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Someonewhoisusinginternet (
talk) 06:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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Daniel Case (
talk) 19:33, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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I did. You edit warred. Your conduct in general is concerning as well. 331dot ( talk) 20:15, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment from blocking admin: If a reviewer does not find
my lengthy comments at ANEW on this user sufficiently dispositive (and I mean that in more than one sense, obviously) of this request, they are invited to take Master's request up and look through their contribs history. Or just
this particular talk page discussion regarding the instant issue behind the block.
Master makes of themselves not just a poster child, but an entire gallery exhibition, of the characteristics of hardened edit warriors: tendentiousness, hairsplitting "logic", and total obliviousness to consensus where they are a minority of one.
To this they have now added the usual spurious logic (implied, it would seem) that as long as they didn't violate 3RR they were OK. But, as WP:EW quite clearly says, edit warring can be blockable even in situations where 3RR is not violated, and having been previously blocked twice for ... edit warring (neither block summary mentions 3RR), Master cannot seriously claim to be unaware of this. Daniel Case ( talk) 20:12, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Block endorsed. It's absolutely insane to me that they've continued this dispute on for another half year after I tried I gave up trying to mediate it. Horrible waste of everyone's time, Master106 included.
Sergecross73
msg me 20:23, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- I tried for all this time to reach some kind of consensus with Yuugone/Ajeeb Praani/Someonewhoisusingtheinternet. Also 1 against 1 is not
WP:1AM. The other person changed their name 3 times by the way. The only other person to say something on the original debate was the user the thread was originally about, and they were on my side. But this is a different debate entirely, I am just trying to reach a consensus to improve the article because it was pointed out to me by a guy from Dispute Resolution that the whole thing was arbitrary so, my idea was to make the page less arbitrary. So I thought maybe it could be edited so that it reflects the series instead. I made the edit, Yuugone/Ajeeb Praani/Someonewhoisusingtheinternet reverted. I made the change they wanted. He reverted again, we went to talk. Came up with changes. I made the changes. He reverted again. A week later, we went to talk. I made changes, he reverted. I finally made a revert asking him to come up with changes.
Master106 (
talk) 20:35, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Almost your entire time here has been spent on excessive arguing over trivial details that don't matter much. And what do you have to show for it? Three blocks for edit warring. If you don't change your ways, the fourth one will almost certainly be indefinite in length. You're probably lucky this one wasn't. You need to learn how to let go if you're going to work on a collaborative project like Wikipedia.
Sergecross73
msg me 20:51, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Let go and let the page be arbitrary or wrong? I did let go by the way, the debate is not about characters being protagonists anymore. It is about making the page look better and less arbitrary and wrong. That is all I wanted. I have been trying to collaborate. Maybe you should tell that to Yuugone/Ajeeb Praani/Someonewhoisusingtheinternet too honestly.
Master106 (
talk) 20:58, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- "I've learned to let go and I'm still getting blocked" is...not the great comeback you'd like it to be. And yes, the other editor has two blocks for edit warring themselves. But that's not a defense against your block. All it means is that you're both headed for indefinite blocks if you don't change your WP:IDHT approach. Sergecross73 msg me 21:26, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Let go and let the page be arbitrary or wrong? I did let go by the way, the debate is not about characters being protagonists anymore. It is about making the page look better and less arbitrary and wrong. That is all I wanted. I have been trying to collaborate. Maybe you should tell that to Yuugone/Ajeeb Praani/Someonewhoisusingtheinternet too honestly.
Master106 (
talk) 20:58, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Almost your entire time here has been spent on excessive arguing over trivial details that don't matter much. And what do you have to show for it? Three blocks for edit warring. If you don't change your ways, the fourth one will almost certainly be indefinite in length. You're probably lucky this one wasn't. You need to learn how to let go if you're going to work on a collaborative project like Wikipedia.
Sergecross73
msg me 20:51, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- I tried for all this time to reach some kind of consensus with Yuugone/Ajeeb Praani/Someonewhoisusingtheinternet. Also 1 against 1 is not
WP:1AM. The other person changed their name 3 times by the way. The only other person to say something on the original debate was the user the thread was originally about, and they were on my side. But this is a different debate entirely, I am just trying to reach a consensus to improve the article because it was pointed out to me by a guy from Dispute Resolution that the whole thing was arbitrary so, my idea was to make the page less arbitrary. So I thought maybe it could be edited so that it reflects the series instead. I made the edit, Yuugone/Ajeeb Praani/Someonewhoisusingtheinternet reverted. I made the change they wanted. He reverted again, we went to talk. Came up with changes. I made the changes. He reverted again. A week later, we went to talk. I made changes, he reverted. I finally made a revert asking him to come up with changes.
Master106 (
talk) 20:35, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Block endorsed. It's absolutely insane to me that they've continued this dispute on for another half year after I tried I gave up trying to mediate it. Horrible waste of everyone's time, Master106 included.
Sergecross73
msg me 20:23, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Comment from blocking admin: If a reviewer does not find
my lengthy comments at ANEW on this user sufficiently dispositive (and I mean that in more than one sense, obviously) of this request, they are invited to take Master's request up and look through their contribs history. Or just
this particular talk page discussion regarding the instant issue behind the block.
I would also like to clear up something Daniel Case said, he said "if you were right, you would have found a reliable source proving your point long ago". I did find multiple sources that claimed she was a protagonist right off the bat. And since I was looking for both terms, I found absolutely 0 sources that said she was a supporting character. The problem was Yuugone/Ajeeb Praani/Someonewhoisusingtheinternet was ignoring the sources I have found. They also had sources but none of their sources backed their claim, only relying on original research claims. I just felt like clearing that up. Master106 ( talk) 21:03, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
@ Someonewhoisusinginternet: I told you not to revert it to the arbitrary system and to sort it in a way you'd be happy about. Master106 ( talk) 16:15, 29 January 2024 (UTC)