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I took out "...After that, Coolidge became withdrawn and mute. Before he had been a relatively active, talkative,
While Coolidge was deeply saddened by his youngest son's death, he certainly did not become mute ("When he went the power and the glory of the Presidency went with him."). He was never known to be talkative, even before Calvin,Jr's death.
Does anybody know why the English version (as well as other Western language versions) messed up the Chinese link? (Japanese and Chinese versions are fine) -- Jackcsk 04:32, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
this site claims he had Indian blood
Actually, I beleive he was refering to the vial of Soiux blood that he kept under his pillow. Drunkboxer 00:57, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Just to point out, the quote on persistence was repeated twice, once near the top and again at the bottom. I removed the second incarnation. Also, I just find it intertesting to see that the quote regarding "You lose" has been changed to "Poppa wins." Everywhere I've looked, including Wikiquotes, has the quote as "You lose." The Whitehouse biography has this as well. Is there another reputable source that justifies this change? -- Az 19:47, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
I rm the fol quote: "I am a very important man and I was reelected in spite of what nay-sayers noted, take that!" I can't find this anywhere on the Net; if it is actually a noted quote, we should say noted by whom. Not that the Net is the be all and end all of info; however, there should be at least a mention of it somewhere, as it seem sto be very uncharacteristicof Mr Coolidge. As well, it was added in by a user whose only other edit was a pointless POV insert at Zimbabwe to the effect of "they never should have kicked all the Europeans out", all in caps.
Hmm, I'm not so sure about the link "Silent Cal" in the notes section. Is linking to a site that's selling a term paper on the topic really a good idea? Shouldn't this be a more authoritative source instead? I'll look for something of the sort, but I'd love to hear other people's opinions on this.-- Az 21:03, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
What is this "Cool Cal" mnemonic the article talks about? It should be explained in the text (and I can't find anything on Google). SigPig 00:14, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
This may sound odd, but Cal has always been my favorite president. I think his ideas were brilliant. andrew... 04:11, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Could someone confirm that Carlos Coolidge was a relative of Calvin Coolidge?-- Rayc 04:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
The Journal of American History published in June 2006 an article here, which points out that: "This waffling—encouraged by the npov policy—means that it is hard to discern any overall interpretive stance in Wikipedia history. One might expect—given the Randian politics of the founders and the strength of libertarian sentiments in cyberspace—a libertarian or conservative slant. But I did not find it. One can see occasional glimmers, as in the biography of Calvin Coolidge that says with apparent approval, “Coolidge was the last President of the United States who did not attempt to intervene in free markets, letting business cycles run their course.” This sentence was inserted early on by an avowed libertarian and it has survived dozens of subsequent edits." It seems this sentence has been correctly removed. Tazmaniacs 17:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
General sources:
Coolidge arose at 7:00 AM March 4, 1929, and (after breakfast, and a complaint that it always rained when moved) "went to his desk and signed more bills" (Richard Sobel: Coolidge: An American enigma. p, 402.) Septentrionalis 19:11, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
What does running for the presidency as a 'favourite son' mean? Martyn Smith 14:47, 6 December 2006 (UTC) I'm sorry if I screwed up the format of this page, but I had to remove the vandalism that said Coolidge is a cocksucker. Coolidhe was a great man.
Vandalism is back. Someone should go through this article and make sure that nothing else is changed. Also this page should probably be locked.
When President Harding died (Before Mid-night, Aug.2, 1923) in Los Angeles (PST), Vice President Calvin Coolidge became President. However, Coolidge was in (at the momment of Harding's death) Vermont (past mid-night, wee early morning of Aug. 3 EST). Should we list Coolidge as becoming President on August 3rd? How should this be listed? GoodDay 00:04, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
1928 Election: "He did not seek I LOVE JOEY renomination" I don't know if this should be "republican renomination" or if it it just "renomination" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.189.197.44 ( talk) 22:32, 27 January 2007 (UTC).
Hit the "history" tab up top and you get a log of all the edits to the article. You can use the "compare versions" feature to see what exactly was done each time. Someone has already fixed the vandalism you noticed. Thanks for paying attention. Mrees1997 22:38, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Why is the reference to Coolidge's KKK connection always removed? The photos of the large rally and parades of 1925-26 in front of the White House exist. He was the for lack of a better word "Grand Marshal". This is WRONG to remove when there are photos, this is wrong to remove when it is fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.81.151.172 ( talk • contribs)
I'm not sure I see the point in the little state flags next to Coolidge's places of birth and death. But if you're going to use them, why use for Vermont when at the time Coolidge was born was the flag of Vermont? This all seems rather pointless, since the name of the state is already there, obviating the need for a flag, but if we're going to keep them, let's at least get it right. Coemgenus 15:38, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Is that really the other point of view that Greenberg describes, as opposed to, perhaps, people who see in his policies the groundwork of the Depression? With Hoover as his sec. commerce, Coolidge's administration was not exactly non-interventionist unless you compare it to Wilson's war administration. Gazpacho 18:48, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
"Coolidge had not stood out in the Harding administration, as much of the focus was on the scandals that had begun to emerge by 1923, most notoriously the Teapot Dome scandal."
I question the accuracy of the above sentence, but I do not have access to the sources cited. According to WP's Teapot Dome article, it did not become a full-blown scandal until 1924, after harding died. Thus, even though it had begun to emerge by 1923, it would not have been a major focus. Finally, there is no way it good have been a major focus in 1921 or 1922, the other two years of the Harding administration.
I'm also not sure why it's significance that "Coolidge had not stood out." Very few VPs stood out. I propose that the sentence be deleted.
For the same reason, I would delete the sentence part that reads "Although many of Harding's cabinet appointees were scandal-tarred." Most, if not all of the affected appointees became scandal-tarred after he allowed them to stay on. Eldred 15:55, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
It's a rare day in America that anyone speaks Calvin Coolidge's name in the 21st Century. I think it would be interesting and useful to include the parody of Coolidge in Jon Stewart's America (the Book) as a published mention of that fact that the nickname Silent Cal is iconic of Coolidge's image, even unto 2006. The exact wording of the reference is the same as the first quotation about the "more than two words" bet, but he "replies", "fuck you" instead. It's perfectly acceptable to include the full Jon Stewart quotation ( WP:NOT), but it's not absolutely necessary per the reason for including a sentence about the book's mention of Coolidge. VanTucky 05:07, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
"mitigating some of the adverse effects of capitalism"
This line, that appears in the very first section of the article, seems particularly biased. Some believe there are adverse affects that should, or even could, be mitigated. However, others believe that the adverse situations that are attributed to capitalism, are in fact created, if not at least exasperated, by programs that purport to mitigate them.
This statement does not seem to take into account such differing views.—Preceding unsigned comment added by BrownHornet ( talk • contribs)
The introduction makes a statement "Many later criticized Coolidge as part of a general criticism of laissez-faire government, especially in times of economic hardship, such as the Great Depression.", with an accompanying reference. This statement seems a little unfair to Coolidge, given that his Presidency did not even extend into the Great Depression. Criticizing laissez-faire government is one thing, but should it be mentioned in the article on Coolidge considering that his Presidency coincided with the 1920s boom? -- Brhaspati\ talk/ contribs 15:09, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
The statement "he practiced transactional law, believing that he served his clients best by staying out of court" reflects a negative POV regarding the legal profession, as it implies that most lawyers do not share that view. Any good transactional lawyer attempts to draw contracts and other documents in which the rights of the client are protected, and, to the extent possible, eliminate or at least minimize the potential for litigation later on.
John Paul Parks ( talk) 19:08, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
While researching Billy (pygmy hippo) I discovered that Coolidge had an extensive collection of animals from his time at the White House, second only to Theodore Roosevelt. He also discusses it briefly in his memoirs. Think it's worth mentioning somewhere in the article? I don't want to just start inserting stuff into a Featured Article without bringing it up on talk. -- JayHenry 04:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
I am quite impressed with this article. It has helped me dramatically with my A.P. United States History essay assignment! Thanks! Wrhapsody 23:49, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
While vaguely interesting, Coolidge was in a hundred organizations, being a politician. We can't list them all. He was far enough removed from the Revolution itself to make no more difference in his life than the rest of us. That is, membership by heredity from that distance is not interesting to readers IMO. Also, we don't want to make article a category farm, as it were. Student7 ( talk) 11:54, 7 May 2008 (UTC) i am his 12year old distient relitive. i dont evan know him. BUT I KNOW HE WAS GREAT. well that is what i think about him. 7:38,12 jan 2009
I demand that the following phrase, "In many ways Coolidge's style of governance was a throwback to the passive presidency of the nineteenth century.[1]" is stricken from this "fabulous" article. Limited government is not an "old" idea, and big government a "new" idea. I am very weary of this well-poisoning by power-obsessed "progressives."
Furthermore, I would love to know how the Fed inflated boom of the 1920s, leading to "speculation" and malinvestment is an example of "laissez-faire" capitalism. The fact is it isn't. And no amount of whitewashing by leftists can alter this easily comprehensible fact.
Remedy this article or risk further ridicule from people who know better than to drink this Kool-aid.
(UTC) Reasonsjester ( talk) 21:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
It currently says: "The Senate eventually approved joining the Court (with reservations) in 1926.[116] The League of Nations accepted the reservations, but suggested some modifications of their own.[117]" Shouldn't it say: "The Senate eventually approved joining the Court (with reservations) in 1926.[116] The Permanent Court of International Justice accepted the reservations, but suggested some modifications of their own.[117]" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.40.192.234 ( talk) 00:15, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
The recent flap about Michelle Obama touching the queen recalls to mind the joke that when the queen (not this one, but the queen consort) visited the White House, she was greeted by the supposedly terse Coolidge with the phrase "Hi, Queen!"
Another common story involved a woman jokingly saying to Coolidge, "I made a bet with someone that I could get you to say more than two words." Coolidge supposedly replied, "You lose!" and walked away!
I guess this didn't make Featured Article containing this sort of humor. Too bad!
And before someone deletes this as irrelevant, my question is, why can't quotes, even fictive ones, be included? This must have been discussed earlier. Student7 ( talk) 01:32, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Please properly source this statement and quote:
Coolidge had been lukewarm on the choice of Hoover as his successor; on one occasion he remarked that "for six years that man has given me unsolicited advice—all of it bad."
This is all that is there:
^ Brandes, ___ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.166.230.254 ( talk) 10:41, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Can someone please go down to the references and be more specific with them. They seem to be books, but they don't go into specifics about what those are. I would, but I don't know what those books are. Wm.C ( talk) 05:17, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
I tried to move this image to the Family section up top only to have it reverted, noting that the image is under the succession section because the father administered the Oath of Office. While I understand this use of the image, wouldn't the article be better served with it used in a biographical way? The presidency section is already bulky and loaded with image while the entire family life piece is imageless. Why not include the one good image of a family member under the family section? Staxringold talk contribs 03:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
The text of the speech (available on line at [1]) does not exactly match the quote as it appears in the article. Below is a markup with corrected and omitted text in bold. I am adding "better serve the people, whatever the opposition" because the omission of this phrase changes the meaning somewhat. Interestingly, there was no indication (such as elipses) that anything had been omitted.
Newspapers across the nation picked up on Coolidge's statement and he became the newest hero to defenders of the public's safety and security. In the midst of the First Red Scare, many Americans were terrified of the spread of communist revolution, like those that had taken place in Russia, Hungary, and Germany.
Assuming it's German Revolution of 1918, can it really be called communist revolution as the quote seem to suggest? Zealander ( talk) 06:03, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
This section and First inauguration of Calvin Coolidge seem identical, so I was thinking the latter should re-direct here-- Robert Treat ( talk) 19:34, 28 October 2010 (UTC).
"So you put some conservatives, e.g., Huckabee and the neoconservatives into the progressive tradition. Calvin Coolidge was also a progressive."
Could someone here please go to this user talk page and please comment that Calvin Coolidge is not a progressive. This user continues to edit political articles believing that progressivism is modern day conservatism, and it is causing problems. AerobicFox ( talk) 17:02, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Any reason there's a comma after "Jr."? I'd delete it, but I'm only 98% sure it shouldn't be there. It should follow the same convention as dates and places: comma before but not after, like "He moved to San Antonio, Texas on May 24, 2112 with his family and goats.— Biosketch ( talk) 09:43, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Is the Keep cool with Coolidge phrase. Why is this? Daniel Christensen ( talk) 16:50, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
In the Photo of Calvin & Grace Coolidge accompanied by Charles Curtis (Senator from Kansas), on their way to the 1925 Inauguration Ceromony. Curtis is has been referred to as Vice-President-Elect. This is WRONG, in the 1925 Inagural. President Coolidge is sworn in for his Full Term as President, Charles G.Dawes is the Vice-President-Elect, Dawes is sworn in as Vice-President. Charles Curtis won't become Vice-President until the 1929 Inauguration , when Herbert C.Hoover becomes President.
http://www.calvin-coolidge.org/pages/education/facts.html
Here is a recent article in Slate regarding Coolidge's new found fame on the right [3]. Might be useful to incorporate some aspect of this into the article. Remember ( talk) 21:26, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
To Coemgenus and Rjensen: The deletion of pertinent information on Coolidge as president was removed as being not "appropriate for lede." The insertion of Coolidge's quote as a rosy optimist, not only illustrates how out of touch he was with the country as a whole, how misguided a leader, but adds a poignant, tragic, ironic counterpoint to his identification with the "average" American---an unfortunate demonstration of the hubris which is the curse of those in political life. The economic collapse of the nation was imminent, yet the government, represented by President Calvin Coolidge had their head in the sand. The concept that the "present" sets the road for the "future," is possibly a concept too intellectually challenging?... Betempte ( talk) 22:01, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Neutrality implies balance. Bias is a matter of degree. Interpretation of information is formed by the sensibilities of the reader. The goal of a biographical entry is to achieve a balanced “portrait” of a life using available documentation. It is objectionable when it skews subject matter in one identifiable direction.
I recognize that biographical editing can become contentious. Two camps of Wiki editors seem to exist—those that insist on presenting historical figures in a predominately positive light, “the icon syndrome,” I call it, and those that feel a responsibility to provide (as much as possible) a fully rounded “life story,” —the good, the bad and the ugly that is part of the human package. If I have offended anyone in expressing my philosophy on rigorous editing, I apologize. We can agree to disagree. Betempte ( talk) 22:16, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
"His policy of normalcy, or normality, stands in marked difference to the government activism of his successor Herbert Hoover, leading to a deficit and probably greatly deepening the Great Depression" Does it make sense to accuse Herbert Hoover of being too left-wing in a Wikipedia introduction about Coolidge? I see the source is Amity Shlaes; it's worth mentioning that this assertion is controversial at the very least. -- Matt McIrvin ( talk) 01:02, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
In the "Silent Cal" section it says he gave 520 press conferences, but in the "Radio, film, commemorations, legacy" section it says he gave 529. One of these figures is wrong, or both I suppose. 56.0.84.26 ( talk) 15:55, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Coolidge's self-proclaimed guard dogs whine here about critical statements made of Coolidge (and laissez-faire capitalism in general), calling such assertions biased and "unfair" in the name of maintaining a non-partisan biographical article--and yet, these same individuals seem to be more inclined to advance, and keep within the article, slanted and largely irrelevant opinions in support of Coolidge and laissez-faire capitalism, than they are to question their neutrality and validity, as they are (and should be) doing in their criticism of biased and dissenting opinions from the left.
In other words, rather than attempt to present this article from as neutral a standpoint as possible by refraining from embracing the views of either the left or the right, editors are attaching a blatant libertarian bias to the process of discussing edits to the article, to say the least. Wikipedia is not a place for Hagiographies, just as it is not a place for harangues or hate articles.
Since just about every edit to this discussion page is tinted with an obvious opinion anyway, I'll add mine by ending with a question: have any of you ever heard of "vulgar" libertarianism?
I have moved the following to reduce overcrowding: File:Coolidge inspects militia.jpg|thumb|right|175px|Governor Coolidge inspects militia. Hoppyh ( talk) 15:03, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
The narratives in this section - about his future wife seeing him shaving, and also about the socks, I find entertaining. However, there are others who disagree, because these biographical articles need to stick to more substantive facts. The view is that such vignettes or anecdotes will repel readers looking for substance in such an encyclopedic work. This subject recently was addressed briefly on Woodrow Wilson talk p., with agreement that the material should not be included. Hoppyh ( talk) 20:24, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
I've been eyeing the underlying image for a restoration - there's actually a larger version available - that one's taken from the 24 megabyte version with some weird scanning artefacts; there's a much better 64 meg version. However, I'm deeply, deeply uncomfortable with the idea of taking historic photographs, and cutting out two-thirds of the information. Please advise. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 20:33, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
[moved from User talk:Coemgenus] Hello,
In regard to Coolidge's well known affinity for cowboy costumes - it is no exaggeration. Nearly every Coolidge biography mentions it, including Bill Bryson's recent book: "America: One Summer 1927".
The amount of resources on the web detailing Coolidge's cowboy dress is beyond plentiful. Even the White House site mentions it: http://www.whitehouse.gov/about/presidents/calvincoolidge
I would recommend adding a sentence to acknowledge Coolidge's almost comical indulgence of cowboy outfits.
Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cpenderbrook ( talk • contribs) 15:30, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Here's more evidence: http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/american-president-calvin-coolidge-and-his-wife-first-lady-news-photo/3241273 (It isn't easy finding images from nearly 100 years ago!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cpenderbrook ( talk • contribs) 15:42, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure this is true anymore, I think Obama visited recently. 20.132.68.148 ( talk) 18:42, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
There seems to be a dispute regarding the accuracy of our content regarding Coolidge's speechwriter. According to Priamel, White's book does not confirm that Coolidge's speechwriter was named Hulseberg, and in fact there happens to be a modern person of that name who works as an intern for McCain, quite a coincidence (compare User talk:Priamel). Ad Orientem replaced the content without comment. Ad Orientem, did you check what White says on this topic? Unfortunately I don't have immediate access to the book myself, but I cannot find any non-Wikipedia-related online sources for this supposed speechwriter. Huon ( talk) 17:00, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
@ SNUGGUMS: I wasn't being dramatic or hyperbolic; all the sources call Coolidge's second son "Calvin Jr." Besides the New York Times obituary linked in that section ("President's son, Calvin Jr., 16 dies"), Coolidge's biographers also follow that format. Claude Fuess's 1933 book ("His second son, Calvin Coolidge, Jr., was a boy who in many respects resembled his father."); William White's 1938 book ("John, the elder, is like his mother; Cal, Jr., like his father.); Donald McCoy in 1967 ("...he was a dreadful tease of both her and the boys, John and Calvin, Jr."); Robert Sobel in 1998 ("His sixteen-year-old son, Calvin, Jr., stubbed his toe while playing tennis."); Robert Ferrell, also in 1998 ("The death of Calvin, Jr., who greatly resembled his father...."); and Amity Shlaes in 2013 ("Eventually they settled on the name both had known all along was the right one: Calvin, Jr."). So, it's not just my personal predilection, it's the name by which the boy was commonly known. -- Coemgenus ( talk) 15:17, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Actually no, that's not how it works. We go by what reliable sources tell us. A preponderance clearly use the suffix Jr. We do not substitute our own opinions for what those sources are saying. Or to put it another way, if Wikipedia had been around during the time of Galileo, we would state flatly that the sun revolved around the Earth and to the extent we discussed heliocentrism it would be described as a fringe theory because that is what the reliable sources told us. We are not in the business of discerning truth and error. We just repeat what the RS sources are saying. If you have sources that say that Jr. is wrong then we will need to extend this discussion. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 00:28, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Just wondering if this is meant to mean he was relatively progressive for his time. As far as I can see his record on overall racial equality is fairly soft, he did sign the immigration act of 1924. I will admit that he seemingly enhanced African American education and its federal funding through Howard University. Racial Equality might be a stretch, support of the African-American community may be more applicable. SIMPLEphilosopher ( talk) 03:22, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Lasalleexplorer re this edit... It depends on how you view presidential succession. Warren Harding died on the night of August 2nd 1923 but Coolidge did not get word and take the oath of office as President until after midnight. This touches on a subject that was of some debate among constitutional scholars prior to the ratification of the 25th amendment. Some believed that to become president on the death or incapacitation of a sitting president that the vice president needed to take the formal oath of office. However there was a very strongly held school of thought that the language of Article II does not require this. It says simply that "In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the Same shall devolve on the VicePresident..." This would seem to suggest that the framers envisioned a presidency that would never be unoccupied, much like a hereditary monarchy. "The king is dead long live the king."
When President Harrison died only a month after taking office in 1841 his Vice President John Tyler believed that he had become President immediately on the death of his predecessor. However he chose to take the presidential oath out of an abundance of caution and as a formality. That precedent has been observed ever since and some believed it was more than a formality. But it seems that serious constitutional scholars were divided on the point. Following the assassination of President Kennedy there was some discussion of what would have happened if Kennedy had lived but was effectively a vegetable. Former President Eisenhower publicly came down firmly on the side of the office is never vacant. He opined in an interview that Vice President Johnson became the acting President the moment Kennedy was hit in the head and had all of the powers of the office at his disposal. He went on to state that Johnson was in fact the President from the moment Kennedy was pronounced dead, more than hour before he took the oath of office.
Since then the ratification of the 25th amendment effectively codified this approach to presidential succession and no one seriously debates it any more. But Coolidge succeeded decades before the 25th amendment came into effect, in a world where instant succession was not as critical as it might be in an age of nuclear missiles and maybe 20 minutes of warning in an attack. My own view is that of President Tyler. The oath was, and is a nice formality, arguably an important symbolic act. But there is no sede vacante in the presidency. The moment Warren Harding expired (around 7:30 PST), Calvin Coolidge became President of the United States (probably in his sleep). And it was still August 2nd 1923. But this is not a crystal clear issue and there may be some who would argue that back then the oath was still more than a formality. - Ad Orientem ( talk) 02:53, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
There has been a significant amount of discussion about what date to list for VPs who become President - see, for example, Talk:List of Presidents of the United States § Start of terms for Tyler, Fillmore, Arthur, and Coolidge. The current practice in that list is to read Article II, section 1 ("Before he enter on the Execution of his Office") to mean that the oath is required before he can perform the duties of the office, but that he holds the office immediately. John Tyler, the first VP to assume the Presidency, believed that a new oath was not necessary, but that the oath he took as VP was sufficient. However, because some did not accept him as President but merely as a caretaker acting President ("His Accidency"), he chose to have the oath administered, and that practice has been followed ever since. YBG ( talk) 21:29, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
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The "References" section mentions works by "Rusnak" and "Polsky", but these are not listed in the "Works cited" section. The script User:Gadget850/HarvErrors.js is great for catching this kind of thing. -- John of Reading ( talk) 19:23, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
In the lead we have this line: "Coolidge is popularly known for the misquotation, "The business of America is business"." It's not only unreferenced, it's a redirect page back to Calvin Coolidge. Is this necessary at all? Can we remove the wikilink and add a reference instead of making it an unnecessary link? SEMMENDINGER ( talk) 18:19, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
User:Nostout offered the following in the 1928 election section: "Richard Hart (Al Capone's brother James Capone using an alias) served as Coolidge's bodyguard during Coolidge's stay in the Black Hills," citing The Big Con: Great Hoaxes, Frauds, Grifts, and Swindles in American History as a reference. I reverted this contribution because it detracted from the flow of a discussion of Coolidge's decision on whether to run for a second term and because it seemed to be an interesting trivia item about a one-time visit to South Dakota that had no real impact on Coolidge or his legacy. What do others think? Sincerely, HopsonRoad ( talk) 14:10, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi all,
I think the Works Cited section is badly categorized. The Scholarly sources subhead implies—especially to non-fluent/native/proficient English speakers, younger people, and nonacademics—that the other two same-level subheaders are not scholarly. And actually, some of them aren't scholarly at all, by definition. For example, Bill Bryson's book [1] is just a nonfiction biographical monograph. It isn't scholarly at all, and I mean that in no way as a criticism of the author. Here's the New York Times [2] talked about it in terms of trade publishing. Not a lot of scholarly works are reviewed in the Sunday Book Review. I don't really trust that entire section now (there's generally a reason to use either the notes and bib style/Vancouver or author-date style. Not both.)
I propose that the Works cited section be gone through and sorted into "Scholarly sources, "Popular sources," and "Primary sources" (the latter being Coolidge's own writings). I'm happy to do it if no one else would like to. I would prefer to get rid of it and either incorporate them as numbered references/notes or put them under "Further reading."
Bibliographies-BreakfastOfChampions ( talk) 14:09, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
I was going to comment on how short the lead was compared to most presidents' leads, then noticed the whole article is pretty short. In terms of bytes it's the second shortest article on a president, ahead of only Zachary Taylor. This seems odd for an article on a guy who served a term and a half as well as held several other political positions. A featured article at that. Is there a reason for this? Was his presidency just not all that eventful? Lizard ( talk) 19:37, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
The lines "Nobody cares what " liberal scholars" think. They've caused the issues this country is facing. Calvin was da Man, especially according to HOTD." in the intro are pretty obviously spam, are unsourced and should be removed.
Intrepid628 ( talk) 03:31, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
The article includes the factoid that "Coolidge's speech was the first presidential speech to be broadcast over the radio." This Politico article says that Warren G. Harding was "the first president to have his voice transmitted by radio;" however it notes specifically that Coolidge gave "the first presidential radio address." I'm wondering if we should add a note or tweak the wording of this article to make it clear that Coolidge wasn't the first president to be heard over the radio, though he did give "the first presidential radio address." Orser67 ( talk) 05:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Done I believe that I have captured the above in the article. Thanks for the suggestion. HopsonRoad ( talk) 16:34, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Occasionally the sentence in the lede, "Scholars have ranked Coolidge as a below-average president.", gets called into question. This is to clarify who the scholars cited in the references are:
I hope that theses sources properly justify the lede's sentence. Sincerely, HopsonRoad ( talk) 18:50, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
The Section titled 'Flood Control' says "Coolidge has often been criticized for his actions during the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927, the worst natural disaster to hit the Gulf Coast until Hurricane Katrina in 2005.". I believe it should specify that it was the costliest as opposed to 'the worst'. The 1900 Galveston Hurricane claimed many more lives than the Flood of 1927 did, however, the Flood did cause much more economic damage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MJKaiser716 ( talk • contribs) 20:56, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
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President Calvin Coolidge's pygmy hippo, Billy, should be a part of his Wikipedia page. It's a great fun fact for any child doing a report on him in school! 174.130.20.219 ( talk) 01:19, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
Bill the pygmy hippo has a great page that some information could be added here although perhaps a new section could be added to include this such as "personal life". George W. Bush has a subsection of "Family and personal life" although Donald J. Trump has an entire section dedicated to "Personal Life". Perhaps this could be added here in addition to other information that could be found in regard to Coolidge's character and other personal details.~RosarioFreedom
If you view this page with javascript disabled and a window of around 1500px wide or more, all the images, quoteboxes, and infoboxes stack up to make an astounding amount of whitespace in the middle of the Vice Presidency section. Perhaps this is a problem with the layout engine itself, or perhaps it just can't be fixed without removing content or messing up narrow windows - I would've experimented a bit, but the page is protected.
Anyway, if someone comes up with a good idea to improve it, or passes my complaint to the appropriate place, they'll have my thanks. 173.79.250.114 ( talk) 08:57, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
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I work for the Coolidge Foundation and the External Link, supposedly to our website, on the Calvin Coolidge biography page is not the link to our website. Please change the hyperlink attached to "Calvin Coolidge Presidential Foundation" to be attached to the following URL https://www.coolidgefoundation.org/ Thank you! 2601:14F:4400:5655:9D51:88A5:D609:7A79 ( talk) 21:03, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Various editors have switched the date of when Coolidge became president between the day Harding died and the date, when he was sworn in (a day later). The question is whether he was president at the moment of death or only after being sworn in? Here is what Article Two of the United States Constitution#Clause 6: Vacancy and disability has to say on the matter:
In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the Same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.
(Note: This clause was partially superseded by the 25th Amendment in 1967.)
As of this writing, I have reverted an edit, based on the assumption that the VP becomes president at the moment of the president's demise, whether he/she is aware of that change of status, or not. What do others suggest?
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In the lead, please change "is heavily praised" to "is highly praised", or simply "is praised". 2001:BB6:4713:4858:894F:3749:9A76:D201 ( talk) 08:50, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Unless I'm mistaken, Federal Reserve is generally thought to operate independently (with notable exceptions) of US political arms since creation, yet the final sentence of this article's introduction section suggests Coolidge is responsible for actions by a nominally (at least) independent organization. While possible Coolidge pressured Roy Young or the Fed Board preceding the FOMC otherwise, the cited source does not suggest what is claimed by this article. 98.30.198.208 ( talk) 01:40, 27 July 2022 (UTC)