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According to Google Maps, Cheyenne does not, in fact, border Colorado. 128.187.112.7 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:49, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
Carson City and interstate highways?
Is it just me or does all the information about "carson city not having an interstate highway" not appropriate for such a prominent place in the article. I agree that this information is valid for an article on Carson City, but belongs farther down, perhaps in a transportation section or trivia. Any objections to moving it?
davemeistermoab 2 May 2006
Carson city was named for Kit Carson. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.206.68.3 ( talk) 18:19, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
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Hmmm... I don't know about the claim that Carson City is an independent city is correct. I've been under the impression that it is a consolidated city/county much like San Francisco. I'm trying to find a source (either city charter or NRS) that will back one or the other of these views. --- Sdp 04:57, 19 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Carson City is not just a consolidated city/county, it is clearly an independent city. This is what the U.S. Census Bureau defines it as, because its what the State of Nevada defines it as. See http://www.bartleby.com/69/90/C02790.html where it says "Ormsby co. was put out of existence, making Carson City an independent city, not part of any co. and statistically having county equivalent status." See also Google at [1] for the 340 pages where both "Carson City" and "independent city" are mentioned. radiojon 05:52, 2003 Aug 19 (UTC)
I think the most practical definition of independent city is a city which is not defined (under state law and constitution) to be a part of any county. I suppose that consolidation would be a necessary step toward creating one though.
A true consolidated city/county would be like in Miami, which has for a very long time had a unified government with Dade County – to the point that the county name was changed by vote of the city/county council and referendum of the voters to Miami-Dade County. What makes this different is that other incorporated cities exist within the county, outside of Miami, including Homestead and Miami Beach. Based upon what Florida allows, these cities are autonomous and can pass their own laws and zoning, while responsibilities that Florida specifically delegates to the counties only (even within the cities) are still handled by the combined Miami city and Miami-Dade county government.
Another situation is at the other corner of the state, where Jacksonville incorporated all of Duval County in 1968, and the two governments were combined. In this case, there aren't even any other city governments to consider, but technically Florida still considers the city and county as separate entitites, even though they are jointly run.
In Nevada, by whatever agreement, law, and/or state constitution, the state considers that Ormsby County no longer exists at all, therefore automatically making Carson City an independent city. Apparently this is a legal distinction or necessity in that state. Otherwise, it would be the same as Jacksonville, though I'm sure Florida has its own legalities, either not defining or not allowing: (1) a county to be abolished, or (2) the formation of an independent city.
In Virginia, every city is independent, even those which are the county seat of a county (oddly enough).
The ultimate example of an independent city is Washington, D.C., which is the only city in the country that is not an any state at all — it's strictly the city and federal governments. This is probably the distinction that most states use, simply a city under the state with no county "middle-man" in between.
In the end, it's essentially a matter of semantics and what each state's law defines. Typically, counties are extensions of the state, with responsibilites such as voter registration and elections, public schools, public health, enforcement of state laws, and collection of sales taxes; while cities are more
autonomous, and have powers of annexation and sometimes
ETJ which counties do not.
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radiojon 08:21, 2003 Aug 19 (UTC)
Miami and Miami-Dade County, Florida are not consolidated. Miami-Dade County was renamed from Dade County to highlight the fact that the entire area, not just the City of Miami, is often identified as Miami ("to acknowledge the international name recognition of Miami"- from miamidade.gov link below). Miami-Dade County is made up of 30 municipalities and an extensive unincorporated area. The City of Miami is still a separate municipality within, and the seat of, Miami-Dade County. Miami-Dade County acts in many ways as a city government, calling its executive "mayor" and providing fire, police and other traditional "city" services to many areas of the county, including some municipalities and all unincorporated areas. However, the City of Miami still has its own mayor, police, fire, etc. ( http://www.miamidade.gov/info/about/government.htm )( http://www.ci.miami.fl.us ) 21 Oct 2003.
i want more information i don't understand! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.209.69.14 ( talk) 01:31, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
This article has been tagged with Photos Requested ever since I started contributing to Wikipedia. I finally got off my duff and took some pictures. I hope this wasn't overkill. If anybody thinks it was feel free to delete or discuss removing images that are not adding value to the article. If nobody objects after a few days I will assume this is fine and de-tag the article for photos requested. Davemeistermoab 05:55, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I've removed a lot of text which is from visitcarsoncity.com, which was added in 2006. -- h2g2bob ( talk) 01:06, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
1. I believe that the Chinese slavery aspect of the history section needs citation.
2. I think this section needs expansion, surely this is not the only notable history of Carson City
BEn ( talk) 19:43, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Here is the deleted paragraph:
In the early 1800s, during the Californian gold rush, American businessmen went to China with the promise to the Chinese that, with a small passage fee on board the American ships, the Chinese could go to California to participate in the gold rush for themselves. However, instead of bringing the Chinese to San Francisco, they brought these gold-seeking Chinese to Carson City to work as slaves, building the railroad. They were not able to leave Carson city because Carson City was relatively far away from the Californian coast.
Davemeistermoab ( talk) 01:55, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Citations about the history of Chinese slavery and oppression can be found in the archives of the Nevada Appeal. Unfortunately there are no digital copies of the archives one would need, as they are about a hundred years old. I recall reading excerpts in the Pages from the Past section. Seeing as this was a rather large part of the city's history, I'd like to find a way to include this information. Does anyone have any ideas about how to cite these issues? Would a hosted typecopy count or would one need to actually scan the volumes?
Tashabot (
talk) 03:54, April 30 2008 (UTC)
There used the be a section in here about the Geography of Carson City. Why was it deleted? There was some information in there that I don't see elsewhere in the article now.
An anon had posted the following into the article. I'm moving it to the talk page as this content doesn't belong within the article itself. I believe the confusion is the difference between the city of Carson City, and the Consolidated Municipality of Carson City ... but I don't live in that area, so am only guessing based on what's in the article. --- Barek ( talk • contribs) - 21:20, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Can someone review the grammar and if it is acceptable, mark that as yes in the assessment? Vegaswikian ( talk) 08:47, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Editor Yellow Evan has removed the small gallery (4 photos) twice now, commenting "Wikipedia is not a gallery". Galleries do, in fact, have a place here, and this one (imo) adds to the article.
I've restored it; please discuss here rather than reverting again. --Pete Tillman 19:39, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
The problem is that the image should be in one section. Besides, this article already has a lot of images. Leave Message, Yellow Evan home
This is about https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/?title=Carson_City,_Nevada&curid=7441&diff=448849459&oldid=448804421 I'm curious why the word "only" was considered to be vulgar? I'm guessing that the editor was thinking in terms of "after all, they were only Indians." But "only" doesn't always carry that connotation. For example, the phrase "only one brave enough," which uses "only" in a positive context, got me over 500,000 Google hits. In context in the article, it seems to me to be a generic descriptor that identifies that there were no other people there at the time. If that is correct, it is important information and I think it should be restored. Alden Loveshade ( talk) 19:09, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
This may be useful information later on in the article, but you never hear it addressed as the “Consolidated Municipality of Carson City”. It should be labeled as what it is referred to as, just Carson City, with the Consolidated Municipality of Carson City being touched on later in the article. Other thoughts on this? Blackbird5555 ( talk) 03:06, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Does anybody know of a list or map of Ormsby county cities and towns (pre-consolidation)? Emmette Hernandez Coleman ( talk) 19:43, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
There is a statement in the middle of paragraph 3 of the History section that is referenced currently to source[6], a website called Visit Carson City, referring to the naming of the city. The website identifies Franklin Proctor as the person who named Carson City, whereas the current text of the article says it was Abraham Curry. Is it reasonable to assume that the website is correct? I don't wish to edit an article whose subject I have no special knowledge of, without confidence in the source. Perhaps someone could check this out. The question of who named the city seems to be not insignificant. Alfrew ( talk) 20:48, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
Found a book that phrases it this way: "The town, a little over a mile square, was platted in the early fall of 1858 on the south section of Eagle Valley Ranch and was named Carson City in honor of the frontier scout, Kit Carson. Wide streets were laid out and Curry reserved a plaza of four acres in the center of town for a public square. Streets and subdivisions were named for the four men, Curry, Musser, Proctor and Green, thus perpetuating their memory." [1] Anniepaints
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There is a content dispute about whether—following the common name—the official name, "Consolidated Municipality of Carson City", should also be included in the first sentence of the lead.
MOS:LEAD states:
At Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names)#General guidelines, the guideline regarding the first sentence suggests that local official names should be listed if they are in a foreign language:
There was also a discussion above.
My reason for challenging this is because MOS:LEAD also suggests "Be wary of cluttering the first sentence".
My interpretation of these MOS/guidelines is that the official name needs to be significantly different from the common name, and my opinion is that "Consolidated Municipality of Carson City" is not so different from "Carson City" this it merits cluttering the first sentence with information more appropriately placed elsewhere. Magnolia677 ( talk) 11:10, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
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