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Text and/or other creative content from
USR PLUS was copied or moved into
Save Romania Union with
this edit. The former page's
history now serves to
provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.
I check pages listed in
Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for
orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of
Save Romania Union's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not.
AnomieBOT⚡ 21:15, 4 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Ideology
USR is (or at least it pretends to be) progressive and anti-corruption. Why remove these from ideology? There are also references
RAMSES$44932 (
talk) 14:16, 25 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Still centrist, liberal and progressive?
The party has formed an electoral alliance called "The Right-wing Pole" recently. Is it still accurate that "centre/centrism", "liberalism" and "progressivism" are included in the infobox and on the page or has the party shifted since and as such would removal of these be appropriate? I have opened this rfc because previous talk page sections on this talk page have not received any responses from other editors.
Helper201 (
talk) 10:17, 16 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Not as far as I can see. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 19:48, 16 December 2023 (UTC)reply
I explained in my edit summary that this was not done because previous talk page entries on this page show that no editors have been responding to any talk page topics on this page.
Helper201 (
talk) 13:49, 18 December 2023 (UTC)reply
RFCBEFORE includes asking Wikiprojects.I don’t know any rationales or arguments, how am I supposed to voice my opinion?
Aaron Liu (
talk) 14:13, 18 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Unless a person has watchlisted the page where the RfC is being held, a person arriving at an RfC - whether because of a central notice, article alerts, feedback request service or from
WP:RFC/A - sees the RfC as it presently stands, and they certainly won't see any edit summaries. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 22:57, 18 December 2023 (UTC)reply
I've now updated the rfc to explain why I opened it.
Helper201 (
talk) 15:58, 19 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Still, what are the rationales for choosing either side? I know nothing about Romania.
Aaron Liu (
talk) 16:03, 19 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Well, broadly speaking liberalism in Europe is usually consistent with centrism and progressivism with the political left. The party has formed what has been called the "United Right Alliance" with the
People's Movement Party and the
Force of the Right, two parties on the right of the political spectrum. An alliance explicitly stating it’s of the political right with two other parties both on the right may indicate that Save Romania Union itself has shifted in its political position to the right. As a political party of the centre who is liberal and progressive forming an alliance explicitly saying its "Right" with two other parties on the right would make it a strange outlier if it maintained centrist, liberal and/or progressive stances. So, this may point to a change i.e. that the sources are now outdated. We have sources calling Save Romania Union centrist, liberal and progressive on this page (it would seem, as these are cited in the infobox, though I haven't properly looked into these citations) but these citations all appear to be from 2020 at the latest and prior to then. So, the question is whether anyone can provide sources that indicate the party has shifted to the right, away from the centre and/or away from liberalism and/or progressivism. As I cannot read or speak Romanian my capacity to find sources in this matter is limited.
Helper201 (
talk) 16:37, 19 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Unless we can find some recent sources that explicitly name this party's ideology (not just these that call it right-wing), I think we should stay the status quo. Just one is not enough.
Aaron Liu (
talk) 23:38, 19 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Secularist
Any political party which does not support
state religion is secularist by definition. Even Trump's GOP is secularist by the definition just given.
tgeorgescu (
talk) 16:17, 21 December 2023 (UTC)reply