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Category:Feminist historians

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 23#Category:Feminist historians

Category:Trademark attorneys

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge all. (non-admin closure) Toadette ( Let's talk together!) 22:30, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Do we really need to make the distinction for what kind of intellectual property law they practice? (With the exception for patent attorneys). Mason ( talk) 20:47, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, the articles say they are specializing in intellectual property, broadly. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:06, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Canadian criminal lawyers

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 22#Category:Canadian criminal lawyers

Category:Non-binary lesbians

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 22#Category:Non-binary lesbians

Category:San Quentin State Prison inmates

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Inmates of San Quentin State Prison. (non-admin closure) Toadette ( Let's talk together!) 22:35, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is the naming convention for prison inmates. See Category:Inmates of Alcatraz Federal Penitentiary, Category:Inmates of ADX Florence, Category:Inmates of Sing Sing, Category:Inmates of the Marshalsea, Category:Inmates of Sighet prison, Category:Inmates of Pitești prison, etc. The only time the convention is "Category:X inmates" is where X is a ghetto, e.g. Category:Łódź Ghetto inmates. Dennis C. Abrams ( talk) 17:09, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support per nominator's rationale jengod ( talk) 23:29, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Fictional characters by political orientation

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 22#Category:Fictional characters by political orientation

Category:Pourashavas of Bangladesh

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 27#Category:Pourashavas of Bangladesh

Category:Students of Ziaur Rahman Azmi

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Sunni Muslim scholars of Islam. (non-admin closure) Toadette ( Let's talk together!) 22:14, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Small category, fails WP:OCASSOC -- wooden superman 13:09, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom, and "students" categories are used for people who are only notable as a student. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:35, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support per nom and marco. Mason ( talk) 03:34, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Ziaur Rahman Azmi

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The result of the discussion was: Delete Bengal editor's (duplicate) !vote has been disregarded because they are a sock. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCEPON: Individual works by a person should not be included in an eponymous category but should instead be in a sub-category such as Category:Novels by Agatha Christie. -- wooden superman 07:52, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Disagree, there can be another category naming that such as Category:Hussain Ahmad Madani and Category:Books by Hussain Ahmad Madani. Bengali editor ( talk) 09:23, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
The difference there is that Category:Hussain Ahmad Madani contains other articles which aren't books, thus warranting an WP:EPONCAT, this one doesn't. -- wooden superman 09:37, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply

References

  1. ^ https://alhidaayah.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Transcript-IDTP-5.pdf
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Category:American Jewish billionaires

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The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 00:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I haven't done much editing in categorization recently, so maybe the rules have changed, but this one sure reeks of a WP:OCEGRS problem to me. At the very least, there ought to be community consensus (rather than the actions of a single editor) that this intersection is sufficiently noteworthy and unbiased to merit inclusion; I do not believe it is, certainly not without context. Chubbles ( talk) 07:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I also just created Category: American Italian billionaires, which somehow weirdly created another Category:Italian American billionaires category. One of them can be deleted. Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم ( talk) 20:05, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:OCEGRS. Congrats to all the billionaires of any nationality or ethnicity on your money, please pay your tax bills in full. jengod ( talk) 21:53, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Neo-Latin writers

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 22#Category:Neo-Latin writers

Category:Yemeni scientists by century

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The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 00:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There is only one century in here, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 04:18, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Politicians arrested in Yemen

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Prisoners and detainees of Yemen. (non-admin closure) Toadette ( Let's talk together!) 22:22, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection of occupation and location of arrest. Mason ( talk) 04:12, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, we shouldn't have "arrested" categories anyway. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:34, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom and Marco. NLeeuw ( talk) 17:42, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Marching

Nominator's rationale: Purge or reparent. Are pride parades part of military traditions? There's already Category:Military marching and Category:Military marches. -- MikutoH talk! 02:33, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Category:Electronic rock musicians

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 22#Category:Electronic rock musicians

Category:Aphex Twin songs

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: implement NL's proposal. Namely, rename Category:Aphex Twin songs to Category:Compositions by Aphex Twin, and re-parent to Category:Compositions by composer. Then merge Category:Songs written by Aphex Twin to the newly-renamed Category:Compositions by Aphex Twin. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 04:39, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: (Or maybe "Aphex Twin compositions".) Strictly speaking, songs contain singing. Aphex Twin tracks have no singing, or no singing in the traditional sense. For example, it is not really accurate to describe Avril 14, a piano instrumental, as a "song". Popcornfud ( talk) 17:07, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Lean oppose. Don't other categories have non-singing songs in them? I don't think it's helpful for navigation to make the distinction between songs that contain vocal tracks and those that do not. Mason ( talk) 20:26, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Just for clarity, I'm not proposing we create separate tracks for vocal and instrumental Aphex Twin tracks, just keeping a single category and renaming it. (There are very few, if any, Aphex Twins that could really be called "songs" in my view, and I also suspect the habit of calling non-vocal tracks "songs" tends to be an Americanism, but that's probably by the by.) Popcornfud ( talk) 21:14, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 12:33, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply

& merge Category:Songs written by Aphex Twin to Category:Compositions by Aphex Twin per Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars. Category:Songs written by Aphex Twin was created 15 January 2016‎; Category:Aphex Twin songs was created 21 October 2007‎, is therefore older, and therefore should be the merge target. This seems to be a comprehensive solution to all issues observed above. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:35, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Comments on NL's proposal would be very much appreciated!
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:04, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Love it! Mason ( talk) 00:17, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Should I ping the other participants to ask their opinion? They might not have read this, but I don't want to unnecessarily alert people. NLeeuw ( talk) 06:39, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • This final solution is surely in line with my earlier comments. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:13, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Marcocapelle Don't you mean 'certainly'? I often see you use the word 'surely' where I expect the word 'certainly'. As far as I know, in English, 'surely' is usually used in a question sentence to someone else, asking them to confirm something you would expect / like them to believe, or to say, or to do / to have done. 'Surely you locked the door, didn't you?' It's like the English equivalent of '...toch zeker wel...?' See the usage notes at https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/surely because [surely] connotes strong affirmation, it is used when the speaker or writer expects to be agreed with. Unlike sure it may be used neutrally—the reader or hearer may or may not agree, and it is often used when the writer is trying to persuade.
    • Surely you must admit that it was a good decision.
    In this case, it's like you're asking yourself whether you agree with your own earlier comments. 'Deze oplossing is toch zeker wel in lijn met mijn eerdere opmerkingen?' There is nobody who can answer that question except for you. NLeeuw ( talk) 06:33, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    • Then my "surely" should be read as "certainly". Happy to improve my English vocabulary. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
      You're welcome! NLeeuw ( talk) 00:26, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: ....and I forgot to tag Category:Songs written by Aphex Twin last week. Oops. If there are no further comments by next week, we should be all set for implementing NL's proposal. Apologies for the delay/third relisting.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:22, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Ah no worries HouseBlaster. :) NLeeuw ( talk) 17:47, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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