I did comment before on that thread? The general topic might be restricted, but I did not address anything, nor replied to anyone addressing, in either comment, a restricted topic.
People replied to my first comment without issue as well. What am I missing?
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2804:F14:80EC:AB01:D0C2:97E3:6645:A903 (
talk) 22:41, 2 April 2024 (UTC)reply
It's an internal project discussion about how to handle something related to ARBPIA so you're explicitly prohibited from taking part.
ScottishFinnishRadish (
talk) 22:43, 2 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I'm not sure if CTOPs or just ARBPIA are supposed to poison talk pages with an ECR requirement like that, but I shouldn't have tried shorting The Eternal Cycle of comments anyways... it never ends.
Is there anything to be done about excessive contributions/arguing at the reliable sources noticeboard recently? Specifically in discussions regarding the Israeli-Palestinian CTOP?
IOHANNVSVERVS (
talk) 17:29, 7 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Bludgeoning as well as more general battleground and tendentious editing.
IOHANNVSVERVS (
talk) 17:30, 7 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Unless there is someone keeping their eye on the discussion you'll have to go to AE.
ScottishFinnishRadish (
talk) 18:27, 7 April 2024 (UTC)reply
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non-EC editor creating ARBPIA articles
Hi, on
Jan 29 you delivered the ECR/ARBPIA alert to
GvTara, and
two days later you explained it further. On April 4, GvTara created
Gan Yavne stabbing attack in violation of ECR and on
April 7 made a large edit to another article on an obviously ARBPIA topic. We can take care of ordinary disallowed edits without administrator assistance, but it is unclear (and would perhaps be unwise) if I can use my administrative powers to delete the new article (since I edit in the ARBPIA area). So I ask you to please consider deleting it. This article is about one of a large number of similar events which has no notability of its own. Sufficient coverage of the incident was
already added to another article. Thanks.
Zerotalk 06:09, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I have a similar question to
Zero0000's regarding
an article that has been created by a non-EC editor. Your advice on how to proceed when a very important part of a created article (the
Armenian Genocide in this instance) falls under
WP:ARBAA2 would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
M.Bitton (
talk)
I'm less familiar with ARBAA2, but I assume you're taking about the Armenian genocide mention in that article? I personally wouldn't csd it, as the majority of the article doesn't appear to be an ECR violation. I suggest if any contentious editing by non-ec editors is taking place that you bring it to
WP:RFPP.
ScottishFinnishRadish (
talk) 23:54, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Curiously, the page currently shows two maps (the source can be consulted online)
This is the original map which can be consulted at the bottom of the article in the "Maps" section: [
[1]]. A user reversed the previous comments again.
151.47.213.4 (
talk) 14:14, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
The interesting thing is that the sources and also the other Wikipedia pages with many sources declared that the Kingdom of Sicily was part of the Empire at that time but some registered users engaged in very questionable behavior.--
2A02:B127:F03:FBCD:A868:5F00:2539:3CEB (
talk) 14:29, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
plum tree blossom for Kalevi Kiviniemi in the snow - see my talk --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 21:41, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
See? I was right all along when I misread your username as ScottishFinnishRadio. I still think of you as that.
Meters (
talk) 21:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
My
story today is about a piece composed for the Second Sunday after Easter 300 years ago, and I just returned from a (long) opera about the same age, with soprano
Pretty Yende --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 23:19, 14 April 2024 (UTC)reply
back to Copland, a little bit of background:
The list of Copland's compositions was removed within "ce", 3 Dec 2023. I discovered it by chance when the TFA appearance of
Appalachian Spring on 6 April was near, and I restored the works, 2 April, based on my understanding of
Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Infoboxes#MOS:FORCELINK (which came from
Vivaldi - same players - so you may want to study there). It was reverted, 3 Apr. I began a discussion on the article talk and alerted the author of Appalachian Spring to watch. What could I have said without you thinking "canvassing"? - How about you telling the reverter that any change to an infobox should say "infobox" (or at least "ibox") in the edit summary, at least as long as infoboxes are regarded as contentious (which I hope will end some day)? --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 08:13, 15 April 2024 (UTC)reply
(patiently waiting for answers to two questions) --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 08:32, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Sorry about the delay, I must have missed this among all my other notifications.
I'm not going to tell anyone reverting an infobox change that they must say "infobox" in their edit summary. This is far beyond the scope of CTOP, and isn't really an issue that needs solving. As for the canvassing, you did not make a neutral notification, and based on your past infobox discussions with MyCatIsAChonk you shouldn't have been reaching out to them as a neutral party. Even with a neutral notification that would have been canvassing.
ScottishFinnishRadish (
talk) 11:42, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I am sorry, it must be my lack of language. An alert = a note to please watch: no discussion was intended. The removal of the list of a composer's works was not an "infobox discussion". What in my notification was not neutral, - "rubbing eyes" perhaps? I have no words, really, for how absurd I find it to disconnect a composer from their works, which has nothing to do with infoboxes, - I would find it absurd in prose as well. MyCatIsAChonk and agree with what Voceditenore said in
the discussion for Mozart (and the community seems also to agree): "Infoboxes are an integral part of editing and more importantly of the reader experience. They allow us to cater both to the reader who is looking only for the basic facts concerning the person quickly and easily presented and to those who want a lengthy and more detailed artcle. ..." --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 12:29, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Your argument that a discussion about what to include in an infobox is not an infobox discussion is not convincing. Any discussion about a part of an infobox, how to implement an infobox, or anything else about an infobox is an infobox discussion. That you support your argument by linking to another discussion about an infobox further demonstrates that this comes down to a discussion about an infobox. Additionally, asking someone to watch a discussion is still notifying them of the discussion, which is what
WP:CANVAS covers. That you expressed displeasure with the discussion, e.g. rubbing eyes is certainly not a neutral notification. Your notification to Barkeep was also not neutral, as you expressed your opinion on it and followed up with The question is: does the list of compositions belong in the composer's infobox, and I rub my eyes how that can even be a question. What else could be more worthwhile to show?.
If you believe my logged warning was incorrect and wish to appeal you can do so at
WP:AE or
WP:AN.
ScottishFinnishRadish (
talk) 12:52, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I linked to the Mozart RfC of 2023, because for me, that changed the scene for infoboxes: once regarded as an invasion by a few who where called infobox-warriors, they came to be respected as what readers expect. I had hoped that the RfC ended discussions, and while that is true for the majority of articles I read and write (even of classical composers), in a few cases obviously not.
As I wrote in my reply on my talk, I encountered AE: I won't report a colleague, and I won't appeal. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 13:11, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
relief: the last of six RD articles in one week is now on the Main page - yesterday I went to
a great recital with many anti-war songs by Jewish composers whose music was banned by the Nazis. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 19:52, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Is the point Iskandar raises
here correct, that it doesn't fall afoul of
WP:NPA to chastiise "user conduct" in an RSN discussion if it doesn't chastise "the person"? So as not to be coy, I would suggest that that kind of personal comment is
WP:BATTLEGROUND behavior that we don't need on RSN.
Coretheapple (
talk) 16:37, 14 April 2024 (UTC)reply
It's not a personal attack, but it is mild incivility. There's not a lot I can do unless I can find the time to review that entire mess at RSN.
ScottishFinnishRadish (
talk) 20:14, 14 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Feedback request: History and geography request for comment
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I replied you on my talk page
@
ScottishFinnishRadish
There was concern which you raised on my
talk page.
Kindly be informed that I have replied and I treat this with every seriousness. Please, do clarify me on time before I move on with edits on Arab-Israel related topics.
Caleb Ndu (
talk) 16:45, 15 April 2024 (UTC)reply
SFR
replied on your talk page @
Caleb Ndu. Please do not edit in the topic area until you meet the requirements outlined in the welcome message.
Philipnelson99 (
talk) 16:54, 15 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Thanks, although I don't understand the painting with oils reference. I hope it has to do with Bob Ross.
ScottishFinnishRadish (
talk) 13:10, 19 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Ah. Yeah, Bob Ross was cool. Taught Oshwah's barber everything he knows :)
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Check
Since you're admin I'd be happy you look at
Noor TV (US) which I've nominated for speedy deletion.
Mobilustener (
talk) 13:04, 19 April 2024 (UTC)reply