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Membership question
Membership question: are the '2004' EU memebers, members of the EEA? are the 2007 candidates? I've found this via a google search:
... (the EEA) currently has 31 member countries. These are the 15 EU Member States; Iceland, Norway and Liechtenstein, which are members of the European Economic Area; and the 13 EU accession and candidate countries, namely Bulgaria, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, Poland, Romania, Slovenia, the Slovak Republic and Turkey (from this month). The EEA is the first EU body to take in the accession countries. Negotiations on EEA membership are also under way with Switzerland.
This is wrong, EU candidates are not members of EEA, the EEA is not a EU body and Switzerland is not seeking to join the EEA as far as I know. Besides, this text contradicts itself as it claims that 31 countries are EEA members but also states (correct at the time it was written) that the EEA is EU15+IS+NO+LI. --
Bjarki 21:01, 1 November 2005 (UTC)reply
You are wrong. the newest 10 EU members have negotiated their EEA membership before joining the EU and they have joined both the EEA and EU at the same time (I can find a link somewhere about this later).
Alinor 10:02, 18 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Yes, that's what I said. EU candidates are not EEA members. --
Bjarki 13:13, 18 December 2005 (UTC)reply
It's not wrong, it's just about the European Environment Agency. — Preceding
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169.229.101.39 (
talk) 08:32, 17 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Further to these questions, Switzerland is excluded from this article, despite the fact that they are part of EFTA and have separate bi-lateral agreements with the EU. Should this not be discussed in this article? It might be confusing to some when they look at the EFTA page which clearly identifies Switzerland. The exclusion without mention leaves this question open as a point of confusion.--
Macadk - Verum aquilonem fortis et liber (
talk) 19:56, 7 March 2021 (UTC) — Preceding
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Macadk (
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Da li je tačno da su Slovenija,Italija i Malta do decembra 2023. ratifikovale hrvatski EGP i da Hrvatska u EGP ulazi u januaru 2024.?
82.118.14.134 (
talk) 20:37, 15 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Green circle around Liechtenstein?
Since the EEA has only 3 members, it might be nice to put a clear green circle around Liechtenstein? Now looking at the map, I wouldn't know they were one of the 3. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
82.157.94.3 (
talk) 20:35, 9 November 2007 (UTC)reply
No financial burden
There is an objectionable phrase here in my opinion, the article states that "EEA members have no financial burden" but the countries do contribute to the EU budget - Norway for instance contributes over 200 million Euros a year to the budget. Personally I think it's a bit misleading.
Map: Cyprus and Malta
Cyprus and Malta are missing on the map of EEA countries.
MaartenVidal 01:07, 11 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Map: Your map and maplabel sucks
The map is not clear. If you want to present the "Members of the EEA", then present it on a map, do not mix them with another "European Union" stuff. The map is complicated to read, and the label is confusing.
Thank you for the constructive comment. How exactly does the map and the label confuse you? --
Bjarki 12:32, 19 March 2006 (UTC)reply
The problem persists in 2017. It should be a map about the EEA in the first place.--
146.52.211.5 (
talk) 15:30, 19 June 2017 (UTC)reply
I agree that map is not optimal, but I do think distinction between EU and EFTA members should remain. I vote to remove Switzerland altogether from that map, change the color for Croatia to light blue (more similar to EU) and give a more distinctive color to EEA EFTA states - so that Liechtenstein is more prominent. --
Merkhet (
talk) 11:01, 20 June 2017 (UTC)reply
EEA members
I have made a minor edit to remove the previous suggestion that the EU might itself be a member of the EEA. The EU does not have legal personality, and cannot itself accede to any treaty. Only the member states can.
Pearcedh 15:23, 21 July 2006 (UTC)reply
It is true. Technically it is the
European Community which is a member in its own capacity. For most people this is the same thing. --
Bjarki 21:39, 21 July 2006 (UTC)reply
So who's a member of the EEA?
NO, IS and LI are.
The EC is.
Are any EU countries members themselves, or do they act as part of the EC in terms of EEA membership? What about SE, FI and AT, who joined the EEA one year before joining EU? Does the EEA situation look any different for those three countries than for the other EU countries? (
Stefan2 20:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC))reply
Each EU country is a member by itself, so there are 30 member countries (27+3) as well as the EC which is a member itself. --
Bjarki 20:28, 17 April 2007 (UTC)reply
That's the wrong EEA! This article is about the European Economic Area, but the page you refer to is about the European Environment Agency. The European Economic Area consists of all European Union countries as well as Iceland, Norway and Liechtenstein. The European Environment Agency consists of all European Union countries as well as Iceland, Norway, Liechtenstein, Switzerland and Turkey. (
212.247.11.156 (
talk) 21:15, 24 August 2009 (UTC))reply
Switzerland is not a member (as of the timestamp of this edit), as can be seen by this link from within the EU's official EFTA website:
http://www.efta.int/eea/eea-agreement.aspx (see note at bottom of page - Switzerland has a bilateral agreement, but is the only one of the four EFTA countries that is not also part of the EEA) --
Nrubdarb (
talk) 10:05, 27 March 2011 (UTC)reply
I don't find that the article states it is. The problem is with the map and its caption - a new map should be inserted which includes only EEA member states without mentioning or highlighting any EFTA or EU states. --
Biblbroks (talk) 19:40, 1 April 2011 (UTC)reply
Acronyms
I just want to say that the list of acronyms in the opening paragraph is BEAUTIFUL! Rock on!
Zweifel 08:13, 6 February 2007 (UTC)reply
I always intended to kill that, thanks for the reminder. --
Bjarki 00:43, 8 February 2007 (UTC) ok take it easy babe. and i want to see it works or not?????reply
History section?
Maybe it would be useful to have a history section on the EEA?
The EEA was created on 1994-01-01, consisting of the EC + SE, FI, AT, NO and IS (treaty signed 1992-05-02, Swiss referendum 1992-12-06, these dates according to Swedish Wikipedia).
SE, FI and AT joined the EU on 1995-01-01, thus superseeding the EEA treaty.
LI joined at a later point (1995-05-01 according to German Wikipedia).
When 10 countries joined the EU in 2004, the EEA treaty had to be renegotiated, and the new treaty was decided upon on 2004-01-29 in Norway (according to Norwegian Wikipedia).
More can probably be mentioned. (
58.188.97.134 18:38, 7 March 2007 (UTC))reply
Map
Isn't the map wrong? It states that
Svalbard (part of Norway) is part of the EEA, but as far as I know, it isn't, because the EEA treaty is incompatible with the
Svalbard Treaty (mainly on the free movement of people chapter: anyone, including non-EEA citizens, may move to Svalbard and start working there without the need for visas or permits). (
Stefan2 16:28, 5 August 2007 (UTC))reply
I believe that Stefan is right here. Norway -- except for
Svalbard -- is a member of the EEA. Someone should please slice off the top of that map! (I don't know how, or I'd do it.) Thanks, -
Hordaland (
talk) 15:37, 15 March 2009 (UTC)reply
I am not sure about this. Do we have a source mentioning Svalbard as excluded? Please look at the table for
EFTA-EU relations. In the Schengen agreement Svalbard is explicitely mentioned as excluded. In the EEA agreement it stated that "When ratifying the EEA Agreement, the Kingdom of Norway shall have the right to exempt the territory of Svalbard from the application of the Agreement." - so if it is excluded there should be some declaration/whatever about this and thus we should put a reference to it. Else - it is covered in the EEA (as EFTA covers the Svalbard - see point 2 of the same protocol 40).
Alinor (
talk) 11:06, 17 October 2009 (UTC)reply
I found exclusion source here:
[1] and changed the EFTA-EU table appropriately.
Alinor (
talk) 07:25, 14 April 2010 (UTC)reply
An error on the map: so far I know, the EEA includes the whole of the island of Cyprus (that is, including Northern Cyprus). — Preceding
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150.237.76.157 (
talk) 15:18, 12 July 2022 (UTC)reply
Jersey and Guernsey
Although part of the UK, are these islands included in the EEA? I have heard otherwise.
Kelvingreen (
talk) 14:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)reply
The Channel Islands are neither part of the UK nor part of the EEA.
Halx (
talk) 14:36, 22 August 2008 (UTC)reply
SImple list needed
I added a {{Clarify}} to the membership section with this reason: Please provide a simple list of member countries. The article is currently deficient in that it does not tell the casual reader this information. The Euler diagram, nice as it is, does not satisfy the reader's needs. -
84user (
talk) 19:27, 31 July 2011 (UTC)reply
I agree with this suggestion 100%. I came here looking for a list and all I found was a tiny map and an image with flags, but no list. Waste of time. Thanks.
Dendrotech (
talk) 03:03, 6 December 2011 (UTC)reply
Direct EEA membership (without being an EU or EFTA member)?
The article contains the following statement:
"EEA membership has been discussed regarding Andorra, San Marino, Faroe Islands, Isle of Man, Morocco, Turkey, Israel"
These are countries that are neither EU or EFTA members - does this mean that a country can become a member of the EEA without being a member of the EU or EFTA? The original EEA agreement was between EU and EFTA, however I could not find a provision in it which mandates that a country must be an EU or EFTA member in order to join EEA. Is EEA membership for a third-party country (non-EU and non-EFTA member) possible? Clarification on this issue would be great. --
FreedonNadd (
talk) 23:12, 25 January 2013 (UTC)reply
That's an excellent question. Looking at the source, it often says things like "the Faeroe Islands have also carried out an assessment on membership of EFTA and the EEA" so they well could be referring to EEA membership via EFTA membership.
TDL (
talk) 23:42, 25 January 2013 (UTC)reply
However when the source talks about Morocco or Turkey, it speaks of the potential EEA membership for these countries without ever talking about EFTA (?)--
FreedonNadd (
talk) 00:08, 26 January 2013 (UTC)reply
Some more relevant quotes:
"Firstly, EEA membership entails either EFTA or EU membership"
"Whether this will include proposals for participation in the EEA through EFTA remains to be seen. The EU agrees that EFTA should determine which countries it admits as members. The EU has nonetheless shown an interest in seeing how the countries can be linked to the EEA framework, for instance by means of some form of association agreement with EFTA or the EEA."
So it seems like it's still an open question how these states would be tied to the EEA. Maybe it would be better to change the word "membership" to "association agreements" in the sentence you quoted.
TDL (
talk) 00:33, 26 January 2013 (UTC)reply
I've gone ahead and modified the wording to reflect the fact that it's not clear how these states would be associated with the EEA.
TDL (
talk) 01:22, 27 January 2013 (UTC)reply
Croatia
Did Croatia join EEA? I couldn't find a single source to confirm this information.
Merkhet (
talk) 18:03, 3 July 2013 (UTC)reply
Croatia may be unofficially applying the agreement as from 1 July but it will not become an official member until we have a decision of the EEA Council which confirms that it is admitted. The last EEA Council in May confirmed that negotiations are still ongoing (see
para. 12).
Lamberhurst (
talk) 08:41, 5 July 2013 (UTC)reply
That instruction by an Assistant Minister means Croatia is starting to apply the provisions of the treaty, which does not necessarily mean anything more than that. --
Joy [shallot] (
talk) 19:43, 7 July 2013 (UTC)reply
According to the EFTA website (
here) the agreement includes 28 member states by virtue of being an agreement between Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and the EU rather than individual member states. The website is kind enough to clarify that "The EEA Agreement also states that when a country becomes a member of the European Union, it shall also apply to become party to the EEA Agreement (Article 128), thus leading to an enlargement of the EEA."--
Tomobe03 (
talk) 20:08, 7 July 2013 (UTC)reply
Right, but did you read the footnote from that website (which I mentioned above):
"31 EEA States, once Croatia's accession to the EEA has been finalised"? Romania and Bulgaria didn't become EEA members until months after they joined the EU.
[2][3]. At the moment, Croatia has applied to become a party to the agreement,
[4] but there is no evidence that they have as of yet.
TDL (
talk) 20:20, 7 July 2013 (UTC)reply
Yes, but the European Commission decision of 1 June 2012 - COM (2012) 255 - stipulated that the EEA accession should be finalised by the time of Croatian accession to the EU (
[5], p.9). There should be some document available online clarifying if that indeed happened or if the provisional solution mandated otherwise is in place instead.--
Tomobe03 (
talk) 20:28, 7 July 2013 (UTC)reply
Sure, the Commission wanted Croatia to join the EEA at the same time as the EU. But "should" isn't "did". The point is that just because they're a EU member doesn't mean they are automatically EEA members. They need to separately negotiate an EEA Enlargement Agreement, which needs to be approved and enter into force before they become an EEA member. Until we find a source saying that they are EEA member, we shouldn't claim that they are. I'm sure the EEA Enlargement Agreement will be signed in the next few months, but we shouldn't misrepresent the situation until that actually happens.
TDL (
talk) 20:44, 7 July 2013 (UTC)reply
Here is a list of states which are party to the EEA agreement. Searching through the
agreement datebase doesn't turn up any recently signed enlargement agreement. The last time the EU enlarged on 1/2/2007, the EEA enlargement agreement was not signed until
8 months later on 25/7/2007, and it didn't enter into force for another 4+ years on 09/11/2011 while all the EEA member states ratified the agreement. (The agreement was provisionally in force from 1/8/2007.)
TDL (
talk) 22:33, 7 July 2013 (UTC)reply
According to
[6], EEA accession negotiations are expected to be completed by the fall of 2013.
TDL (
talk) 18:27, 16 July 2013 (UTC)reply
This
document from 1 July 2013 from the official EEA / EFTA website states:
"Who are the Contracting Parties to the EEA Agreement?
The 28 EU Member States, together with the three EFTA States Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway, make up the EEA Contracting Parties (the 31 EEA States)." — Preceding
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Zdk (
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contribs) 19:25, 18 July 2013 (UTC)reply
I'm sorry but the author of that article doesn't know what he's talking about and this is coming from a real lawyer. The fact that a Member State accedes to the European Union does not automatically mean that its citizens become EEA nationals. As per
Article 128 of the EEA Agreement:
(1) Any European State becoming a member of the Community shall, and the Swiss Confederation or any European State becoming a member of EFTA may, apply to become a party to this Agreement. It shall address its application to the EEA Council.
(2) The terms and conditions for such participation shall be the subject of an agreement between the Contracting Parties and the applicant State. That agreement shall be submitted for ratification or approval by all Contracting Parties in accordance with their own procedures.
Lamberhurst (
talk) 16:48, 19 July 2013 (UTC)reply
According to the
Council of the European Union (obviously not dubious press info) Croatia has not yet ratified the EEA Agreement:
[7]. The EFTA
[8], the Norwegian Embassy to Croatia
[9] and the Croatian Bureau of Statistics
[10] (also not dubious press info) also dispute the claim that they are members. If they really are members, there would have to have been an EEA Enlargement Agreement signed by all the EEA parties. To date, there has been no evidence presented that such an agreement has been signed, and sources saying that negotiations are still ongoing.
TDL (
talk) 19:48, 14 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Croatia is now a member of the EU and this article needs to be updated accordingly.
80.254.148.187 (
talk) 16:51, 12 March 2014 (UTC)reply
This article is about the EEA, not the EU. Croatia needs to separately negotiate and accede to the EEA after joining the EU. As described in this article, that process is currently underway.
TDL (
talk) 18:21, 12 March 2014 (UTC)reply
"Practically, Northern Cyprus is also regarded as part of EEA by some countries" - No, you have not demonstrated that at all. All you have shown is that a few universities have decided to asses the residency status of students from NC the same way as other EEA students. The same often applies to Switzerland (ie
[11][12]). That of course doesn't mean that the UK government considers Switzerland to be part of the EEA. UKCISA does not represents the government nor does it set policy, so even if it did say "NC is part of the EEA" (which it did not) using this to state that
"Northern Cyprus is part of the EEA" is a misrepresentation of the facts. Listing the tuition practises of UKCISA on this page is very
WP:UNDUE.
TDL (
talk) 18:18, 31 May 2015 (UTC)reply
You are right. Thank you for clarifying this to me. A better phrasing might be: "Northern Cyprus is sometimes handled by some institutions of EEA countries as if it is a part of EEA" or "Northern Cyprus is sometimes given the same rights of the member countries of EEA by some institutions of EEA". Or, your suggestion?
Ayka3b (
talk) 19:20, 31 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Northern Cyprus is not a country or entity recognised by any EEA state. If and when Cyprus is reunited the northern part of the island would be an EU member state. Until then, as Protocol 10 clearly indicates, it remains an area over which the application of the EU Treaties is suspended. Residents of this part of Cyprus have no legal basis on which to claim EU or EEA rights. The fact that some educational institutions may nevertheless recognise them as EEA/EU nationals does not change this.
Lamberhurst (
talk) 19:40, 31 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Agreed with Lamberhurst. I don't see why a policy with regards to a very specific issues at a few institutions in a single EEA member state is notable enough to mention here as it doesn't have any effect on the legal situation. If IKEA decided to treat Ukraine as an EEA state for shipping purposes we wouldn't mention that here because it simply isn't notable.
TDL (
talk) 22:31, 31 May 2015 (UTC)reply
You are right to some extent. On the other hand, the situation is much bigger than u depict: Almost all UK universities take the same stance on this. I do not know what the situation is in terms of the other EEA countries. If the same applies for them as well, then one cannot minimize the situation with IKEA example, I think.
Ayka3b (
talk) 20:37, 3 June 2015 (UTC)reply
While that is very nice of them, it doesn't change its legal status.
Merkhet (
talk) 10:07, 4 June 2015 (UTC)reply
First sentence
The first sentence in the article does not state what European Economic Area is. Instead it talks about what it provides. Later in the first paragraph something referred to as 'The Agreement' is mentioned, without explaining what The Agreement is. The article introduction should be made clearer. --
62.16.186.44 (
talk) 22:14, 27 April 2016 (UTC)reply
The problem is that we are referring to the "European Economic Area" rather than the "European Economic Area Agreement". The agreement "provides for the free movement of persons, goods, services and capital within the internal market of the European Union". "internal market" is a broader term than "EEA", referring to all EU policies that facility the concept of a single harmonised EU market. However the EEA agreement is by far the primary component, providing provisions for a
single market, and superseded prior agreements on the common market when it was enacted in 1994. So "EEA" is more of a technical term when referring to customs or border controls. The first sentence could do with some clarification, but it still can only refer to what the agreement provides (provisions for a single market within the EU's internal market). Otherwise it gets confusing when compared with
Internal market of the EU. Possibly that article could do with some clarification also.
Rob984 (
talk) 05:59, 28 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Dr. Benchimol's comment on this article
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This article is very good, complete and informative. Some little remarks should be addressed.
1. At the beginning of the article, differentiating between Eurozone and the European Economic Area should be detailed.
2. The section “EEA and Norway Grants” is, in my opinion, a bit too specific compared to the global purpose of the article. Moreover, another article already exist about this specific subject, so there no need to keep this section.
3. Some important academic references that should be discussed in the article:
a. Caselli, F. et al. (1996): Reopening the Convergence Debate: A New Look at Cross-country Growth Empirics. Journal of Economic Growth 363-389.
b. András Blahó, 2005. Some Aspects of European Economic Area and Competitiveness, Society and Economy, Akadémiai Kiadó, Hungary, vol. 27(1), pages 63-90, June.
c. Henderson, J. V. - Shalizi, Z. - Venables, A. J. (2001): Geography and Development. Journal of Economic Geography 2001/1: 81-105.
d. Barro, R. J. - Sala-i Martin, X. (1991): Convergence Across States and Regions. Brookings Papers on Economic Activity 1991/1: 107-182.
4. Somme other academic references that should be cited in the article:
a. Neven, D. J. - Gouyette, C. (1994): Regional Convergence in the European Community. CEPR Discussion Paper, No. 914. London.
b. Hallet, M. (2000): Regional Specialisation and Concentration in the EU. Economic Papers, No. 141. Brussels.
c. Fujita, M. et al. (1999): The Spatial Economy - Cities, Regions and International Trade. Cambridge, MA: The MIT Press.
d. Williamson, J. G. (1965): Regional Inequality and the Technological Change. Cambridge, MA: Cambridge University Press.
We hope Wikipedians on this talk page can take advantage of these comments and improve the quality of the article accordingly.
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UK needs to be added back in as an EFTA member until 31 December 2020.
Aeonx (
talk) 11:31, 1 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Continued UK participation throughout 2020
As the EEA Agreement is still fully operational concerning the UK, along with all the other similar EU external treaties, it would seem the UK is still in the EEA throughout the transitional period up till 31st December 2020.
Unless someone can prove otherwise, I agree, the UK is still an EEA member, at least in effect. --
1990'sguy (
talk) 15:12, 1 February 2020 (UTC)reply
I would state that for the purposes of the EEA, the territory of the UK is still part of the EU. A new colour for the uk in the image would be needed, but grey doesn't cover it...
L.tak (
talk) 16:54, 1 February 2020 (UTC)reply
[13]: "The United Kingdom (UK) ceased to be a Contracting Party to the EEA Agreement after its withdrawal from the EU on 31 January 2020." The UK is no longer in the EEA, but it continues to apply EEA regulations.
Frenzie23 (
talk) 17:35, 1 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Exactly, and to quote form the same source "Nevertheless, during the transition period the UK will continue to be treated as an EEA State". In other words: no not a member, but during the transition phase that will have no effect on applications of EEA provisions.
L.tak (
talk) 19:36, 1 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Seeing as all parties - the UK, EU and EFTA states, agree that we are 'bound' by the obligations of the EEA, AND to be 'treated' as an EEA state, it is therefore a practically and legally operational treaty throughout this year. We are at the very least an "EEA participant" and so appearing on the map the the EEA agreement covers. — Preceding
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210.84.24.164 (
talk) 04:02, 2 February 2020 (UTC)reply
I've went ahead and boldly added a new colour to the map for the UK since it appears to be the consensus to do so here.
Rob984 (
talk) 09:57, 2 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Good idea, I support that. --
DeFacto (
talk). 10:19, 2 February 2020 (UTC)reply
how on earth can this be contested? The UK is no longer a member of the EU, and hence no longer a member of the EEA. The fact that the UK is still "part of the EU" and hence of the EEA area, because of a transition period agreed with the EU - does not mean it is still a member of either the EEA or the EU. The separation agreement with the EEA EFTA:
https://www.efta.int/sites/default/files/documents/eea/eea/legal-texts/Explainer_UK-EEA_EFTA_Separation_Agreement.pdf clearly states that: "The UK is a party to the EEA Agreement by virtue of its membership of the EU. This agreement will cease to apply when the UK leaves the EU, although the UK will remain bound by relevant EU agreements with these countries, including the EEA Agreement, for the duration of the implementation period."
Yes, the UK has left the EU, and thus no longer a member od the EEA, but it is still "party to the EEA agreement" during the transition period. --
DeFacto (
talk). 11:06, 2 February 2020 (UTC)reply
."remain bound by relevant EU agreements " is different from "PARTY to the agreement", which the UK is not, because: "This agreement will cease to apply when the UK leaves the EU".
To avoid repeating information in many part of the article. This note was introduced: "The UK as a member of the EU is considered as a member of the EEA. It is planned that as soon as the UK is no more a member of the EU, UK is no more be a member of the EEA. This exit is defined by the withdrawal agreement for the relationship between the UK and the EU and by a separation agreement for the relation between the UK and the EEA. Those agreements planned a transition period between the UK and the EU and an implementation period between the UK and the EEA." — Preceding
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88.136.155.51 (
talk) 20:04, 7 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Croatia
That Croatia would not be part of the EEA is original research and based on some misunderstanding of its accession agreement. The agreement has indeed not been fully ratified yet, however, it is since 12 April 2014 applied on a provisional basis, which means that Croatia is already an EEA member. Sources for
the provisional application you find here and for being a member of EEA, see e.g.,
this and
this. --
Glentamara (
talk) 18:19, 2 February 2020 (UTC)reply
We do not know if Croatia as been a member of the EEA without being a member of the EU. Do you have source to say Croatia was a member of the EEA before the EU? Else article is possibly wrong. — Preceding
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88.136.155.51 (
talk) 20:08, 7 June 2020 (UTC)reply
France OMRs
Are France Outermost Regions (e.g. Réunion, Martinique, etc) also part of the EEA? I'm no expert but perhaps it is worth adding such info in the table row for France.
Pinnecco (
talk) 11:45, 18 March 2020 (UTC)reply
What do you mean?
Outermost Regions have specific status in the countries they belong to. Those countries are member of the EU. Countries of the EU are member of the EEA. Rules which apply in the EEA are related with rules which apply to the EU. If there is no relevant source, might be there is nothing to add. — Preceding
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88.136.155.51 (
talk) 20:14, 7 June 2020 (UTC)reply
untidy/confusing edits - please explain what you are trying to do on Talk page
One legend on EEA is very confusing:
EU states which form part of the EEA
EFTA states which form part of the EEA
Non-EU/non-EFTA state with transitional/implementation status[2]
EU state which provisionally forms part of the EEA
EFTA state which signed the EEA agreement but did not join
Line 1 vs 4: First line says EU states are part of the EEA, while line 4 says that 1 EU state is "provisionally" part of the EEA. This is not easy to understand and is at least confusing:
If Croatia is not a full part of the EEA (because ratification was not completed), first line should clarify that only 26 out of 27 EU members states are part of the EEA
If Croatia is full part of the EEA (because Croatia is member of the EU and EU member of the EEA), line 4 should be grouped with line 1, in the most appropriate way.
Start and end date of the provisional period could be clarified too.
If it is not so clear a footnote could clarify this point or give a link to the section which clarifies this point. This note could then be called/referenced from other paragraphs when needed.
Line 2: We could clarify how many EFTA member states are member of the EEA (might be 3)
Line 3:
We could clarify this non EU, non EEA member state is the UK.
Currently, UK is not a member of the EEA as a Non-EU state but as a former EU state, with the withdrawal and separation agreements. We could add the word former EU member, and for the future wikipedia is not a crystal ball.
We could clarify the planned date ending transition period of the withdrawal agreement and implementation period of the separation agreement.
Line 5. We could clarify this is Switzerland and put it separately because this is the only one which is not i the EEA.
Last but not least, if the EU is a member of the agreement, it could be clarified too.
Then, the official number of EEA members or EEA member states could also be clarified in the legend.
The UK has been an EEA member from the start, and it now doesn't apply to it anymore. I would prefer to indicate it in our map (either using this image, or -if other languge versions of wikipedia that also use the image don't agree- a new image), with a separate colour, and consider it
wp:recentism not to note that it was a member in the map. Former members are also indicated on other maps (eg the
Kyoto protocol and
Paris Agreement). My change to the map and the legend was reverted however. Looking for ideas on what's the best way forward. — Preceding
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L.tak (
talk •
contribs) 11:56, 1 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Simpler membership map
I made a simplier membership map:
I don't think it's relevant in this map to show Switzerland, which signed but never ratified the agreement, especially considering the UK also signed the agreement and subsequently withdrew.
It's completely unnecessary to have a separate coloring for Croatia. The fact that the accession agreement is provisionally applied has no practical effects. It's just a formality, which is also the reason why many member states are really slow ratifying the agreement. --
Glentamara (
talk) 08:56, 8 January 2021 (UTC)reply
I would suggest using this simple map in the infobox at the top, and the more detailed map in the body in the membership section to illustrate the history.
TDL (
talk) 17:27, 10 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Croatia is a full member of EEA through the provisional application of its accession protocol. The finalization of the ratification process is just a formality, with no practical meaning. That's probably why many member states have not even bothered to finalize the process after almost 10 years. --
Nablicus (
talk) 20:39, 15 February 2023 (UTC)reply
By the way, I think it is reasonable to point out the provisional application of the accession agreement of Croatia somewhere in the article. However, making a big fuss out of it by marking the country differently on the maps and mentioning it in the lead etc. is to give too much attention to this purely technical aspect. --
Nablicus (
talk) 20:41, 15 February 2023 (UTC)reply
The last information from May '23. It says the Croatian EEA membership is ratified by 25 out of 30 parties! In August still the same situation?!
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