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The result was delete.
✗plicit 14:07, 5 April 2024 (UTC)reply
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Strong Keep. This is a featured article in Indonesian Wikipedia with plenty of sources in that language.--Esprit15d •
talk •
contribs 14:18, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment@
Esprit15d: Upon examining the nomination
discussions of this featured article on Indonesian Wikipedia, we'll find that the article on Indonesian Wikipedia is essentially a translation of the one on English Wikipedia. This conclusion is based on explicit statements made by the nominator.
Ckfasdf (
talk) 16:28, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Strong Delete The individual's purported notability primarily arises from orchestrated efforts by a sockmaster and their accomplices to boost his profile across platforms, including Wikipedia. However, his importance appears to be largely restricted to
Bengkalis Regency, with minimal recognition beyond this local area, let alone nationwide in Indonesia. While he may have some standing within the local Muslim scholar community, his broader significance is dubious. It's worth noting that the main source cited in the article,
Saputra 2020, focuses on the 21
ulamas in Bengkalis regency rather than specifically highlighting him. Similarly, the other references in the article lacks substantial individual attention directed at him. Moreover, if he truly held significant status in Bengkalis regency, his name would likely be documented in regional history books. However, upon examining historical texts issued by
ministry of education and culture, such as these in books
1 and
2, his name is notably absent.
Ckfasdf (
talk) 15:45, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
He also lacks significant coverage per
WP:SIGCOV, with the only sources about him being
this book, and a passing mention in
this website.
Ckfasdf (
talk) 15:56, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Strong Keep per Esprit15d. This subject was one of the founding father of
Riau province so there's no reason for the deletion just because his contribution focused in a regency. Apart from being the founding father of Riau, he was known for his contribution as captain in leading resistance movement with Indonesian National Army and for being a long time member of
Masyumi Party. The subject also received a national award as a Regional Hero of Riau Province, i said Regional Hero an award which is considered as a national award because it must go through a strict file selection so that it can be determined by the
House of Representatives and war veteran medal from the National Daily Council which is very sufficient to established the article notability. He also passed
WP:GNG by received a significant coverage from atleast three different sources. And as for sources notability, is there a valid data to show that the source is not notable or is it just based on an assumption?
Hi Bree! (
talk) 18:16, 29 March 2024 (UTC)Comment struck per
WP:SOCKSTRIKE. The WordsmithTalk to me 19:20, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete: per nominator, fails WP:GNG.
Dejaqo (
talk) 21:02, 30 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep There is no indication that the nominator has done
WP:BEFORE before creating a deletion page
[1]. He also lack the ability to understand about Indonesian subject and notability of sources used in the article as he did here in other nomination page that he created
[2][3].
202.43.93.9 (
talk) 03:34, 1 April 2024 (UTC) —
202.43.93.9 (
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few or no other edits outside this topic. WP:SOCKSTRIKEThe WordsmithTalk to me 20:10, 4 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep. Pass
WP:SIGCOV. Found a book titled Toko Pejuang Daerah Riau which was published by Riau Province Social Service in August 2023 that did some depth coverage on him. The book explains his career and service journey starting from 1929 in the fields of politics, social organizations, and as theologist. If only there's a way to make that book available online.
36.69.119.29 (
talk) 08:22, 4 April 2024 (UTC) —
36.69.119.29 (
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few or no other edits outside this topic. WP:SOCKSTRIKEThe WordsmithTalk to me 20:10, 4 April 2024 (UTC)reply
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