy, d. Prasad etc brahmin scholars outrightly proven musunuris r kammas....they r very prominent historians...no body knows about m. Rama rao.....reddy is not a caste and a title till today used by nearly 20 telugu castes....there is no inscriptional evidence to say the caste of reddy dynasty as reddy is just a title those days.....kapaya is assisted by 75 subordinate nayakas among them vema reddy is famous this is clearly mentioned in Anithalli inscription of rajamundry reddy dynasty clan.....Ikshvaku veera purusha dattha inscription of Kamma Rashtra is located in Krishna district so kammanadu s not just confined to guntur.....There is a inscription of kapaya in guntur district..... He ruled the same territory equally of kakatiya ganapathi deva as quoted by famous historian mallampalli Tostmonl ( talk) 09:08, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Lillinan1 ( talk · contribs) made a lot of page moves before being blocked as a sock. Given the sock farm surrounding Rajesh rao kumar ( talk · contribs), I'm pretty sure that at least some of them will be pov moves relating to the Nayaka name etc but I don't have the stamina to delve into them. Do you? - Sitush ( talk) 12:45, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
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Hi Kautilya3 please develop articles of different sub schools of Vedanta and their founders Vishishtadvaita ( Ramanuja), Dvaita Vedanta ( Madhvacharya), Bhedabheda Dvaitadvaita ( Nimbarka), Achintya Bheda Abheda ( Chaitanya Mahaprabhu), Shuddhadvaita ( Vallabha). Most of the articles are written poorly with ill-sourced since you guys are expert in Hindu-related article I request you to develop these articles (no hurry take your time). Please help @ Ms Sarah Welch:--.-- 223.223.140.102 ( talk) 04:13, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
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hi KT, per WP:TPO I think you have a choice to completely remove the text [8] instead of striking it. since the conditions are met. If you feel that a line doesnt help the discussion you can verywell choose to remove it completely or replace with a better link, until no one has replied/pointed to it. cheers. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 14:41, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
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"WP:NPOV, this has been contradicted in the same source, and plenty of other sources
." Historical sources are sources and one needs to include it as well. Why did you delete the Greek historical account from the introduction? Want to discuss. — Preceding
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It is pretty condescending of you to say that I haven't read the source to say the least. Show some minimum courtesy. Is this "But it is pretty obvious that you haven't actually seen the book" the way to have a scholarly debate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mercuryjo ( talk • contribs) 19:36, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Kautilya3, Who are you to decide Megasthenes is not a reliable source? Quote me a single eminent historian positing such an argument. Mercuryjo ( talk) 01:56, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Generally speaking, the men who have hitherto written on the affairs of India were a set of liars —Deimachus holds the first place in the list, Megasthenes comes next; while Onesicritus and Nearchus, with others of the same class, manage to stammer out a few words [of truth]. (Emphasis added)
And what was the condescension you showed towards me by judging that I am not well read? When you do it is fine but when I do it is "Gung ho"??? Mercuryjo ( talk) 14:10, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
So you mean to say is your group of people like a cult or something? So you will allow only things you agree with? Mercuryjo ( talk) 14:10, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
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Kautilya, The word Hindusthan is found in hindi & other north indian languages, as the page in question itself states. The word Bharatha desha are found in the southern & Oriya languages & bharath in rest of them. Hindusthan is restricted largely to the areas under mughal rule. I'm not sure how to prove a negative. the links cited for that claim are showing them in urdu/hindi languages. the claim however is not specific enough to delineate that 'hindusthan' is only used in hindi/ urdu & other mughal ruled regions. In Telugu, Kannada, or Malayalam, for example,the official names & vernacular names are India or Bhaaratha. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.44.177.134 ( talk) 00:18, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
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I am giving facts a figures with references you checked Indians in Pakistan i am editing from this page to page State-sponsored terrorism Thank you (talk) 12:20, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
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Hello. I have reverted your move per WP:COMMONNAME and for being undiscussed. There's enough turbulence around articles about a number of cities etc in Uttar Pradesh as it is, even without undiscussed moves. Cheers, - Tom | Thomas.W talk 18:08, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Do you have any sources at ALL about Kutil and Mura matrilineal lineages? Only someone with absolutely ZERO understanding of Sanskrit would consider Kutil as a lineage. Kutil is Crook (not a human crook but a bend). Kautilya means Crooked. It's his Pseudonym. His real name's Chanakya Vishnugupta Sharman, a Nambudiri Brahmin from Kerala, nothing to do with any random imaginary tribal North Indian lineage. And who are you to decide Aryans were intruders? Your entire profile is a Neo-Pseudo-Hindu Dalit Pride Marxist Romila Thapar halcyon era Buddhism harping brand hijacking identity of Chanakya based off your reading of the 150 rupees translation of Chankaya Niti by Marxist interpolating fraud Vishwamitra Sharma available at any money spinning temple market. How can you claim to be devoid of bias on a site like Wikipedia? 115.97.47.219 ( talk) 07:29, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Dubious edit. I read the cited source and I still don't understand how this one is "more accurate". Looks more WP:POV rather than representing the source. -- Wario-Man ( talk) 17:11, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
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Hello, that section you removed about women's actions during the Kashmir conflict was one that my group had to write for a group project and add to a Wikipedia page. However, it has to be a subsection rather than an entire page. Is there any other page that it can be added to regarding the Kashmir Conflict? Flowergirls7 ( talk) 01:34, 4 December 2018 (UTC)Flowergirls7
Hi, I can see that you contributed extensively to this article Musunuri Nayakas. I can see several changes happened to this article recently and I am not sure if those are constructive. Can you look into this article when you get a chance. Cheers Sharkslayer87 ( talk) 16:04, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
Did you send me a mail from different email IDs... so a total of two mails? My Gmail is giving me a really weird message. :D :D Regards. DiplomatTesterMan ( talk) 05:00, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Read and discuss on Ayodhya talk page before removing my citation again. Thanks. JayB91 ( talk) 06:53, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
I am concerned that you are using the article on Kartarpur Corridor to publish unverifiable, non cited information. Please remember Wikipedia is a knowledge base and not a ground of political discourse. Please keep the tone neutral and desist from statements that arouse sentiments. For instance, you claimed that the Akali Dal asked PM Nehru to redraw India's western boundary and include the Kartarpur in India. You have not cited any original article or knowledge base to substantiate this claim. I have complete knowledge of this proposed corridor and I created the page too. Incited, and non cited unreliable claims will be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amanverma121 ( talk • contribs) 07:34, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
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On 29 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bleed India with a Thousand Cuts, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after its defeat in the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971, Pakistan formulated a military doctrine designed to " Bleed India with a Thousand Cuts"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bleed India with a Thousand Cuts. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, Bleed India with a Thousand Cuts), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
The DYK progress was not possible without your immense help in improving the article. It is only fair if the credits for this DYK is shared with you. cheers. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 10:27, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
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Dilpa kaur, Thanks for your efforts to address the quotation issues. I add quotations when
I also use "footnotes" when I do some of these things, rather than "references". But I admit that I don't have a hard-and-fast rule about it. You should not remove a footnote and convert it into a reference without discussion.
My quotations are also usually one or two sentences, not "massive amounts of paragraphs" as you allege. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 19:55, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Hello Kautilya3: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, DBig Xrayᗙ 15:28, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Hope the new year will bring more friendly debates and collaboration for us. Best wishes. Cheers -- DBig Xrayᗙ 15:28, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Happy New year! Sorry for replying late. Wiki user anonymous ( talk) 08:05, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
I am a big fan of a game named Theotown. I am confused how to make a page on it. Maybe you can help me? Wiki user anonymous ( talk) 08:03, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
First off, the article Mughal–Maratha Wars, the sourcing is in serious need of reviewing, revising, and fact-checking.
Secondly, a set of sentences:
supposedly sourced to Robinson, Howard; James Thomson Shotwell (1922). "Mogul Empire and the Marathas". The Development of the British Empire. Houghton Mifflin. p. 106–132. A search through this book for Ghorpade, Athani(Attani), Kasim Khan, bring up nothing. The last sentence is linked to a book that has plagiarized from Wikipedia.
Do you know of any source mentioning the battle of Athani(Attani)??
Google book search turns up nothing. Jstor turns up nothing.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Kansas Bear ( talk) 03:42, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi there, I can see that you were involved with this article in the past. I have added some reliable sources at Talk:Raju. Can you please suggest improvements to the article as it is highly one sided and doesn't include all viewpoints. Thanks Sharkslayer87 ( talk) 15:13, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
this section look way too nuanced ? ∯WBG converse 13:01, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
I have remade the edits, please approve. — Preceding unsigned comment added by School Wiki Group Leader ( talk • contribs) 16:31, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
The references state clearly that "Though the move is aimed at benefiting the poorer segments of upper caste Hindus as well as other religions, the suggested eligibility criteria covers over 80% of India's population" then why are you adding 20% more? Djsnape ( talk) 13:59, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
Ironically, nearly 100% of Indian households will be eligible beneficiaries under the above-mentioned income criterion as per government data.
Thanks for your swift reply, do you think is it right to add 100% and not 80% which is in the sub-heading of the article. Is it neutral, maybe you should remove that line as sub-heading and content are differing.
SUBHEADING:
Though the move is aimed at benefiting the poorer segments of upper caste Hindus as well as other religions, the suggested eligibility criteria covers over 80% of India's population.
CONTENT:
Ironically, nearly 100% of Indian households will be eligible beneficiaries under the above-mentioned income criterion as per government data.
businesstoday.in is stating both 100 and 80, why are you preferring 100 over 80? Djsnape ( talk) 14:12, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
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Thank you for taking care of the harassment I was facing. I received a ping by Bishonen from the thread but, it was already taken care of by the admins by the time I noticed. You had already said everything there was to say, so nothing for me to add, other than a thanks to you and Bishonen. Regards. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 04:16, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
The Great Kashmir is an Instagram page managed by its single admin Aizaz Ahmad Mir. It is a Srinagar based page and promotes natural beauty of Kashmir. www.instagram.com/thegreatkashmir — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mir Aizaz ( talk • contribs) 10:19, 4 February 2019 (UTC)