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There seems to be a contradiction in the article with the paragraph stating "the earliest known example of a Niépce photograph (or any other photograph) was created in June or July of 1827 or 1826" — and the final paragraph, which states that an earlier photograph dated from 1825 was recently discovered. Is there some disagreement as to the authenticity of the latter? If not, then the earlier statement should be modified to reflect this development. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.177.171.117 ( talk) 22:54, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
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What was sold was an heliography not a photography. Here's the first photography : http://www.sycamore-square.com/suite403-1.htm Ericd 18:26, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
Here's the link that was removed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1885093.stm
The BBC link calls it a type of photography. Perhaps in absence of something more definitive, links to both could be included in the article. Both seem to be important examples of Niepce's early work. -- Infrogmation 20:09, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
You can include the link. But despite the fact that the BBC is supposed to be a serious media it contradicts all serious historians about the birth of photography. What was sold is not a photography it's more something like a photocopy. IMO the article has to be substantially reworked about to emphasize about difference between photography/heliography/litography, but this something over my skills... Take a look at : http://www.niepce.com/pagus/pagus-inv.html Ericd 21:04, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
Niepce isn't another way of spelling his name. It's mearly a bastidardised way of spelling his name.
This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 07:36, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm in a photography class at my high school and we are currently covering the history of photography. Obviously Mr. Niépce has to be mentioned, yet I get the feeling that my teacher is clueless on how his name is pronounced. (She pronounces it like Neep- kay) Is she correct? If not, what is the correct pronunciation? Deyyaz [ Talk | Contribs ] 22:31, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
It appears that sections of this article have been copied from the [ Niépce Museum web site]. For example, the article states:
and the web site states:
Is the text from the museum public domain or compatibly licensed, or have they granted permission? - AndrewDressel ( talk) 13:43, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
In Photography and its Origins (Routledge 2015) the curator of the Ransom Center at the University of Texas, Jessica S. McDonald gives the story of how the heavily retouched version of The World's First Photograph, or more specifically, "the earliest known surviving photograph made in a camera" came to be widely reproduced in any and every publication dealing with the subject. This type of very heavy retouching was common in the 1960s when delicate values would not reproduce in newsprint (pre-Photoshop).
Barbara Brown Head of Photograph Conservation Harry Ransom Humanities Research Center The University of Texas at Austin says that "This most famous reproduction of the World's First Photograph was based upon the March 1952 reproduction produced at Helmut Gernsheim's request by the Research Laboratory of the Eastman Kodak Company in London. The pointillistic effect is due to the reproduction process and is not present in the original heliograph. The Kodak reproduction was touched up with watercolors by Gernsheim himself in order to bring it as close as possible to his approximation of how he felt the original should appear in reproduction."
The bitumen of Judea was washed with oil of lavender and turpentine - not lavender water (end of second paragraph in link to Texas University) - that's something you splash behind your ears. RPSM ( talk) 05:37, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
The text now reads: Niépce developed heliography, a technique he used to create the world's oldest surviving product of a photographic process: a print made from a photoengraved printing plate in 1825.
Well, as the print, heavily retouched by Helmut Gernsheim, was made from the original heliograph by the Kodak Laboratories in the 1950s, it is not the world's oldest surviving product of a photographic process is it?
The "photoengraved printing plate" is, in fact, the world's first (surviving) photograph and is not a printing plate, but a heliograph made with Bitumen of Judea and washed off with oil of lavender and turpentine. RPSM ( talk) 13:24, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
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