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Not notable. Only a single reference, a book by this name. Science is the study of things that do no match common sense: "weirdness" is not thing in physics. We have plenty of articles on QM. —
User:Johnjbarton 17:52, 16 March 2024
Then it was deprodded by a user who added a large volume of references that are about
quantum mechanics and also have this
cliché in the title:
deprod; notability of a topic is not defined by the number of references in the article but by the coverage in multiple independent reliable sources —
User:Lambiam 12:30, 18 March 2024
The actual problem is that the article is just a
WP:DICDEF — nothing here shows that there is a distinct concept from QM itself. –
LaundryPizza03 (
dc̄) 10:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment – more than any other content policy, every time I try to drill down on what
WP:NOTADICTmeans for the encyclopedia I come up empty. Given that we live in a world of abstracted descriptors, it's very often unclear what boundary there is between term and concept. Is quantum weirdness the same thing as quantum mechanics? No—does the notion of it belong in any single article about quantum mechanics? Probably also no. Is it thereby a distinct concept within the total discourse on quantum mechanics? I do not know.
Remsense诉 11:57, 12 May 2024 (UTC)reply
A good example is the article
Bare particle, which in its current form is not much more than a definition (and unsourced at that), but this is no reason to seek its deletion. --
Lambiam 09:44, 13 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Strong delete. I will ignore the issue of whether the science in the article is meaningful, since that does not matter for my vote. This is very much a classic dictionary definition, see the specific
description. The current article is just a list without encyclopedic content. To be an article it would have to cite information from numerous secondary sources to establish that this is a real, scientific topic of note. (As you might guess, I don't consider the concept of this article notable or sound science, but we don't need that to decide on deletion.)
Ldm1954 (
talk) 12:30, 12 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep. [Disclosure: I am the original article creator.] I do not really understand the arguments for deletion. The term is widely used, also by notable eminent physicists. I created the article (as a stub) because this is a term that is also regularly found in the literature without accompanying explanation, so users might want to look it up to find out more about the concept. Since whole books have been written about this, there is definitely room for expansion, although, if not carefully done, this may lead to unnecessary overlap with existing articles. --
Lambiam 14:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep. The topic has coverage by a number of sources. The article being just a definition at this point isn't sufficient for deletion - AfD doesn't exist to establish whether an article needs cleanup or expansion.
Cortador (
talk) 17:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment. Please note that the following sentence was removed (twice) from the article:
Many
"interpretations" of quantum mechanics have been proposed as explanations of such quantum phenomena in a form that is interpretable in terms of everyday, macroscopic experience; none of these has found wide acceptance.
While perhaps not that important, since the same information can be found in the article
Interpretations of quantum mechanics listed in the See also section, it should be clear from this (now missing) sentence that this stub covers more than just a dictionary definition. --
Lambiam 20:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep There are plenty of reliable sources and qualifies for
WP:GNG. It have both
WP: PRIMARY and
WP: SECONDARY sources mentioned as references. It also has historical importance as it is first and only Ayurvedic College in North East India region. -
AjayDas (
talk) 08:30, 12 May 2024 (UTC)reply
I was also not in favor to delete it. But I couldn't find sufficient references to establish the
WP:GNG. If you can demonstrate the notability with sourcing, please do it. Otherwise, just a! vote and " it is first and only Ayurvedic College in North East India region." is not helping it anyhow.
Appears to be a
WP:INDISCRIMINATE list without clear inclusion criteria. It states that it has the most "important" explorations without referencing who calls them important besides the article creator. Even if notable, it would fall under
WP:TNT and is invalid as a navigational list as it does not link to articles specifically about those explorations.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 21:48, 10 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete, at least in its current form. I have no idea what the ambit is supposed to be - what are "state societies"? Does the author have any idea what they are intending, as that term is linked to the utterly uninformative
Complex society? If what is meant is "state-sponsored exploration", then why does it include entires like the hypothetical discovery of Hawaii in late antiquity, or Livingstone's privately funded explorations? No rhyme or reason here. --Elmidae (
talk ·
contribs) 05:41, 11 May 2024 (UTC)reply
A society with a
state; the opposite of a
stateless society. It's a well-defined and widely used term in the social sciences. –
Joe (
talk) 09:26, 13 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep, edit, and update. A 2001 long-term article, the page lists the first sponsored human expeditions of various locals. The topic is notable, links to various expeditionary pages, and groups these expeditions on one page. The criteria needs to be worded differently, but that's a minor point in the overall scope of the page.
Randy Kryn (
talk) 09:35, 11 May 2024 (UTC)reply
See
WP:ARTICLEAGE. When it was written is not proof it should be kept.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 18:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Essays have some who agree and others who disagree. Early Wikipedia articles which have stood the test of 23 years of time should receive more leeway and correction. This one has a very good premise which can be refined and expanded.
Randy Kryn (
talk) 22:40, 11 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Well, on the one hand, this is a very bare-bones list, and seems to have been so for quite a while. There's no real context, and it isn't exactly the best-formatted list ever. That said, I do think that the idea behind it is
notable enough. I personally think that it should be rewritten as prose and moved to
History of human exploration, but it could also be rewritten as prose and merged with
History of human migration (though they are substantially different, especially when it comes to things like oceans or planets). I don't think keeping it as a list is a good idea, even though
List of explorers is a good, closely related list, as explorations really should have some explanation and context to them, whereas explorers don't really need that.
Ships &
Space(
Edits) 00:32, 12 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment I would agree with Ships&Space. Overhauling should be done, not deletion.
Lorstaking (
talk) 09:25, 13 May 2024 (UTC)reply
I am not opposed to a rewrite as a prose article. But in the 23 years the article has been around, nothing has been done to fix the problem. I am not sure why you believe it will be fixed in another 23 years. A deletion may encourage a new article to be created that is actually notable.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 07:01, 15 May 2024 (UTC)reply
This solar power plant is so tiny that it is not notable and not worth anyone wasting time cleaning up the article
Chidgk1 (
talk) 08:06, 9 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete. It seems this plant was quite large at the time it was opened so I've looked for somewhere to merge the article to. But it seems it was never quite big enough or important enough to belong on any pages about solar globally or domestically. Looking for further sources, I found information about the consequences of the Russian occupation of Crimea on Australian-built solar parks like this. But none of the references I found named this plant and I feel forced to conclude that it is not really notable.
Mgp28 (
talk) 22:40, 14 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk! 06:36, 14 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete: No hits at all in Jstor, Gscholar, Gnews. I don't think this scientist is hitting notability criteria here, with a lack of coverage.
Oaktree b (
talk) 13:56, 14 May 2024 (UTC)reply