The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Article was
Prod deleted on December 26, 2016, only to be recreated a few days later bv
Kamehamehasongcontest. There's no sourcing provided which shows that this is anything more that a local school song contest and not Wikipedia notable per
WP:NEVENT. All of the sources are primary and most of the content being added by various IPs is unsourced BLP type of stuff. I've tried to fine better sourcing myself, but have not had much luck. I also asked about this at
WT:HAWAII#Kamehameha Schools Song Contest, but so far have not gotten a response. I asked the admin who deleted the article about it at
User talk:Explicit#Kamehameha Schools Song Contest, and was advised to bring it to AfD.
Someone did add a {{
mergeto}} template to the article in January 2016, but there does not seem to have been any discussion about it. It might be possible to redirect/merge the article into
Kamehameha Schools#Song Contest, but that section is also unsourced and some serious trimming would need to be done for that to be done right. I'm not sure how to categorize this debate so I'm going to leave it as "U" for now. --
Marchjuly (
talk) 07:51, 3 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Weak keep - I was heading down a Delete route until I looked for
secondary sources. There are a small number, so it may just creep across the
Notability threshold.
CalzGuy (
talk) 12:56, 3 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Merge into
Kamehameha Schools. It is primarily of local interest only, and any notability independent from the school itself is marginal at best. Once the minutia and trivia is trimmed from the song contest article, there isn't anything more to say than what can fit nicely at the parent article about the school.
Deli nk (
talk) 19:14, 3 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment: After looking at some of the sources found by
CalzGuy, I think they are probably OK per
WP:V to source content about the contest in
Kamehameha Schools#Song Contest, but I'm not sure if there's enought to support a stand-alone article. Most of the coverage is local, so it does not seem to be enough per
WP:GEOSCOPE. Only the Huffington Post articles seem to be anything outside of Hawaii. One of the articles
here is a blog which may be OK per
WP:NEWSBLOG for citing as a source, but not helpful for notability. The other article
here seems to be more of a trivial mention of the contest as part of an article about the a particular singer, so it also doesn't really help towards notability. Anyway,
redirects are cheap so maybe a redirect to the school article is now appropriate and the new sources can be used there. I do have a concern that the article will probably be recreated. The AfD template has already been removed by two IPs, and the article was re-created shortly after in was prod deleted. Will a consensus here to redirect/merge preclude any recreation of the article? A merge is also possible, but some major trimming is going to be needed since I don't think the school article could support the amount of (unsourced) detail added by IPs to the contest's article. Maybe a table listing the winners supported by sources could be added (a primary source is probably OK here) along with the image of the program, but not sure about anything more than that. --
Marchjuly (
talk) 07:19, 5 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J947 21:54, 10 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Kurykh (
talk) 00:21, 18 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Merge with
Kamehameha Schools. It's significant to these schools, but doesn't seem to receive attention elsewhere.
Imalawyer (
talk) 05:47, 18 March 2017 (UTC)reply
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