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Curious as to how come template documentation is going to auto doc, which can only be edited by admins and TEs? Now there are two open edit requests to edit the documentation. Shouldn't the documentation continue to be editable by non-TEs? P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 06:13, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi! I suspect you are talking about documentation for Module:WikiProject banner? This is produced by Module:WikiProject banner/templatepage which is only semi-protected, so any editor should feel free to edit and improve — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 09:17, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but Martin, most editors won't have a clue about editing a "module". Most barely know how to edit the unprotected /doc pages of a template. Why make it harder or even impossible for them?
P.I. Ellsworth ,
ed.
put'er there 22:42, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- The only way to achieve autodoc is by using a module, so I don't know what the alternative is? Of course it is possible to not use the autodoc, and create documentation in the usual way. the advantage of creating it automatically is that is doesn't need to be maintained and will update when features are added/removed. — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 17:40, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but Martin, most editors won't have a clue about editing a "module". Most barely know how to edit the unprotected /doc pages of a template. Why make it harder or even impossible for them?
P.I. Ellsworth ,
ed.
put'er there 22:42, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Forgive me Martin because I still haven't wrapped myself around this. The
|DOC=autoparameter and argument makes it so that the documentation cannot be edited by any user and must be edited by TEs and admins. That seems to go counter to one of the main reasons for having a separate /doc page, doesn't it? I think it makes sense for these project banner templates to be protected, but what exactly is achieved by taking the ability to edit documentation away from all users? - In addition, I looked at the
Module:WikiProject banner/templatepage, where the requested edit at
Template talk:WikiProject Hinduism#Template-protected edit request on 15 March 2024 seems to require that module to be edited. I found where the section is – line 574, which starts the "Full usage" section, to line 597, which starts "Parameters" section – somewhere in the code between those lines appears to be where we can remove the redundant
|importance=parameters (there are a total of five redundant (six total) instances of that parameter in the Full usage section of the {{ WikiProject Hinduism}} project banner's documentation). My grasp of Lua is very basic and I don't have a clue how to do it. That takes us back to why on Earth would we make it so that all users cannot edit the documentation? and then leave it to only editors who have a good grasp of Lua? P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 02:17, 21 March 2024 (UTC)- I think the auto doc function is useful for project banners where no one has bothered to write any custom documentation. It can still be customised by removing
|DOC=autoand writing your own instructions, if anyone wishes to. As explained above, it is not restricted to admins or TEs at all - the module is only semi-protected. — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 11:49, 17 April 2024 (UTC) - Regarding the issue of the duplicated importance parameters. This is because the hinduism template uses the same
|importance=parameter for 6 different purposes (general importance and five separate task force importances) so the module is getting confused. I should be able to sort that by checking that each parameter has not already been displayed. Leave it with me. — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 11:52, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think the auto doc function is useful for project banners where no one has bothered to write any custom documentation. It can still be customised by removing
- Forgive me Martin because I still haven't wrapped myself around this. The
Question from Jaquezux (12:31, 21 March 2024)
Hi Martin! Hope you are doing fine! I just translated the Little Nightmares III page into Portuguese, but I can't publish it due to "linking to Youtube", but I'm not mentioning any links to youtube (or other external website) in my translation. Could you help me, please? -- Jaquezux ( talk) 12:31, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- This may be an issue with the edit filter on the Portuguese Wikipedia. I see the "youtube" is mentioned in the article, so perhaps that is triggering an edit filter. I suggest you take note of the message displayed when you try to make the edit, and then post at pt:Ajuda:Tire suas dúvidas for assistance there — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 12:38, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Actually there was a reference to YouTube, which I have just removed. Perhaps you can try the same with your translation — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 12:41, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Question from Nadimxxxkhan on Help:Introduction to editing with VisualEditor/3 (13:25, 27 March 2024)
বাংলাদেশ আমার।।। আমা দেশ আমার অহংকার। -- Nadimxxxkhan ( talk) 13:25, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi User:MSGJ please could you see and review this Talk:Sargun Mehta#Semi-protected edit request on 21 March 2024 2A02:6B68:10:6100:E164:852D:278F:5DC7 ( talk) 19:44, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
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Question from CandyCola4444 (01:29, 4 April 2024)
I know how to create a citation i have some of experience i submitted an draft with citations but it got declined by saying the provide the source wherre he meet general bruh this is Indian history not roman or german and Sushtavarman was a king not general now what i have to do pls tell me -- CandyCola4444 ( talk) 01:29, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. I assume we are talking about
Draft:Gauda conquest of Kamarup? — Martin (
MSGJ ·
talk) 08:21, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- I've put some suggestions for you on the talk page
Draft talk:Gauda conquest of Kamarup — Martin (
MSGJ ·
talk) 08:28, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- yes give me suggestions CandyCola4444 ( talk) 10:03, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. CandyCola4444 ( talk) 10:04, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- I've put some suggestions for you on the talk page
Draft talk:Gauda conquest of Kamarup — Martin (
MSGJ ·
talk) 08:28, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
I realize, MSGJ, that the long list of previous events on the WIR Events page is intended to facilitate searching. But as this page is transcluded on the main WIR page, it makes it difficult to see the sections which follow. I suggest you introduce a show/hide option, defaulting to hide. (It might also be useful to introduce a columns display to save horizontal space.) I would have edited the page myself but am not sufficiently familiar with the approach you have developed. If there is an easy way to undertake edits along these lines, it would be good to know how they can be made. Happy editing!-- Ipigott ( talk) 08:32, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't realise that was transcluded on the main project page. I totally agree it is too much to include the whole list there. How about we just list the current, recent and upcoming events there, and leave the whole list at /Events. Please check my recent changes? — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 08:44, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hall also changed it to use a level 3 header instead of level 2, so it fits better on the page now — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 09:20, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the improvement on the main WiR page. We can now see the other items much more easily. I've looked at the changes you made on
Module:Women in Red event/sandbox but would never have been able to make them myself. I really think it's important for us to be able to make changes ourselves. One of these days you might no longer be available and then we would have to find some other expert to take over. As part experience shows, it's not always easy to do so. As for the display on the Events page, I still think it would be useful to use columns as we do on many WIR pages which include long lists. I also think that for completed years, it would be preferable to run from January to December rather than from December to January. It might also be useful to display the events for the past full year (now 2023) but offer a show/hide option for the remainder. That kind of display may be more in line with what other WIR participants would like to see.--
Ipigott (
talk) 08:59, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- The sandbox is just where I play around. The live code is at Module:Women in Red event.
- I kind of see where you're coming from, but that would be a reason not to do anything technical, which would be a big loss for the project. While I am planning to stop developing the code further shortly, I will be around indefinitely to maintain it.
- Yes columns might work well. I'll have a play around with that.
- Not sure about Jan-Dec if we are sorting reverse chronological. Then you would have Dec 2023 next to Jan 2022, which is not logical as they differ by nearly two years?
- Do you mean a show/hide for each year (like we had on the navigation template for a short time)? I can have a look into that. Or if you mean a general show/hide for all the other years, I can't really see the benefit on the /Events page because people can just scroll down as far as they wish.
- — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 18:43, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the improvement on the main WiR page. We can now see the other items much more easily. I've looked at the changes you made on
Module:Women in Red event/sandbox but would never have been able to make them myself. I really think it's important for us to be able to make changes ourselves. One of these days you might no longer be available and then we would have to find some other expert to take over. As part experience shows, it's not always easy to do so. As for the display on the Events page, I still think it would be useful to use columns as we do on many WIR pages which include long lists. I also think that for completed years, it would be preferable to run from January to December rather than from December to January. It might also be useful to display the events for the past full year (now 2023) but offer a show/hide option for the remainder. That kind of display may be more in line with what other WIR participants would like to see.--
Ipigott (
talk) 08:59, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, MSGJ, for these comments and explanations. I don't think we are in danger of never doing anything technical. Just look at all those Wikidata-based redlink pages which have proved so popular. I was in fact one of the first to develop them but gave up when more technically competent experts came along. If necessary, I could certainly still create/edit them. The logic is not too difficult to follow. As for your being around "indefinitely", we initially had the same impression with our Project X experts Harej and Isarra but they gradually lost interest and become involved in more exciting innovations. We ran into all kinds of difficulties, perhaps the most important being our inability to maintain our membership lists. As a result we implemented a new, fully accessible approach which seems to be working quite well. As for the show/hide options, they have proved useful in our old navigation template. Now that the Events page is apparently no longer transcluded, it might be interesting to add new sections covering most successful meeetups, contests, events repeated year by year, etc. If so, it would be useful to have a general show/hide option for everything except the past year. (But are we in fact still able to add new sections to the Events page without your help?) So you now have my stand on these matters. Rosiestep might also like to comment on them.-- Ipigott ( talk) 10:00, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Question from PhilippTeslyuk (02:19, 7 April 2024)
how to create a article -- PhilippTeslyuk ( talk) 02:19, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Question from Shaheralis (17:01, 14 April 2024)
Hello -- Shaheralis ( talk) 17:01, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
i have one profile to edit as there are may information in it which was wrong or not cited. The profile belong to someone in the government and not so sure how i should access and edit and change. Please advise . -- Shaheralis ( talk) 17:08, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- @
Shaheralis If you can tell me the name of the article you are looking at, I may be able to give some suggestions — Martin (
MSGJ ·
talk) 07:59, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
-
Hissa Abdulla Ahmed Al-Otaiba, this profile need to be updated and edited. Would appreciate it if you can assist.
Shaheralis (
talk) 09:12, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- You can do this yourself if you press the "edit" button at the top of the article. What needs to be updated? — Martin (
MSGJ ·
talk) 09:20, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- As this will be the first time to do and due to the sensitivity concerns. I may need some assistance. Shall i provide you with the areas that are needed to be edited ? thanks
Shaheralis (
talk) 09:29, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- I've created a copy in your userspace at
User:Shaheralis/Hissa Abdulla Ahmed Al-Otaiba so you can practise on there first — Martin (
MSGJ ·
talk) 09:30, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot MSGJ! Appreciate it. Should keep you updated if any. Many Thanks ! Shaheralis ( talk) 12:18, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- I've created a copy in your userspace at
User:Shaheralis/Hissa Abdulla Ahmed Al-Otaiba so you can practise on there first — Martin (
MSGJ ·
talk) 09:30, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- As this will be the first time to do and due to the sensitivity concerns. I may need some assistance. Shall i provide you with the areas that are needed to be edited ? thanks
Shaheralis (
talk) 09:29, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- You can do this yourself if you press the "edit" button at the top of the article. What needs to be updated? — Martin (
MSGJ ·
talk) 09:20, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
-
Hissa Abdulla Ahmed Al-Otaiba, this profile need to be updated and edited. Would appreciate it if you can assist.
Shaheralis (
talk) 09:12, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Question from CandyCola4444 (09:27, 15 April 2024)
How do can i upload a draft to article instantly? -- CandyCola4444 ( talk) 09:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Question from AdamAlmahdi (17:31, 18 April 2024)
Hello, how to create an article page for my business company ? -- AdamAlmahdi ( talk) 17:31, 18 April 2024 (UTC)