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I agree on most, but I'd argue that
Crash Detection is notable due to secondary coverage & relatively widespread criticism of its bugs.
DFlhb (
talk) 06:15, 16 November 2023 (UTC)reply
@
InfiniteNexus I also think it's worth considering merging the articles on iOS versions, and the various iPod touch models, and the iPad models, recombining the base-model iPhones with Pro models (like
iPhone 15 and
iPhone 15 Pro), and undoing the splits into Intel/Apple silicon articles (see top of this talk page).
DFlhb (
talk) 10:18, 24 November 2023 (UTC)reply
I am eager to get behind that, especially merging the base-model iPhones with the Pro models. But such merges will require formal merge requests on each article's talk pages.
InfiniteNexus (
talk) 22:50, 27 November 2023 (UTC)reply
It makes sense to keep things consistent, and I'd like as much input as possible. Might want to add the merge templates to all, but direct all discussions to a single talk page (iPhone 15 Pro, where a merge was recently informally discussed). It's unusual but I feel it might work.
DFlhb (
talk) 08:52, 28 November 2023 (UTC)reply
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Comprehenshive list of iOS libraries and frameworks?
Wikipedia could benefit from having a comprehensive list of all the Apple libraries/frameworks/whatever due to the sheer amount of them, and lots of them not being notable to have wikipedia pages such as:
PencilKit
ARKit
PDFKit
TipKit
UIKIT
RealityKit
etc.
given the many apple platforms, it would be nice to maybe have a table for compatibility. I do not have a proposal as to what the article name should be.
-1ctinus📝🗨 14:35, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Hmm, I think based on that some notability can be established as a group or for the general concept of the frameworks and I could certainly make a start with the big ones, provide some explanation and even see if I can add a table for compatibility.
That said, most of the information will be based on primary sources and I’d be more comfortable if we can get a little bit of consensus going before I commit time on something like that to lower the risk that it’ll end up being a time sink that ends up being waste of time due to deletion
ConcurrentState (
talk) 01:39, 5 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I think EU-related antitrust stuff can be placed there under the antitrust section.
Semi-related: I do think it might be useful to have an article along the lines of "Apple's response to DMA" or "Apple's implementations as a result of DMA" or something like that.
That way, we can have one article where we can document all the DMA-related changes and transclude parts as needed in stuff like
iOS,
iOS 17,
App Store (Apple), dev related articles, etc.
Didn't realize it was so messy. Could've sworn
Criticism of Apple Inc. used to be a standalone article.
Perhaps you're right in that all the separate issues could be rolled into a big criticism article.
At the same time, my DMA idea that describes the changes made, might be better suited as a section on
Digital Markets Act. That way, other companies' changes can be documented there as well, and I can transclude parts as needed into Apple-related articles where appropriate.
Otherwise there's a risk of doing a lot of double work (e.g., in iOS(17) "Apple changed this for EU users because of DMA", in App Store "Apple changed this for developers who make apps for the EU market because of DMA", etc).
ConcurrentState (
talk) 22:17, 5 March 2024 (UTC)reply
From my understanding neither the $2B Spotify fine nor anything DMA-related are litigation (it was the Commission, not a court), though I'm sure Apple will appeal and at that point it'll become litigation. And I dislike dump-all articles with a non-specific scope.
DFlhb (
talk) 08:35, 6 March 2024 (UTC)reply
The DMA is definitely not litigation, at least not until a case or measure by the EC is started.
The fine is a bit more complicated. Obviously if Apple appeals with a court then it is clearly litigation, but in civil law countries that have place administrative law in a separate branch, administrative actions by government bodies are sometimes considered litigation.
Nevertheless, a more apt name could fix that.
Personally I’m more partial to start with articles that cover a concept because it allows readers that are interested to read more on similar topics and it makes it easier for editors to see if there’s enough information that would warrant separate articles with a hat note linking to the separate article on the concept article.
ConcurrentState (
talk) 07:23, 7 March 2024 (UTC)reply