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Hello, the old draft at User:Raafie/17th Construction Squadron which you found has been loved a bit and should now survive an AfD. I am not sure of the protocol for taking an article off someone else's page. Can you help or advise? Thanks for finding this. AWHS ( talk) 11:23, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
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Hi John! Discussion on this proposal seems to have fizzled out; should we post it to Central discussion for some more progress? — Pretzels Hii! 18:27, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
Bonjour John, j'ai remarqué ton intervention sur la page francophone Canada aux Jeux paralympiques d'été de 2012 et en consultant ton profil anglophone, je constate que tu es un australien. D'abord toute mon admiration pour l'équipe féminine de basket de ton pays. Dans un match très physique et difficile ( elles n'ont marqué qu'une seule fois dans le dernier quart), les australiennes ont tenu tête aux américaines. Elle ont remporté la demi-finale 40-39 et passent en finale pour la médaille d'or. (C,est mieux que mes canadiiennes). Cet après-midi l'équipe masculine de ton pays affrontent les États-Unis. Bonne chance en cette fin de Jeux paralympiques. In this afternoon the Basketball men's team of your country face the United States team. Good luck. Can be one finale Canada - Australia -- UQAM-basket-HP-Sauce ( talk) 17:56, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Please stop the disruptive tagging. Instead, WP:SOFIXIT and spend the two minutes to fix these articles. The IPC sources are readily available. If you want to continue with the disruptive tagging, then at the same time, please ding back the assessments.
... I'll leave your tagging alone. I accept your update tags as a contract with the HOPAU project that in the next month, you John Vandenberg, will be cleaning them up yourself, that you are putting them up merely for your own reference so that you know which articles you will be updating. I will wait for you to update them and remove any further tags yourself. I'll start working on these articles again when you've finished your updates to all the articles you plan on tagging. I thank you for your efforts improving these articles and your willingness to do content improvement. -- LauraHale ( talk) 04:37, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
fyi: User talk:Jorm (WMF)#main page redesign.
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This edit warrior is removing relevant links from the see also section and making some kind of racist remarks by stating their not persian. [1] Afghanistan is NON persian country but multi-ethnic and majority are NON persian. Afghanistan's constitution states that pashto and dari are the official languages of the country and pashto is also the 2nd major language of pakistan. Not only this, but the culture (especially dress code) of afghans and pakistanis is very similar if not the same. There are also upt to 3 million afghans living in pakistan, and there is free movement between both nations, including heavy trade and everything else. It makes perfect sense to leave the pakistani scout links. He leaves tajikistan and iran but removes pakistani link. please re-block User:Kintetsubuffalo.
Ah, that stupidity... Okay, the reason Iran and Tajikistan are listed is, first, that they are Persic cultures. There is no reason to list Pakistan, as there is a perfectly fine infobox at the bottom which points to the same. Further, Pakistan has always been a member of the world organization since 1950 without a break in continuity. Iran and Afghanistan have both been members and kicked out several times, for political reasons or unrest, though the official line is "nonpayment of dues", and Tajikistan is a member but the membership is tenuous. Pakistan is not related to any of this in any way shape or form. This is some sort of weird WP:POINT-pushing by the IP. It's like someone posting in the article on Titanic that their cousin was an extra in the movie. Great, so what? I'd sooner do away with any "see also" section than let just anybody put random and in this case unrelated information on there. It simply isn't germane.-- Kintetsubuffalo ( talk) 15:41, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for getting back to me. Over at Ittihodi Scouthoi Tojikiston, the intro says "Tajikistan is the only one of the three Persian nations thus far whose Scouting is recognized by WOSM (see Afghanistan and Iran)." It doesnt have a source, but I think this relationship between the three could be an important aspect of all three articles, if some sources can be found for this. And the exclusion of Pakistan is then justified. John Vandenberg ( chat) 04:50, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
Contains a generic link to Google.com , was this meant to be a specific preview? Sfan00 IMG ( talk) 11:02, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
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John, I've presented an interpretation of the results of the proposal in which you've posted a number of times. As a senior editor, would you be willing to comment on this, and if you see fit, to collaborate with other editors on finalising a way forward? Tony (talk) 15:09, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you!! ( RingARoses ( talk) 22:54, 22 October 2012 (UTC))
I see you're involved in some DYK discussions so I wanted to share this experience with you.
Use the above any way you want, if you think it will help. Some related thoughts:
(1) I don't see the main page much, but when I do look, I think a lot of the DYKs are strained, stilted, lame, or all three, and the articles behind them are typically fair to bad, and sometimes embarrassing.
(2) DYK is "Wikipedia's newest content." But how does it help WP to tout that? I have a different idea. Why not forget the "new content" angle and let DYKs come from any content in need of expert attention, and use DYK as a vehicle for attracting such experts (or at least people with a vague interest)? Let's see, how to put this... Make the "Did you know" quesiton no longer a rhetorical one -- something like Did you know this obscure fact?... Because if you did know, you may be especially suited to helping develop this article... See what I'm getting at? Anyway, just an idea.
As I finish up I stumble into the "Template talk:Did you know/removed/\reinstated``/review/upsetnominator" morass. Who are these people? All this falling all over each other to review pages before the reach some phony expiration date, with this tiresome QPQ beancounting thrown in to make it even sillier. What a waste of effort and brainpower!
Cheers. EEng ( talk) 06:16, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
There's really something wrong with these peoiple [5]. Remember, we're talking about [6] (current version) vs [7] (judged "good to go", "well written" and "nice article" for DYK purposes). I really don't care for myself as long as they don't come after me, but this walled garden of self-reinforcing DYK mediocrity is far worse than I thought, and something should be done. I'm tempted to suggest that they either either open a RfC or put a sock in it. What do you suggest? EEng ( talk) 07:17, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Wanted to let you know that I quoted you. - jc37 18:26, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
Could you enlighten me? [11] Prioryman ( talk) 03:18, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
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Hi John, I'm not sure if this was ever webcast but I think its relevant to your earlier inquiries. Victuallers ( talk) 09:58, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
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Would you consider running? -- Anthonyhcole ( talk) 04:26, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
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Congratulations on your engagement! Kaldari ( talk) 12:03, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
Regarding this confusion, could you do a history merge for us? The user will be back tomorrow, so I will have a chat. -- 99of9 ( talk) 11:02, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
So, are you passing through Singapore between 26 November and 6 December? If not, I think we may arrange the next Singapore meetup sometime later. — Cheers, JackLee – talk– 14:39, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi John, I have just posted these questions to Coren. They include quotes from you so I thought I should advise you about them. Regards, EdChem ( talk) 10:50, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
I read that Pending changes are on at English Wiki. How about Wikisource? So look at this. I am beginning to mistrust Wikisource. Can pending changes work there? How rampant is vandalism there?
I am not that active here, and not even there, but this vandalism is just amazing. Some protection is needed, else Wikisource cannot be trusted as one reads it. History2007 ( talk) 00:22, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you very much for sending me the invitation to LangCamp 2012. However, is it possible for me to join while I am not a Balinese or Minangkabau native speaker? NoiX180 ( talk) 14:24, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
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...for finding a good compromise between myself and the editors opposed to linking Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting and Chenpeng Village Primary School stabbing. —Entropy ( T/ C) 08:23, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your recent articles on the subject. Perhaps you'd be interested in the topic I raised here: Wikipedia_talk:POLAND#Restoring_Polandball. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:33, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
And then created this [15]? Seriously? I'm quite appalled and very surprised.VolunteerMarek 20:44, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
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@VM, sorry I have been busy with other things, which I consider more important than trying to engage with you on this, especially after it was deleted so quickly. The article was not a BLP vio, nor was it an attack page or unsourced negative bio, especially not after EEng had worked on it (see section above). It covered the facts, and described him as a model citizen who was a very unfortunate victim, using sources unrelated to the meme in order to do so [17]. It contained many sources other than magazines like NIE and Hiro, such as Fakt.pl & TVN24. He is providing these sources with info, and interviews. He has accepted that in order to fight this he needed to out himself and enter the public arena, because legal approaches were not working. The only concern that I believe you could have justified is that it gave too much weight to the story of the man behind the face, and not enough to the meme itself, but trimming of the bio part could have been addressed with discussion, and by adding more about the meme (of which there is plenty of material, but its not an easy topic for me to work on given most sources are in Polish). I favour including more about the person, as that helps the reader understand the effect that this has had, and the legal reality of this type of meme. Waking up to find it's deleted by you're misuse of CSD is not cool. I expected better. John Vandenberg ( chat) 03:34, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
JVdb, I leave the sourcing controversy to you. You're better at dealing with the self-certain than I am. EEng ( talk) 14:49, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
I gave in to the temptation to continue engaging on the article's Talk. I swear I'm giving it up now. You keep so much more an even keel than I in the face of foolishness, I hope I haven't said too much you find distasteful. I call your attention to my edit summary here [18] which I think lets the air out of the whole BLP nonsense. EEng ( talk) 03:40, 20 December 2012 (UTC) P.S. I still have some things to say re DYK... someday.
John Vandenberg, I know you've been active in the improvement of the articles Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting and Chenpeng Village Primary School stabbing. A consensus still has not been reached as to whether the speculation in several sources suggesting the events were linked somehow should be mentioned in the articles. I think a vote may be necessary to determine whether or not it's included.
Despite the lack of consensus, an admin closed one of the discussions. I tried contacting the admin who closed it but he still believes closing the discussion was the right choice, and that I could talk to another admin.
The fact that this is still being discussed here, here, and here, plus the fact that the Chenpeng Village article currently mentions the Sandy Hook article and that no clear consensus has been reached, means (in my opinion) the discussion on the Sandy Hook article ought to be re-opened. —Entropy ( T/ C) 03:29, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
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Hey John, hope you like your first Christmas in Indonesia. It's... a little different than back home. Ask the Mrs about how "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" is considered a religious song. :-S Keep safe over the holidays, and merry Christmas! — Crisco 1492 ( talk) 16:26, 21 December 2012 (UTC) |
Can you please take me off whatever list your bot is using for your Melbourne meet-up notices. I have been asking for a couple of years to be removed form the notifications list, have long ago removed myself from the "interested" list, asked Steve Zhang to stop sending them to me and at this point I consider it unwanted spam. I am no longer even in Australia, let alone Melbourne, and have zero interest in these notices. Thanks. Sarah 16:38, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
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See Talk:Edwin Mellen Press. Dougweller ( talk) 18:30, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
I notice that you have a writeup of the Ulam Quarterly in your User: space. While upgrading the article on Stanislaw Ulam, I put in a link to your writeup, but after a few months, it got removed. It seems that links between Article and User spaces are prohibited.
Is there any chance that you would be willing to make the page an article? I think it is already good enough, and it might be improved by other editors. If you do move it, please let me know, so that I can link it to the Ulam article. Thanks Deer*lake ( talk) 19:11, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Never heard anything again after emails from you about it... what happened? oh an email reply would be fine... Satu Suro 05:40, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
I'm in meetings today but I should arrive home in Armidale tomorrow. Can't do much before then. Communicating via talk pages on phone is painful, esp. as my battery keeps dying.
SatuSuro, I would prefer questions relating to LangCamp to be over at v:Langcamp, so they are all kept together and others can help answer. Also, that is where a steady stream of information is being collated as people have time. Some of the attendees and some non-attendees have been busy on their respective projects. Most academics and educators involved have have marking to finish, and been on holidays since the event.
Crisco, I'm working on it. Will finish reviewing it on my train or bus trip home, and action it as soon as I get home. John Vandenberg ( chat) 01:05, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Dear John,
it is now one year since WikiProject Open Access was started by User:Bluerasberry on January 10, 2012. Since then, the project has advanced modestly, but we have not interacted much. For the coming year, we certainly want to improve on that.
We also plan to overhaul the project pages to make them more conducive to collaboration, and we are pondering the idea of expanding the concept of a WikiProject Open Access to projects other than the English Wikipedia, e.g. to other languages or to Wikimedia Commons. You are warmly invited to add your voice to all that. We would also appreciate if you would share some of your OA-related activities by way of our news ticker or via the monthly Open Access report that is part of the GLAM newsletter (to which you can subscribe here), or as you see fit otherwise.
As a visual token of the anniversary, I am adding today's Open Access File of the Day. Feel free to nominate files yourself. As of today, commons:Category:Open access (publishing) contains more than 15,000 files, of which about 2/3 are video and sound files uploaded by the Open Access Media Importer.
Thanks for being part of the project, and looking forward to more interaction. With a smile, -- Daniel Mietchen - WiR/OS ( talk) 23:38, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
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Hello and thanks for tagging this for notability back in Jan 2008. You may want to take it to the Notability Noticeboard or AfD to get it resolved. Best wishes, Boleyn ( talk) 22:58, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
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You may wish to see my comments at the bottom of WT:DYK#Number of DYKs. Prioryman ( talk) 08:37, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
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Greetings. You previously redirected Justice for Khojaly to the main article because it was not notable. It has been recreated and I can see with a lot of bias. Should I try to clean it up, or is it still not notable? -- Antelope Hunter ( talk) 12:32, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
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Sending Wikilove :)
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Now you have some wiki love. Just don't tell Siska! :-)
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You are in trouble Kerry! B-) Siska.Doviana ( talk) 01:29, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
A few months ago, you participated in a discussion on Wikipedia talk:Did you know about Gibraltar-related DYKs on the Main Page. I am proposing that the temporary restrictions on such DYKs, which were imposed in September 2012, should be lifted and have set out a case for doing so at Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Gibraltar-related DYKs. If you have a view on this, please comment at that page. Prioryman ( talk) 21:47, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
Discussion is ongoing about how to implement Today's articles for improvement on the Main Page. A proposal is being worked on with general community support, where TAFI is put it on the left hand side, below the DYK content. In order to balance the Main Page, part of this proposal involves increasing the ITN content by one item per day. Since you are an editor involved in the process, I would ask if you could comment on the proposal. -- Nick Penguin( contribs) 17:31, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
— Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:03, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
i'm under 21 but i'm not drink it,i wish you the best and i hope you are happy family Hima fethus ( talk) 11:44, 20 February 2013 (UTC) |
Based on your silence of the past month (assuming you're very busy), would it be safe to assume that the paper from December is not going anywhere? — Crisco 1492 ( talk) 23:01, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
I've put up the geonotice as requested - sorry for the delay. I've used as broad a box as I could reasonably draw, to get in all of Australia. (Has there been any thought of extending the funding opportunity to NZ, OOI? Lots of close historic ties in that period, and there's no local chapter - it might be worth raising the possibility...)
In terms of on-wiki notification, other than the obvious people at WP:AUSTRALIA, you might also want to leave messages for the WP:MILHIST project, who'll probably be a great source of volunteers, and Ed at the Signpost has been very good at including mentions of open WiR posts in News & Notes - you can submit it at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions. Andrew Gray ( talk) 18:00, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi John
The Director of IML-UQ and I have been going over the comments on our new wikipedia page. We are keen to keep our page.
Regarding notability, Brisbane's Courier Mail has written several substantial articles about the Institute of Modern Languages in the early years, visit http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=institute+of+modern+languages&l-title=The+Courier-Mail+%28Brisbane%2C...%7Ctitleid%3A12 . We have also found an article on the IML in the 1934 Brisbane Telegraph. These articles would suggest significant coverage, they are independent of UQ or IML, and contain lengthy paragraphs.
How do we go about inserting these references? Do you think we need to edit the article to reflect a more historical depiction of the IML and it's contribution to multiculturalism in Brisbane?
Thank you so much for all your help, kindest regards, Julia Imlprwiki ( talk) 06:40, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
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I started a draft RfC in my Userspace. Please feel free to contribute. I intend to directly ask two people who opposed the proposal to assist in the drafting of the RfC (Prioryman and Yngvadottir) and one other supporter other than myself (you) as a start to ensure it is written in the best way possible while adhering to a NPOV.-- Gilderien Chat| List of good deeds 15:05, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Now that pic on your user page (red background) is a lovely one of you and Siska. The photographer must have been good at priming his/her subjects! Tony (talk) 02:46, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
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Hi John, I have a newspaper type clipping with a caption "A.M. for February 16, 1954". I think this may refer to the Australian Magazine as you have added to the disambiguation page (complete with abbreviation A.M.), but there is no linked page for more info - wonder if you at least have some idea of where I might find out more about it - including whether it was still around in 1954. Mike ( talk) 07:19, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
I changed the WM-Au member to a single template that can be categorised in the future. Feel free to undo the change. Bidgee ( talk) 11:26, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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P.S. Never got back to you about DYK but every time I get a glimpse I get a sick feeling.
Actually, I want your opinion. People keep telling me to go for FA on Gage and maybe the other two just mentioned. But I worry that the unusual style (e.g. the extensive Notes, and liberal weaving of quotations into the text, where sources said it better than I could) will arouse -- well, arouse something. I'd be interested in your thoughts.
Hellllllp! Talk:Advice_Polack#Sources.2C_one_by_one. EEng ( talk) 02:49, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
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We made a lot of changes to our page, Institute of Modern Languages, UQ, but it hasn't changed the writing at the top of the page. Has no one looked at it? Do I need to do something? It's important to us that the wikipedia entry does not have the writing at the top, and that it is not merged with UQ. If you can write to me at my email also, that would help alot: [email protected]
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John, I notice that BP has been semiprotected for the past two and a half years. Is that still warranted by some policy or program of which I'm not aware? If not, I think that it should be unprotected. I may be wrong, but I don't know of any good reason to extend semiprotection to this article and not to others. Coretheapple ( talk) 17:05, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much for unblocking my accounts. Seleucidis ( talk) 20:48, 18 April 2013 (UTC) |
Hi John. I've sent you three emails, one before the Sydney symposium and two after, and haven't received a reply. Is there a problem? -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 01:12, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
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John, this edit is so uncharacteristic that I am worried that your account has been compromised. I have filed a report at the vandalism noticeboard. -- Randykitty ( talk) 12:31, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
I checked and the changes were saved. It's strange, because the new visual editor didn't let me save those changes — Preceding unsigned comment added by HeroPsycho22 ( talk • contribs) 09:00, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
the $ went through ok in the end right ? sats 09:31, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, see Talk:John_Green_(author)#Protection_of_article_from_editing.3F. Cheers 222.165.10.84 ( talk) 16:04, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
[23] And thanks for your comments the other day. I hope you'll be able to stay with the conversation. EEng ( talk) 18:26, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi John-- back in 2010, you indefinitely semi-protected John Green (author) due to excessive vandalism. There's been some talk that we might consider lifting page protection here and here and the article has not experienced much in the way of vandalism over the past few years. I agree with that assessment, and think indefinite semi-protection is no longer strictly necessary. Would you consider scaling it back to pending changes or removing the protection altogether? I, JethroBT drop me a line 20:13, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
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Terima kasih atas message dari Pak John tentang AusAID. Actually, as a former staffer of AusAID, it strikes me that the page needs quite a lot of work. My main focus, however, is Wikipedia pages about Indonesia. In principle, there are lots of people who can work on the AusAID page. Salam, Peter Pmccawley ( talk) 21:01, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
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Could you lend a hand in resolving this? (And check out the following section re "OR" as well -- this guy's just flailing about.) EEng ( talk) 07:10, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
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Hi John, I am back on Wikipedia and was thinking on working over the break on my last article /info/en/?search=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Hasan_Mahmud But the first thing that I want to do is to have a proper URL for this like my other article /info/en/?search=Shanika_Karunasekera. THANKS JOHN, I got that from your message. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arifjubaer ( talk • contribs) 09:38, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
There is currently an RFC opened at the village pump to clarify current consensus and policies about the controversial pseudo-namespace redirects that you might want to participate in. TeleComNasSprVen ( talk • contribs) 23:53, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
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I was surprised to see a 2-1/2 month old, resolved situation come back to the forefront on my watchlist this morning ... all without discussion. I can't say I've ever seen you take an action like that, especially without additional discussion. As I don't like to raise ANI's against anyone, especially fellow admins without discussing first, I'm leaving you this message that I'm certain shows my surprise, disgust, and concern ... I'm watching here on this talkpage for more ES &L 12:29, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
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I just fixed a nowiki tag you had messed up on WP:VPP and added {{ Unsigned}} instead of your signature. TheOriginalSoni ( talk) 02:01, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
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John, thanks for the work on the NLM ID addition to Journal information boxes. - Rhett
Hi, John – On the surface it would be evident to anyone that I am "pro-PNR", as you say. Truth is, I could care less about PNRs, I'm just not particularly a deletionist – nor am I a much of a preservationist, either. In the work I do, I usually don't take the time to judge redirects, I just tag 'em and bag 'em. I've come across many that I thought maybe should be deleted, but my philosophy is that if they're correctly sorted into the proper cats, then someone, perhaps you, John, will notice them and list them at RFD. Let me tell you what I really am as regards pro- this or pro- that. I am pro-consensus. If the present discussion or any "chat" gathers enough support to seriously challenge the longstanding community consensus that exists as regards PNRs, and that results in a new community consensus that is no longer in favor of protecting or keeping PNRs, then I'll list the little bogeys myself – that's where I really stand, that's my "position". Joys! – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 20:36, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
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Comparison of data structures doesn't lead to where it says it leads to. The Transhumanist 20:39, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
I did integrate the note and cited it... I actually added two notes by splitting it up in the process of removing that one larger note. I made a much more detailed talk page post. So I don't think I was "removing" it so much as expanding and integrating and presenting even more information in the process. I'd like it replaced, but I have it sandboxed just in case. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 19:21, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your note on the redirect for Globalization category tree. I do not mind if the redirect is deleted. Let me look at what all needs to be done to compensate. Thanks again! Meclee ( talk) 19:46, 10 January 2014 (UTC) Everthing looks OK. Thanks again. Meclee ( talk) 19:51, 10 January 2014 (UTC) |
You commented at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 December 25#Silcone Valley. That discussion was closed with consensus to retarget the Silicone Valley redirect to Silicon Valley. Your opinion would now be welcome about whether Silcon Valley should have a hatnote pointing to San Fernando Valley#Adult ednterainment, the former target of the redirect and only other notable meaning of the term. Please comment at Talk:Silicon Valley#Hatnote, thanks. Thryduulf ( talk) 23:53, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Hey John. Having now spent a bunch of time reading through the interminable history of all this, it seems like a lot of the discussions involve the discovery and summation of other discussions. Would you be up for helping me compile some kind of definitive list cum timeline to assist in trying to move the issue forward? Cheers, — Scott • talk 13:49, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Um, hey, thanks for fixing a link that a vandal left on my talk page here. I guess? Just kidding, I'm guessing you were using a script or something -- I just thought it was funny (and I'm sure the IP, wherever they are, appreciates it as well!). SQGibbon ( talk) 02:51, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
what is going on with the toodyay material? a please explain this is. satusuro 05:11, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
Deleted now as CSD G6, but I'd not have objected to R2 either ;-) Lankiveil ( speak to me) 12:29, 16 January 2014 (UTC).
As I mentioned before, you very seriously need to review WP:BROKE. I applaud your desire to fix actual problems. Leaving a red link for all of these pages because you feel pangs of OCD is not an actual improvement.
If you very much dislike the present situation, you can create a stub article for Second Lincoln Administration that includes the presently-linked template. You don't need to bother other editors to do so, and (while the notices are very kind of you and huzzah) it would take less time to make that stub than to come to my page and asking me to do it for you. Best of luck, — LlywelynII 05:50, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello! Please advise me what to do about things like this. I just can't stand it anymore and am considering to quit English WP alltogether. Specifcally I should note that you never miss an opportunity to highlight that someone is not a native speaker of English, which, frankly, borders on personal attack, where the never miss an opportunity part is so insulting and cruel and unfait that is makes me feel physically sick, and where the accusation of personal attack re: English is beyond my comprehension. It's been going on for a long time now, with that user. Would you please give me some constructive advice that might make me behave and/or feel better? -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 06:42, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi John You deleted the page "Ararat" Center for Strategic Research. Please restore that page I am working on it, to make it more coherent and informative . There was New Year holidays, I was out, now I returned. As I mentioned in talk , there is no any difficulty to prove that "Ararat" Center is a notorious page and must be restored. Matenagir ( talk) 08:38, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
I had no involvement whatsoever in that discussion. Don't ask me ever again.-- Valkyrie Red ( talk) 02:49, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
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I don't think I screwed anything up, but it appears I was able to fix the script error generated by {{pagelinks|}}. the other way to fix it was to modify {{ pagelinks}} to use {{#if:{{{1|}}}|{{{1}}}|Example}} instead of {{{1|Example}}}, but it seemed like a better idea to have the module not generate a script error (but instead a more useful error message) in the case that 'page' is blank. Frietjes ( talk) 15:05, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Tanzania's first President referred to Tabora School as being "as close to Eton as you can get in Africa." Source: Paragraph 4, page 52. Ali Fazal ( talk) 21:20, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
I am trying to get some reviewers for Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Australia women's national wheelchair basketball team at the 2012 Summer Paralympics/archive2. It had an earlier nomination but failed for lack of reviewers. If you could take a few minutes to post even a short review, it would be much appreciated. Hawkeye7 ( talk) 10:54, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
If there's ever anything I can do to help with that, let me know. -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 03:14, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for putting Australian Renewable Energy Agency through - I'll see about getting some attention for it on relevant WikiProjects, to improve it further. -- Chriswaterguy talk 02:22, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
Any chance of eyes on this? It needs more than just two editors disagreeing. hamiltonstone ( talk) 03:21, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for cleaning up the mess I left in Redirects for Discussion. I was trying to fix the problem myself, but you beat me to it. That's my first and last time trying to enter a citation onto a Twinkle form. :) Peter Chastain [habla, por favor] 17:27, 10 April 2014 (UTC)