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The result was keep. ✗ plicit 13:01, 2 August 2021 (UTC) reply

The National (Wales)

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A very new media outlet, with references that one would expect for a news organisation engaging in PR and other news organisations mentioning the existence of a new competitor. But these are WP:MILL, none of which show it to pass WP:NCORP Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 12:53, 26 July 2021 (UTC) reply

• I disagree. Keep. Unreal7 ( talk) 13:21, 26 July 2021 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. Spiderone ^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:39, 26 July 2021 (UTC) reply

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• Keep. Substantial coverage from reputable news outlets like the BBC. {{u| Sdkb}}  ^talk 15:01, 26 July 2021 (UTC) reply
• Keep: per Sdkb. I know we can't cite XYZ at AfD but I'm just saying about 90% of British newspaper article are like this. — Berrely •  ^Talk∕ _Contribs 15:48, 26 July 2021 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. ☢️ Radioactive 🎃 ( talk) 16:21, 26 July 2021 (UTC) reply

• Delete on the basis of being WP:TOOSOON. The BBC article is the only one truly independent and unbiased, I don't see how one article can be described as "substantial coverage". All the other sources are connected to The Nationals publisher and parent company. Hold the Front Page appears to be a resource website for journalists. Sionk ( talk) 17:54, 26 July 2021 (UTC) reply

  It's not just the BBC; Press Gazette, for instance, looks like a fine source to me. {{u| Sdkb}}  ^talk 19:52, 26 July 2021 (UTC) reply

• Keep Disagree with nominator stating that the references are what you would expect for a news organization and that that somehow discounts them. These sources are not what you would expect for such a new publication, and the fact that they do exist–and in this early stage–implies the subject is likely notable and will likely continue to become more notable. –– FORMALDUDE^{( talk)} 02:38, 27 July 2021 (UTC) reply
• Keep per above commenters. The story on BBC News is an indicator that this is notable, and likely to receive more coverage in the future. NemesisAT ( talk) 22:20, 1 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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