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- I'm inclined to agree with The Rambling Man that the lead is just too short. By my count the total prose portion of this article is 968 characters, which wouldn't qualify it for
DYK, never mind FL. For comparison's sake, the featured lists
List of best-selling Latin albums in the United States and
List of best-selling albums in the United Kingdom both contain one or two paragraphs about sales certifications in their leads, which are longer than the entire lead of this article. Is there anything more that can be said about album certifications in Romania? Is it just for physical sales, or are downloads and streaming included too? Do we know which was the first album to be certified? When were the thresholds lowered? When were multi-platinum and multi-diamond awards introduced? Which artists have had more than one certified album? Who's had the most? Are there any quotes from artists about how important certification is to them?
- I believe that we generally don't have row spans for sortable lists.
- The Ref. column may look better centred.
- More comments coming later.
A Thousand Doors (
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A Thousand Doors: Thank you for finding time to review my FLC. I've done your suggestions regarding the table, and I've also expanded the lead. However, I couldn't include much of your points there—damn it again, Romanian stuff is hard to find on the internet—but I've expanded the lead in another way, coming to ~1200 characters now. (I guess you'll have to take a look over that again). Best regards,
Cartoon network freak (
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- That's obviously an improvement, but the lead still seems rather short. 1,500 characters' worth of prose is the absolute minimum that we ask an article to meet before it's promoted in even a minor position on the front page – by my count, this article still isn't quite meeting that. Do the leads of either
List of best-selling Latin albums in the United States or
List of best-selling albums in the United Kingdom provide any inspiration for how the lead of this article could be expanded?
- Sadly, the articles you've linked didn't help me much. I could however add three more sentences to the lead, so I'm right now at ~1800 characters. Is that somehow okay? I really can't do much else.
Cartoon network freak (
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- As I see it, the article's biggest problem (and this isn't necessarily a bad thing) is that no-one has ever nominated a list of this type to be featured before. Obviously, that's all the more reason to do it, since, when it is promoted, it'll set a precedent for similar lists to follow it. But I do think it means that we should make sure that we get it right.
- For example, rather than having colspans indicate certification level, perhaps an extra column could be put in instead, like so:
- The advantage of this is that you'd then be able to sort albums together by their certification level. You'd have to decide in what order the albums should appear when the page first loads (Year certified makes the most sense to me, but I recognise that that's quite a big change).
- Done It was hard work, but I've done it.
Cartoon network freak (
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- Done
Cartoon network freak (
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- Why is the image of Andreea Bălan 30px wider than all the others? It looks a little odd to me.
- Done
Cartoon network freak (
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- În culori, În lipsa mea and Șoapte are sorting incorrectly. I can talk you through how to fix this, if you want.
- Done I figured out how to fix this by my own
Cartoon network freak (
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- Anda Adam needs to sort under her surname. Ștefan Bănică Jr. needs to sort under Bănică, rather than Jr. Carmen Șerban is also sorting incorrectly.
- Done
Cartoon network freak (
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- Per
MOS:QWQ, replace "Violent", "Jamparalele" and "Taina" in citations 17, 21 and 24 with 'Violent', 'Jamparalele' and 'Taina'. There are a few other examples of this elsewhere in the references.
- Done Corrected all citations.
Cartoon network freak (
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- The titles for citations 18 and 25 don't have English translations.
- Done
Cartoon network freak (
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I realise that I've given a lot of criticism here, so, if you'd like to get your own back on me, my current open FLC is
FHM's 100 Sexiest Women (UK). If you've got the time, I welcome any comments on it. Thanks,
A Thousand Doors (
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A Thousand Doors: Hi there and thanks for responding. I think I have adressed all your comments and responded to them. I will find time to look over your nomination this week. Best regards;
Cartoon network freak (
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- So I've been through the article and made
some changes. The certification column wasn't sorting correctly, so I changed that. I also centre-aligned the years and sales columns, made the images slightly narrower, and rewrote most of the second half of the lead. None of these changes is really vital (except maybe the certifications column), so please revert any that you disagree with and correct any mistakes that I may have made.
- I corrected some things, but thank you very much for bringing in a much more encyclopedic language.
Cartoon network freak (
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- Have the UPFR's certification levels never been clearly defined, or just never publicly defined?
- Done Publicily is the right word indeed.
Cartoon network freak (
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- If the UPFR was set up in 1996, how come the first album was certified in 1991?
- Done That indeed seems strange to me as well. I removed that as it made no sense.
Cartoon network freak (
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WP:CAP states not to have captions longer than three lines, so the ones for Cleopatra Stratan, Dan Bittman and André need to be shortened.
- Done
Cartoon network freak (
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A Thousand Doors (
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A Thousand Doors: Thank you very much for your time! I did everything.
Cartoon network freak (
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- "
officially" is an
easter egg. Either that sentence needs to be rewritten (i.e. to explain what Monitorul Oficial is), or the link to Monitorul Oficial needs to be removed.
- Done Removed the link.
Cartoon network freak (
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- Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater; you can still mention
Monitorul Oficial in the lead. I've added it myself – please correct or remove if I've made any errors.
A Thousand Doors (
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- Do we know which was the first album to be certified? Presumably it was Atât de singur – was it ever certified gold, or did it go straight to platinum?
A Thousand Doors (
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A Thousand Doors: We technically don't know which album was certified first, but Atât de singur is the only one I've found to win an award in the pre-2000 era (at least for now). Also, it seems like it was certified platinum straight.
Cartoon network freak (
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A Thousand Doors: Are there any more points to be fixed?
Cartoon network freak (
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- I've made a few more changes to the article (added info about the first release to be certified to the lead; cropped the image of Dan Bittman; new category). Please review them and let me know what you think. Thanks,
A Thousand Doors (
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A Thousand Doors: Thank you very much for the copy-edit. I have corrected some mistakes or word repetitions. Best regards,
Cartoon network freak (
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A Thousand Doors: Any news?
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