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I'd like to know anyone's thoughts on adding a parameter for succeeding offices, when the template is used in conjunction with former offices. For that reason, I propose the addition of a Superceded by parameter.-- Tærkast ( Discuss) 11:35, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
What is the purpose of the | type =
and | status =
parameters.
This change at United States Secretary of Defense switches between the two and is unexplained but the template documentation appears to provide no guidance on what/how to use them.–
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I am an expert in microformats. I would like to cleanup the Template and integrate with hCard. Can any admins give me right. Kutyava ( talk) 17:56, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Are the params Inaugural
and First
aliases of each other, and if not, what are they? The documentation contains insufficient information to answer this question.
The Inaugural
param is used in both example Infoboxes, but it is not listed in the
Usage or
Parameters sections, nor is it covered in the
TemplateData section. The First
param is not used in either example, but is listed in the #Usage and #Parameters sections. In the #Parameters section where First
appears, there is no indication of any aliases. If these two params are the same, that information must be added, and if they are different, they each need to be described in the Usage and Parameters sections, and one of the Examples should include both of them.
As a concrete example, does this edit make sense, or not? Mathglot ( talk) 21:03, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
|first=
is followed by |last=
, whose labels are "First holder" and "Last holder" (which is followed by |abolished=
). On the other hand, |inaugural=
is a separate field and produces the label "Inaugural holder". To me those are synonymous, and I'm guessing that the first/last/abolished was intended for posts that no longer exist, but whoever added it (or merged it in) didn't notice the "inaugural" parameter. Or vice-versa on the order of adding. Of the 5,493 articles using this infobox, 3,680 make use of the "inaugural" parameter (5 of those are blank). This is the search I used to find them:hastemplate:"Infobox official post" insource:/inaugural *=/
|first=
, then only track down the few templates with both specified? —
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Hello, I’d like to request that a parameter be added to change the label under the current officeholder’s image from “Incumbent” to something else. There are cases where this is needed, for example, on First Lady of the United States, for which the convention has evolved to avoid using the term “Incumbent” because of its strong political connotation. I realize this is an infobox template for an official post, but FLOTUS is quasi-official, and I can imagine other situations in which this would be the case and no other template would be more appropriate. Using this parameter, I’d change “Incumbent” to “Currently in role” to better reflect the consensus established on Melania Trump’s personal page. — Tartan357 ( Talk) 00:26, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
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template. FWIW, mw.com defines incumbent as "1. the holder of an office or ecclesiastical benefice; 2 : one that occupies a particular position or place". Also, per the documentation, this "template is intended to be used on articles about the post, rather than the person holding it for the moment". In what situation would "Incumbent" be inappropriate for this template, given those definitions and the template's own instructions? –
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Izno (
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As per the template's name, this is an infobox for an official post. The way that it's used is that the infobox can display a photo and as part of the caption, the word "incumbent" is auto-generated. The post immediately above questions this practice. I had previously raised an issue with this in 2013 but that attracted no response.
I suggest that we do discuss this issue. What I had raised in 2013 was that where this infobox is used for a post that no longer exists, there is no incumbent. But there may have been a prominent officeholder and it may well be appropriate that this person be shown in the infobox, as a strong association with the post may exist. There is no way to generate a caption and the result is that the photo is shown without a caption that explains what this is all about. And as the item above explains, it is sometimes not appropriate to use the label incumbent. It may also be the case that there is no photo for an incumbent, but a photo for a previous (prominent) officeholder is available. It may be appropriate to show the that previous officeholder in the infobox.
I therefore suggest that we give editors the option to generate a free-form caption for the photo. What do other editors think? Schwede 66 22:06, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
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{{Infobox official post | post = Principal Feline | image = Kittyply edit1.jpg | imagecaption = Top cat }} |
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{{Infobox official post | post = Principal Feline | image = Kittyply edit1.jpg | imagecaption = Top cat | incumbent = TC }} |
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|incumbent=
parameter is omitted (which would otherwise override the |imagecaption=
parameter as shown in the demo). Am I missing something? --
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Since this infobox pertains to the official post itself, and not merely the officeholder, it would be fitting to provide a broader historical range than the mere immediate present. Adding this parameter would go a small ways to broadening the scope of the infobox. Even better would be a list of the previous four officeholders. What do other users think? Jaredscribe ( talk) 07:30, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Are the |founder=
and |named_for=
parameters actually used? They seem ridiculous. Are there any offices named after anyone? And even if that is the case, I don't really see how these two parameters needed.
Skjoldbro (
talk) 16:59, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
hastemplate:"Infobox official post" insource:/| *founder *= *[A-Za-z]/
hastemplate:"Infobox official post" insource:/| *named_for *= *[A-Za-z]/
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{{#if:{{{incumbent|}}}|'''Incumbent<br/>{{{incumbent}}}{{#ifeq:{{{Acting|{{{acting|}}}}}}|yes|<br />[[Acting (law)|Acting]]'''|{{#ifeq:{{{Acting|{{{acting|}}}}}}|y|<br />[[Acting (law)|Acting]]'''|'''}}}}
{{#if:{{{incumbent|}}}|'''Incumbent<br/>{{{incumbent}}}{{#ifeq:{{{Acting|{{{acting|}}}}}}|yes|<br />[[Acting (law)|Acting]]'''|{{#ifeq:{{{Acting|{{{acting|}}}}}}|y|<br />[[Acting (law)|(Acting)]]'''|'''}}}}
The result being:
Acting changed to:
(Acting)
Thanks - wolf 18:09, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
{{#if:{{{incumbent|}}}|'''Incumbent<br/>{{{incumbent}}}{{#ifeq:{{{Acting|{{{acting|}}}}}}|yes|<br />[[Acting (law)|(Acting)]]'''|{{#ifeq:{{{Acting|{{{acting|}}}}}}|y|<br />[[Acting (law)|(Acting)]]'''|'''}}}}
Thanks again - wolf 09:49, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
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Move the parentheses out of the following piped link: [[Acting (law)|(Acting)]]
→ ([[Acting (law)|Acting]])
, as the parentheses are not part of the linked term. ―
Tartan357
Talk 00:35, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi
Would there be a possibility of adding a module to this infobox so that you can merge two infoboxes into one? I'm thinking of the module in Template:Infobox officeholder. In the Kim Il (politician) the Infobox Officeholder is merged with the Infobox Korean Name... Could we do something similar with this infobox? It looks like less clutter if its one infobox. -- Ruling party ( talk) 10:24, 23 February 2021 (UTC) Anyone? -- Ruling party ( talk) 12:37, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Resubmitting the proposal of the |superseded_by=
parameter. Seeing as there is a |precursor=
parameter it only makes sense to also have the other. There are also multiple articles related to former offices, which have since been replaced, so it is needed.
Additionally, I propose that the |founder=
and |named_for=
should be removed. They are barely used and unneeded.
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Goszei or anyone: please undo the most recent edit, because suddenly there are 27 pages with div-span-flip lint errors because of this template. — Anomalocaris ( talk) 08:55, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Do you think we could change the flag and seal so that they will appear on the same line, similar to how they appear on articles about countries? It will save some room and make the Infobox less bulky. Bluealbion ( talk) 19:27, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Can the template auto import content from Wikidata e.g salaries, (500,000 Mauritian rupee [1]) I have been using the stated example to import from Wikidata into infoboxes but I realized that templates like Template:Infobox software automatically imports software versions and other info. List of salaries of heads of state and government has salaries data and I am planning on importing that data into Wikidata for easy updating. - DownTownRich ( talk) 22:11, 26 May 2022 (UTC) DownTownRich ( talk) 22:11, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
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Hello, we need to add another column for the Prime Cabinet Secretary. Kenya, through president William Ruto issued an executive order and appointed Rt Hon. Musalia Mudavadi as the current Prime Cabinet Secretary (2022-2027) Nabiyimba ( talk) 08:03, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
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talk) 20:18, 2 October 2022 (UTC)I would like to report this instance ( permlink) of using this template. The person name and the string since are attached, it seems to be missing a space. ZandDev ( msg) 19:38, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
The parameter for Acting, needs to be repaired. It currently creates a 'wide' white space between the individual's name & when they assumed the 'acting' role. GoodDay ( talk) 03:54, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
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Adding another field for "Headquarters" since not every political officeholder has a residence, but they do have a workplace or headquarter: Residence is good, but for many offices, the correct term would be "Headquarters" or "Office" or "Workplace". Would it be possible to add "Headquarter" "(or "Office" for instance) alongside "Residence"? For instance, the headquarter of the General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam and the Permanent Member of the Party Central Committee's Secretariat is the Headquarters of the Party Central Committee. However, the party does not have an official residence for officeholders, as is the case in the United States and the United Kingdom. The same goes for China, the former Soviet Union and probably many other countries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheUzbek ( talk • contribs) 14:05, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
It's not very clear as to what the status and type parameters, are meant to be used for, so I think it would be helpful to have it clarified, and for any new parameters that get added to be clarified so people know what the parameter needs to be used for. I would also ask for the paramter "superceded by" to be clarified by saying it is in reference to the successor post, if the infobox is being used in a former office article.-- Tærkast ( Discuss) 18:59, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
I think we should changed Appointer and Nominator to “Appointed by” and “Nominated by”. There are some articles where the post is filled by election, causing the grammar to be slightly off and look a little awkward . Bluealbion ( talk) 14:22, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
The template has the appearance {{{post}}} of {{{body}}} but in Gujarati language we need {{{body}}} ના {{{post}}}. In English it corresponds to {{{body}}}'s {{{post}}}. Because in Gujarati we have this formation only. Please guide, how do I change in the template page in Gujarati Wikipedia. Also, I am able to see some titles in Gujarati like માનદ્ {{{style}}} પ્રકાર {{{type}}} સ્થિતિ {{{status}}} and many more. But I do not know how and where they come from. Please guide.
Dr. Dinesh Karia (Talk) (contribs) 19:21, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
This is something that has bothered me for several years, but why is it the articles with this info box not including links to recent and upcoming elections near the bottom, similar to info boxes about legislatures? This seems like incredibly useful information regarding any positions that are elected.
To find any election information for elected positions, such as presidents, one has to either get lucky and find a link in the see also section, or hope they could find it by some chain of articles. Mortimer778 ( talk) 15:21, 26 May 2024 (UTC)