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Could Fellow of the Royal Historical Society (FRHistS) please be added to Template:Post-nominals/CAN? Thanks, 142.161.81.20 ( talk) 18:37, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
The "PCc" option, indicating membership of the Queen's Privy Council of Canada, was added by User:DBD on 8 December 2013 with the postnominal "PC". This was changed to "PC (Can)" by User:JorisEnter on 6 March 2016, and changed back to "PC" by me on 9 April 2016. User:Ebonelm changed the postnominal to the even less likely "PCc" on 19 April 2017, I changed it back to "PC" again on 28 February with the comment postnominal for Canadian Privy Council is PC but User:Gaia Octavia Agrippa reverted me the same day saying Not when used in th UK: this is the GBR prost-nom template. This is to disambiguate between Canadian and UK privy councils.
I had been going to argue that non-existent postnominals should not be invented by Wikipedia and that it should be changed back to "PC", but having looked at it a bit more, I don't think this option even needs to exist at all. Obviously the vast majority of memebers of the Canadian Privy Council have been Canadian, and their articles use Template:Post-nominals which was set up with Canadian postnominals (and hence "PC" for the Canadian Privy Council) as the default. As far as I can tell, the only Britons appointed to the Canadian Privy Council, and whose articles would use this template, have been: the Prince of Wales, later Duke of Windsor (1927); Stanley Baldwin (1927); Ramsay MacDonald (1929); Winston Churchill (1941); Lord Alexander of Tunis (1952); the Duke of Edinburgh (1957); and the current Prince of Wales (2014). Of these, the Royals have so many postnominals that they are not used on Wikipedia articles. Baldwin and MacDonald's articles do not use the "PC" postnominal at all. Alexander's article did have the "PCc" until it was removed by User:Necrothesp on 30 November 2017 as this was not an abbreviation used. So the only article currently using "PCc" is Churchill's. I have done a bit of searching and it is difficult enough to find examples of the "PC" postnominal used to denote any of these men's membership of the UK Privy Council, let alone a separate one for the Canadian Privy Council that would require disambiguation.
The official account of Edward VII's coronation ( "No. 27489". The London Gazette (Supplement). 29 October 1902. p. 6883.) lists Lord Strathcona, who had been appointed to the Canadian Privy Council in 1896, as "GCMG" only, while his peers who were UK Privy Councillors have "P.C." in brackets. It would seem that membership of the Canadian Privy Council confers no postnominal letters in UK usage. There is no need for this option on the template. Opera hat ( talk) 17:46, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
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Could someone add the following to the template please?
Pdfpdf (
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| FAHMS = [[Fellow of the Australian Academy of Health and Medical Sciences|FAHMS]]
| FAHA = [[Fellow of the Australian Academy of the Humanities|FAHA]] and
| FAICD = [[Fellow of the Australian Institute of Company Directors|FAICD]]
| FAHMS, = [[Fellow of the Australian Academy of Health and Medical Sciences|FAHMS]], between
| FAHA, = [[Fellow of the Australian Academy of the Humanities|FAHA]], and
| FAICD, = [[Fellow of the Australian Institute of Company Directors|FAICD]],
On MacDonald P. Jackson I ran across the post-nominal FNZAH, which I speculate to be a Fellow of the New Zealand Academy of the Humanities. However I am unable to find a reliable cite for either. If anyone more knowledgable could look into it and perhaps update the template, I would appreciate it. -- Xover ( talk) 17:56, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
Why is such an obscure template locked for editing? Please add:
| FRAIA = [[Fellow of the Royal Australian Institute of Architects|FRAIA]]
Sources are plentiful. [1]
—Мандичка YO 😜 06:06, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
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Would Fellow of the Royal Incorporation of Architects in Scotland (FRIAS) be able to be added to Template:Post-nominals/GBR? Thanks, 142.160.89.97 ( talk) 05:47, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Using a plain number for the value of font-size does nothing and is invalid CSS. The only values accepted are percentages or measures of font size such as em or px. Here's the proof for Gaia Octavia Agrippa who doesn't believe that:
{{post-nominals|size=50|PC|CC|OBE}}
→
PC
CC
OBE{{post-nominals|size=150|PC|CC|OBE}}
→
PC
CC
OBE{{post-nominals|size=50%|PC|CC|OBE}}
→
PC
CC
OBE{{post-nominals|size=150%|PC|CC|OBE}}
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PC
CC
OBEYou might as well write size=1
as size=100
because it yields exactly the same effect. We should not be writing invalid values into our documentation, so I've restored the correct values. --
RexxS (
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|size=90
doesn't work. We should not be misleading our editors and we should not be writing invalid values into our documentation. --
RexxS (
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style="font-size:{{#if:{{{size|}}}|100%|85%}};"
in the first line. Then any use of the size parameter would set 100% and its absence would set 85%, but you should then alter the documentation to explain that to editors who want to use the template. --
RexxS (
talk) 18:52, 7 September 2018 (UTC)I have opened an RfC as to whether we should keep the post-nominals template listing them at 85% text size or increase to 100%. See Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography#Request for comment: Size of post-nominals. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 16:37, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
Is it possible for the template to detect that it's in an infobox and apply size=100%
automatically? —
Stanning (
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style="..."
attributes, and instead do it with classes and style sheets. So where we currently have <span class="noexcerpt" style="font-size:{{{size|85%}}};">
we could have something like <span class="noexcerpt postnom" {{#if:{{{size|}}}|style="font-size:{{{size}}};"}}>
Then, we would write a CSS rule that has a selector along the lines of "if a span element belongs to the postnom class, set font-size:85% unless it is enclosed by another element (at any depth) that belongs to the infobox class". The style=
attribute is now conditional, and allows for parameters like |size=110%
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Redrose64 🌹 (
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|size=
to be specified where needed, and you should be able to clean up this template considerably while increasing its functionality.Please see: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography#Side matter: commas between post-nominal abbreviations – Gist: Is "OFM Cap FSA Scot FRHistS" five post-nominals, or three? (Hint: it's three.) — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 13:31, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
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OLY needs to link to OLY and not olympic compeitior as the idea was created by the WOA and is awarded by this organisation. It is not given just for competing in Olympic competition, as one can be denied if they cheat etc. Please see article for more details and linked references. 213.205.194.115 ( talk) 18:03, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
I wonder
Talk about confusing ( talk) 03:12, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Dear @ Gaia Octavia Agrippa: It seems that many doctors in the UK for the first half of the 20th century certainly (roughly), who had steller careers were awarded Honarary LLD's, e.g. William Fletcher Shaw near or at the end of their careers. Munks Roll - Lives of the Fellows is a biographical aggregator that is run by the Royal College of Physicians since 1518 tends to report them at the top of their articles, e.g. [3]] that would tend to indicate that they are considered valuable and of equal weight to e.g. FCOG or FRCP. Plarr's Lives of the Fellows has a similiar format, indicating they hold them in equal weight. How do I support it in the article post-noms. scope_creep Talk 12:11, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
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In template:Post-nominals/CAN, the following territorial post-nominals need to be added/are missing:
So the template should be edited with:
| ONu = [[Order of Nunavut|ONu]]
| ONWT = [[Order of the Northwest Territories|ONWT]]
| OY = [[Order of Yukon|OY]]
Green
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Could Fellow of the Geological Society (FGS) be added to the Canadian subpage? It was once common for Canadians to be appointed to the Geological Society of London. Thanks, 142.160.89.97 ( talk) 05:25, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
I'm trying to respond to a query sent in to Wikimedia ticket:2018100310001904
The honorific suffix "CitWA" doesn't show up in Peter Klinken, presumably because it is not in this table.
The suffix is discussed here: Western Australian of the Year Awards
I'm personally uncomfortable adding it without finding a reliable source for the relevant sentence: Award recipients may choose to use the post-nominal CitWa after their name.
If I can get someone to track that down is there any reason why it should not be added to this list?
If it is acceptable to add to the list, I can try but my template editing is rusty so if someone else is willing to help out, I will thank you in advance.-- S Philbrick (Talk) 15:54, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
Did someone make this automated so using the post-nom script automatically puts in categories? This is no good. Durban Light Infantry is categorized as being a Knights in nine orders and this cannot be removed. It was somehow activated with this edit related to the table. It has to be the post-nom script. Any idea? —Мандичка YO 😜 03:14, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
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Could Fellow of the Canadian Academy of Health Sciences (FCAH) be added to the Canadian subpage? Thanks. -- 10:27, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
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Could FRNCM for Fellows of the Royal Northern College of Music be added? Thanks, 142.161.83.66 ( talk) 03:40, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
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Could Fellow of the Royal Historical Society (FRHistS) be added to the Canadian subpage? Thanks, 142.161.83.66 ( talk) 06:30, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
I refer to the previous archived discussions. Perhaps instead we could use more modern CSS, so instead of using
style="font-size:{{{size|85%}}};"
we could instead have a "small" parameter (on by default) and have:
{{if {{{small}}}| style="font-variant: small-caps;"|}}
Just a thought. — Jon ( talk) 01:48, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
<span style="font-variant: normal ; ">OBE</span>
→ OBE<span style="font-variant:small-caps">OBE</span>
→ OBE<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Obe</span>
→ Obe<span style="font-variant:small-caps">obe</span>
→ obeAll sources I can find, and List of post-nominal letters (United Kingdom), suggest that FRCSEd is used rather than FRCSE for fellowship of the Royal College of Surgeons of Edinburgh. Please can this be added to the list, perhaps as an alternative so as not to upset existing uses of FRCSE? (And there are a bunch of other Edinburgh medical titles to which this applies - see List_of_post-nominal_letters_(United_Kingdom)#Medical_qualifications. Perhaps I can try just WP:BOLDly adding this version... will have a go. Pam D 17:48, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Politics_of_the_United_Kingdom concern has been raised that all MPs should be removed during dissolution. I have an alternative suggestion—modify the template for this purpose.
The lines to modify are: (MPp is not but I just put it here for easy cross check)
| MP = MP | MPe = MP | MPi = MP | MPni = MP | MPs = MP | MPp = MP | MPw = MP
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[[Member of the British House of Commons|MP]]
whenever a GE is underway{{#if:{{Template:Post-nominals/GBR/GE}}||[[Member of the British House of Commons|MP]]}}
Template:Post-nominals/GBR/GE would be the page to control the template. Writing anything = purdah = MP hidden. Blank page = in session = MP shown.| MP = [[Member of the British House of Commons|MP]]
| MP|MPe|MPi|MPni|MPs|MPw = {{#switch:{{{incumbent|}}}
|yes|y={{#if:{{Template:Post-nominals/GBR/GE}}||[[Member of the British House of Commons|MP]]}}
|default=[[Member of the British House of Commons|MP]]}}
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Could Fellow of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland (FRAS) be added to the British subpage? Thanks, 142.160.131.220 ( talk) 23:36, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
{{
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template. This is a highly-visible template and thus, I would argue consensus is required before a change is made.
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Please add Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (FIEEE). Thank you. —Мандичка YO 😜 19:00, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
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Alice Creswick was made DStJ, but it appears that we don't have this in Template:Post-nominals/AUS. Can this please be added? - Chris.sherlock ( talk) 18:14, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
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Hey guys, the template doesn’t appear to pick up FRSA for Australians. Do we know why? - Chris.sherlock ( talk) 17:30, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
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Need to add designations from Royal Scottish Academy#Academicians:
|ARSA = [[Associate Royal Scottish Academician|ARSA]] |HRSA = [[Honorary Royal Scottish Academician|HRSA]] |PPRSA = [[Past President of the Royal Scottish Academy|PPRSA]]
Thanks. -- Netoholic @ 09:30, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
It looks like all the Order of Australia pages were merged into one Order of Australia page. With this, would it be possible to have someone change the links for AC AO, AM, and OAM to go to Order of Australia? ItsPugle ( talk) 12:16, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello! I'm not sure what goes into making these templates, I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on incorporating American professional designations into this format. Mbdfar ( talk) 03:39, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
I was wondering (
here) why
Module:Template invocation is used in so many articles. It turns out that previewing an edit of a sandbox which contains nothing but {{postnominals}}
shows the module under "Templates used in this preview". Why is that?
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Inconsistent presence of Associateships of Imperial College London, the following does exist:
|ARCS = [[Associate of the Royal College of Science|ARCS]]
but the other three do not:
|ACGI = [[ACGI]] <!-- Associate of the City and Guilds of London Institute --> |AICSM = [[Imperial College School of Medicine|AICSM]] |ARSM = [[Associate of the Royal School of Mines|ARSM]]
These are all officially recognised post-nominals, and date back to degrees awarded by the pre-university Royal Colleges. However, they are rarely used these days as with other degrees. However, they can be quite frequently found on alumni from before the admission of the college into the University of London, so might still have use for historical articles. Either way, the inconsistency makes no sense, remove ARCS or add them all, they're all equivalent in status. Shadowssettle( talk) 11:12, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
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On the CD line, change the link from Canadian Forces Decoration|CD to Canadian Forces' Decoration|CD — Blairall ( talk) 23:56, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Can 'FRGSQ' please be added? Nford24 ( PE121 Personnel Request Form) 04:12, 17 July 2020 (UTC) Also, can 'FRGSA' be added - Fellow of the Royal Geographical Society of Australasia. Nford24 ( PE121 Personnel Request Form) 04:36, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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Add the following, they are all in reference to Queensland.
Thanks. Nford24 ( PE121 Personnel Request Form) 04:18, 20 July 2020 (UTC) Nford24 ( PE121 Personnel Request Form) 04:18, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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Primefac (
talk) 02:04, 2 August 2020 (UTC)The way this template is being used is just terrible and should be discussed in MOS. People have started adding it right after the person's name, and before the pronunciation part, so we have in Andre Geim "Sir Andre Konstantinovich Geim FRS, HonFRSC, HonFInstP (Russian: Андре́й Константи́нович Гейм; born 21 October 1958) is a Russian-born...", and on google "Sir Andre Konstantinovich Geim FRS, HonFRSC, HonFInstP is a Russian-born...". Look at this one James Dyson "Sir James Dyson OM CBE RDI FRS FREng FCSD FIEE (born 2 May 1947)...". Do these acronyms mean anything to anyone, or do you need to click on them to find out what they mean? This is polluting every single article on the members of the Royal Society now ( Fellow of the Royal Society), and who knows what else. @ Jorge Stolfi: I liked your reasoning on why not to use sidebars in the lede, what do you think of this? What's the best place to discuss this? Ponor ( talk) 13:36, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
I notice that not all items listed for Fellowship are reflected in similar listing for Membership, even though both may be valid and widely-used post-nominals. A specific case - FInstP is here, for Fellow of the Institute of Physics, but MInstP, for the related Member grade (still a very real qualifier on a name) is missing. Can this be addressed? Thanks, SeoR ( talk) 12:04, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
I can't seem to get {{post-nominals|country=AUS|FRAIA}} to work - what am I doing wrong?
Also (related to the section above), not sure whether needed or not, but the RAIA only started in 1929, and the last state-based architectural institutes only joined up in 1968. Don't we need one for each state, for use with earlier architects?
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Add: | MM* = MM Atchom ( talk) 02:36, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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In template:Post-nominals/CAN, the following municipal post-nominals need to be added/are missing:
So the template should be edited with:
| COM = [[Order of Montreal|COM]]
| OOM = [[Order of Montreal|OOM]]
| ChOM = [[Order of Montreal|ChOM]]
Evidence of the post-noms can be seen here: https://ville.montreal.qc.ca/ordre/en/about
Green Runner 0 21:47, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
COM
and OOM
are already used for the
Order of Merit of the Police Forces
* Pppery *
it has begun... 17:29, 24 May 2021 (UTC)Template:Post-nominals/GBR includes a set of postnoms which I don't recognise: MPe, MPi, MPni, MPs, MPw.
I can infer what they mean (MPe="Member of the Parliament of England" etc), but I dont recall seeing those abbreviations in use anywhere on en.wp or in other documents.
They are problematic in that they all link to [[Member of the British House of Commons|MP]], which is wrong in possibly every case. The MPe postnom for Parliament of England is possibly correct as a de facto earlier incarnation of the UK Parliament, but the other four are clearly wrong.
So I created some tracking categories ( Category:Post-nominals/GBR: MPe etc, all cross-linked), but 72 hours after I edited the template, nothing has shown up. (Note: I screwed up my initial edit [4] by creating links to the categories, and have now fixed that [5] ... but any use would have created backlinks, of which there are none. So despite my error I got an answer).
So I propose to remove all 5 postnoms: MPe, MPi, MPni, MPs, MPw ... without prejudice to re-creating any of them for which there is later a relevant article to link to. Any thoughts? -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 23:19, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Per the discussion above, I have entirely removed from {{ Post-nominals/GBR}} and {{ Post-nominals/GBR-cats}} the entries for MPe, MPi, MPni, MPs and MPw.
I have also removed from {{ Post-nominals/GBR-cats}} the categories for MP. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 15:00, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Please add OMI. ( Missionary Oblates of Mary Immaculate) It is a Roman Catholic designation used worldwide (including 60 or so countries with missions). Ex: https://www.alberta.ca/aoe-abbreviations-and-post-nominals.aspx#jumplinks-13 and some use in context: https://omi.com.au/oblates-in-australia. ·¤:•.°windjade.☼°.¤: 18:27, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
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Add NTF = NTF Maths11 ( talk) 17:30, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
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Please add the postnominal FAAL:
| FAAL = [[Australian Academy of Law|FAAL]]
Thank you 203.221.57.154 ( talk) 10:56, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
If the post-nominals are preceded by a comma, the comma shows up in the article preview, where it can mess up the grammar since the post-nominals themselves are hidden. Is there any way to fix this?
For example, the preview for Winston Churchill:
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill, was ...
from the article text:
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill, KG, OM, CH, TD, DL, FRS, RA (30 November 1874 – 24 January 1965) was ...
If another comma comes after, the preview will show two commas where there should be one. For example, the preview for H. H. Asquith:
Herbert Henry Asquith, 1st Earl of Oxford and Asquith,, generally known as H. H. Asquith, was ...
from the article text:
Herbert Henry Asquith, 1st Earl of Oxford and Asquith, KG, PC, KC, FRS (12 September 1852 – 15 February 1928), generally known as H. H. Asquith, was ...
Maybe we could add a parameter to this template to add a leading comma and space, so that Jane Smith{{post-nominals|size=100%|commas=on|leading-comma=on|PC|CC|OBE}}
produces: Jane Smith,
PC,
CC,
OBE
It looks like,
under the hood, text is excluded from the article preview with the noexcerpt
HTML class.
—
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Please, change ‘Honorary Fellow of the Institute of Physics’ to ‘Honorary Fellows of the Institute of Physics’ to match the style of the RSC list. I have created the article with the list of awardees. Thanks, e • 🗣 • 🏲 10:48, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
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Could Fellow of the Royal School of Church Music (FRSCM) please be added to Template:Post-nominals/GBR? Thanks, 207.161.86.162 ( talk) 03:02, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello, @ Paine Ellsworth, I'd like to ask for Queen's Volunteer Reserves Medal to be added as post nominal -> QVRM. Coldstreamer20 ( talk) 16:08, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
May I request that Churchill Fellow CF be added as post nominal. The Queen granted permission for this in 2019. CF in the Template currently directs to Order of Fiji, redirecting from Companion of The Order of Fiji. I think I am right to say that would apply to UK, Australia and New Zealand Jacksoncowes ( talk) 12:40, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
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Add:
| MSP = [[Member of the Scottish Parliament|MSP]]
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Add:
I refer to my request of 29 December 2021. In 2019 The Queen granted permission for Churchill Fellows to use the post-nominal honorific CF. This permission applied to awards granted by the Winston Churchill Memorial Trusts of the UK, Australia and New Zealand. The post-nominal list for New Zealand includes the 'CF' honorific for Churchill Fellows. In the list for Australia (AUS) it does not exist and in the UK (GBR) list 'CF' refers to Companions of the Order of Fiji.
[1] [2] Jacksoncowes ( talk) 20:13, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
References
On completion of their Churchill Fellowships, recipients are entitled to use the post-nominals CF after their name in recognition of their status as a Churchill Fellow.
Is it possible to add PLY into this template? The PLY post-nominal was recently created by the IPC in a similar manner of use as the OLY post-nominal created by the IOC a couple years ago. The OLY post-nominal is already a part of the template and is used in pages like the current IOC president Thomas Bach. - bold blazer 02:15, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
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Please Add "| ECA = [[Executive Council of Alberta|ECA]]" to the Canadian list of post-nominals.
This was introduced with Alberta's Bill 1, which received royal assent on Mar 24. All members and (living) former members of the Executive Council now have these letters. It's analogous to "PC" at the federal level. Indefatigable ( talk) 00:13, 2 April 2022 (UTC).
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Could Fellow of the Library Association (FLA) please be added to the British subpage? Thanks, Graham ( talk) 05:05, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
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I'd like to request the following changes to Template:Post-nominals/CAN
-Btss subtitle change from #Baronetesses to #Baronetess -Removal of extra spaces after C.F.A. -Addition of 'A de C' (with spaces) for Aide-de-Camp to the governor general and lieutenant governors, 'ECNS' for members of the Executive Council of Nova Scotia, 'OH' for the Order of Hamilton, 'QHN' (Queen's Honorary Nurse; a variant of QHNS), and 'QPO'. | A de C = [[Aide-de-camp#Canada|A de C]] | ECNS = [[Executive Council of Nova Scotia|ECNS]] | OH = [[Order of Hamilton|OH]] | QHN = [[Medical Household|QHN]] | QPO = [[Monarchy of Canada#Federal residences and royal household|QPO]]
2605:B100:102:970A:784B:8BDD:DF34:A93A ( talk) 12:12, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
As one can no longer add these themselves, I would like to request the addition of HonMLS, HonFLS, FMLS, FFLS, PLS and ALS, to be linked to Linnean Society of London#Membership. I am looking to add these to the articles of the respective individuals (where they exist), certainly for the first three - which numbers ~60 fl. UaMaol ( talk) 21:20, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
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Please add AdE awarded in Quebec and CS awarded in Ontario:
| AdE = [[Bar of Quebec|AdE]] | Ad.E. = [[Bar of Quebec|Ad.E.]] | CS = [[Law Society of Ontario|CS]] | C.S. = [[Law Society of Ontario|C.S.]]
2605:B100:111:23BA:90A9:E95A:BA2E:4AB5 ( talk) 03:42, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
It seems prudent to remove the list
unlinked
and post-noms
parameters entirely, primarily to combat embellishment in the form of non-existent post-nominal letters. Case in point: just now I removed the imaginary "RON" (
Order of Orange-Nassau) post-nominals from some 26 articles, all of which utilized this template with the aforementioned parameters. Removing the ability to use this template to create custom post-nominals ensures better quality control (though it won't prevent editors from simply circumventing this template, of course). It also means that requests for the inclusion of additional post-nominal letters will also have to go through these talk pages, which makes it easier to scrutinize them.
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To improve upon my earlier suggestion of removing customized linking parameters entirely, I suggest we track pages using these parameters instead:
{{#if:{{{unlinked|{{{list|{{{post-noms|}}}}}}}}}|[[Category:Pages using Template:Post-nominals with customized linking]]}}
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Canadians can be members of the fellowship and thus add the FLS honorific. Right now FLS can only be used for country=GBR
.
One example would be Nancy Turner (Bio: https://www.uvic.ca/socialsciences/environmental/people/faculty/emeritus/turnernancy.php) — Preceding unsigned comment added by F3ndot ( talk • contribs) 06:08, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
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Description of suggested change: Changing the links from "Queen" to "King" following Elizabeth II's passing to avoid redirects.
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LilianaUwU ( talk / contribs) 00:30, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
How should multiple instances of same award be handled ? GraemeLeggett ( talk) 10:13, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
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I’d like to request the addition of the following missing post-nominals used in Canada: FRCMT, OMI, PLY, FLS
| FRCMT = [[The Royal Conservatory of Music|FRCMT]] | FRCMT(hon) = [[The Royal Conservatory of Music|FRCMT(''hon'')]] | FLS = [[Linnean Society of London#Membership|FLS]] | HonFLS = [[Linnean Society of London#Membership|HonFLS]] | OMI = [[Missionary Oblates of Mary Immaculate|OMI]] | PLY = [[Paralympic symbols#Post-nominal|PLY]]
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Hello, I would like to request that for Template:Post-nominals/AUS (and perhaps any other commonwealth nation's post nominal template) that the two instances of:
| QC = [[Queen's Counsel|QC]]
be changed to:
| QC = [[King's Counsel|KC]]
because the two post-nominals are mutually exclusive and ever since the Queen's passing, all QCs are now KCs. [1]
- Yours Faithfully, GA Melbourne ( T | C ) 11:46, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
References
It is necessary to add the post-nominal of KC (Hon) (counterpart of QC (Hon)) for the UK (and other relevant commonwealth countries) following the Queen's death. I propose the following in line with existing templates for QC (Hon):
| KC(Hon) = [[King's Counsel Honoris Causa|KC (Hon)]] | KC (Hon.) = [[King's Counsel Honoris Causa|KC (Hon.)]]
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Post-nominals need to be added for the King versions of the honorary medical appointments.
Current post-noms (to keep):
| QHDS = [[Honorary Dental Surgeon to The Queen|QHDS]] | QHNS = [[Honorary Nursing Sister to The Queen|QHNS]] | QHP = [[Honorary Physician to The Queen|QHP]] | QHS = [[Honorary Surgeon to The Queen|QHS]]
New post-noms to add:
| KHDS = [[Honorary Dental Surgeon to The King|KHDS]] | KHNS = [[Honorary Nursing Sister to The King|KHNS]] | KHP = [[Honorary Physician to The King|KHP]] | KHS = [[Honorary Surgeon to The King|KHS]]
Please, Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 15:30, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
| KHS = [[Knight of the Holy Sepulchre|KHS]]
would work (m being for medical) but m could also be for "military" (as in the Military Order of the Holy Sepulchre) or for medieval. So perhaps it's best to move the current KHS to| KHSm = [[Honorary Surgeon to The King|KHS]]
(as in c for Catholic). Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 23:56, 21 November 2022 (UTC)| KHSc = [[Knight of the Holy Sepulchre|KHS]]
|answered=no
when this has all been reconciled.
P.I. Ellsworth ,
ed.
put'r there 06:27, 24 November 2022 (UTC)The Royal Society of Victoria began electing Fellows in 1995. It would be helpful to have their post-nom FRSV added. Oronsay ( talk) 02:18, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
I don't know where-else to say this.
I look at The Gazette ( https://thegazette.co.uk/awards-and-accreditation/content/103372).
Only GBE, KBE, DBE can have the title Sir or Dame
I see plenty of instances where a CBE has a title, for instance Alan Parker CBE, but should not one. 49.147.195.186 ( talk) 00:29, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Could FCILT (Fellow of the Chartered Institute of Logistics and Transport) be added. Wanted for Adrian Shooter (1948‒2022). — Sladen ( talk) 12:15, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
I was just looking at Robert Madgwick who has a Knight Bachelor under the previous system but Kt is not supported by the AUS template. Gusfriend ( talk) 06:31, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Has any thought been given to having the template automatically add an article to the corresponding category for each award that has one defined? So, for example, {{post-nominals|country=AUS|AC}}
would result in the article being placed in
Category:Companions of the Order of Australia. Worth the effort? —
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|nocat=
option to suppress for situations where it is not used in a biography article for the person. —
Archer1234 (
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|nocat=
option, unless we have an easy way to track it ongoing, we might see a slow creep of mis-categorization of articles. That might be enough of an issue to militate against this. —
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For the post-nominals CD and C.D., the link for "Canadian Forces Decoration" has changed to Canadian Forces' Decoration with an apostrophe, so that needs to be changed here.
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− | Canadian | + | Canadian Forces' Decoration |
-- Blairall ( talk) 00:48, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
|country=
set to GBR), but I do not have the right permissions to make that change. So, need some help with this one.There doesn't seem to be any explanation for the "cats" data templates, so could someone please add one? I had to search through the archives to find
what seems to be the explanation: articles using post-nominals with "cats" are automatically added to the categories for each post-nominal.
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'Kt' Should really be removed, It's not an official post nominal [13], and even the Society of Knights Bachelor have removed the 'Kt' reference entirely from it's website [14]. Nford24 ( PE121 Personnel Request Form) 06:13, 5 January 2023 (UTC) Nford24 ( PE121 Personnel Request Form) 06:13, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
The Honourable Sir William Vincent, Kt., K.C.S.I.and
The Honourable Sir William Vincent, Kt., K.C.S.I.. From 1930: Henry Gollan referred to as
Sir H. C. Gollan, Kt., C.B.E., K.C.. From 2004:
The number of men with the post-nominal letters: "Kt, CBE" exceeds those who are simply "KBE" (because their KBE has subsumed their CBE).2016: Nicholas Stern, Baron Stern of Brentford is referred to as
Lord Stern of Brentford, Kt, PBA, FRS. Just a few examples to show it is not made up, Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 13:20, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
Be that as it may, the British Government has also made it clear (original request citation) that the award carries no post nominals, if and since it’s not officially sanctioned and arguably never has been, then my opinion is that it should it be used. Nford24 ( PE121 Personnel Request Form) 15:20, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
I feel like for the most part more agree than not, and facts of its illegitimacy means it should be removed from all post nominal templates immediately. I agree that it can be kept on Diarmaid MacCulloch, added separately as a super rare scenario and I won’t remove it. Nford24 ( PE121 Personnel Request Form) 16:39, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Not done for now I have disabled the request because I am not sure what the conclusion of the discussion or if there is consensus for this change or not — Martin (
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It’s literally fake nonsense, with references to prove It. what more do you want? I give up. Nford24 ( PE121 Personnel Request Form) 23:39, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
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Please add the following missing post-nominals to the post-nominals/CAN template:
| EV = [[Episcopal Vicar|EV]] | CSM = [[Meritorious Service Cross|CSM]] (used in French) | KHC = [[Honorary Chaplain to the King|KHC]] | KHDS = [[Monarchy of Canada#Federal residences and royal household|KHDS]] | KPM = [[King's Police Medal|KPM]] | KHN = [[Medical Household|KHN]] | KHNS = [[Medical Household|KHNS]] | KPO = [[Monarchy of Canada#Federal residences and royal household|KPO]] | KHP = [[Monarchy of Canada#Federal residences and royal household|KHP]] | KHS = [[Medical Household|KHS]]
– Handoto ( talk) 23:39, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
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Academicians of the Royal West of England Academy:
The RWA is one of five Royal Academies of Great Britain and Ireland. It is an independent body of up to 150 practicing artists, known as Academicians, who are elected by their peers.
New post-noms to add:
| RWA = [[Royal West of England Academy|RWA]] | PRWA = [[Royal West of England Academy|PRWA]] | PPRWA = [[Royal West of England Academy|PPRWA]] | VPRWA = [[Royal West of England Academy|VPRWA]] | HonRWA = [[Royal West of England Academy|HonRWA]]
Corresponding to the positions below (with abbreviated forms in brackets):
— Preceding unsigned comment added by ArtDataArt ( talk • contribs) 14:13, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
| ARWA = [[Royal West of England Academy|ARWA]]
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Description of suggested change: Please add MCIfA, Member of the Chartered Institute for Archaeologists. Currently needed in the article Chloë Duckworth, but could also be used in articles such as Stewart Ainsworth which currently doesn't use the template.
Pam D 23:18, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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'PC' currently points to 'Privy Council of the United Kingdom', should be ' Privy Council (United Kingdom)'. Let me know if I'm missing something. skak E L 18:57, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
An RM that will be of interest to editors here. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 16:07, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
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The use of this template on user/draft pages can incorrectly add those pages in article categories. Could this template be changed so that the categories are only added for articles? Maybe with the use of {{ main other}}? Thanks! GoingBatty ( talk) 16:30, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
{{post-nominals|country=AUS-cats|OM|FRS|FRCP}}
, which adds the page to Categories: Australian members of the Order of Merit, Australian Fellows of the Royal Society, and Australian Fellows of the Royal College of Physicians.{{post-nominals|country=AUS|OM|FRS|FRCP}}
.
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A typo has been introduced into the template, with the post-nominals for the Air Efficiency Award currently displaying as "AEc". The "c" is a typo and is not part of the post-nominals for this award. Would someone please remove the "c"?
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− | AE= [[Air Efficiency | + | AE= [[Air Efficiency Award|AE]] |
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Is it possible to add: AIM = AIM BoonDock ( talk) 18:32, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Could someone please take a careful look at the Postnoms for "SC". In the Template:Post-nominals/AUS file, SC is Senior Council and in the Template:Post-nominals/AUS-cats SC is Star of Courage (Australia). in Template:Post-nominals/AUS, SoC is the Star of Courage (Australia). Picked this up on Gail Archer from the [[Category:Recipients of the Star of Courage (Australia)]]
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change KHC = KHC to KHC = KHC Dormskirk ( talk) 12:54, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
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For post-nominals/CAN template, please add the following missing fellowships:
| FRCGP = [[Royal College of General Practitioners|FRCGP]] | FCFPC = [[College of Family Physicians of Canada|FCFPC]] | FCFPC(hon) = [[College of Family Physicians of Canada|FCFPC(''hon'')]]
2605:B100:137:FD54:7456:5DA5:C703:2272 ( talk) 12:51, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
As in title: {{post-nominals|GBR|FSA}}
produces (a blank space as I see it), as does {{post-nominals|GBR-cats|FSA}}
. However, FSA (Fellow of the Society of Antiquaries) is given on the documentation page as a valid argument. I'd echo the suggestion made a couple of months ago by
SMcCandlish that unknown parameters should simply be passed as plaintext or red links.
UndercoverClassicist
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{{post-nominals|country=GBR|FSA}}
works for me. —
Archer1234 (
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This template is unhelpfully hiding entries it doesn't have special code for. It should just present them as plain text. E.g. {{
postnom|FLSW}}
produces output of: "". That's a "user-hateful" behavior. —
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Maybe use the proper template
{{post-nominals|country=GBR|FLSW}}
instead of
{{postnom|FLSW}}
to actually get the result you want. 2605:B100:120:9737:805A:C1AD:A0CE:8FE ( talk) 12:26, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
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The MP post-nominal redirects to the House of Commons. It should instead redirect to the Member of Parliament (Canada) page as that’s what MP post-nominal stands for. 2605:B100:120:9737:805A:C1AD:A0CE:8FE ( talk) 12:29, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
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The link to the document "THE ORDER OF WEARING AUSTRALIAN HONOURS AND AWARDS" is dead. The URL has changed to: https://www.pmc.gov.au/sites/default/files/resource/download/wearing-awards-order-of-wearing.pdf
Nothing else has changed, including the date of the document that follows the link. SCHolar44 ( talk) 07:15, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
{{
edit template-protected}}
is usually not required for edits to the documentation or categories of templates using a
documentation subpage. Use the 'edit' link at the top of the green "Template documentation" box to edit the documentation subpage.
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Description of suggested change:
Would like the template to take account of the ambiguous UK post-nominal "FRAS", for Fellowship of the Royal __Astronomical__ Society and Fellowship of the Royal __Asiatic__ Society. Please bear with me if I'm mistaken but I understand this is usually handled by creating 'pseudo-acronyms' which have, say, a letter added, which Wiki parses to the actual intended tag? E.g. FRSCa maps to FRSC "Fellowship of the Royal Society of Canada" rather than FRSC "Fellowship of the Royal Society of Chemistry". Hope this makes sense - thank you for bearing with a relative newbie! 2A02:C7C:4616:9100:B8F9:5E06:97DB:E74 ( talk) 14:35, 14 December 2023 (UTC)