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As part of this WikiProject's goal of improving Wikipedia's coverage of triathlon articles, I am hereby opening a discussion on the arrangement of articles relating to Ironman Triathlon.
The article Ironman Triathlon brings together many valid areas of encyclopaedic content, however perhaps they should be in separate articles. I propose:
The general idea is to follow how articles of championships in other sports are arranged – e.g. FINA World Aquatics Championships and 2007 World Aquatics Championships, or Triathlon at the Summer Olympics and Triathlon at the 2008 Summer Olympics.
I've started on an initial draft of 2008 Ironman World Championship.
Yboy83 ( talk) 21:13, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
New articles:
67.52.71.200 ( talk) 06:47, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Having made quick assessments of all the Triathlon articles recently tagged with the WikiProject Triathlon banner, I propose the following list of article is proposed for deletion, either by WP:PROD or WP:AfD. Please add your comments, and additions to the list below. Feel free to start the deletion process if you agree, otherwise I will start in the next week or so. Yboy83 ( talk) 10:34, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks NSH for your input - maybe if I hadn't super-quick scan-read these articles then the list wouldn't have been so long!
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Thanks. — Headbomb { ταλκ κοντριβς – WP Physics} 09:46, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)
Firstly, I've recently come across some bios with sections listing "Sponsors" and "Partners". Examples:
In my opinion, these sections should be removed. All pro triathletes have sponsors, often the same ones, and such lists add nothing to the articles. Just WP:ADVERTISING.
Secondly, do we want the sponsor's name included in race titles? I notice some of the races listed in 2008 Ironman World Championship include the sponsor's name, others don't. I'm pretty sure we don't want it in article titles (for example, we have London Marathon, and Flora London Marathon is just a redirect).
Maybe we should develop a guideline on how to present sponsorship? To my surprise, I couldn't find one already on Wikipedia (I didn't spend too much time looking, though).
-- NSH001 ( talk) 12:23, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Following on from the above discussion about sponsors... the "results" sections of athlete biogs - is (e.g.) 17th place in an obscure/local event really notable? Should we consider limiting to top 3/5/10 positions and decide upon a list of events which are suitable for inclusion in these sections?
Also there are numerous table styles being used for such results. I'm going to start a template system to help with standardising the layout. Something like this with sample data from Chrissie's latest few results:
{{Tri-bio-results-top}} {{Tri-bio-result |date = {{Dts|2009|Apr|5|format=dmy}} |position = [[Image:Gold medal icon.svg]] |event = Ironman Australia |dist = [[Ironman Triathlon|Ironman]] |swim = 50:48 |t1 = |bike = 5:03:01 |t2 = |run = 2:59:15 |total = 8:57:10 }} {{Tri-bio-result |date = {{Dts|2008|Oct|11|format=dmy}} |position = [[Image:Gold medal icon.svg]] |event = [[2008 Ironman World Championship|Ironman World Championship, Hawaii]] |dist = [[Ironman Triathlon|Ironman]] |swim = 56:20 |t1 = |bike = 5:08:16 |t2 = |run = 2:57:44 |total = 9:06:23 }} {{Tri-bio-result |date = {{Dts|2008|Aug|31|format=dmy}} |position = [[Image:Gold medal icon.svg]] |event = [[2008 ITU Long Distance Triathlon World Championships|ITU Long Distance World Championship, Almere]] |dist = 4 km / 120 km / 30 km |swim = 1:10:05 |t1 = |bike = 3:03:19 |t2 = |run = 1:54:18 |total = 6:12:44 }} {{end}}
My initial thoughts were to allow split times like "Swim+T1" using colspans, but this would then break the sortablility. Obviously needs work before implementation. Yboy83 ( talk) 10:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
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I did produce today a list of unassessed triathlon articles. Feel free to start assess and reduce the list. -- Kslotte ( talk) 14:45, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
There are still 13 pages left on the list, one of which has already (correctly in my view) been proposed for deletion. Could other editors please take a look and consider whether they should be:
-- NSH001 ( talk) 19:03, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
The subcategory Category:Miscellaneous triathletes is intended for people who take part in triathlons, but who really have nothing to do with this project.
See, for example, Andrew Baldwin, who used to be in Category:American triathletes. In theory, in order to remove him from the scope of this project, we could just remove him from this category, but sooner or later someone would be bound to restore the category. Having him in the new subcategory should avoid this happening.
As the note on the category page states, members of the new subcategory should generally be excluded from WikiProject Triathlon maintenance reports. I've added notes to that effect on Category:Triathlon and Category:Triathletes.
-- NSH001 ( talk) 21:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
I noticed you had updated the notability requirements to NSPORT to include a podium finish in any WTC Ironman and 70.3 race, not just the championship races. I would contend that with the pace and rate new races are being added (particularly for the 70.3 distance) that some of this is watering down the meaningfulness of placing in the top three. Just this past weekend there were four 70.3 distance race under the WTC brand. Additionally, I think this places some undue weight on the WTC brand and leaves it open to include podium finishes for any of the newly emerged Rev3 brand of iron/half-iron distance race. Thoughts? Perhaps this needs to be discussed within in Triathlon Project. Barkeep Chat | $ 19:42, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
I've been contemplating changing/updating NSPORT standards for triathlon. I've proposed the changes below as shown in italics. These are based on some conversations and AfD discussions I've come across while also keeping in mind the caveat "If the article does meet the criteria set forth below, then it is likely that sufficient sources exist to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article." I'd appreciate any thoughts, opposition, or alternative proposals (if in fact changes should be made).
1.Have competed in Triathlon at the Summer Olympics or have had a podium finish at the Commonwealth Games.
2.Have had an elite division top ten finish in an International Triathlon Union sanctioned championship event or in the final ITU Triathlon World Cup standings (prior to 2009 ) or the ITU World Triathlon Series standings.
3.Have an elite level podium finish at an ITU Continental Championship.
4.Have had a professional division top ten finish at the Ironman World Championship or at the Ironman 70.3 World Championship.
5. Have had a podium finish at the XTERRA Triathlon championships.
I think if a triathlete does not meet the standards here (e.g. an unknown age grouper placing in the overall top three of an Ironman series event, or a win at a Challenge event) they should be included only if they can meet the basic WP:GNG guidelines or if they fall under other notability guideleines. Barkeep Chat/ $ 15:08, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
Just a note, for ease of reference, that these criteria can be accesssed using the following shortcut: WP:NTRIATHLON. -- NSH001 ( talk) 11:55, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
Template:Infobox triathlete has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Magioladitis ( talk) 14:41, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't these articles from 2009 be names ITU Triathlon World Championship Series. As that is what it is? Globalwheels ( talk) 22:58, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Triathlon will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in triathlons. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch ( talk) 21:13, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Well, it's a little embarassing that the Germans have beaten us to an article on an Ironman event in an English speaking country... anyway, I managed to take photos of 12 of the top 13 finishers, would be nice to give Craig Alexander (triathlete) and Cameron Brown (triathlete) amongst others, some photos. pfctdayelise ( talk) 12:13, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
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